Quote Game - Part 12

[Butterbeer]

Hard not to use powerful smilies when England came back from 2-0 down to win 2-3 away in Germany ( who are World Champions!) :D

Er, yes, there are two different clues, one is a type of cryptic crossword type thing, and since it's Easter has a chocolate theme partly- and the other an anagram.

Both clues are contained within the spoliers yes :)
Given i was drinking beer and watching the football at the same time, i hope they make sense?

[Valandil]

I checked out those clues... still too tough for me!

[Butterbeer]

Really? :o First clue should not be too hard i hope...

.. an animal that rhymes with part of my entmoot name? Should be easy :thumb:-



Animal rhymes with part of my Entmoot name...therefore .. the animal rhymes with either Butt, :D, Butter or Beer :D
That answer gives you the last three letters of speakers name - - - Please note, the spelling isn't quite the same but sounds the same.)

First three letters of the speakers name - - - are the first three letters of this Famous Swiss chocolate maker / Brand...

Add Chcocolate to an animal.. and you get an Easter inspired mash-up clue that names the speaker :)


One final clue.. its not a chocolate bunny... that'd be chobun...:D

[Earniel]

Funny thing, I can't think of a single swiss chocolate brand right now. Bad, bad, me. Must be all the chocolate eggs I ate...

But the animal-clue might work.

Haldir?

[Butterbeer]

Not Haldir, but you are half right... dir is correct :thumb:

_ _ _ D I R

Not know your Chocolate????:eek::eek::eek:
I find that hard to believe! :D

[Earniel]

I know my Belgian chocolate and since there's enough of that for me, I haven't had reason to take an interest in others. :D

So consider me once again stumped. Unless 'Tubdir' is some obscure Elf, because that's as far as I got on the riddles.

But to be honest, I'm doubting it...:p

[Butterbeer]

Sadly not the infamous Tubdir... :D The inventor in the first Age of the Elvish Giant Gondolin Gorzongola bucket sized chips!!

Here's a picture clue.. This should do it..

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.slashfood.com/media/2010/12/chocolate-reindeer-lindt-590.jpg

[Earniel]

Bunnidir!? :p

That can't be right. Oh wait...

Sooo I suspect the sligthly more tolkien-sounding 'Lindir' will be the one you're after.

[Butterbeer]

Dats da Bunny!!! :D
Bunnidir it is.

Oh dear, oh deary me. I jest, it is of course Lindir :)
Well done Earniel, correct answer. Your go.
:)

[Earniel]

"T_e_/_r_/h_a_i_g/_l_e_d_/./I/_a_/k_p_/v_g_l/_y/_y/_r_t_e_/f_r/_w_/n_g_t_/,
/a_d/_a_t/_i_h_/I/_l_p_/./I/_o_e/_e_o_e/_o_n_n_/c_m_/,/a_d/_/w_s/_n/_a_n/,
/_n_/f_u_d/_y/_e_s/_l_s_e_e_/./T_e_/I/_u_s_e_/w_a_/h_d/_a_p_n_d/./ _l_s/!
/_f/_o_e/_o_e_/p_s_e_/f_o_/y_u/_o/_/t_i_g/_h_t/_o_/h_v_/m_d_/,/t_e_/y_u/
_u_t/_a_e/_/s_a_e/_n/_t_/h_r_s/.

[Valandil]

Hey - look Midge! Someone besides you and me has posted the last two in a row now!!!

"They are hearing /_l_e_d_/. I had kept vigil by my /_r_t_e_/ for two nights,
and last night I slept. I woke /_e_o_e/_o_n_n_/c_m_/,
and I was in /_a_n/, and found my /_e_s/_l_s_e_e_/.
Then I /_u_s_e_/ what had happened. Alas!
If some /_o_e_/ passes from you to a thing that you have made,
then you must have a share in its hurts."

[Butterbeer]

Is it.. I had kept vigil by my 'brother'?
And woke 'before'?

[Earniel]

Hey - look Midge! Someone besides you and me has posted the last two in a row now!!!
Yes, amazing, isn't it? It does happen! :p

This is what you have correct so far:

"They are h_a_i_g /_l_e_d_/. I had kept vigil by my brother for two nights,
and last night I slept. I woke before/_o_n_n_/c_m_/, and I was in /_a_n/,
and found my /_e_s/_l_s_e_e_/. Then I /_u_s_e_/ what had happened. Alas!
If some /_o_e_/ passes from you to a thing that you have made, then you
must have a share in its hurts."

[Valandil]

"They are healing /_l_e_d_/. I had kept vigil by my brother for two nights,
and last night I slept. I woke before morning came, and I was in /_a_n/,
and found my /_e_s/_l_s_e_e_/. Then I /_u_s_e_/ what had happened. Alas!
If some /_o_e_/ passes from you to a thing that you have made, then you
must have a share in its hurts."

Edited to try: "healing"

I can't place this one yet. Maybe the words still missing will help.

[Butterbeer]

I cant place it either.
Will guess at 'guessed' .. What happened?

Also.. And found my... 'legs' ????

[Valandil]

And maybe that's 'already' in the first line?

"...and I was in 'pain'?"

[Midge]

:O I'm in shock!

This will include the unconfirmed guesses given by Val and BB.

"They are healing already. I had kept vigil by my brother for two nights,
and last night I slept. I woke before morning come, and I was in pain,
and found my /_e_s/_l_s_e_e_/. Then I guessed what had happened. Alas!
If some /_o_e_/ passes from you to a thing that you have made, then you
must have a share in its hurts."

So "plastered" fits in that spot after BB's guess "legs". Which when you put the two together, it's just FUNNY.

[Earniel]

"They are healing already. I had kept vigil by my brother for two nights,
and last night I slept. I woke before morning came, and I was in pain,
and found my legs/_l_s_e_e_/. Then I guessed what had happened. Alas!
If some /_o_e_/ passes from you to a thing that you have made, then you
must have a share in its hurts."

Plastered, however funny, sadly isn't correct. :p

Any ideas towards the speaker? I'll admit that one is a bit more obscure than Bunnidir. :D

[Valandil]

Someone with a brother, who needed a vigil kept over him. I'm thinking this must be a Silmarillion or UT quote, but can't place it yet.

[Valandil]

Is the second unsolved word 'power'?

[Earniel]

'Power' is correct.

[Butterbeer]

The legs riddle has been confounding me..

Midge's 'plastered' genius evoked a drunken night out replete with traffic cones..
..and has led my imagination a merry old dance...
:D

Is it 'blistered' ?
:)

If the speaker is more obscure than Bunnidir, I guess that rules out the infamous Tubdir :D

[Valandil]

It's been too long, but is this from the UT account of the Druadin? Or maybe early life of Turin??? Getting warm at all?

[Earniel]

Ding! Ding!

'blistered' is indeed the last remaining word.

Clearly you three need to re-read your copy of UT ;) but Val has found where the quote is from.

Now, I reckon the name of the speaker is asking too much, so what do we do? Let Val have the next quote since he identified the story? or should I ask for something more, like what the character is or what he did in the story?

[Valandil]

If you have to give us the speaker, then I think Butterbeer gets the next quote, since he solved the last part. My working toward the speaker isn't really a solve. Just a compass direction. :)

BB - good job coming up with 'blistered'!

