*Appendix Trivia*

[Vicky]

yes indeed.

[Valandil]

Hey-hey-HEY! We're over 1000 posts with this thread! :D

OK, which king had the longest reign in Arthedain?

[Radagast The Brown]

Amlaith?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Amlaith?

Nope - though he was the FIRST to reign in Arthedain! :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Beleg, his son, then?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Beleg, his son, then?

No - not Beleg... a few further down the line.

HINT: you might be in line for a longer reign yourself if your father and/or grandfather meets an untimely end... yet you do not. :) (and I'm not talking about Aragorn)

[Radagast The Brown]

Ok... since no one guessed the last 3 days: I say Arafor.

[Valandil]

Yes - Araphor is correct! His grandfather had been killed in 1356 (7 years after coming to the throne) and his father was killed in the big assault from Angmar in 1409. He reigned from then until 1589... 180 years!

Your turn.

[Radagast The Brown]

Huh! :p

When did the Stoors fled to the south and west of Eriador (,some returned to Wilderland, dwelt aside the Gladden)?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Huh! :p

When did the Stoors fled to the south and west of Eriador (,some returned to Wilderland, dwelt aside the Gladden)?

Hmmm... I'm thinking it was in the 1300's of the Third Age. Is there a specific date or event associated with it? Or am I off a few centuries? :p

[Radagast The Brown]

There is a specific event. :) And the year is mentioned too - 1300 is wrong.

[Valandil]

Then was it 1409? I know that was a big year... :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Yup., :)

[Valandil]

On the Shire calendar, what was the first day of the year called? And what day of the week was it?

[Valandil]

Oooo.. 4 1/2 days and still no takers. You guys not know your Hobbit calendar? Or did you forget all about this thread?

Anyone want to take a shot at it? Or shall I ask a different question?

[Radagast The Brown]

Ask a different question. :p

[Rosie Gamgee]

Yule was what they called it, and it was a Saturday.

[Valandil]

Oooo... and I was just about to ask another question!

You got it Rosie! The actual name was "Yule 2" - and yes, it was a Saturday!

(Funny about those Hobbits... they call the FIRST day of the year "Yule 2" and the LAST day of the year "Yule 1"... kinda cute really, the two Yule Days sort of 'connect' the two years)

Anyhow - your turn! :)

[Rosie Gamgee]

Oh, cool.
Um, well, if you already had a question prepared, you can post. I don't get on this board very often and have a habit of forgetting that I posted questions. So you can post another one.

[Valandil]

Who was Leod?

And - for 'extra credit' - who killed him? :)

[Beruthiel's cat]

He was the father of Eorl the Young. He was killed by Felarof, first of the Mearas.

[Valandil]

Correct BC... your turn! Say, is this your first time in this thread? :) If so, welcome!

[Beruthiel's cat]

Yep, it's my first time here, Val. I just happened to have my reference material close at hand though...I don't usually.

I suppose you want me to ask the next question now...

Well, as I said, since I happen to have my reference material right here ---

What is the significance of Galbasi?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Beruthiel's cat
Yep, it's my first time here, Val. I just happened to have my reference material close at hand though...I don't usually.

I suppose you want me to ask the next question now...

Well, as I said, since I happen to have my reference material right here ---

What is the significance of Galbasi?

Ah... you had to look it up! ;) That's OK... we pretty much all started doing that for THIS thread. What's amazing is how after playing this game for awhile, you DON'T NEED TO look things up anymore.

Uh... having said all that, I must now admit I don't know what 'Galbasi' is. :o Nor do I have MY reference materials handy. :p

[Beruthiel's cat]

Originally posted by Valandil

Uh... having said all that, I must now admit I don't know what 'Galbasi' is. :o Nor do I have MY reference materials handy. :p

A hint would be: it's more a "who" than a "what"... but not exactly...

:p

[Nimbrennil]

Suilad,

Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 'Galbasi' referring to the 'Hobbit' last name 'Gamgee', as in 'Samwise Gamgee', 'Banazîr Galbasi'. Well, okay. Gotta go, bye!

