*Appendix Trivia*

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
The king is Tranon, and the meaning is the beach's lord, I think.

Well... I'll give you the first two parts: It's 'Taranon' and the meaning of Falastur is 'Lord of Coasts' (I'm guessing you're translating from Hebrew... does modern Hebrew still leave out the vowels, like old Hebrew did?)

Do you know the other part... the two things that Taranon Falastur was 'first' at? :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by Valandil
Well... I'll give you the first two parts: It's 'Taranon' and the meaning of Falastur is 'Lord of Coasts' (I'm guessing you're translating from Hebrew... does modern Hebrew still leave out the vowels, like old Hebrew did?)

Do you know the other part... the two things that Taranon Falastur was 'first' at? :) I have no idea :p

And no, there's 'pointing' of hebrew vowel marks, so I guess I didn't remember it properly.

[Valandil]

OK - first I'll give other interested parties three hours from this post to correctly answer the other two parts... and if nobody does, I'll give those other answers and award the question to you. :)

[Valandil]

OK... the three hours have passed. King Taranon Falastur, 'Lord of Coasts' was the first of the Ship Kings, and the first childless King of Gondor.

Radagast the Brown: your turn! :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Ok. :)

What danger did come in the days of Beren, the 19th Steward of Gondor?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Ok. :)

What danger did come in the days of Beren, the 19th Steward of Gondor?

Was it attacks of orcs & Easterlings at the same time that Rohan was under attack from the Dunlendings? :confused:

[Twista]

Oooh its a tough one...

[Cirdan]

THere was a plague of sorts and a bad winter as well, I believe.

[Radagast The Brown]

No, that's wrong.

[Earniel]

Invasion of the wainriders?

[Radagast The Brown]

What are wainriders? :o

[Cirdan]

The arrival of the Witchking in Minas Morgul?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
What are wainriders? :o

A group that came from the east and attacked Gondor, mostly in the 1800's of the Third Age I think (sorry Earniel... that was long before the 19th Steward... Gondor still had a King then! :) ). It's all in Appendix A in the part about Gondor.

[Radagast The Brown]

Oh - them. No, not them. And not the Nazgul in Minas Morgul either.

[Cirdan]

Well, there were Orcs coming from Moria and that is one of the reasons Beren gave the keys of Orthanc to Saruman. (Hey, there was lots of bad stufff happening around then).:)

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by Cirdan
Well, there were Orcs coming from Moria and that is one of the reasons Beren gave the keys of Orthanc to Saruman. (Hey, there was lots of bad stufff happening around then).:) I'm pretty sure they attacked Rohan though; someone else attacked Gondor. Beren gave the keys because Rohan was in a bad situation after the war, IIRC.

[Cirdan]

...but is that the answer you were looking for?

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by Cirdan
...but is that the answer you were looking for? I'm looking for the Enemy that ttacked Gondor. :)

[Cirdan]

Corsairs from Umbar?

[Radagast The Brown]

Yes, and from Harad. Your turn.

[Cirdan]

Name the two Elf lords who summoned armies to support Earnur's assault on the Witchking in Angmar.

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Cirdan
Name the two Elf lords who summoned armies to support Earnur's assault on the Witchking in Angmar.

Lessee: Elrond and... CIRDAN???! :p

[Cirdan]

Originally posted by Valandil
Lessee: Elrond and... CIRDAN???! :p

heh heh... I was there, but Elrond? not so sure.;)

[Radagast The Brown]

Glorfindel, of course. :)

[Cirdan]

right! next...

[Radagast The Brown]

What is the name of the tall mountain in the middle of Numenore?

[Beor]

Meneltarma

[Radagast The Brown]

correct.

[Beor]

Hey, so what now, do I go(q)

Oh, and you messed up in your signature. Its is supposed to read: Vote for Sister Golden Hair and Valandil, Forget hectorberlioz ;) :D

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by Beor
Hey, so what now, do I go(q)

Oh, and you messed up in your signature. Its is supposed to read: Vote for Sister Golden Hair and Valandil, Forget hectorberlioz ;) :D Yes.