[Earniel]

Well, BB, would you like the next quote? :)

Or am I'm going to have to make you lot sweat to squeeze more of the speaker out of you? :evil:

[Butterbeer]

Sweat and squeeze :)
Set some clues to speaker?

Besides I'm away all week and have no books with me :D

[Earniel]

Mkay. The speaker's name is written like a woolen blanket without the F or like being horrified or shocked without the ST but with an N.

[Butterbeer]

Er...QuiltDir???? :D
Erm.. Or maybe angDir?????

No idea!

[Valandil]

Mkay. The speaker's name is written like a woolen blanket without the F or like being horrified or shocked without the ST but with an N.

Leece?

Nartled?

:D

Whew... I better think of some more!

[Earniel]

Tsssk.

Nope. (I know you were expecting that answer. :p)

I'll give you the start letter of the name: A

[Valandil]

I think we're just not coming up with the name of the speaker. Is it time we surrender, and let BB post the next?

[Earniel]

I'm fine with either. You can take the next quote to if you feel so inclined, you found where the quote is from.

[Valandil]

Better if Butterbeer does it. But I don't know if he has logged on in awhile. I will try to post one this evening, if he hasn't come and done it.

[Valandil]

"T_u_/i_d_e_/./B_t/_/d_/n_t/_o_b_/y_u/,
/_o_/t_e/_e_d/_h_c_/m_/h_a_t/_o_l_/d_/.
/Y_t/_/a_/n_t/_r_e/_o/_o/_l_/a_/I/_o_l_/.
/I_/i_/a_a_n_t/_u_/l_w/_o/_e_/s_r_n_e_s/_a_d_r/_t/_i_l/_n/_u_/l_n_/,
/u_t_l/_h_/k_n_/h_m_e_f/_h_l_/g_v_/t_e_/l_a_e/,
/_n_/m_r_/s_r_c_/i_/t_e/_o_m_n_/i_/t_e_e/_a_s/_f/_e_i_/.
/I/_a_e/_e_g_d/_o_/t_/c_m_/b_c_/w_l_i_g_y/_i_h/_e/,/_n_/y_u/_i_l/_o_/.
/L_t_/a_/I/_o/_e_i_/a/_a_t_e/_f/_n_/h_n_r_d/_g_i_s_/t_r_e."

[Varnafindë]

True indeed. But I do not doubt you,

[Valandil]

All correct on the first line. I think the words of this one will go together pretty easily. :)

[Varnafindë]

nor the deed which my heart would do.

[Valandil]

Always line-by-line with you, isn't it Varna. :D

Still - one more line solved. :)

[Butterbeer]

and rather like the Dwarves arriving at merry intervals to Beorn's House... another line appears... :D

BB bows and makes apologies for not being around for a while..
BB at your service...


'Yet i am not free to do all as i would'

^^ and ain't that the truth! Sorry life been busy.

[Valandil]

Third line all correct too! :)

This one is a decent length, but turns out to be too easy, I think.

[Varnafindë]

When it's a text I don't recognize, and I can manage most of a line, I will indeed do the text line-by-line ... :p
Today will be a little different, though, as I first saw what the second line would be, and that then helped me to work out the first line. And to guess at the third.

/It/is/against/our/law/to/let/strangers/wander/at/will/in/our/land/,
/until/the/king/himself/shall/give/them/leave/,
/and/more/strict/is/the/_o_m_n_/if/these/pass/of/_e_i_/.

[Valandil]

"if" and "pass" not correct in last line - otherwise, all correct. :)

[Earniel]

"True indeed. But I do not doubt you,
nor the deed which my heart would do.
Yet I am not free to do all as I would.
It is against our law to let strangers wander at will in our land,
until the king himself shall give them leave,
and more strict is the command inthese days of/_e_i_/.
I have begged you to come back willingly with me, and you will not.
/L_t_/a_/I/_o/_e_i_/a/_a_t_e/_f/_n_/h_n_r_d/_g_i_s_/t_r_e."

Éomer is speaker if I place the quote right?

[Valandil]

All adds are correct - as is the speaker! :)

[Butterbeer]

Loath am i to begin a :confused: of one hundred against three

Blimey..knew i knew the quote, but you know i was thinking it was Haldir in Lothlorien ... though the King bit had me worried about that..

Eomer, of course!
cant get that other word though..thought it should be fight..
mind you 'loath' doesnt fight either??

Could have sworn 'loath' would have been right.

[Valandil]

"Loath" is not correct - your other attempts are all correct. That leaves us with three unsolved words. :)

[Varnafindë]

begin a battle

[Valandil]

"battle" is correct - two words left.

[Valandil]

If this is helpful: for one of the words, remember that English can be a funny language. We might have two very different words that sound alike, but are spelled similarly. Or - those two different words could even have somewhat similar meanings - for example, one is a verb, the other an adjective. And yet... different spellings. :)

[Varnafindë]

"Loath" cannot be correct for /L_t_/, as it has too many letters - but could we take out the superfluous a and use "Loth"?

[Valandil]

Yes, "Loth" is correct, which is an adjective. "Loath" is a verb. Meanings somewhat similar.

[Varnafindë]

these days of /_e_i_/.

The first word I manage to find with this combination is 'begin', which doesn't fit the context at all.
But this is the only word missing now, isn't it? I like to see it on top of the page.

[Valandil]

these days of /_e_i_/.

The first word I manage to find with this combination is 'begin', which doesn't fit the context at all.
But this is the only word missing now, isn't it? I like to see it on top of the page.
Yes, that's the only word we need.

[Butterbeer]

Im absolutely stumped on that last word!!

[Varnafindë]

Just in case it might help to have the whole line:
"and more strict is the command in these days of /_e_i_/."

I still don't know what the word is, though (brexit would be too long :p), but I'm still thinking it over and will come back from time to time and see whether I can work out something.

[Valandil]

Trying to figure out a hint that won't totally give it away. :)

[Valandil]

I wonder if - as Earniel gave up the last one without us guessing the speaker - if I should just give the last word, and let Varna do the next quote. Since she got the next-to-last word. What do you Quote Game players think?

And I realized too... we never got that speaker from Earniel. Who was it??? :D:p

[Valandil]

*chirp-chirp* say the Cricketts

[Earniel]

Well, there were a lot of crickets where I was last month, a lot more than internet connections... :D

Lemme dig out my clues I gave for the name of the speaker of my last quote:
The speaker's name is written like a woolen blanket without the F or like being horrified or shocked without the ST but with an N.
Afghan --> Afghan --> Aghan
or
Aghast --> aghast+n --> Aghan

Let Varna have a next quote is she wants, the last word eludes me too.

[Valandil]

I would NEVER have gotten"Aghan", even with your clues!:p

My word was "peril"

Varna - you're up!

Earniel - welcome back! :)

[Varnafindë]

I'll post a quote tomorrow :)

[Varnafindë]

Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow, ...

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/56964

[Earniel]

Eh, we're not going anywhere. :p

[Midge]

Whew. Earn, I read that and thought you meant, this thread isn't going anywhere and is dead now. I pancaked. *Panicked.

[Earniel]

Well, it might take a little more than me to kill off the quote thread. This thing is rather robust, it keeps coming back. :p

[Varnafindë]

This thing is rather robust, it keeps coming back. :p

So am I.