[Beruthiel's cat]

That's right!!!

Good going!!!

[Valandil]

Hmmm... Nimbrennil is relatively new here - and must not realize how much I pester those who stall this thread. :evil: :p

*sigh*

Well - let's just keep it moving:

Question:

Who dwelt for a time in Lindon south of the River Lhun?

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Gil-Galad

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Last Child of Ungoliant
Gil-Galad

Not Gil-galad... but good try! :)

[Elanor the Fair]

Celeborn dwelt in Lindon, south of the Lune - I'm not sure if Galadriel was with him but I think she was.

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Elanor the Fair
Celeborn dwelt in Lindon, south of the Lune - I'm not sure if Galadriel was with him but I think she was.

Correct! Your turn, Elanor! :)

[Elanor the Fair]

Yay!!!! I get to ask a question!! :)

Ok, it's my first time at asking any questions so I hope choose an interesting one.... :D

How many of Sam and Rosie's children had golden hair?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Elanor the Fair
How many of Sam and Rosie's children had golden hair?

Toughie! We've done total # of kids, but blondies... 8?? :confused:

[Radagast The Brown]

Is it mentioned? :confused: I don't remember reading of it.

[Elanor the Fair]

Yes - it is mentioned in the appendices.

I am one of the golden-haired children!! (Elanor the Fair!!) but there were others. You don't need the names - just how many children were born with golden hair. :)

[Elanor the Fair]

Originally posted by Valandil
Toughie! We've done total # of kids, but blondies... 8?? :confused:

Hee, hee, hee:D Was it a tricky question?? Well done, me!! No, 8 is not the correct answer. Sorry, try again. :) You could always start at one and keep going from there!! :D

[Radagast The Brown]

I'd guess... 4? Blonde hair is rare to hobbits.

[Elanor the Fair]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
I'd guess... 4? Blonde hair is rare to hobbits.

Blonde hair is rare in hobbits, Radagast. Unfortunately, though, 4 is not the correct answer!! Please try again!! :)

[Valandil]

five?

[Elanor the Fair]

Originally posted by Valandil
five?

This is like one of those game shows where the contestants try to out-bid each other!!! :D

Sorry, Valandil, five is not the correct answer!! :D

[Radagast The Brown]

3?

[Count Comfect]

How about 2?

[Elanor the Fair]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
3?

From the appendices...

She (Elanor) became known as "The Fair" because of her beauty; many said that she looked more like an elf-maid than a hobbit. She had golden hair, which had been very rare in the Shire; but two others of Samwise's daughters were also golden-haired, and so were many of the children born at this time.

Three is the correct answer, Radagast!! Well done! :)

[Valandil]

OK Raddy... get your question up! :p

[Radagast The Brown]

Elanor, It is said that two of the daughters had blonde hair, and in your question you said 'Children' which can refer also to sons of Sam.

To which Dwarven King was given the first Ring of the dwarves?

[Elanor the Fair]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Elanor, It is said that two of the daughters had blonde hair, and in your question you said 'Children' which can refer also to sons of Sam.

To which Dwarven King was given the first Ring of the dwarves?

Radagast, There is no mention in the appendices regarding any sons having golden hair,so we can assume that there were none.
:) Elanor the Fair (with golden hair!!) That rhymes!! :D

You, however, came up with the correct answer and learned something new about Sam's children/daughters in the process - well done!! :)

[Elanor the Fair]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown


To which Dwarven King was given the first Ring of the dwarves?


It's me again, Radagast!! :p

Was it Durin III?

[Radagast The Brown]

Yup.

[Elanor the Fair]

Towards the end of the third age, Mirkwood was renamed. What was its new name?

[Valandil]

The Forest of Green Leaves :)

[Elanor the Fair]

Originally posted by Valandil
The Forest of Green Leaves :)

Wow!! That was quick, Valandil!! :p

'Tis your turn!! :)

[Valandil]

Who was 'handsome and valiant'? :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Boromir son of Denethor the first. He conquered Osgiliath from the orcs. And I think it was written that he was handsome.