Something is wrong, indeed... I should add SGH with hector. :rolleyes:

[Beor]

Right, what did Elrond call Aragorn to keep his lineage secret(q)
Just joking about the sig, man;)

[Radagast The Brown]

Estel?

Oh, I know. :)

[Beor]

Yup, Estel is correct. And sorry I had to go last night, I had to attend to something urgent. Go ahed, Rad

[Radagast The Brown]

What is the word for 'sunrise' in Sindarin?

[Maegondowen]

amrûn

[Radagast The Brown]

Correct. :)

[Maegondowen]

In which year did Denethor marry Finduilas?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Maegondowen
In which year did Denethor marry Finduilas?

Third Age, 2974?

[Maegondowen]

Third Age, 2974?

No, but close.

[Valandil]

2975?

[Orli17]

2976???

[Maegondowen]

Orli17, you got it! :D

They married in 2976 T.A.

[Orli17]

yaaaaay!! but er actually it was a guess....hehe....sorry. anyways here's the question:

When was Aragorn (son of Arathorn II) born?
If you can give me specific dates that'll be cool, but only the year is also fine :D

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Orli17
When was Aragorn (son of Arathorn II) born?
If you can give me specific dates that'll be cool, but only the year is also fine :D

March 1, 2931! :)

[Orli17]

yep! you got it!!:D

[Valandil]

OK...

How many older brothers did King Valandil have?

And why did he get to become king anyway, with older brothers?

[Radagast The Brown]

3.

Because they were killed with Isildur in the Gladden Fields, by orcs, and Valandil was in Rivendell during the war against Sauron.

[Valandil]

Correct Radagast... your turn!

[Radagast The Brown]

When (year+day, to make it harder) did Frodo resign from being mayor?

[Twista]

I thought he was only deputy mayor?

Anyway he quit that position on Mid Summers Day, 3020

[Radagast The Brown]

Yeah... it supposed to be 'mayor office'.

You're right.

[Valandil]

OK - we got a 72 hour rule on this thread... and it's been 4 days, not just 3! But since today is Twista's birthday, we'll give him another 24 hours to post the next question... otherwise, the floor is open for a good appendix question.

[Valandil]

OK - a week is WAY too long... next question:

Who was it that men called Bema?

[Twista]

Oromë

lol... do i get to own it for another week? :P

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Twista
Oromë

Yes!

lol... do i get to own it for another week? :P

No! :p

[Twista]

Who was Celebrimbor descended from?

[Valandil]

Feanor?

[Twista]

Yes Val, yes! ;)

[Valandil]

In what year was Eomund, father of Eomer and Eowyn, killed by orcs at the Emyn Muil?

[Radagast The Brown]

3000 TA?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
3000 TA?

Kinda close, but not quite. :)

[Twista]

3002... ;)

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Twista
3002... ;)

Correct!

Did you remember that...? Or check it? :p ;)

[Twista]

Originally posted by Valandil
Correct!

Did you remember that...? Or check it? :p ;)

i guessed it! P

- What does King Aragorn do in the north in 1436?

[Cirdan]

gives dominion over the shire to the hobbits?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Cirdan
gives dominion over the shire to the hobbits?

Cirdan, 'Twista' is not keeping up with his duties. ;) I checked, and your answer was incorrect. He had done that 9 years before in 1427. King Elessar actually did SEVERAL things in that 1436 visit. Do you - or anyone else - want to try again? :)

[brownjenkins]

is that the trip where he gives sam, then mayor, some kind of star or medal?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
is that the trip where he gives sam, then mayor, some kind of star or medal?

Yes! He gave him 'The Star of the Northern Dunedain' - and I think some of us have already debated whether that was an 'Elendilmir' (crown of Arnor) - or maybe one of those cool star thingees like the Grey Company wore! ;)

Your turn!

[brownjenkins]

how did hobbits deal with the leap-years in their calendars?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
how did hobbits deal with the leap-years in their calendars?