"S_m_o_e/_u_t/_e_/t_e_e/_n_/w_r_/t_e/_o_s_/b_f_r_/y_u/_r_i_e/./
_e_l/,/_e_/y_u/_a_e_/-/t_e/_a_/a_t_r/_o_o_r_w/,/_f/_o_/d_n/’/_/
g_/t_/s_e_p/_n/_h_/w_y/!"

[Valandil]

"Someone /_u_t/_e_/ there and were the /_o_s_/ before you arrive.
Well, yet you /_a_e_/-/t_e/_a_/ after /_o_o_r_w/, if you don't
go to sleep on the way!"

[Butterbeer]

Think val's got a few wrong there?


"Someone/must/get/there/and/warm/the/house/before/you/arrive/./
well/,/see/you/later/-/the/day/after/tomorrow/,/if/you/don/’/t/
go/to/sleep/on/the/way/!"

erm ... Merry?

[Varnafindë]

Val did get some wrong, and Butterbeer corrected them all - and all his additions were correct, too.
Including Merry as the speaker.

Good job, Butterbeer - you're next! :)

[Butterbeer]

Thanks :)

_s_/ n_t/ _f / _e /_h_r_ /h_/ d_t_ /d_e_l/ – /_o /_a_y/ _o_e_/ t_e_e/ _i_/.
O_/ t_e /_h_t_/ s_o_e_/ a_d/ _h_/ d_r_/ s_o_e_/ u_d_r/ _h_ /_t_r_y/ _k_

[Valandil]

Ask not of me where he doth dwell - /_o / many / _o_e_/ there / _i_/.
O_/ t_e /_h_t_/ shores and the dark shores under the starry sky.

Not sounding familiar at all... but maybe I've got some words wrong again.

[Butterbeer]

Lol, i couldn't remember myself..had to check

Yes you are right Val ...
you got one wrong :D... it's not 'starry'

Other than that though- all good :)
Great start.

Its a very well known speaker - no one obscure this time ;)

[Valandil]

No need to put corrections in spoiler quotes. :)

Ask not of me where he doth dwell - So many homes there lie.
On the white shores and the dark shores under the /_t_r_y/ sky.

???

[Butterbeer]

Was just a bit of light-hearted humour with the spoiler Val :)

All good, apart from 'homes' which is incorrect.

[Earniel]

starry?

[Butterbeer]

Sorry, not starry.

Ask not of me where he doth dwell - So many _o_e_ there lie.
On the white shores and the dark shores under the /_t_r_y/ sky.

[Valandil]

'hopes' and 'stormy'?

Still have no clue about speaker or context.:confused:

[Butterbeer]

'stormy' is correct! :)

('hopes' isn't though)

i suspect 'stormy' might also give a slight steer to the final word missing... (hopefully!)

As to the speaker, not an obscure speaker at all, and...as a hint, this exact passage might not have made the films but certainly a portion of this scene in the book did! (if i recall correctly...erm think it did anyway)

Hope that helps! :)

---------
Ask not of me where he doth dwell - So many _o_e_ there lie.
On the white shores and the dark shores under the stormy sky.

--------

One word and speaker only now...
Goodluck.

[Valandil]

bones?

I better start guessing speakers:

Galadriel?

[Butterbeer]

Bones is correct!
Not Galadriel though.
sorry for delay replying.

[Valandil]

Aragorn?

No problem on the delay. Days gone by, when several people played and quite intensely - we'd go ahead and move the game along ourselves. :p But it's so slow now, with so few of us, this is a fine pace. :)

[Butterbeer]

Closer :)
Not Aragorn, but he was there when it was spoken !

[Valandil]

Sam?

[Butterbeer]

Not Sam, although the speaker certainly travelled for some time with Sam (and more so with Aragorn). At time of speaking Sam wasn't there, but as a further clue... Sam likely had wet britches about this time :D

[Valandil]

Oh - is it Legolas? Maybe when he recounts the story of Amroth and Nimrodel?

[Varnafindë]

*lurks*
*no comments on the game*

[Butterbeer]

It IS Legolas! :):):)

Well done Val! :D

Your go :thumb:

It wasn't in Lothlorien however.
Its part of Legolas's lament for Boromir, when they send him over Rauros replete with cloven horn, shield and the swords of his enemies.

[Midge]

Darn it! Completely missed it...

[Valandil]

Wow - have totally forgotten about posting a quote. Will try to get one up soon. Especially if folks still want to play.

[Earniel]

Us not wanting to play? Perish the thought. :D

[Varnafindë]

Even I want to play.


...




... when I'm around ... :o

[Valandil]

After much delay, here we go:

"T_e_/m_s_/I/_e_v_/m_/o_n/_e_p_e/,/_a_/o_/G_n_o_/?
/A_d/_o_l_/y_u/_a_e/_o_r/_r_u_/f_l_/s_y/_f/_o_/:
/'/T_e_e/_o_s/_/l_r_/w_o/_a_e_/a/_i_d/_h_e_d_a_d_n/_f/_h_/N_r_h/!
/_a_/t_e_e/_o/_o_a_/o_/t_e/_a_e/_f/_u_e_o_/t_/c_o_s_/?/'/"

[Varnafindë]

Then must I leave my own people, man of Gondor?
And would you have your /_r_u_/f_l_/ say of you:
'There goes a lord who tamed a wild shieldmaiden of the North!

When I had done the first line, I recognized Eowyn as the speaker - and then most of the next two lines was fairly easy. I'll leave the last line alone for now ...

[Valandil]

All good so far - and Eowyn is indeed the speaker. :)

[Calandil]

"Then must I leave my own people, man of Gondor?
And would you have your proud folk say of you:
'There goes a lord who tamed a wild shieldmaiden of the North!
Was there no woman of the race of Númenor to choose?'"

[Valandil]

That's correct, Calandil! And welcome to the Quote Game! :)

What we do is - whoever solves the last portion of a quote posts the next one. You can see the first post in this thread for instructions on posting it. So... find a quote you like, from the options listed, and post away! :)

[Calandil]

Y_t/_f/_t/_t_n_s/_u_/a/_i_t_e/_h_l_/,/
t_e_/o_t/_f/_o_r/_o_s_/s_a_l/_o_e/_h_/h_p_/o_/E_v_s/_n_/M_n/./
T_i_/I/_a_/t_/y_u/,/_o_d/,/_i_h/_h_/e_e_/o_/d_a_h/:/
_h_u_h/_e/_a_t/_e_e/_o_e_e_/,
a_d/_/s_a_l/_o_/l_o_/o_/y_u_/w_i_e/_a_l_/a_a_n/,/
f_o_/y_u/_n_/f_o_/m_/a/_e_/s_a_/s_a_l/_r_s_/./
F_r_w_l_/!/

[Valandil]

"Yet if it stands but a little while,
then out of your /_o_s_/ shall come the hope of Elves and Men.
This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death:
though he /_a_t/_e_e/_o_e_e_/,
and I shall /_o_/l_o_/o_/y_u_/w_i_e/_a_l_/a_a_n/,
from you and from me a new /s_a_/ shall arise.
Farewell!"