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Boromir son of Denethor the first. He conquered Osgiliath from the orcs. And I think it was written that he was handsome.

I had to check that one. It says 'he was noble and fair of face' of that Boromir. I had someone else and those words I used were the exact ones in the text - so let's see if anyone can come up with my first one. :)

VERY good though! :)

[Valandil]

In case it's too hard, the full sentence may provide more help... IIRC:

"He was handsome and valiant, and showed no signs of aging faster than his father."

helpful? :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Earnur?

[Valandil]

No - not Earnur :)

[Count Comfect]

Well, I can't remember his name, but isn't that the King of Gondor with the Rhovannion blood in him, so everyone assumed that he would age faster since he wasn't a "pureblood" Numenorian?

[Valandil]

You'er right about that CC... and since this has sort of stalled out, I'll let you take it from here. His name was Eldacar.

Your turn :)

[Radagast The Brown]

So... Are you going to as ka question, CC? :confused:

[Count Comfect]

Sorry, been away from computer/Entmoot for a few days. Let's see...

Who was mayor after Frodo?

[Elanor the Fair]

Sorry, been away from computer/Entmoot for a few days. Let's see...

Who was mayor after Frodo?

Will Whitfoot

[Count Comfect]

Yes. Your go.

[Elanor the Fair]

Thanks, CC! :)

What is the age difference between Sam and Frodo?

[Radagast The Brown]

15 years?

[Elanor the Fair]

That's correct, Radagast. Your turn. :)

[Radagast The Brown]

How old was Aragorn when he died?

[Valandil]

210

Ugh... under character min... must... add... LETTERS!!! :eek:

[Radagast The Brown]

Correct. :) :p

[Valandil]

Who married Elanor the Fair, eldest daughter of Samwise and Rose Gamgee?

[Radagast The Brown]

Fastard?

[Valandil]

Fastard?

Beg pardon?

I was looking for 'Fastred of Greenholm' - but we'd best move on, so I'll take it. Your turn, Rad! :)

[Elanor the Fair]

Who married Elanor the Fair, eldest daughter of Samwise and Rose Gamgee?

Hey!! I knew that!! :D

[Radagast The Brown]

I don't havethe books with me.. so someone else would have to volunteer..?

[Valandil]

Didn't see that at first Rad... I'll get us moving:

In whose days did the first ships of the Numenoreans come back to Middle-earth?

[Radagast The Brown]

Tar-Elendil?

[Valandil]

Tar-Elendil is correct!

[Radagast The Brown]

Who was Tar-Elendil's eldest child? (given to me by Valandil, and I suppose he's not going to answer..)

[Valandil]

Who was Tar-Elendil's eldest child? (given to me by Valandil, and I suppose he's not going to answer..)

No... I'll leave it to someone else. Rad has apparently lost his appendix! :eek: ;) :p

[Radagast The Brown]

No... I'll leave it to someone else. Rad has apparently lost his appendix! :eek: ;) :pHow dare you.:p I just didn't take them with me. I took FotR, Sil and another bok of Pratchett... 'Equal Rites'.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Silmariën was the daughter and eldest child of Tar-Elendil! It was her that started the line of the Lords of Andúnië! This was the line from which the Kings of Gondor and Arnor were descended. Which of course include Elendil the Tall and Isildur who cut the ring from Saurons hand. And finally to Aragorn Elessar of the company of the ring.

[Valandil]

I see Radagast hasn't gotten back to this... you ARE correct Halbarad! :)

Your turn to post the next one.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Next question is,

What is Thorin Okensheilds relation to Gimli Elf Friend!?

[Radagast The Brown]

Doesn't Gloin and Thorin have the same grand-grand-grandfather? and Gloin is Gimli's father.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Yet what is the Relation of Gimli and Thorin, not Gimli and Gloin. Or Gloin and Thorin. Im sure you got it but still havent named the answer.