Now THAT'S a fun one: Every fourth year (with certain exceptions) they added a day called the over-lithe, after the lithe, which was mid-summer's day. Neither the lithe nor the over-lithe had a corresponding day of the week... which allowed them to keep their calendars in order, with every date always keeping the same week-day! :)

[brownjenkins]

very good!! you get a gold star ;)

and the next question as well :)

[Valandil]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
very good!! you get a gold star ;)

and the next question as well :)

Oooo... could I get one of those 'rayed silver stars' instead??? ;)

Question: Who was the grandfather (paternal) of Celebrindor?

[Radagast The Brown]

Amlaith?

[Valandil]

Not Amlaith... but good guess! :)

[Twista]

Could it possibly be Mallor?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Twista
Could it possibly be Mallor?

Mallor is correct! :) Your turn Twista! Just keep the thread rolling, K? :p ;)

(I was wondering if someone would think of 'Celebrimbor'... and guess Feanor - but you guys weren't fooled! :D

[Earniel]

Originally posted by Valandil
(I was wondering if someone would think of 'Celebrimbor'... and guess Feanor - but you guys weren't fooled! :D

I was mightily tempted. But after Radagast's guess I began to suspect you hadn't just typed Celebrimbor wrong. :p

[Twista]

Okay a new question before Val gets on my back...

- In what year does Valandil become king of Arnor?

;)

[Nimbrennil]

Suilad,

Not quite sure...

Wasn't it like the Year 2 of the Third Age? ...

Hmm... maybe I missed something there...

Oh well. Please reply. Thanks!

Namarie,
--Nimbrennil

[Lalaith_Elf]

Some time in the Second Age wasn't it?

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

TA 249? 250? or 251?

i know it was around that time or so...

[Radagast The Brown]

I think it's year 15 TA. Or close. Because he was very young during the Last Allliance, so he had to grow before being a king... after Isildor died.

[Valandil]

*sigh*

Year 10, Third Age... I remember it all too well! ;)

[Twista]

Valandil. Of course your correct! :)

Just a little off Last Child! lol :p

[Valandil]

Chrys - you're actually right on the mark of when Valandil's reign ended, rather than when it started. :)

OK, question: When did the Istari first appear in Middle-earth?

[Orli17]

a thousand years after Sauron was overthrown in the second age? i'm not too sure.....

[Valandil]

Yes - your turn (JRRT doesn't give exact date on this one - he says in a few different places though that it was about 1000 years into the Third Age). :)

[Twista]

So whats going on here? New question. Ive got to love my appendix trivia. :D

[Orli17]

ok here's a question:

on which date was Frodo stabbed by Shelob? you dun have to include the year......:p

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Orli17
ok here's a question:

on which date was Frodo stabbed by Shelob? you dun have to include the year......:p

Year is no problem... 3019! Was it March 15? I know it was on it or near it... :)

[Orli17]

ok i didn't know the year...hehe....
but the date is close!!! keep trying!!!!:D

[Valandil]

March 13?

[Orli17]

yep!!:D

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Orli17
yep!!:D

Thank you!

How many generations were there from Elendil to Aragorn... including the two of them (just so it's clear)? :)

[Twista]

13?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Twista
13?

no :)

[Radagast The Brown]

35? Is Twista closer?

[brownjenkins]

40?

[Valandil]

brownjenkins is VERY close! :)

[Orli17]

38??

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Orli17
38??
no :)

[Orli17]

39?

[Count Comfect]

41?

[Orli17]

41?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Count Comfect
41?
41 is correct... counting both Elendil and Aragorn! :)

Your turn, Count!

[Orli17]

sorry didn't see that count comfect had posted already.....:) darn the 90 second rule......

[Count Comfect]

Well, I'm at school and bookless, so go Orli17. Since I can't

[Orli17]

ok :) ...thanksssessss.....

Aragorn served a king of rohan and a steward(i think) of Gondor in disguise. Who were these two rulers?

[Radagast The Brown]

Thengel and Echtelion 2nd.

[Orli17]

yep..ur turn Radagast!:)

[Radagast The Brown]

How old was the sceptre of Annuminas? (roughly)

[brownjenkins]

really old :D

it came from numenor... and was the object of the royal line of the lords of andunie... so, by the end of the fourth age i believe it would have been in existance for close to two ages, or a bit less than 6000 years?