[Varnafindë]

/_a_t/ here forever,
and I shall not look on your white walls again,

a new star

[Valandil]

Varna - I added your suggestions and changed a "he" to "we" (bolded).

"Yet if it stands but a little while,
then out of your /_o_s_/ shall come the hope of Elves and Men.
This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death:
though we /_a_t/ here forever,
and I shall not look on your white walls again,
from you and from me a new star shall arise.
Farewell!"

I'm getting to confuse my First Age characters now, but was this Huor?

[Calandil]

All your guesses are correct, including the speaker.

[Varnafindë]

though we part here forever

[Valandil]

House?

[Calandil]

All your guesses are correct. It is now Valandil's turn to post a quote.

[Valandil]

Varna - I've posted a few lately. Would you like to post?

[Varnafindë]

".../l_a_/f_o_/t_e/_o_t_f_r_h_n_/i_/I_e_g_r_/./T_e/_o_e/_/
c_n_i_e_/i_/,/t_e/_o_e/_u_i_u_/I/_i_d/_t/./_/h_v_/n_v_r/
_e_n/_n/_s_n_a_d/,/_u_/I/_a_e/_o_r_e_e_/i_/t_i_/l_n_/,/
a_d/_/k_o_/w_l_/t_e/_m_t_/c_u_t_i_s/_h_t/_i_/b_t_e_n/
_o_a_/a_d/_h_/S_i_e/./_e_t_e_/g_o_s/_o_/f_l_/h_v_/p_s_e_/
t_a_/w_y/_o_/m_n_/a/_o_g/_e_r/,/_o_/o_e_l_/./S_r_m_n/_a_/
s_c_e_/d_a_i_g_/w_t_/s_m_o_e/_n/_h_/S_i_e/,/_/g_e_s/."

[Earniel]

... Saruman had secret dealings with someone in the Shire, I guess.

[Varnafindë]

Correct :)

[Valandil]

".../leaf from the southfarthing in Isengard. The more I
consider it, the more curious I find it. I have never
been in Isengard, But I have /_o_r_e_e_/ in this land,
and I know well the /_m_t_/c_u_t_i_s/ that lie between
Rohan and the Shire. /_e_t_e_/g_o_s/_o_/f_l_/ have passed
that way for many a long year, /_o_/o_e_l_/. Saruman had
secret dealings with someone in the Shire, I guess."

[Varnafindë]

And still all correct :)

[Valandil]

Thank you!

"...leaf from the southfarthing in Isengard. The more I
consider it, the more curious I find it. I have never
been in Isengard, But I have journeyed in this land,
and I know well the /_m_t_/c_u_t_i_s/ that lie between
Rohan and the Shire. /_e_t_e_/g_o_s/_o_/f_l_/ have passed
that way for many a long year, not openly. Saruman had
secret dealings with someone in the Shire, I guess."

Is it Aragorn who says this?

[Varnafindë]

Correct additions - and Aragorn is indeed the one who says it.

[Valandil]

I'm a bit baffled. Might come up with a guess for two of the remaining six words, but not the other four.

Varna - are all the letters and spaces in the unsolved words correct?

Typos happen to me sometimes, which is a pain. But even when I think somebody else made one, it's more likely that I just couldn't get the word! :D

[Earniel]

"...leaf from the southfarthing in Isengard. The more I
consider it, the more curious I find it. I have never
been in Isengard, But I have journeyed in this land,
and I know well the /_m_t_/countries that lie between
Rohan and the Shire. /_e_t_e_/goods/_o_/f_l_/ have passed
that way for many a long year, not openly. Saruman had
secret dealings with someone in the Shire, I guess."

[Varnafindë]

*doublechecks the spelling*
*triplechecks the spelling*

Yes, all correct for me as well :D

If you decide you need a hint, I could tell you how many vowels and consonants per word. But only if you want them.

[Varnafindë]

Eärniel - both words are correct :)

[Earniel]

I often have the urge to ask for a spell-check when I'm stumped by a word, and nearly always it turns out to be some synonym I did not consider. :cool: And I always go 'duh' afterwards because it will seem obvious then. Like with the rest of this phrase which now seems so obvious I wonder why it took me so long to see it.
'
...Neither goods nor folk..."

Last word, though, still eludes me for now at least. (This is not on purpose! Honest)

[Varnafindë]

The obvious phrase is obviously correct :D

[Butterbeer]

I got 'Neither goods nor'..but couldn't get 'folk'... lol definitley a head-slap moment when you see it!

but "_m_t_" has me stumped...

[Earniel]

*epiphany*

Oh, duh.

...know well the empty countries that lie between...

I'm on fire today. :D

Of course, if it's wrong I'm going to be so, so very crushed... :p

[Varnafindë]

No need to be crushed, Eärniel :cool:

Your turn :thumb:

[Valandil]

Good one! My mind kept wanting to go to "remote" on what ended up as "empty" - but obviously it was missing the "r". :)

[Earniel]

Yeah, I got stuck on 'remote' exactly the same way until inspiration struck.

"G_o_/a_d/_l_/h_v_/n_t/_h_n_e_/s_n_e/_e_t_r_e_r/;/_o_/a_e/_h_y/_n_/t_i_g/ _m_n_/E_v_s/_n_/D_a_v_s/_n_/a_o_h_r/_m_n_/M_n/./_t/_s/_/m_n'_s/_a_t/_o _i_c_r_/t_e_/,/a_/m_c_/i_/t_e/_o_d_n/_o_d/_s/_n/_i_/o_n/_o_s_/."

[Valandil]

"Good and evil have not changed since yesteryear; how are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a /m_n'_s/_a_t/_o _i_c_r_/t_e_/, as much in the /_o_d_n/_o_d/_s/_n/_i_/ own /_o_s_/."

[Varnafindë]

nor are they

It is a /m_n'_s/_a_t/to discard/them/, as much in the /_o_d_n/_o_d/as/in/his/ own /house/."

[Valandil]

"Good and evil have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a /m_n'_s/_a_t/ to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."

I think you're right about "nor", so I made that change. But I think "discern" is correct, not "discard".

This sounds like an Aragorn quote.

[Earniel]

So far, what you have in your last post is correct, Val. Two words left.

Speaker is correct as well.

[Valandil]

Pretty sure of "part"

Is the other "man's" - with an accidental extra space? Otherwise, I'll have to think a lot harder. :confused:

[Earniel]

Ack! You're right, the two missing words are 'man's part'. It appears I didn't delete the 's'. Gah, I checked it twice and missed it twice! You had one job, Eärniel!

*hangs head in shame* :o

Your turn, then, Val.

[Varnafindë]

But I think "discern" is correct, not "discard".

That was one of those cases where I didn't really think my suggestion was correct either. "Discard" didn't make sense in the context. But at least we could get that confirmed.

Good that you got both that and the rest correct! :thumb:

[Valandil]

Thanks. Had a full weekend, and will try to post soon. Gotta start looking for one to put up. :)

[Valandil]

"B_y_n_/t_e/_a_c_e_/o_/D_r_a_h/_y/_e_r_/u_g_s/_e/;
/_/l_n_/r_t_e_/f_r/_s_a_l_/u_o_/t_e/_n_m_/,
/t_a_/f_r/_e_e_s_/o_/t_e/_o_d_r_a_d_."