[Valandil]

Well... if Rad's on the right track, is Gimli the third cousin of Thorin, once removed?

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Well... if Rad's on the right track, is Gimli the third cousin of Thorin, once removed?


That is correct Alandil, your go!

[Valandil]

Oops! Sorry - didn't see that it was my turn... :o (and yes - Raddy got me for it... 'turnabout is fair play' I suppose! :p :D )

OK... Who were King Ondoher's two sons?

[Twista]

Artamir and Faramir

[Valandil]

Artamir and Faramir

Correct! Your turn Twista... and nice to see you around again! :)

[Valandil]

Twista... is this another of your "hit & run" solves??? :mad: :evil:

;) :p

[Twista]

HAHA Val, but no lol, i am here again... so you dont need to send that Pm i can sence coming :p lol

Question:On what date, do the Rohirrim (led by the wild men) reach the Grey Wood?

[Valandil]

OK - I'll give it a whirl... only a very few possibilities:

March 14, 3019?

[Valandil]

...March 14, 3019?

I just looked this up since I got no answer yet :mad: ... it is correct.

Next Question: How many years difference is there between the year in the standard Third Age calendar and the year in Shire Reckoning?

(And - if you want to show us just how smart you are - tell us why :p )

I'll be on vacation for a week - so if someone thinks they got it, please ask somebody to verify it for you, then move on. :)

[Radagast The Brown]

1400?

[Valandil]

1400?

Sorry - not 1400 years difference. :(

[Radagast The Brown]

1600 years then? Wasn't sure which of both is correct.

[Valandil]

1600 years is correct - your turn! :)

[Radagast The Brown]

When did Thrain went to live in the Ered Luin?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

2799 TA

[Radagast The Brown]

Right.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

In what year were both Fili and Kili born?

[Radagast The Brown]

2853?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Nope

[Radagast The Brown]

2863?

(these are random guesses, I'd like you to tell me if I'm some how close :p)

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Just checked and where I thought it said their birth date it said their death date so I bettter change the question.

In what year did Fili and Kili die?

[Radagast The Brown]

Hey! :eek: You could check their birth date then. :confused:

Anyway, that's easier, and should be 2941, the same year of the journeyu of Bilbo.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Yeah it is and I checked for their birth dates and couldn't find it.

[Radagast The Brown]

When was Thror murdered?

[Valandil]

When was Thror murdered?

Oh goodness... 27-something! Was it 2770? (please give some warmer-colder / higher-lower hints or something! :D )

BTW - birth years for Fili and Kili ARE given in the appendices... only it's not the same year. They were simply brothers, not twins.

[Radagast The Brown]

Thought so. :)

And it's wrong - you need a later year. :)

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

2790?

[Radagast The Brown]

Yes.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

In what year did Eorl fall in battle?

[Valandil]

Whew... I'll guess 2510? If I'm off, can you give warmer-colder / higher-lower hints? :)

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Higher

[Valandil]

2539?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Still higher

[Valandil]

2578?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Lower

[Valandil]

2557?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Lower. You'll get there soon! :D

[Valandil]

2548?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Lower

[Valandil]

2542?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Higher :D

[Valandil]

2545?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

You got it.

[Valandil]

Who was it now, that granted lands across the Baranduin to the Periannath who migrated from Bree?

[Radagast The Brown]

Argeleb the second?

[Valandil]

Correct - your turn Rad! :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Why did Brego son of Eorl die?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

2552?

[Valandil]

2581?

[Radagast The Brown]

Ehm, I think I asked 'why'... not 'when'. :D :p :)

[Valandil]

Hah! Silly us! Wasn't it of heartbreak... a year after his son Baldor wandered off into the Paths of the Dead and was never heard from again (to keep a rash promise he made while celebrating the completion of Meduseld!)

[Radagast The Brown]

Correct, Val. :)

[Valandil]

Who desired to possess Amon Sul?