[Radagast The Brown]

You mean by the end of the Third age?
If yes - you exaggerated a bit. :p 6000 is too old for this sceptre. :) Good try though.

[brownjenkins]

yeah, end of third age... i thought the sceptre originated with lords of andunie of numenor... which split off around 550 SA

putting the sceptre at about 5900 by the end of the TA (to be more exact ;) )

but, i must have confused my royal artifacts (where's Val :) )

[Valandil]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
yeah, end of third age... i thought the sceptre originated with lords of andunie of numenor... which split off around 550 SA

putting the sceptre at about 5900 by the end of the TA (to be more exact ;) )

but, i must have confused my royal artifacts (where's Val :) )

I thought you sounded about right, but I'm not certain... I remember it's in a footnote... :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Not 5900 years, no. It is the sceptre of Andunie, but it's much younger than 5900. I guess I shouldn't have said 'a bit exaggerated'.

Yeah Valandil, it's in a footnote. :p

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Not 5900 years, no. It is the sceptre of Andunie, but it's much younger than 5900. I guess I shouldn't have said 'a bit exaggerated'.

Yeah Valandil, it's in a footnote. :p

OK Raddy, you've had us stumped on this one for way too long, so I just looked it up. The note says it was 'already more than five thousand years old when Elrond surrendered it to Aragorn' so it doesn't give an exact age...

Radagast, do you want to ask another - since you got us all on that one? Or brownjenkins, do you want to - since you were in the ballpark? I'll give either of you at least 24 hours to get up the next question - and I'll post one if you haven't yet.

[Radagast The Brown]

Heh. :p No, Valandil, you ask the next question.

[Valandil]

OK... from when until when was 'The Watchful Peace'? :)

[Radagast The Brown]

From 2050 to 2450 TA?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
From 2050 to 2450 TA?

You're relatively close on both. I'll just wait a bit to see if someone gets closer without looking it up (be honest now folks!) - and if nobody gets right on it, you've got it! :)

[Radagast The Brown]

I did remember it's about 400 years... hmmm.. 2040 - 2440? Am I getting closer or further?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
I did remember it's about 400 years... hmmm.. 2040 - 2440? Am I getting closer or further?

See PM I sent you - and post here if you want to try again. Meanwhile, your PM box just filled up. :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by Valandil
See PM I sent you - and post here if you want to try again. Meanwhile, your PM box just filled up. :) Ok - I saw your PM, answered, and cleaned the inbox. (how did you know it filled?). (also guessed in the PM - but let's guess here too)

2060-2460?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Ok - I saw your PM, answered, and cleaned the inbox. (how did you know it filled?). (also guessed in the PM - but let's guess here too)

2060-2460?

I knew because I tried to reply back to you again.

I'm gonna give it to you on those years! The 2460 is exact for when it ended... it officially began in 2063!

Your turn! :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Ok. Thanks. :)

In what time of the day did the fellowship of the ring leave Rivendell?

[Orli17]

at dawn?

[Count Comfect]

Dusk.

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

sometime between elevenses and lunch

[Radagast The Brown]

dusk is correct.

[Count Comfect]

Hmmm, since I said dusk, that would make it my turn, no?
What was the only issue on which Thorongil and Denethor disagreed before Thorongil departed towards Mordor?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Count Comfect
What was the only issue on which Thorongil and Denethor disagreed before Thorongil departed towards Mordor?

Thorongil always advised Ecthelion to trust in the counsel of Gandalf, while Denethor preferred the counsel of Saruman.

?? :)

[Count Comfect]

Yessir. Never said it was hard.

[Valandil]

Who was the only female dwarf mentioned by name in these histories of Middle-earth? :)

[Count Comfect]

Dis, mother of Fili and Kili, sister of Thorin

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Count Comfect
Dis, mother of Fili and Kili, sister of Thorin

Yes! :) ergo, your go! :p

[Count Comfect]

How many generations are between Thorin II Oakenshield and Durin VI (including the two of them)?