[Calandil]

Beyond the marches of Doriath my heart urges me;
I long rather for assault upon the Enemy,
than for/_e_e_s_/on the/_o_d_r_a_d_.

Is the speaker Túrin?

[Valandil]

Good job Calandil! All correct so far, including speaker. :)

[Varnafindë]

This is the second time I look at those last two words - and I still can't make sense of them.
I might try again next week ...

[Valandil]

Woooo-hooooo... Wake up, quoters! :p

[Earniel]

I'm with Varna, I currently can't make sense of the last words.

[Valandil]

Hmmm... wonder what hints I could give. I have re-checked the letters, and I typed one wrong in the first word. :o I also just noticed I accepted one incorrect, small word. I will correct those below. I think I checked it on my phone, and just didn't notice. Here's that:

Beyond the marches of Doriath my heart urges me;
I long rather for assault upon the Enemy,
than for/_e_e_c_/of the/_o_d_r_a_d_.

By way of actual hint - the last word is a compound word. Helpful? And - the letter I had typed wrong makes the same sound as the correct one.

[Valandil]

So... what kind of hint are we looking for?

[Varnafindë]

Perhaps we're desperate enough now to need some vague hints of a synonym? To one of the compound parts, perhaps? Or would that be too much, Eärniel?

[Valandil]

Maybe if I just give the first letter of each word for now:

Beyond the marches of Doriath my heart urges me;
I long rather for assault upon the Enemy,
than for/de_e_c_/ of the /bo_d_r_a_d_.

If that doesn't do it, I could add more.

[Earniel]

Well, I'm fine with anything that helps, really.

Is the last word 'borderlands'?

[Valandil]

Yes, it is! And welcome back! :)

[Varnafindë]

decency? I'm not sure it makes sense, but it's worth trying ...

[Valandil]

Not 'decency' - but the 'n' is correct! :)

[Varnafindë]

defence !!! :)

[Valandil]

That's it! Your turn! :)

[Varnafindë]

"I/_a_/a_/n_g_t/_y/_h_/w_t_r_/o_/A_d_i_/,/i_/t_e/_r_y/_a_k/
_n_e_/t_e/_o_n_/p_l_/m_o_/,/w_t_h_n_/t_e/_v_r/-/_o_i_g/_t_e_m/;/
_n_/t_e/_a_/r_e_s/_e_e/_u_t_i_g/./_o/_o/_e/_v_r/_a_c_/t_e/_h_r_s/
_i_h/_s_i_i_t_/,/w_i_h/_u_/e_e_i_s/_o_/p_r_l_/h_l_/,/a_d/_s_u_/
f_o_/i_/t_/h_r_y/_u_/l_n_s/./_u_/t_a_/n_g_t/_l_/t_e/_o_l_/s_e_t/
_t/_h_/m_d_i_h_/h_u_/."

[Valandil]

"I sat at night by the waters of Anduin, in the gray dark
under the /_o_n_/ pale moon, watching the ever-_o_i_g/ stream;
and the /_a_/r_e_s/_e_e/_u_t_i_g/./_o/_o/_e/_v_r/_a_c_/t_e/_h_r_s/
_i_h/_s_i_i_t_/,/w_i_h/_u_/e_e_i_s/_o_/p_r_l_/h_l_/,/a_d/_s_u_/
f_o_/i_/t_/h_r_y/_u_/l_n_s/. But that night all the /_o_l_/s_e_t/
at the midnight hour."

Faramir?

[Varnafindë]

gray is wrong - sort of ...
Everything else is correct, and Faramir is the speaker :)

[Valandil]

OK - I wondered - and I always forget which spelling is English vs American.

"I sat at night by the waters of Anduin, in the grey dark
under the /_o_n_/ pale moon, watching the ever-_o_i_g/ stream;
and the /_a_/ reeds were /_u_t_i_g/. So do we ever /_a_c_/t_e/_h_r_s/
_i_h/_s_i_i_t_/,/w_i_h/_u_/e_e_i_s/_o_/p_r_l_/h_l_/,/a_d/_s_u_/
f_o_/i_/t_/h_r_y/_u_/l_n_s/. But that night all the world /s_e_t/
at the midnight hour."

Only time to try a little now - bolded. Got to make room on the computer for my middle one.

[Valandil]

Trying just a little more...

"I sat at night by the waters of Anduin, in the grey dark
under the /_o_n_/ pale moon, watching the ever-moving stream;
and the /_a_/ reeds were /_u_t_i_g/. So do we ever /_a_c_/t_e/_h_r_s/
_i_h/_s_i_i_t_/,/w_i_h/_u_/e_e_i_s/_o_/p_r_l_/h_l_/,/a_d/_s_u_/
f_o_/i_/t_/h_r_y/_u_/l_n_s/. But that night all the world slept
at the midnight hour."

[Varnafindë]

grey it is - so that's probably the British spelling ...

Everything else is correct as well :)

[Valandil]

"I sat at night by the waters of Anduin, in the grey dark
under the /_o_n_/ pale moon, watching the ever-moving stream;
and the /_a_/ reeds were /_u_t_i_g/. So do we ever watch the shores
with /_s_i_i_t_/, which our enemies now partly hold, and issue
from it to harry our lands. But that night all the world slept
at the midnight hour."

[Varnafindë]

with in the fourth line is wrong, everything else is correct.
In fact, only five words left!

[Earniel]

"I sat at night by the waters of Anduin, in the grey dark
under the /_o_n_/ pale moon, watching the ever-moving stream;
and the sad reeds were rustling. So do we ever watch the shores
_i_h /_s_i_i_t_/, which our enemies now partly hold, and issue
from it to harry our lands. But that night all the world slept
at the midnight hour."

[Valandil]

ah!... "nigh Osgiliath"!

[Valandil]

Having a hard time coming up with that last word, "/_o_n_/ pale moon"...???

[Valandil]

Goodness... 'round'? Does that do it, or are we off with any of the words?

[Varnafindë]

"sad reeds were rustling" and "nigh Osgiliath" are correct :)

"the /_o_n_/ pale moon" is not round, though.

[Valandil]

So we're here on the quote, I think?

"I sat at night by the waters of Anduin, in the grey dark
under the /_o_n_/ pale moon, watching the ever-moving stream;
and the sad reeds were rustling. So do we ever watch the shores
nigh Osgiliath, which our enemies now partly hold, and issue
from it to harry our lands. But that night all the world slept
at the midnight hour."

[Midge]

Round?

And HI GUYS!!! *quote game excitement*

Edit: clearly I got too excited to join the party...sound?

[Midge]

Maybe "going"?

[Varnafindë]

So we're here on the quote, I think?

We are indeed.

But none of the suggestions so far are correct.

Good to see you, though, Midge! :)

[Midge]

It's so hard to find the right word when the main possibilities in my head are "round" and "moony"...

[Valandil]

Time to start making up words?

* boing?
* downd?
* rolne?
* kornu?

[Varnafindë]

Time for a hint, rather ...
"the /_o_n_/ pale moon" is not round, though.
It actually isn't. ;)

[Valandil]

Time for a hint, rather ...

It actually isn't. ;)

So the word denotes something of the moon's shape, or phase.

But it's not full (round), gibbous, half, quarter, crescent, waxing, waning, new...