[Radagast The Brown]

You mean a king that desired it? Or a whole nation (like Cardolen)

[Valandil]

You mean a king that desired it? Or a whole nation (like Cardolen)

What do YOU think? ;) (and there may be more than one)

[Radagast The Brown]

Rodaur and Angmar?

[Valandil]

No - but Rhudaur was one... and there was one other. :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Cardolan?

[Valandil]

Yes - your turn! :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Where did Merry and Pippin buried?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

In Gondor next to King Elessar.

[Radagast The Brown]

I want... some more. The street's name, in toher words.

[Earniel]

I want... some more. The street's name, in toher words.
That would be Rath DÃ*nen, the Silent Street.

[Radagast The Brown]

Correct. :)

[Earniel]

Give another name for Éomer.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Another name!? Or just a title, like Third Marshal of Riddermark? Or his second name Éadig!?

[Earniel]

Eadig was what I was looking for, your turn.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Sorry for my lateness, if it is still my turn then here we go:

Who is the first Ruling Steward of Gondor to have a similar name(named after in a sense) to an elf in history!? As well as wich steward he was i.e. 10th, 12th, etc.?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Ecthelion. 10th?

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Incorrect, Sorry Telcontar, Ecthelion was the 17th Ruling Steward of Gondor and was not the first to have an "elf name".

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

I meant Ecthelion the first but never mind.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Ecthelion the first was 17th, Ecthelion I (2698)[17] son of Orodreth (2685)[16].

[Radagast The Brown]

Dior?

[Valandil]

Rad - I had to look this one up, but yes, it looks to me like Dior was the first (even though he was just half! :p )... he was the 9th Steward.

Go ahead and ask the next question if you like.

[Radagast The Brown]

k, thanks. It was a rather random guess, by the way. :p

Ehm, What's the difference in the ages between Boromir and Faramir?

[ethuiliel]

I'm just guessing here, but 8 years?

[Radagast The Brown]

No. .

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

7 years?

[Radagast The Brown]

No. (now don't start guessing numbers, until you cover all numbers between 1 to 20 :p)

[ethuiliel]

can you give us a hint? Hot or cold? high or low?

[Radagast The Brown]

lower than 7.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

It was five years. Boromir was born in 2978 of the third age, Faramir was born on 2983 of the third age.

[78(1) 79(2) 80(3) 81(4) 82(5) 83]

[ethuiliel]

just curious, did you actually know that? or did you look it up? because that'd be very impressive if you didn't!

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Both, kinda. I knew it was 5 years, and I obviosuly knew third age, all i didn't know was the exact date, I knew it had to be within the 29XX of the third age though, I looked it up just to put the exact numbers in the XX's.

[Radagast The Brown]

It is 5 years indeed.

You really shouldn't look it up, because everyone can do that...

[Valandil]

Game stalled - will jump-start:

What does 'Falastur' mean?

[Radagast The Brown]

Lord of the shores?

[Valandil]

Good enough translation! :) My version says 'Lord of the coasts' - essentially the same thing.

You go! :)

[Radagast The Brown]

thanks. :)

Who was the first ruling queen and who was her father?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Ruling Queen of what?

[Radagast The Brown]

Right, of Numenore. :o

[Valandil]

Ancalime... daughter of Aldarion (and Erendis! :) )

[Radagast The Brown]

Correct. :) (Erendis isn't mentioned in the appendix, btw.) (so I couldn't ask abut her)

[Valandil]

In whose day did Gondor reach the summit of its power?

[Radagast The Brown]

Romandecil? (sp.)

[Valandil]

Romandecil? (sp.)

No - not him... :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Hiarmendacil (sp.) maybe?

[Valandil]

Hiarmendacil (sp.) maybe?

That's the one! (Hyarmendacil, IIRC) Your turn...

(hope this doesn't just keep bouncing between you and me) :)

[Radagast The Brown]

(I'll ask a hard question then. :evil: )

Who (steward) added one day in the Steward's Reckoning at 2360?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Turgon?

[Radagast The Brown]

No. .

[Count Comfect]

Hmmm... Boromir I?

[Radagast The Brown]

Not him.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Denethor the first?