[Radagast The Brown]

8?

[Valandil]

11?

[Count Comfect]

Close, but no cigar.

[Radagast The Brown]

10?

[Count Comfect]

Indeed. Your go!

EDIT: Sorry as I am to say this, I appear to have counted wrong. The correct answer was actually 11, and so Valandil actually had it.
As Radagast has not posted, I could suggest Valandil do so, but whichever way works for you two, as the mistake is mine.
Sorry for the trouble. I really should know how to count.

[Valandil]

No problem... I'll bet it was the slide that got you, not the counting! ;) Ooo... VERY tempted to make a very bad pun about your name and 'counting' - but I'll spare us all. :p

OK - sticking with the dwarves: of the thirteen dwarves who went on the quest for Erebor, only one is known to have been a father at the time. Which one was he? :)

[Count Comfect]

Let's see - poor Thorin was childless, Fili and Kili were young... gah. *wills not to look up* Something in me wants to say Dwalin.

Btw- I just started counting from Thrain II instead of Thorin II. Doh. And thank you for your humourous forbearance.

[Valandil]

You're welcome - and like I said, no problem. :)

(my first two tries on the 'Hobbit Trivia' thread I asked TOTALLY bad questions... I was trying to go from memory - and I completely mis-remembered the first - and the second actually was told in FOTR instead of 'The Hobbit' - boy was I embarrassed!) :D

Not Dwalin though.

[Count Comfect]

Well, I do not want to be the only guesser here, but ...
Bombur?

[Valandil]

It's OK... but no, not Bombur! :)

[brownjenkins]

gloin was gimli's father, who should have been alive at the time... though i am not sure if this would be considered 'known at the time' or not

[Count Comfect]

*ticks off dwarf names* hmm... Dori?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
gloin was gimli's father, who should have been alive at the time... though i am not sure if this would be considered 'known at the time' or not

Gloin, father of Gimli is correct! And by 'known at the time' - I meant, from the appendices, known to have been a father at that time - not necessarily known from reading 'The Hobbit'. Gloin is the only one on the charts with any offspring shown - though some of the others might have had some as well - we're just not told about it.

Your turn Mr. Jenkins (or is it Mr. Brown - the famous character from 'Hop on Pop'?)! :)

[brownjenkins]

Originally posted by Valandil
Your turn Mr. Jenkins (or is it Mr. Brown - the famous character from 'Hop on Pop'?)! :)

hmm... i'm not sure... off topic bonus question, what author inspired my screen name? ;)

appendix :confused:

where does thorin I go after leaving erebor?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
hmm... i'm not sure... off topic bonus question, what author inspired my screen name? ;)

appendix :confused:

where does thorin I go after leaving erebor?

your screen name - i don't know

thorin i - oh - it was up north... which dang mountain range was that... the grey mountains?? :confused:

(with-held from cap use in deference to you, sir! :p )

[brownjenkins]

hehe, correct... guess i couldn't pull the 'other thorin' trick on ya :p

[Valandil]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
hehe, correct... guess i couldn't pull the 'other thorin' trick on ya :p

You probably would have if I hadn't just double-checked that family tree last night when we were sorting out how many generations from Durin VI to Thorin II. :p

Sticking with those dwarves:

Which three dwarves in Thorin's company were descended from dwarves of Moria, but NOT from the royal line?

[Count Comfect]

I do believe that was Ori, Nori and Dori. But not sure.

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Count Comfect
I do believe that was Ori, Nori and Dori. But not sure.
Sorry - not those three. Do try again though - if you like. :)

[Count Comfect]

OK. I am going to either feel cheap or stupid... Bifur/Bofur/Bombur?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Count Comfect
OK. I am going to either feel cheap or stupid... Bifur/Bofur/Bombur?

Feel neither - those three are correct. The footnote on the family tree tells us that - as well as telling us that Ori, Nori and Dori were related to Thorin - but not as near. Balin, Dwalin, Oin and Gloin are all shown on the family tree - along with Fili and Kili of course.