Trying to think of other words used for those, relative to the moon.

And I know when we finally learn it, it's going to be one of those, "Of COURSE that's what it is!!!" things. :p

[Varnafindë]

You've used more than one synonym for the correct answer now.

[Varnafindë]

One of the three missing letters has not been suggested in any of your guesses.
Both of the others have been suggested, but not in the same guess.

[Earniel]

Eh, I'm stumped.

[Varnafindë]

So the word denotes something of the moon's shape, or phase.

But it's not full (round), gibbous, half, quarter, crescent, waxing, waning, new...

Trying to think of other words used for those, relative to the moon.

And I know when we finally learn it, it's going to be one of those, "Of COURSE that's what it is!!!" things. :p

I don't know if it's quite as "Of COURSE" as all that, but it might be a "why didn't we think of that".
It's more to do with its phase than its shape (despite the obvious connection between them).

[Varnafindë]

Would you like another hint?
I think I've got one that would help a lot, and still not give it away without having to think about it.

[Valandil]

Sure, I'll take it.

[Varnafindë]

It's more to do with its phase than its shape (despite the obvious connection between them).

Expressed by its age.

[Valandil]

"I sat at night by the waters of Anduin, in the grey dark
under the young pale moon, watching the ever-moving stream;
and the sad reeds were rustling. So do we ever watch the shores
nigh Osgiliath, which our enemies now partly hold, and issue
from it to harry our lands. But that night all the world slept
at the midnight hour."

Young?

I don't think I'd have ever gotten that without the last hint. :p

[Varnafindë]

I was afraid that you might not ;)
You were all thinking about a standard consonant for the first letter, then getting the whole sounding of the word completely wrong. "Y" is a funny letter - sort of a vowel, often functioning as a vowel, but in some words functioning more like a consonant ...
(When I learned phonetics, they named it a "half-vowel".)

But with that hint, the quote is finally solved!

You're next :)

[Valandil]

It wasn't so much the letters. Once I knew we were describing "moon" - I locked into more familiar terms for it.

OK - will try to post something before too long.

[Earniel]

Well done! Never would have guessed it, not even with the hints.

[Valandil]

Doing it in English helps me a lot, I think. :)

I've been slow with the next post. Hopefully this weekend. Not as filled up as the last two were.

[Earniel]

*looks left, looks right*

*pokes Val*

*runs away giggling*

[Valandil]

LA-ZY!

At Yellowstone now. :) Will redouble my efforts when I get home.

[Valandil]

"T_e/_a_s/_r_/d_r_/,/a_d/_h_r_/i_/n_/h_p_/f_r/_e_/,
/f_r/_h_/F_i_h_u_/a_e/_e_/./T_e_e_o_e/_/a_/m_n_e_/t_/t_y
/_h_t/_o_n_e_/w_i_h/_u_/f_r_f_t_e_/E_r_n_i_/t_o_/o_/o_d/,
/_o/_a_l/_n_o/_h_/W_s_/,/b_/t_e_e/_a_/o_/n_/,
/a_d/_o/_p_a_/t_/t_e/_a_a_/,/e_e_/t_/M_n_e/_i_s_l_/,
/i_/m_y/_e/,/a_d/_e_e_c_/h_s/_i_/e_e/_l_/i_/l_s_."

Sorry so slow about this. Hope there's still players around. :)

[Varnafindë]

and there is no hope for her

[Valandil]

"her" not correct - the rest is good. :)

[Varnafindë]

The/_a_s/are/d_r_/,/and there is no hope for/men/,
/for/the/F_i_h_u_/are/_e_/./Therefore/I/am/minded/to/try
/that/_o_n_e_/which/our/forefather/Earendil/took/of/old/,
/to/call/unto/the/West/,/be/there/yay/or/no/,
/and/to/_p_a_/to/the/Valar/,/even/to/Manwe/himself/,
/if/may/be/,/and/beseech/his/aid/ere/all/is/lost.

It's possible that I have solved most of the quote now - and I still have no idea who said it or in what context.

Or maybe I can work out something after all?

Some descendant of Earendil - but not Elrond or Aragorn.
Perhaps someone in Numenor?
Didn't Elendil's father, Amandil, try to go on a journey before they left Numenor?
Could he have said this?

[Valandil]

Great job, Varna! Most words are correct - three wrong words in the fourth line: 'call' / 'unto' / 'yay'

Yes - Amandil was the speaker! :)

[Varnafindë]

/to/sail/into/the/West/,/be/there/way/or/no/,

Hmmm - interesting that I managed to work out logically who the speaker could have been :)

[Valandil]

Yes. :)

Both "sail" and "into" are correct, but "way" is not.

[Varnafindë]

The/days/are/dark/,and there is no hope for men,
for the/F_i_h_u_/are/men/. Therefore I am minded to try
that/_o_n_e_/which our forefather Earendil took of old,
to sail into the West, be there/_a_/or no,
and to/_p_a_/to the Valar, even to Manwe himself,
if may be, and beseech his aid ere all is lost.

Missing now: at least 4 words, plus those words that I haven't solved correctly above.

[Valandil]

Your second use of "men" is not correct. I think the rest is good, but have to get home and confirm with my book later.

[Valandil]

Confirmed - that was your only other incorrect solve. So here's an update of what we've got:

"The days are dark,and there is no hope for men,
for the /F_i_h_u_/ are /_e_/. Therefore I am minded to try
that /_o_n_e_/ which our forefather Earendil took of old,
to sail into the West, be there /_a_/ or no,
and to /_p_a_/ to the Valar, even to Manwe himself,
if may be, and beseech his aid ere all is lost."

~ Amandil

[Varnafindë]

gap or no?
speak to the Valar?

[Valandil]

"gap" is not correct, "speak" IS correct! :)

[Varnafindë]

"The days are dark,and there is no hope for men,
for the /F_i_h_u_/ are /_e_/. Therefore I am minded to try
that /_o_n_e_/ which our forefather Earendil took of old,
to sail into the West, be there /_a_/ or no,
and to speak to the Valar, even to Manwe himself,
if may be, and beseech his aid ere all is lost."

Line 2: set?

[Valandil]

Sorry - 'set' is not correct.

[Valandil]

Should I hint?

[Varnafindë]

I think a hint would be good :)

[Valandil]

OK - we have a TV game show in the US called "Jeopardy" where contestants select letters which are revealed. Rather than have you pick and go back-and-forth, I'll give you "f" and "n":

"The days are dark,and there is no hope for men,
for the /F_i_hfu_/ are fe_/. Therefore I am minded to try
that /_o_n_e_/ which our forefather Earendil took of old,
to sail into the West, be there /_an or no,
and to speak to the Valar, even to Manwe himself,
if may be, and beseech his aid ere all is lost."

[Varnafindë]

2) the Faithful are few. (This really helped :) )
4) man

[Valandil]

First two solves correct.

'man' is not correct.

[Varnafindë]

Should of course be ban.

[Valandil]

Correct! One word left.

Third letter "u"

[Valandil]

BTW - after this solve, do we keep playing? Or are you ready for a break?

Or - are others out there eager to jump back into the game?

[Earniel]

I'm still here but I have been away for a while.

I'm fine with continuing but slowly. Anything like a break is very likely to become permanent and that would be a shame.