[Radagast The Brown]

No. :p A hint?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Yes please!

[Radagast The Brown]

His name was the same as a rather famous man from the first age.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Turin?

[Radagast The Brown]

No. .

[Valandil]

Hurin?

[Radagast The Brown]

no... want another hint?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Yes please :p

[Valandil]

Beren?

[Radagast The Brown]

It's not Beren either. :p

Hmmm... he's the Seventh ruling Steward, if it helps.

[Count Comfect]

Elros? Can't even remember if that's the name of a ruling Steward, but I'll try it anyway.

[Valandil]

Was there a 'Huor'?

[Radagast The Brown]

Elros was the first king of Numenore, IIRC, CC. :)

No, not Huor. But it does begin with an 'h'.:) *waiting hopefully for the right answer*

[Valandil]

Haldir?

[Radagast The Brown]

No... (*sigh* :D I told you I'll make a very hard one, didn't I? :evil: )

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Hador!

[Radagast The Brown]

At last!!! Very well, Halbarad, Hador it is. :) Congradulations! Erhm, your turn.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Okay, okay I will post my question by the end ofthis night, i swear...[no book w/me at the moment]

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Okay here is my Question;
Which King of Gondor wished to move the King's Seat from Minas Anor to Pelargir? As well as which number King was he?(i.e. 7th King of Gondor)

[Radagast The Brown]

Earnil the first? (if there were two?)

[Valandil]

Okay here is my Question;
Which King of Gondor wished to move the King's Seat from Minas Anor to Pelargir? As well as which number King was he?(i.e. 7th King of Gondor)

Halbarad, please re-check your question. IIRC, it was (EDIT: Castamir) who wanted to move the King's Seat to Pelargir - but at the time it was still in Osgiliath, not Minas Anor.

Just please confirm that your question is valid as written, or correct it.

Thank you. :)

[Valandil]

No sign of Halbarad, so I looked it up - it was indeed Castamir (and it WAS from Osgiliath that he wanted to remove the King's seat to Pelargir). Saying 'what number' King he was is problematic, since JRRT didn't really assign numbers... so do we count from Elendil, from Anarion or from Meneldil? And do we count both Anarion AND Isildur?

So... let's limit the information requested to what is spelled out.

Next Question: Whom did Castamir have put to death?

[Radagast The Brown]

His opponent's son (can't remember his name), Amendil.

[Valandil]

His opponent's son (can't remember his name), Amendil.
Let's try to get a little closer... ;)

Since RtB obviously didn't look it up, can anyone get this without doing so? :)

[Radagast The Brown]

I don't think anyone can. :p

[Valandil]

*sigh* I guess that was too obscure! Ornendil was his name.

Somebody else want to ask one? Or should I try again? Just would like to see this thread move forward again... :)

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

I think RtB should go as he was the only one that had a go!

[Radagast The Brown]

What was the most favoured alphabet in Moria?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Daeron's Rune's.

[Radagast The Brown]

Yeah, correct.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

I'll post a question later as I haven't got the books with me at the moment.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

According to Gandalf, what might there not have been had he not met Thorin Oakenshield?

[Rosie Gamgee]

Um... Lothlorien, maybe? (Because if the Dwarves hadn't retaken the Lonely Mountain there would have been nothing between Mordor and the Misty Mountains but Mirkwood... I think)

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Nope.

[Rosie Gamgee]

*snaps fingers* darn. Okay, Clarify something for me. What is it that might not have been- an event; or a thing, a place?

[Radagast The Brown]

Eriador was ruined, basically?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

*snaps fingers* darn. Okay, Clarify something for me. What is it that might not have been- an event; or a thing, a place?
None, although it is more thing than an of the others.

Eriador was ruined, basically?
That may have happened but it is not what Gandalf said.

[Rosie Gamgee]

Aha!!! No Queen, it was, precious, yess, no Queen of Gondor. Gandalf said, he did, he said there would have been no Queen of Gondor, precious- he said it, he did.