Your turn again Count Comfect. :)

(PS - what does YOUR name come from? It makes me think of 'confectious sugar'! :p )

[Count Comfect]

OK, let's stay with dwarves.
What did Dain Ironfoot say about the plan to move into Moria after the defeat of Azog?

(PS - my name comes from playing Claudio in Shakespeare's Much Ado About Nothing. He is described as "a goodly count, Count Comfect" when Beatrice is really mad at him)

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Count Comfect
OK, let's stay with dwarves.
What did Dain Ironfoot say about the plan to move into Moria after the defeat of Azog?


Well... you, brownjenkins and I have been batting this thread about, so I WAS going to let someone else in... but I think now I'll take a stab at it after all. It was something like:

"I have looked inside the doors of Moria. It waits for you still... Durin's Bane. Some great change (or power?) must come to the world before we dwarves can ever live in Moria again."

[Count Comfect]

Good enough for me.

[Valandil]

OK, after Sauron was caught in the wreck of Numenor, and his bodily form perished - what was he unable ever again to do?

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Dazzle girls with his good looks.:D
I'm not saying he was elephant man, but...

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Tuor of Gondolin
Dazzle girls with his good looks.:D
I'm not saying he was elephant man, but...

Well... ACTUALLY, to assume a form that seemed fair to men! :eek:

Hmmm - funny, I never thought of Sauron that way! ;) :p

But you go ahead and go, Tuor. :)

[brownjenkins]

OK, after Sauron was caught in the wreck of Numenor, and his bodily form perished - what was he unable ever again to do?

he developed severe Thalassophobia

1: fear of the ocean: a persistent, abnormal, and unwarranted fear of the sea or the ocean , despite the understanding by the phobic individual and reassurance by others that there is no danger. 2: fear of the ocean: a strong fear of, dislike of, or aversion to the sea or the ocean.

unable to continue his annual fishing trips with 'the mouth' to the sea of nurnen... the lack of 'me time' has been suspected to have contributed to his increasing disagreeable disposition as the ages wore on ;)

[Tuor of Gondolin]

"he developed severe Thalassophobia"
That would tend to explain why I've never seen him fishing off Ocean City or any other New Jersey area.
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"Well... ACTUALLY, to assume a form that seemed fair to men! "
So, Sauron was a log cabin Republican?

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Moving along:

What were ways in which the Tengwar were distinguished from the Cirth?

[Count Comfect]

I don't really know, but it might be good to bump this up. Also I have at least a guess.

One was written with a brush, the other inscribed?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Count Comfect
I don't really know, but it might be good to bump this up. Also I have at least a guess.

One was written with a brush, the other inscribed?

CC - Tuor never got back to this, so I'll assume he forgot about it. I looked it up and think you deserve it - because you're correct! :) And it was the 'Tengwar' which were written with a pen or brush and the 'Cirth' which were inscribed. VERY GOOD! And... your turn! :)

[Count Comfect]

Okee dokee then.

Why would the Dunlendings not approach the dead body of Helm Hammerhand?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Count Comfect
Okee dokee then.

Why would the Dunlendings not approach the dead body of Helm Hammerhand?

They were still s-s-sc-scared of him? Frozen solid, standing up and all? :eek:

[Count Comfect]

Yes, they thought he'd still be able to kill them somehow.

To you.

[Tuor of Gondolin]

"CC - Tuor never got back to this, so I'll assume he forgot about it. I looked it up and think you deserve it - because you're correct! And it was the 'Tengwar' which were written with a pen or brush and the 'Cirth' which were inscribed. VERY GOOD! And... your turn!"
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Sorry about that. That's correct.

[Valandil]

OK - no peeking now... What year of the Second Age was Numenor destroyed?

[Radagast The Brown]

3150?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
3150?

Nope.

(later) :)

[Radagast The Brown]

It wasn't close either, eh? There isn't much later though... 3400?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
3400?

Again no - but closer this time.

(and it's earlier) :)

[Radagast The Brown]

3300? (Well... nobody guessed in a day, so I thought to try another one...)