[Varnafindë]

councel?

I feel that I have had a break for a while recently, and that I'm back now, ready for playing again.
Slowly is good, though - not worrying about having to rush things.

[Valandil]

The spelling is "counsel" for what someone gives, or demonstrates, in this case. Obviously, I'll take it, especially from a non-native English speaker. BTW, "council" is the body of people. Many mix those up. :)

Your turn.

[Varnafindë]

A council can give counsel, then?
I wasn't sure about the spelling, whether it would be with a c or an s, so I was prepared to submit the other as my next guess if you had just not accepted the word - I wouldn't have offered two new letters there. You saved us time by taking it, though. :)

Here goes.

/_h_/D_a_o_/S_u_o_/m_g_t/_s_/w_t_/t_r_i_l_/e_f_c_/./
O_t_n/_/s_i_/t_/m_s_l_/:/"/I/_u_t/_i_d/_o_e/_e_n_/
o_/d_a_i_g/_i_h/_m_u_/./B_t/_/d_r_c_/s_r_k_/a_a_n_t/
_o_/G_l_u_/i_/n_e_e_/s_i_l/_o_e/./_e/_u_t/_i_t_r_/
S_u_o_'s/_l_n_/./I/_u_t/_a_e/_h_/C_u_c_l/_e_/t_a_/./'/

[Valandil]

A council can give counsel, then?
I wasn't sure about the spelling, whether it would be with a c or an s, so I was prepared to submit the other as my next guess if you had just not accepted the word - I wouldn't have offered two new letters there. You saved us time by taking it, though. :)

Shortly after posting that, I was reminded of another definition of "counsel" - it CAN be a person (maybe people), but usually when referring to an attorney. For example, "special counsel"... English must be pretty confusing!

= = =

'The Dragon Sauron might use with terrible effect.
Often I said to myself: "I must find some /_e_n_/
of dealing with Smaug. But /_/d_r_c_/s_r_k_/a_a_n_t/
_o_/G_l_u_/i_/n_e_e_/s_i_l/_o_e/./_e/_u_t/_i_t_r_/
S_u_o_'s/_l_n_/./I/_u_t/_a_e/_h_/C_u_c_l/_e_/t_a_/./'

[Varnafindë]

English can be very confusing. I should look for some examples that I have collected - if only I knew where I had put my collections (probably one collection per example :p ).

And everything is correct in your quote so far :)
(adding it as we're on a new page)

'The Dragon Sauron might use with terrible effect.
Often I said to myself: "I must find some /_e_n_/
of dealing with Smaug. But /_/d_r_c_/s_r_k_/a_a_n_t/
_o_/G_l_u_/i_/n_e_e_/s_i_l/_o_e/./_e/_u_t/_i_t_r_/
S_u_o_'s/_l_n_/./I/_u_t/_a_e/_h_/C_u_c_l/_e_/t_a_/./'

[Valandil]

'The Dragon Sauron might use with terrible effect.
Often I said to myself: "I must find some means
of dealing with Smaug. But /_/d_r_c_/s_r_k_/a_a_n_t/
for Gollum is nearer still /_o_e/. He must /_i_t_r_/
Sauron's /_l_n_/. I must make the Council see that."'

[Earniel]

against?

[Varnafindë]

Valandil
Line 2: 'means' is correct.
Line 4: 'is', 'still' and 'must' are correct,
'for Gollum', 'nearer' and 'He' are wrong.
Line 5: Everything in this line is correct.

Eärniel
Line 3: 'against' is correct.

We now have:

The Dragon Sauron might use with terrible effect.
Often I said to myself: "I must find some means
of dealing with Smaug. But /_/d_r_c_/s_r_k_/ against
_o_/G_l_u_/ is /n_e_e_/ still /_o_e/./_e/ must /_i_t_r_/
Sauron's /_l_n_/. I must make the Council see that."'

[Valandil]

The Dragon Sauron might use with terrible effect.
Often I said to myself: "I must find some means
of dealing with Smaug. But a direct stroke against
Dol Goldur is needed still more. We must /_i_t_r_/
Sauron's /_l_n_/. I must make the Council see that."'

Oh - I didn't guess Gandalf as speaker yet. That's who I'm going with. :p

[Varnafindë]

Almost correct - only 'Goldur' isn't quite right.

And you have every reason to go with Gandalf as the speaker :)

[Valandil]

Guldur?
disturb?
plans?

[Varnafindë]

'Dol Guldur' it is.
And 'disturb Sauron's plans'.

Your turn again! :)

[Valandil]

Aw-right... finally getting a post up.

"O_e/_a_/!/B_t/_o_/b_f_r_/I/_u_t/;/_n_/l_t_r/,/_f/_n_/t_y/_o/_h_u_t/_e/
_o_a_d_/m_r_i_g_/./O_h_r/_h_n_s/_/h_v_/t_/d_/m_r_/u_g_n_/t_/m_/,
/f_r/_y/_i_d/_s/_e_t/_n/_h_m/./'/_o_d/_s/_h_/l_f_/o_/a/_a_i_e_'s/_i_e/'/;
/_n_/t_e/_a_i_e_/w_o/_s/_i_g_e/_f/_u_p_s_/a_d/_o_/t_e_/t_/t_e/_h_r_/
g_e_/f_r_h_r/,/_n_/l_a_n_/b_t_e_/h_w/_o/_e_l/_i_h/_h_/s_a."

[Varnafindë]

"One/day/!/But/not/before/I/must/;/and/later/,/if/any/try/to/thrust/me/
towards/mornings/./Other/things/I/have/to/do/more/urgent/to/me/,
/for/my/mind/is/best/on/them/./

There are things here that must be wrong, just because they don't make sense (to me) - but let this be my first guess ...

[Valandil]

Your only two wrong words are "mornings" and "best" - all else is correct. :)

[Varnafindë]

I did think that 'best' would be one of them. 'bent' instead?
And would 'mornings' instead be 'marriage'? LOL

Second attempt at the first part:

"One day! But not before I must; and later, if any try to thrust me towards /marriage/./ Other things I have to do more urgent to me, for my mind is /bent/ on them.

And first attempt (which doesn't make sense everywhere either) at the second part:

/'/Cold/is/the/life/of/a/mariner's/wife/'/;
/and/the/mariner/who/is/_i_g_e/if/_u_p_s_/and/not/then/to/the/_h_r_/
goes/further/,/and/learns/better/how/to/deal/with/the/sea."

[Valandil]

You're doing great, Varna! All correct except two wrong words in your next-to-last line. Neither "if" nor "then" is correct in that line.

:)

I don't know if I ever noticed until typing for this quote that the little ditty "Cold is the life..." actually rhymes! :D

[Varnafindë]

'of' and 'tied' instead of 'if' and 'then' will make more sense. But I still haven't worked out the missing words, although it should be easier if I
don't have them in the wrong context any more.

New version:
"One day! But not before I must; and later, if any try to thrust me
towards marriage. Other things I have to do more urgent to me,
for my mind is bent on them. 'Cold is the life of a mariner's wife';
and the mariner who is /_i_g_e/of/_u_p_s_/ and not /tied/ to the /_h_r_/
goes further, and learns better how to deal with the sea."


So what mariner are we talking about here? My first thought was Tuor, but there's no situation I can think of where he might say anything like this.