Are we right, my precious, my love?

[Pytt]

if gandalf and thorin hadn't met, there wouldnt have been any defence in the north against mordors forces?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Rosie is correct.

[Radagast The Brown]

I disagree - "We might now hope to return from the victory here onlny to ruin and ash." - that's what Gandalf says, in Appendix A.

[Rosie Gamgee]

Ooo, two possible answers... But he chose ME!!! *puts TD on her buddy list* :rolleyes:

Okay, uh.... What did Azog call Nar?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Appendix A
There might have been no Queen of Gondor. We might now hope to return from the victory here only to ruin and ash.

[Valandil]

.... What did Azog call Nar?

Not sure, but... 'bearded beggar'??

[Pytt]

you've get punished for reading the books not in the original language. :rolleyes:
i know what he called him in norwegian, put i can't translate it to english. :confused:

[Rosie Gamgee]

Close, Valandil.

Val, kind sir, you need to check your pm box. But I'm off for now. I'll not be back until next week- so if someone gets the correct answer for sure *off they go to the book*, they can have it. Otherwise honorary turnship goes to Val.

[Radagast The Brown]

Appendix AI know. But I think Teh fact that Eriador would be destroyed is jsut a bit more important than the Queen of Gondor...

[Valandil]

Oh - maybe 'bearded thief'?

I could let pytt go if that's right...

I saw your PM, will try to give quickie answer now. :)

[Valandil]

I know. But I think Teh fact that Eriador would be destroyed is jsut a bit more important than the Queen of Gondor...

I see what TD is saying though Rad... he asked what would NOT have been. :)

[Radagast The Brown]

I see what TD is saying though Rad... he asked what would NOT have been. :)Ah. Well, that's just being... that word I forgot. It's not really important... as I say my answer is 'Eriador as lively and beautiful as it was' or something like that... I don't think the Queen of Gondor has any importance, really. Just my opinion... oyu may continue now.. :)

[Valandil]

Ah. Well, that's just being... that word I forgot. It's not really important... as I say my answer is 'Eriador as lively and beautiful as it was' or something like that... I don't think the Queen of Gondor has any importance, really. Just my opinion... oyu may continue now.. :)

You'd change your mind REAL quick if you were the KING of Gondor!! ;)

I think the English word you want is 'picky'! :p

[Pytt]

hellu. i belive it's my turn to post. well, let's see then. i must say, it's been a loooong time since last i've read something in the appendix, or in the book as a whole for that matter.

what was the third trouble which imapaired Gondors lacking forces for almost hundred years?

[Rosie Gamgee]

Um, your question is kind of vague, so I'm guessing in the dark, but, maybe, that really long Winter. It had a name, but it just left my brain (sneaky facts- they use the back door and I can't keep track)

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

I think you mean The Fell Winter but that was in The Shire.

Invasion fomr Umbar?

[Rosie Gamgee]

No, no, there was a really long winter that hit all of Middle Earth. Gondor suffered really bad, and I think somebody important (like a prince or something) in Rohan died or something.

[Pytt]

I think you mean The Fell Winter but that was in The Shire.

Invasion fomr Umbar?

your on to something with the Umbar invasion. but not exactly.

[Valandil]

I think pytt is asking about the Third of the Three Evils. If this helps, the first two were:

1. The Kin-slaying (mid 1400's TA)

2. The Great Plagues (mid 1600's TA)

3. ?? ;)

Rosie is correct in that there was a 'Long Winter' distinct from the 'Fell Winter' - and it was that winter when Rohan had unrest and Helm Hammerhand died... but that (and the Fell Winter) were both about 1000 years (give or take) after #3 above. :)

And I don't think either the Long Winter or the Fell Winter had too much direct impact on Gondor.

[Pytt]

yes, valandil has got it! i'm asking for the third evil. what was it?

[Rosie Gamgee]

The War of the Ring? (this whole 'three evils' thing is in the Appendix? :D )

[Pytt]

no, it is not the war of the ring. and yes, it is in the appendix.