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
3300? (Well... nobody guessed in a day, so I thought to try another one...)

Closer still... and it's in the lower half of the 3300's... and is not a nice, even round number. ;)

[Tuor of Gondolin]

3333????

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Tuor of Gondolin
3333????

lower... :)

[Radagast The Brown]

3330? It sounds right. From some reason.:confused:

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
3330? It sounds right. From some reason.:confused:

Sorry... lower still. :)

[Radagast The Brown]

3329, 92 days, 15 hours and 23 minutes!

Errr.... what about 3300?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
3329, 92 days, 15 hours and 23 minutes!

Errr.... what about 3300?

Wasn't 3329 - and I only asked for the year. You already tried 3300. It is somewhere between the two... on the high side. :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by Valandil
Wasn't 3329 - and I only asked for the year. You already tried 3300. It is somewhere between the two... on the high side. :) No, I haven't - I tried 3330. And the first one wasn't really serious...
Hmmmmm.....
3320?

[Count Comfect]

3325?

[Valandil]

Not 3320 or 3325, it's not a multiple of either 2 or 3 or 5... in fact, I figured out it's a prime number and the 'XY' in '33XY' is also a prime number... if that helps! ;) :p

[Count Comfect]

3323?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Count Comfect
3323?

No... pretty close though. :)

[Radagast The Brown]

3319?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
3319?

YES! Your turn, Rad... :)

[Radagast The Brown]

At alst. :p

Ok, in the same age, an easy question - how long did the siege of Barad Dur last? (in the Last Allience)

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
At alst. :p

Ok, in the same age, an easy question - how long did the siege of Barad Dur last? (in the Last Allience)

Lessee... I was a small boy then, but I THINK it was 3434 to 3441.

[Radagast The Brown]

Correct. :) Inclueding the years. you'r eamazing Valandil.

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Correct. :) Inclueding the years. you'r eamazing Valandil.

Oh - I'm not like that with everything... I've just become especially enamored of Arnor, Gondor, Elendil, etc - and have immersed myself enough in details of those things to be pretty fluent. We all do that in our areas of interest... you just hit right on mine with your question. :)

[Valandil]

Boy... and I get onto other people for holding this thread up! :o :p

OK... Why did the Kings at Fornost after Malvegil take names with the prefix ar/ara?

[Radagast The Brown]

ooh, I know that. It's because the kings of Arthedain reclaimed all of Arnor, and so started using 'Ar-' in the beginning of thier names, as a signal of some sort. I think...

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
ooh, I know that. It's because the kings of Arthedain reclaimed all of Arnor, and so started using 'Ar-' in the beginning of thier names, as a signal of some sort. I think...
Yes, you got the right idea! I think the words are something like; in token of their claim of all Arnor...

Your turn! :)

[Radagast The Brown]

Who (some say) slew Fram, and why?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Who (some say) slew Fram, and why?

Well... SOME say it was them DWARVES as done it! Couldn't take a joke, I'd guess. Fram was fresh from slaying that old dragon, Scatha - and some of the dwarves came by asking if they could get some of their old treasure back... what Scatha had dispossessed them of.

Anyhow, ole Fram thought it'd be quite funny to just send them a necklace of Scatha's teeth - you know, telling them that THIS treasure was quite hard to come by. The dwarves, now they didn't think it was all that funny - and they done him in.

:p

[Radagast The Brown]

Errrr... interesting way to put this. :p Correct, Val. :)

[Valandil]

Why (apart from normal 'father of the bride' stuff) did Dirhael have misgivings about marrying off his young daughter, Gilraen, to Arathorn son of Arador? :)

[The Gaffer]

He he (pictures a "meet the parents" type episode under a bush somewhere in Arnor)

Was it some sort of spooky premonition that Arathorn wasn't long for this world, to which Gilraen replied along the lines that all the more reason to hurry so that the line can be continued?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by The Gaffer
He he (pictures a "meet the parents" type episode under a bush somewhere in Arnor)

Was it some sort of spooky premonition that Arathorn wasn't long for this world, to which Gilraen replied along the lines that all the more reason to hurry so that the line can be continued?