But there is a mariner in Numenor, a Prince, later to become King, who might express such sentiments. Would the speaker be Aldarion?

[Valandil]

Varna - yes, you're correct on all updates, including the speaker, Aldarion. :)

Just a few words left to go. Does the context help?

[Earniel]

Purpose? Shore?

[Valandil]

Both correct - leaving only one word!

(Earniel - did you do that on purpose? :p )

[Earniel]

I know you were going to say that! :p

But no, alas, the last words DOES escape me.

I thought to say as well in my previous post, but I seem to say that a lot in this game and the last word remains elusive an equal number of times that after a while even I don't believe myself anymore. :rolleyes:

Tell you what, though, whoever finds the last word and if he or she doesn't feel like posting a new quote, I'll do it. To make up for all those last elusive words.

[Varnafindë]

I was actually quite close to getting one of Eärniel's words.
From the context I thought, "Isn't there an English word for the strip of land which is close to the sea? Beach? But that doesn't have the right letters!"
Don't know how 'shore' could elude me there :D

Now, only 'who is /_i_g_e/ of purpose' left.

Eludes me too. :confused:

[Valandil]

Just ONE word!!! :)

[Varnafindë]

... thinking ... :glance:

[Earniel]

Nope, still stumped.

Perhaps a small hint is in order?

[Varnafindë]

Best to repeat the quote on a new page.

"One day! But not before I must; and later, if any try to thrust me
towards marriage. Other things I have to do more urgent to me,
for my mind is bent on them. 'Cold is the life of a mariner's wife';
and the mariner who is /_i_g_e/ of purpose and not tied to the shore
goes further, and learns better how to deal with the sea."


Yes, hint, please? :(

[Valandil]

The hints that come to mind seem too small to help or too big to keep it at all in doubt. Let's try this small one then. All missing letters are consonants.

[Valandil]

Maybe we'll go easier.

A stage in life.

[Varnafindë]

That about the consonants is a good checkpoint when guessing - but the stage in life hasn't helped me sufficienty yet. I'll keep thinking ...

[Valandil]

OK - third letter overall (second unsolved letter) is "n" :)

[Varnafindë]

"One day! But not before I must; and later, if any try to thrust me
towards marriage. Other things I have to do more urgent to me,
for my mind is bent on them. 'Cold is the life of a mariner's wife';
and the mariner who is /_ing_e/ of purpose and not tied to the shore
goes further, and learns better how to deal with the sea."


SINGLE???

[Valandil]

Yes, "single" - your turn! :)

[Varnafindë]

T_e_/a_w_y_/w_s_e_/t_/t_l_/t_/e_e_y_h_n_/,/t_e/_l_/E_v_s/_i_/./
B_t/_h_n/_h_/G_e_t/_a_k_e_s/_a_e/,/_n_/t_e_/p_s_e_/a_a_/o_e_/t_e/_e_/,/
o_/f_e_/i_t_/f_r/_a_l_y_/,/a_d/_i_/t_e_s_l_e_/,/a_d/_a_e/_o_g_/a_o_t/
_a_s/_h_t/_o_l_/n_v_r/_o_e/_g_i_/./N_v_r/_g_i_/./
_y_/,/A_e/,/_h_r_/w_s/_l_/o_e/_o_d/_n_e/_p_n/_/t_m_/:/f_o_/h_r_/t_/
_h_/M_u_t_i_s/_f/_u_e/,/_n_/t_i_/w_s/_u_t/_h_/E_s_/E_d/./

[Valandil]

They always wished to talk to everything, the old Elves did.
But when the Great /_a_k_e_s/ came,
and then passed away over the sea,
/o_/f_e_/i_t_/f_r/_a_l_y_/,/a_d/_i_/t_e_s_l_e_/,
/a_d/_a_e/_o_g_/a_o_t/_a_s/_h_t/_o_l_/n_v_r/_o_e/_g_i_/.
/N_v_r/_g_i_/./_y_/,/A_e/,
/_h_r_/w_s/_l_/o_e/_o_d/_n_e/_p_n/_/t_m_/:
from here to the Mountains of Lune,
and this was just the East End.

sounds like an entish sentiment... Treebeard?

[Varnafindë]

'when' and 'then' in line 2 and 3 are wrong, all else is good - and it is indeed an entish sentiment, expressed by Treebeard. :)

[Valandil]

"They always wished to talk to everything, the old Elves did.
But then the Great /_a_k_e_s/ came,
and they passed away over the sea,
or fled into far valleys, and hid themselves,
and came /_o_g_/ about /_a_s/ that /_o_l_/ never come again.
Never again. Aye, Aye,
there was all one wood once upon a time:
from here to the Mountains of Lune,
and this was just the East End."

[Varnafindë]

'came' in line 5 is wrong, all else is correct (including the corrections from your previous post).

Only two lines with words missing or wrong - not bad! :)

[Valandil]

"They always wished to talk to everything, the old Elves did.
But then the Great /_a_k_e_s/ came,
and they passed away over the sea,
or fled into far valleys, and hid themselves,
and made songs about days that would never come again.
Never again. Aye, Aye,
there was all one wood once upon a time:
from here to the Mountains of Lune,
and this was just the East End."

That last word is a toughie!

[Varnafindë]

Everything correct other than that tough last word. :)

[Valandil]

Ah... Great Darkness?

[Varnafindë]

Definitely the Great Darkness.

Your turn!

[Valandil]

"I_'s/_o_i_/,/R_s_/_o_t_n/.
/_t/_e_m_/s_e/_i_n'_/l_k_/m_/g_i_g/_b_o_d/_t/_l_/,
/p_o_/l_s_/;/b_t/_s/_/h_d_'t/_p_k_n/,/_h_/c_u_d_'t/_a_/s_/.
/A_d/_/d_d_'t/_p_a_/,/b_c_u_e/_/h_d/_/j_b/_o/_o/_i_s_/.
/B_t/_o_/I/_a_e/_p_k_n/,/_n_/s_e/_a_s/:/'/_e_l/,/_o_'v_/w_s_e_/a/_e_r/,
/_o/_h_/w_i_/l_n_e_/?/'/'/W_s_e_/?/'/I/_a_s/./'/_/w_u_d_'t/_a_l/_t/_h_t/./'
/_t_l_/I/_e_/w_a_/s_e/_e_n_/./I/_e_l/_o_n/_n/t_o/,/_s/_o_/m_g_t/_a_."

[Varnafindë]

I think this is the first time I've tried to do it all in one go - as soon as I recognized the text, I had great help from remembering what it was all about. :)

"It's/Rosie/,/Rose/Cotton/.
/It/seems/she/didn't/like/my/going/abroad/at/all/,
/poor/lass/;/but/as/I/hadn't/spoken/,/she/couldn't/say/so/.
/And/I/didn't/speak/,/because/I/had/a/job/to/do/first/.
/But/now/I/have/spoken/,/and/she/says/:/'/Well/,/you've/wasted/a/year/,
/so/why/wait/longer/?/'/'/Wasted/?/'/I/says/./'/I/wouldn't/call/it/that/./'
/Still/I/see/what/she/means/./I/feel/torn/in/two/,/as/you/might/say."

Speaker: Samwise Gamgee.