That was the gist of what he was saying, so I'll give it to you. He also said something maybe indicating that he thought Arathorn a bit old for her... but followed up with what you say, so that was probably the point he was really making. :)

Your turn.

[The Gaffer]

Yoinks! That was a wild guess. Hmmm.

Who was Azog's dwarf messenger?

[Radagast The Brown]

Nar?

[The Gaffer]

Yowza! Quick as a flash.

Your turn :cool:

[Radagast The Brown]

:)

What flowers were growing in Cerin Amroth?

[cassiopeia]

Elanor.

[Radagast The Brown]

There was another flower growing there...

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
There was another flower growing there...

daffodils?

[Radagast The Brown]

No.

[Earniel]

Nimphedril?

[Valandil]

Forget-me-nots? :p ;)

[Radagast The Brown]

It's Niphredil I think... and it's correct. :)

[Earniel]

Nehheh, my memory seems to be adding letters then. :p

Alriiiiight, question: How many ruling queens did Númenor have?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Eärniel
Nehheh, my memory seems to be adding letters then. :p

Alriiiiight, question: How many ruling queens did Númenor have?

Four?

[Radagast The Brown]

Three...? Because Miriel doesn't count as ruling.

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Three...? Because Miriel doesn't count as ruling.

I figured she wouldn't count... just didn't remember whether there were three without her or four without her... so I just guessed 'four' - and I imagine at least one of us is right! :p

[Earniel]

It was a bit of trick question with MÃ*riel. :p But I see I couldn't foul you. Three queens it is. Your turn, Radagast.

[Radagast The Brown]

How did Arathorn (2nd) die?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
How did Arathorn (2nd) die?

Ugh! The hunter became the hunted. While out 'hunting orcs' with the Peredhil twins, Elladan and Elrohir, he took an orc arrow in the neck! :eek:

[Radagast The Brown]

Waqsn't it in his eye? :p

Your turn.

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Waqsn't it in his eye? :p

Your turn.

Oh - you might be right... even worse! :eek:

OK - which King of Arthedain gave the land grant, which eventually came to be 'The Shire', to the halflings?

[Radagast The Brown]

Argeleb 2nd?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Argeleb 2nd?

Yes! :)

[Radagast The Brown]

How did 'iu' was pronounced, usually, in Quenia of the Third age?

[Valandil]

Wild guess: "we"? :)

[Radagast The Brown]

nope.

[Count Comfect]

Hmm.. for randomness, oo?

[Radagast The Brown]

No.

[Count Comfect]

That was FAST. ee?

[Radagast The Brown]

No.

[Valandil]

'ee-oo'? :p

[Count Comfect]

you?

[Radagast The Brown]

'yu' is correct. :)

[Count Comfect]

Who was Lord of the Mark when Saruman came to Isengard?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Count Comfect
Who was Lord of the Mark when Saruman came to Isengard?

Frealaf? Or something like that... (I know it sounds a LOT like Eorl's horse! :D )

[Count Comfect]

Perzacto.

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Count Comfect
Perzacto.

Now THAT'S a funny name! :p

To whom did Aragorn give the Ring of Barahir?

[Radagast The Brown]

Sam?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Sam?

No :)

[Vicky]

Arwen

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Vicky
Arwen

Yes... quite the engagement ring, eh? ;)

Your turn Vicky! :)

[Vicky]

Originally posted by Valandil
Yes... quite the engagement ring, eh? ;)


I wouldn't say no if someone gives something like that... :D

I hope no one has askes this before (I'm to lazy to read everything)

When did Thorongil say goodbye to Ecthelion and how?

[Count Comfect]

When he returned from raiding Umbar, and by refusing to enter the city.

[Vicky]

Yes and no, not really....

[Radagast The Brown]

He sent a message with the other soldiers of Gondor.,

[Valandil]

It WAS after the raid he led on Umbar, but he said "good-bye" to his men, sending such word to the Steward - and by refusing to even go back to the city. I think they were down at Pelargir. :)

Then he headed east... toward the place unspeakable! :eek: