Candidate Open House

[Nurvingiel]

Here is an open house where all candidates (presidential and non-presidential alike) can make speeches, answer questions, and chat with their supporters. All Mooters are welcome to post and ask questions! It's an informal, friendly setting, with tea and scones provided by the Teacup Cafe. (Random plug :D)

Take a seat, help yourself to refreshments, and feel free to ask questions!

(By the way, sorry about the presidential debate thread thing, I'm moving all my posts here.)

[Nurvingiel]

[originally in the other thread]

Actually, I hope all Mooters post here, everyone should be allowed to ask questions of the candidates IMO.

Speaking of which, Hectorberlioz, Falagar, and I have restructured our campaign. Falagar and I have withdrawn, and fully support Hectorberlioz for President.

Our full team includes:

Hectorberlioz - President
Nurvingiel - Vice President
Falagar - Minister of Internal Affairs
Twista - Minister of Foreign Affairs
Artanis - Minister of Culture

If Hector is elected President, the other people listed will be appointed to those positions. Our platform will be complete shortly, and our signatures will be updated appropriately.

Though I'm running on Hector's slate (is that the right term?), I'll still answer your questions.

How do you feel that Tolkien's ‘Lord of the Rings’ has effected your life?
I love "Lord of the Rings" and it has affected my life positively and subtly, in different ways:
- provinding a source of excellent quotes and anecdotes for almost any situation
- causing me to be known as a geek for the fairly frequent use of the aforementioned quotes and anecdotes
- causing me to be glad I'm known as a Tolkien geek, and identify myself as a Tolkienite
- providing me access to a wonderful on-line community devoted to Tolkien's works (that's Entmoot! )

If you could meet Mr. Tolkien in real life, what would you say and do?
(Ahem, that's Professor ;) Er, not to be anal.) I would say that I'm honoured to meet him, and I love his works. I'd also ask him to autograph one of my books (The Silmarillion maybe, I can't decide). If I could overcome my awe, I would ask him what Middle-earth means to him.
How many of Tolkien’s books have you read? Please give the titles.
The Hobbit
The Lord of the Rings
The Silmarillion
Farmer Giles of Ham and the Adventures of Tom Bombadil (these two works were published as one book, as well as being 2 of 4 stories in "Tales from the Perilous Realm".)
(Plans to read: The other two stories in "Tales of the Perilous Realm", which I now have, and "Roverandom". Stupid real life.)

If some one were crossing the street with a book titled 'Bored of the Rings', what would be your reaction? Would you:
H: other
I would smile, and rejoice at my terrific eye sight. I can read book titles from 15 meters away!
EDIT 2: Actually, I think I misread your question. My reaction would be, "What is 'Bored of the Rings'? That sounds like a Tolkien parody, but why is he bored? Tolkien isn't boring at all, I love reading Tolkien. Sould I read "Roverandom" now, or finish "Dune" first? Or maybe start "Leaf by Niggle"... and continue on this book train of thought.
Lets say you've just gotten home from work, and it's been a hard day. Your boss threw up all over your report, your dog was lying dead across the little 'welcome' rug when you got home, and your radio is broken and is playing rap music non-stop. The only release from your torture is the little 'Sting' replica hanging on your wall. What would you do?

I would go out to my backyard with my Sting replica and pretend I was Bilbo fighting the giant spiders in Mirkwood. Blissful escape into Tolkien's wonderful world is the perfect way to relax for a while!
EDIT 3: That would be after I bury my dog. Oops.
How do you feel about the new editions of Lord of the Rings coming out with sad little pictures from the movies plastered all over the cover?
Book covers aren't terribly important - my copy of "The Return of the King" is very battered, and my parents gave me the black-covered edition of "The Silmarillion" for Christmas. (The black-cover single circle type.) Though I feel that the artwork on the original books is nicer, the most important thing is the words themselves.

EDIT: I forgot to answer the first three questions, and then I accidentally hit "Reset Message". Aaaargh!

[Lady Ravyn]

ah HA! so this is what you were talking about! :o ;) :D

those are pretty good answers, nurv!
tell, me: what is it about LotR that first drew you in? (i don't know if we're allowed to ask questions, but i thought maybe we were supposed to or something...yeah...)

[Tessar]

All wrong Lady! All wrong!

You didn't cross your legs and smile politely when you said that. You must ALWAYS cross your legs and smile pilotely when asking questions like that! :D

[Nurvingiel]

Lol Tessar :D

What first drew me in about LotR is that my dad read it to my brother and I when we were about 10 and 11. He's great at reading aloud (he did all the voices well, especially Shagrat and Gorbag), and LotR is such a magical story. He'd read about a chapter a night, and we were just enthralled. I read it myself later, and was hooked ever since.

[Twista]

Hello there. I'd just like to indroduce myself then. If you didnt see above i am acually running for 'Foreign Affairs Minister' in this campaign, and hence forth will deal with all outside issues if we are elected. The first thing i would like to annouce is what you may call our party. ( That Being Hector, Falagar, Nurv, Myself and Artanis ). Anyway, from now on we will be known as:

"The Council of Entmoot"

We thought it was quite fitting lol. Ill be releasing my various ideas for my party in the Election process, and what ill do for you all if we get elected.

Thanks!

[brownjenkins]

i think you made a good choice for consolidating the platform :D

[Nurvingiel]

Why thank you Brownie. :)

We really like the "Trilogy", but it doesn't work now that there's five of us. We feel this combination of members and positions is the best.

[brownjenkins]

yep... and quintogy doesn't exactly roll of the tongue ;)

[BeardofPants]

This is directed the the Council of Elr- er.. I mean Entmoot: How do you justify employing someone who can't seem to spell or use the caps lock as your Foreign Affairs Minister, and representative of Tolkien? This is a sacrilege! I want... No I DEMAND answers!

[Tessar]

How?

How?!

HOW?!

HOW?!?!?!

That's a good question.

How do you justify that?

[Nurvingiel]

:D Are you referring to Twista or me? I don't think the occasional misspelled word, or misuse of the shift key is a crime against nature. :rolleyes:

Twista, of course, would be an excellent Foreign Affairs Minister due to his friendly and outgoing nature, and his strong desire to make Entmoot known to potential Mooters not yet joined.

[BeardofPants]

I am refering to the Minister of Foreign affairs which would be Twista, and I suspect that Tolkien would beg to differ. Is this the sort of candidate you want to be representing a respected author and philologist? :mad:

[Nurvingiel]

Oh dear, I don't even know what a philologist is! :o :D

Well yes! Tolkien is a genius, not anal retentive. :D The important thing is the spirit and intent of his words. If spelling is the only criticism of him, then obviously he's the ideal candidate! :D

[Drgnslyer]

*proudly strides into the open house holding a standard reading "Hector for President...heartily tolkien obsessed, on behalf of all mooters"*

Don't mind me, i'll just stand here in the front of the room holding this pretty standard....

[Nurvingiel]

Huzzah! Hurray for Hector!
And there was much rejoicing!

[Drgnslyer]

*raises the banner and waves it back and forth, trying to rally the crowd*

[Fat middle]

Update on debate results:

All newspapers open the week with the results of a large audience poll that reflects how the mooters are seeing this interesting :rolleyes: debate.

"The lazyness of the candidates puts out the mooters" is the large front title of The Entmoot Guardian.

The Derndingle Tribune chooses a more aggressive view of the situation: "Tessar's incisive questioning knocks out two"

The Daily Mirrormere, shares this view, but it's more explicit: "Fal and Nurv beaten and scattered"

"Chickens" is The Arien's take on the withdrawal of the two candidates and on the lazyness of the rest.

But it's The Daily Elen which perhaps has summarized best the audience's opinion: "Tessar for President"

[Twista]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
I am refering to the Minister of Foreign affairs which would be Twista, and I suspect that Tolkien would beg to differ. Is this the sort of candidate you want to be representing a respected author and philologist? :mad:

OK what is your problem with me? Just because i have problems with spelling you abuse me and generally being not a very nice person in my opinion. Have i done something to annoy you in the past?

[Earniel]

Mwahahah! :D

Good one FM!

*runs to the magazine store to buy papers*

[brownjenkins]

what's a caps lock key?

miss america question for all candidates... if you were on a desert island and could only bring one thing, what would it be? (there is a correct answer to this one ;) )

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
I am refering to the Minister of Foreign affairs which would be Twista, and I suspect that Tolkien would beg to differ. Is this the sort of candidate you want to be representing a respected author and philologist? :mad: I agree with BoP! :mad: tisk tisk

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
what's a caps lock key?

miss america question for all candidates... if you were on a desert island and could only bring one thing, what would it be? (there is a correct answer to this one ;) )
Miss America answer: *toothy smile* "ehem..." *bats eyes at judges* "...I would bring World Peace to the desert island." *cocks head with a toothy smile while batting eyelashes* "Thank you."

*crowd applauds*

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Twista
OK what is your problem with me? Just because i have problems with spelling you abuse me and generally being not a very nice person in my opinion. Have i done something to annoy you in the past? She's only setting you up to steal your pants. :D

[Valandil]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
what's a caps lock key?

miss america question for all candidates... if you were on a desert island and could only bring one thing, what would it be? (there is a correct answer to this one ;) )

The obvious answer on THIS board and for THIS campaign, is a boxed set of as many JRRT books as possible! :D

But... hoping to actually survive the experience, I've heard that the TWO things most necessary to survival (from which you could make anything else) are a knife and rope. I'd go with the knife, because you could also make the rope.

Unless of course... you're talking about an actual miss america as the 'one thing'! ;)

[Twista]

Originally posted by Ruinel
She's only setting you up to steal your pants. :D

Yes well, I could do without it. I thought this thing was meant to be a little bit of fun. If you are both joking, then fair enough. But if your being serious then I think your taking it a bit far.

[Tessar]

Pfffft. BoP ALWAYS steals the pants. Hang on tight to yours! :p

[brownjenkins]

Originally posted by Valandil
Unless of course... you're talking about an actual miss america as the 'one thing'! ;)

that might even be better than what i had in mind :D

great impersonation Ruinel :p

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Twista
Yes well, I could do without it.... Do without your pants. :eek:

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
great impersonation Ruinel :p *cocks head with toothy smile* "Thank you so much." :D *slips leg out of slit on the side of her evening gown and bats her eyes again*

[Nurvingiel]

*reads newspaper over a cup of coffee*
*laughs so hard she sprays coffee*
*cleans up coffee*
Awesome FM! :D

Given the recent story about Falagar and I in the Entmoot Guardian, I feel I should clarify why we withdrew. He and I (as you can see from our sig) are part of the same party as Hectorberlioz. We still plan to form the government, but Falagar and I didn't want to split the vote for our party. IOW, we don't want to "do a Ralph Nader". :D

We are not chickens, and further, our party is the only one that has been active at all in campaigning so far. However, this doesn't necessarily reflect badly on other candidates. It's very possible that people have a lot of RL stuff to deal with right now, that's fair.

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
what's a caps lock key?

miss america question for all candidates... if you were on a desert island and could only bring one thing, what would it be? (there is a correct answer to this one ;) )
Only one thing! Oh no, which Tolkien book should I bring!?

Aha! I'd bring a box holding all my Tolkien books! :D

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Oh dear, I don't even know what a philologist is! :o :D

Well yes! Tolkien is a genius, not anal retentive. :D

Uh huh. Have you read Letters lately? I'd bet he'd have a few quibbles with someone who doesn't know what the caps lock or an apostrophe is representing him.

Originally posted by Twista
OK what is your problem with me? Just because i have problems with spelling you abuse me and generally being not a very nice person in my opinion. Have i done something to annoy you in the past?

What's the matter? Can't take the heat? This *is* the OPEN forum - if you can't take it, don't run. Anyway, I don't have a problem with YOU, I have a problem with YOU REPRESENTING TOLKIEN.



I'm sorry but you guys won't be getting my vote. I don't think you have what it takes to represent Tolkien. ::shrug::

[BeardofPants]

By the way Twista, it doesn't appear that you have a spelling problem, it looks to me like you just can't be bothered using capitals, commas, and apostrophes. Again, something that is not particularly representative of Tolkien. I also don't think he'd use acronyms, but that's just me.

Oh... I'm sure I'm forgetting something here.... *cocks head on side* Oh yes! *yanks off Twista's pants* Thanks. :p



Edity edit (ta Ruinel:p): Nurv! You don't know what philology is?! FOR SHAME!!!! And you call yourself a Tolkien fan! :mad:

Are these the kind of people you want representing Tolkien, I ask you, is it?!

[Valandil]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Oh... I'm sure I'm forgetting something here.... *cocks head on side* Oh yes! *yanks off Twista's pants* Thanks. :p

BoPper!! He's a MINOR!!! :eek:

Is that legal?? :p

(EDIT: PS - I know what a philologist is! I can even spells it!!! :D )

[BeardofPants]

Well, I'm not going to *DO* anything to him, you dirty old bugger. :p

Hmmm.... *eyes Val's pants* What make are those, then? ;)

[Valandil]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Well, I'm not going to *DO* anything to him, you dirty old bugger. :p

Hmmm.... *eyes Val's pants* What make are those, then? ;)

Is it just me, or do the rest of you feel a sudden 'draft'... sorta below the belt??

[Twista]

I'm pratically 17 acually. In the UK it means I'm not a minor. :p. Still I want them back please.

[BeardofPants]

Silly Val. *smacks him* :p

Anyway, in the interests of obtaining my vote... er... I mean, continuing the campaign...

[serious voice] Now what sort of pants do you think would represent Tolkien the best? [/serious voice] Take your time. Make sure you justify your answer.

[Valandil]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Silly Val. *smacks him* :p

Anyway, in the interests of obtaining my vote... er... I mean, continuing the campaign...

[serious voice] Now what sort of pants do you think would represent Tolkien the best? [/serious voice] Take your time. Make sure you justify your answer.

Well... as all can now see :o

I wear black boxer briefs with the emblem of the crown over the seven stars above the White Tree! :D

But I don't think my campaign is about whether I represent JRR Tolkien best. For one, that would be a pretentious claim. It may also be a contentious one hereabouts. I don't intend to change my avatar or sig or title to please anyone. Each of us is as we are... and it's more important that we just have this place to meet one another and share our love for (and joy in) Professor Tolkien's work - than that we try to out-do one another proclaiming how much we adore him. He himself might even find the latter objectionable.

From Tessar's lists, my favorite question is what I would say to JRR Tolkien if I could meet him. My answer: 'Thanks!'

My second-favorite is about seeing someone with 'Bored of the Rings': It's fun to think I'd shout, "Hey loser, hope Sorehead doesn't catch Frito and Spam!! Now go back to Harvard!" Instead, I'd probably just think to myself, 'Different strokes fer different folks' (and that's SURE different! :D ) :p

Oh pants... I definitely BELIEVE in pants! I wear them every single day!! ;)

[BeardofPants]

Uh, you misunderstood the question. It's not that YOUR pants best represent Tolkien, but what kind of pants YOU feel represent Tolkien. (And here Pants = Trousers.) Tsk, tsk. Another candidate with abysmal Tolkien-related skills, i.e., Reading Comprehension. *shakes head* :p

[Valandil]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Tsk, tsk. Another candidate with abysmal Tolkien-related skills, i.e., Reading Comprehension.

Why, not at all! Simply 're-inventing' the question... considered quite the thing to do in politics these days! :D ;) :cool:

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
... Anyway, I don't have a problem with YOU, I have a problem with YOU REPRESENTING TOLKIEN.

I'm sorry but you guys won't be getting my vote. I don't think you have what it takes to represent Tolkien. ::shrug:: Actually, I don't think anyone but Tolkien himself could represent the genius. :D But hey, that's just me. ;)

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Ruinel
Actually, I don't think anyone but Tolkien himself could represent the genius. :D But hey, that's just me. ;)

Exactly! - except it isn't just you. It's silly for us to all try and 'out-Tolkien' one another!

And what's the 'litmus test'?? Must one hate the films in order to 'best' represent Tolkien? Must one wear tweed trousers? Must one refer to 'Eagle and Child' as 'B & B'??

Where will it all end?? :D

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Valandil
...
And what's the 'litmus test'?? Must one [b]hate the films in order to 'best' represent Tolkien? ... Yes. :D

Where will it all end?? :D at the opposite end of the beginning, silly! :p

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by Valandil
Exactly! - except it isn't just you. It's silly for us to all try and 'out-Tolkien' one another!
Well I agree with that. Each Mooter is (1) a fan of Tolkien and (2) representing Tolkien by posting at this board. No one is claiming to be the sole representative here. ;)

I think breeches would be the pants best representing Tolkien. I believe he described himself as being a Hobbit in all but height. (That's a paraphrase.)

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Well I agree with that. Each Mooter is (1) a fan of Tolkien and (2) representing Tolkien by posting at this board. No one is claiming to be the sole representative here. ;)

I think breeches would be the pants best representing Tolkien. I believe he described himself as being a Hobbit in all but height. (That's a paraphrase.)

Hear Hear, Nurv,
if i've posted enough by election date, the council of entmoot will get my vote

[Nurvingiel]

Thank you Chrys, we're honoured to have your vote. :)

I'm sure you'll find the 61 posts flying by.

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Thank you Chrys, we're honoured to have your vote. :)

I'm sure you'll find the 61 posts flying by.

thank you very much
i seem to post more and more each day!!

;)
chrys

[brownjenkins]

would the last child of ungoliant be shelob?

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
would the last child of ungoliant be shelob?

yes she was the last child of Ungoliant, of which the great spiders of mirkwood were just lesser descendants and halfbreeds

it is my username, as i could not think of any thing else!!

[brownjenkins]

it's a good name and welcome!

[Tessar]

Originally posted by Valandil
Why, not at all! Simply 're-inventing' the question... considered quite the thing to do in politics these days! :D ;) :cool:

:eek: He has a point!

Don't anyone DARE do that to my questions though! :p :D

If you do I swear I'll tear it to shreds and then dance on your little electoral grave. :p

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Tessar
:eek: He has a point!

Don't anyone DARE do that to my questions though! :p :D

If you do I swear I'll tear it to shreds and then dance on your little electoral grave. :p :eek: So VIOLENT!!! :eek:

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by Ruinel
:eek: So VIOLENT!!! :eek:

I know,
he needs to chill out a bit!!

chrys

:)

[Tessar]

NO I'M NOT VIOLENT YOU LITTLE... PERSON!

*sniffle* It's that I have a simple complex. But besides that we're off topic I think... I'm not really sure :eek:.


*crosses legs*

All right, so how do you all feel about gun controll?

*hops to other chair and flashes a toothy and fake smile*

Well Stan, I feel that yes, guns should be controllable. I'd hate to shoot myself in the foot.

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by brownjenkins
it's a good name and welcome!

BTW thanx very much brownjenkins:)

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by Tessar
Well Stan, I feel that yes, guns should be controllable. I'd hate to shoot myself in the foot.
Lol Tessar. :D

Gun registry, well, the program we have in Canada is sadly not working very well. I think it's an excellent idea in theory, but it doesn't appear to work well in practice. However, maybe another country has a better system of implementing this idea.

[Tessar]

What? You mean people can't control their guns?!!?!

Time to bring up the 'leash' law again I think! People should NOT be walking around without their gun on a leash!

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

In UK, guns have just been banned completely, except air rifles, and things like that,
but even this policy doesn't work!!

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by Tessar
What? You mean people can't control their guns?!!?!

Time to bring up the 'leash' law again I think! People should NOT be walking around without their gun on a leash!
*smacks forehead* I was thinking "gun registry" the whole time I was typing that. I will go edit appropriately.

With respect to gun control, some crooks have guns, but most people have properly stored shotguns or pistols. You're not allowed to buy automatic weapons or any military weapons, and this is enforced well as far as I know. Erm... what does this have to do with Entmoot? :confused:

[Tessar]

Oh, did I mention that anyone who likes can answer any of the questions that I asked in the Debate thread? They just have to post them somewhere other than the debate thread :D.

[Tessar]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Erm... what does this have to do with Entmoot? :confused:

Ents don't like guns.

You needs Ents for an Entmoot.

Therefore Ents and Entmoots are directly related as guns are to Ents which are to Entmoots which are to guns as guns are to the Ents of the Entmoots of the Entmoot that we are talking about right NOW!

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by Tessar
Ents don't like guns.

You needs Ents for an Entmoot.

Therefore Ents and Entmoots are directly related as guns are to Ents which are to Entmoots which are to guns as guns are to the Ents of the Entmoots of the Entmoot that we are talking about right NOW!

Care to translate??

chrys

;)

[Tessar]

'k, I'll take this slowly...


If ents = x

trees = y

guns = z

entmoot = h

and we all = j

then x = y = z = h = j

And x = y = h = j - z = what we're talking about

BUT y + z + x = zero users posting.

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by Tessar
Ents don't like guns.

You needs Ents for an Entmoot.

Therefore Ents and Entmoots are directly related as guns are to Ents which are to Entmoots which are to guns as guns are to the Ents of the Entmoots of the Entmoot that we are talking about right NOW!
If Ents knew of guns they certainly wouldn't like them. :D

I think guns should be strictly banned from Entmoot. They're not needed here... erm... obviously. ;)

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
If Ents knew of guns they certainly wouldn't like them. :D

I think guns should be strictly banned from Entmoot. They're not needed here... erm... obviously. ;)

hear hear

nice, plain english!!

chrys

;)

[Tessar]

But I was using english :(

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by Tessar
But I was using english :(

sorry,
i only got a C in English language for my GCSE's
you have to speak slowly!!

chrys

:(

[Drgnslyer]

*waves his banner some more*

[HOBBIT]

HOBBIT ANNOUNCEMENT

Ignore my intial endorsement in the topic that is closed.

That was when I was under the dellusion that admins stood together and that SGH was qualified.

She most definitely is not.

The title of president is mine and I want someone who will wear it well, at this time I do not believe that to be SGH.

At this time I would support , Hector, Falagar and his crew. Kinda like how I was 4 years ago.

HOBBIT ANNOUNCEMENT

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by HOBBIT
HOBBIT ANNOUNCEMENT

Ignore my intial endorsement in the topic that is closed.

That was when I was under the dellusion that admins stood together and that SGH was qualified.

She most definitely is not.

The title of president is mine and I want someone who will wear it well, at this time I do not believe that to be SGH.

At this time I would support , Hector, Falagar and his crew. Kinda like how I was 4 years ago.

HOBBIT ANNOUNCEMENT
You think your opinion matters? I'm sure because the great and powerful hobbit endorses someone everyone will just flock to them. :p

Nurv, Falagar, Hector - I would refuse his endorsement if you know what is good for you. :p

[Lizra]

What's going on? Sarcasm? More attempts to make Entmoot "goofy fun"? Man, this election has more "bull" than the real one! I think we should raise the stakes. Let's give "The President" some kind of actual power.....Besides greeting newbies...Hmmm..

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by HOBBIT
HOBBIT ANNOUNCEMENT

Ignore my intial endorsement in the topic that is closed.

That was when I was under the dellusion that admins stood together and that SGH was qualified.

She most definitely is not.

The title of president is mine and I want someone who will wear it well, at this time I do not believe that to be SGH.

At this time I would support , Hector, Falagar and his crew. Kinda like how I was 4 years ago.

HOBBIT ANNOUNCEMENT I would like to know how you got elected in the first place:rolleyes: Aside from you being the brother of the owner and perhaps humored for that, I have failed to see your qualifications. Good thing you're not running for re-election.:p

[HOBBIT]

No, I am serious.


JD, shut up. I have had enough of your bull.

Try being nice, eh?

I would hope that my opinion matters to mooters, being a member since 1999 and an admin for so long. I am no longer respected? My opinion no longer matters? So says you.

I for one don't care about your opinion. You have crossed the line to many times and I am fed up with you.

Hector, Falagar, Nurv most closely resemble how I was 4 years ago and they seem to be having about as much fun as I used to have. I'd vote for them.

[HOBBIT]

SGH - believe it or not but I was popular.

Ben was a main person who did not support me - he wanted gil to win.

The other mods and admins and a majority of members supported me.

He specifically didn't want me to be mod BECAUSE I was his bro.

I earned it.

See my post in the mod forum plz SGH.

Goodbye, for now.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by HOBBIT


Try being nice, eh?



Hector, Falagar, Nurv most closely resemble how I was 4 years ago and they seem to be having about as much fun as I used to have. I'd vote for them. Wouldn't hurt for you to take your own advice. You can vote for whoever the hell you want, because it's nothing but a joke anyway.:rolleyes:

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by HOBBIT
JD, shut up. I have had enough of your bull.

Well the feeling is mutual. you can dish it out - just can't take it it seems.

Try being nice, eh?

I would hope that my opinion matters to mooters, being a member since 1999 and an admin for so long. I am no longer respected? My opinion no longer matters? So says you.

Like who cares how long you have been a member? You haven't been on for almost a year except for the past month. :rolleyes: Most of the newbies don't even know you. :p

I for one don't care about your opinion. You have crossed the line to many times and I am fed up with you.

I think that is the OTHER WAY around.

Hector, Falagar, Nurv most closely resemble how I was 4 years ago and they seem to be having about as much fun as I used to have. I'd vote for them.
Yeah - that was when I think you were actually nice and had fun. Now you just throw your admin position around every chance you get along with your damn presidential title. How things change, :rolleyes:

By the way - i like how you flame me by telling me to "shut up". So much for free speech - huh? :rolleyes:

[Tessar]

Some how, I don't think this whole election thing is a very good idea any more.

-edited for the sake of peace-

[Lizra]

Jersey....do you have a "feminine" side? Try getting in touch with it! Your posts often aren't very nice. :( If I had a magic wand, I'd put a woman in your life, full time. I dunno, you like to stir up trouble...it gives me the creeps sometimes! :eek: Leave HOBBIT alone!

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Lizra
Jersey....do you have a "feminine" side? Try getting in touch with it! Your posts often aren't very nice. :( If I had a magic wand, I'd put a woman in your life, full time. I dunno, you like to stir up trouble...it gives me the creeps sometimes! :eek: Leave HOBBIT alone!
Sorry - I am just speaking my mind. Sorry you don't like it. You don't have to read it.

BTW - you don't know everything that is going on between me and Hobbit at this time.

[Lizra]

I going to take the advice I want to give you. Less is more. I'll stop here. :)

[gollum9630]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I would like to know how you got elected in the first place:rolleyes: Aside from you being the brother of the owner and perhaps humored for that, I have failed to see your qualifications. Good thing you're not running for re-election.:p

that would be hilarious, theres no way hed get re-elected. as JD said, not a lot of newbs know him. heck, i didnt know who he was until the summer.

[Nurvingiel]

Thank you for your kind support Hobbit. :) The Council of Entmoot values and respects everyone's contributions. We do have a lot of fun! I hope you still have fun though. :)

Thanks for posting here JD, I'm glad you came (tired of all my PMs filling up your inbox eh? Just kidding. :D).

For some mysterious reason, this thread seems to not be happy anymore. I'm not taking your advice Lizra, since I'm babbling on here, but I think the particular direction this thread is going should be redirected at something else, like food.

Refreshments anyone? The purpose of this thread is a jolly discussion of fun (which, IMO, is what the election is about - fun!)

Since I started the thread, I feel that I should moderate a bit.

Important: I kindly ask everyone at the Open House to make sure that
(1) Comments do not, either intentionally or unintentionally, make anyone feel 'picked on' or unfairly criticized.
(2) If you do feel 'picked on' or unfairly criticized, please do not respond angrily. This only makes the situation worse, and most likely the comment was not intended in a mean way. Please try to resolve it over PM.

Thanks guys. :)

[azalea]

What kind of refreshments are you handing out? That's my question for the candidates. Hand out the right ones and you'll have my vote.;)

[Lizra]

Ummm, what are your official colors Hector/Fal/Nurv?
Maybe the president could be "the giver of custom titles"? well, something! :rolleyes:

[Nurvingiel]

Well, since the refreshments I brought are from the Teacup Cafe, I have fresh cheese scones and one of those big urn thingies of tea. (Orange Pekoe) I also have a plate of Deviled Eggs. Everyone help themselves! :)

[Tessar]

Oh gosh yes. Anyone who is serving good refreshments has my vote too. *drool*

Not to mention they should support exercise, but only subtly. ;)

[azalea]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Well, since the refreshments I brought are from the Teacup Cafe, I have fresh cheese scones and one of those big urn thingies of tea. (Orange Pekoe) I also have a plate of Deviled Eggs. Everyone help themselves! :)

Hm. That's not going to cut it for me. What does Hector have to offer?

[Tessar]

Yea, same here. Scones? Pfffffft. Tea? Hah! I laugh at your iced tea ;).

We wants meat, we wants cheese, we wants bread, we wants SUGAR!!!!! :D

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Tessar
Ents don't like guns.

You needs Ents for an Entmoot.

Therefore Ents and Entmoots are directly related as guns are to Ents which are to Entmoots which are to guns as guns are to the Ents of the Entmoots of the Entmoot that we are talking about right NOW!

I don't know if Ents would have such a great problem with guns. Maybe we should really be talking about Axe Control! Do we have an active Axe Registry Program? Or can we simply outlaw axe ownership? Is THAT ONE a constitutionally protected right? (trying to imagine Charlton Heston holding an axe aloft; "...from my cold, dead, hands!")

Or do we subscribe to the notion of the NAA (National Axemen's Association): 'Axes don't kill trees, People (Men, Dwarf, Hobbit, even Orc) kill trees!'??

Well, then there's fire...

[azalea]

Originally posted by Tessar
Yea, same here. Scones? Pfffffft. Tea? Hah! I laugh at your iced tea ;).

We wants meat, we wants cheese, we wants bread, we wants SUGAR!!!!! :D

Lol, same here, except no meat. How about some fresh fruit, too?

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by Lizra
Ummm, what are your official colors Hector/Fal/Nurv?
We haven't thought of that yet, but I would personally say green and orange. Before anything's official, we'll all talk about it though.

Maybe the president could be "the giver of custom titles"? well, something! :rolleyes:
Cool idea. I think the very fact of being the President of Entmoot is pretty darned cool though. :D :cool:

[azalea]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
We haven't thought of that yet, but I would personally say green and orange.



How convenient.:D

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by Tessar
Yea, same here. Scones? Pfffffft. Tea? Hah! I laugh at your iced tea ;).
It's hot tea, but hm... iced tea.

We wants meat, we wants cheese, we wants bread, we wants SUGAR!!!!! :D
If you want cheese, have a cheese scone. :D

I thought this was a pot-luck type jellied salad refreshment table, but if professional catering is required, then I can deliver.

[Tessar]

Pfft. Cheese scones not good enough. Hungry voters want GOOD cheese without silly bread stuff in way! Feed the voters! :p

[azalea]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel


I thought this was a pot-luck type jellied salad refreshment table,

No, no, no, you're way off. What do the other candidates have? Who the heck else is running? I can't keep up with the changes.

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by azalea
How convenient.:D
Well, it fits. :D

I cross posted with everyone in my last few posts, the Open House is busy! I'm glad to see that. :) I'm off to the Cafe to rastle up some 'pro' refreshments. But I wouldn't be too quick to pooh pooh those scones if I were you. ;)

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by azalea
Who the heck else is running? I can't keep up with the changes.
It's Jonathan - future president :p, Sister Golden Hair and Hector.

[azalea]

Originally posted by jerseydevil
It's Jonathan - future president :p, Sister Golden Hair and Hector.

Thank you for clarifying. How dare Jonathan go off and have fun when he has important Entmoot campaigning to do!:D Everyone here knows Entmoot must supercede real life. Just look at me, I should have been offline hours ago, but no, I must moot on. Well, on second thought, I need some sleep. See you all tomorrow.:)

[Tessar]

That's right JD, just keep thinking that while I subtly poison the minds of the candidates till they're actually voting for ME! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


... Did I just say that out loud?

[Nurvingiel]

Goodnight Azalea. I don't think it's unreasonable for Jonathan to to be taking care of RL stuff. I'm sure he'll come and give us a good debate later. :)

Edit: I cross posted with you Tessar. :D You're doing what? Maybe you secretly plan to enter the race at the last minute. ;)

[Tessar]

No I do not! Really! That was a slip of the tongue.:D :p <-- see! There it is! A slippy tongue!

[Finrod Felagund]

Well, I have chocolate, cheesecake, and Lembas! Everyone enjoy!

EDIT: And jelly bellies...mmmmm

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Lizra
Jersey....do you have a "feminine" side? Try getting in touch with it!...
*snicker*
He's going to be pissed when he sees this post, but we all know I have no self control anyway. :D So, I might as well get it out before I explode. :p

If JD had a 'feminine side' he'd be 'in touch' with it every chance he got!!! roflmao!!!! :D

[Tessar]

:rolleyes: *sigh* you people... really.

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Tessar
No I do not! Really! That was a slip of the tongue.:D :p <-- see! There it is! A slippy tongue! :eek: Are you slipping Nurvingiel the tongue? :eek:

Naughty naughty!!!! :mad: Quit molesting the mooters! :D pervert

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Finrod Felagund
Well, I have chocolate, cheesecake, and Lembas! Everyone enjoy! :mad: You will NOT bribe me!!! NEVER!!!! :mad: :eek: is that chocolate?... :( ... :o... *dives into chocolate and stuffs it into her face* ;) :p :D

[Tessar]

Trust me, if anyone around here is a pervert, it ain't me. :p


*bangs mug on bar* *breaks mug* *mutters*

Err... SPEECH! SPEECH!

C'mon runners! Make some speeches! *hic*

[Valandil]

I made one last night, but it got ignored amidst all the spamming about scones and everything... which really sounds like 'Tea Cup Cafe' talk... where the talk is starting to sound like 'Mooters Spring Ball'... ;)

[Tessar]

I don't know if Ents would have such a great problem with guns. Maybe we should really be talking about Axe Control! Do we have an active Axe Registry Program? Or can we simply outlaw axe ownership? Is THAT ONE a constitutionally protected right? (trying to imagine Charlton Heston holding an axe aloft; "...from my cold, dead, hands!")

Or do we subscribe to the notion of the NAA (National Axemen's Association): 'Axes don't kill trees, People (Men, Dwarf, Hobbit, even Orc) kill trees!'??

Well, then there's fire...

This'un?

*cough* *takes mic*

AHA! But you've *hic* left one vuuuuuuuury important part out of that!

The trees were GLAD of the fire in ROTK! Support fires near forests-but-not-actually-within-them-because-that-would-be-a-bad-idea!

And I here by subscribe to the NAA! Where can I pick up my free axe? :D

[Ruinel]

What was the question?

[Artanis]

This is just as messy and off-topic as rl political debates. :D

[Earniel]

Okay people, back on topic please. :) This isn't the Tea Cup Cafe.

[Valandil]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Uh, you misunderstood the question. It's not that YOUR pants best represent Tolkien, but what kind of pants YOU feel represent Tolkien. (And here Pants = Trousers.) Tsk, tsk. Another candidate with abysmal Tolkien-related skills, i.e., Reading Comprehension. *shakes head* :p

Pants, pants, PANTS! ALL you ever think about is pants!!

Let's just DROP the PANTS... uh, OK issue that is... drop the 'Pants Issue' :o :D ;)

[Tessar]

...

...


...


And you people think I'M perverted? *sigh* ;)

But back to the issue at hand, I would now like to ask a question:

What does it actually MEAN to you that you would be president, vice president, ect.? I mean why do you want to be one, and what do you think being one represents?

Also, for us little voter people:

Why do you want to vote for the person you're currently supporting?


For me I support SGH because I know her, and I know she's a mature, respectable adult person who has shown that she doesn't loose her head at the drop of an insult or flame.

[Drgnslyer]

I'm supporting Hector, Nurv, and company simply because I know them to be quality people in and out of the Moot. Their fanatical obsession with all things tolkien makes them perfect representatives and ambassadors for the Entmoot.

Not to mention they have a really cool standard :D

*Waves the standard around some more*

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by Drgnslyer
I'm supporting Hector, Nurv, and company simply because I know them to be quality people in and out of the Moot. Their fanatical obsession with all things tolkien makes them perfect representatives and ambassadors for the Entmoot.

Not to mention they have a really cool standard :D

*Waves the standard around some more*

Hear hear

all vote for the council of Entmoot

:D
(and i'll give out free bottles of the old winyards ;) )

[azalea]

Well, I am currently supporting FF because he's handing out cheesecake and Lembas, but I may change my mind on a whim. If LCU is handing out winyards at the ballot box, I may be swayed in another direction.:)
BTW, I don't think gun control will be much of an issue in a virtual election, do you?;)

[Valandil]

Originally posted by azalea

BTW, I don't think gun control will be much of an issue in a virtual election, do you?;)

As I've been saying, around here at Entmoot, axe control should be the pivotal issue! How come I'm the only one talking about axe control?? :cool:

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Valandil
As I've been saying, around here at Entmoot, axe control should be the pivotal issue! How come I'm the only one talking about axe control?? :cool: What's your guy's views on admin stick control?:D

[azalea]

[Never mind, I answered my own ques.]

Edit: I think the poll in the debate thread needs to be modified, because a couple of the candidates have dropped out and are supporting Hector.

[Nurvingiel]

I agree. Not only that, but Falagar and I are running on Hector's ticket.

[Lizra]

I've decided to boycott the elction, in deference to HOBBIT.
Have fun.

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Lizra
I've decided to boycott the elction, in deference to HOBBIT.
Have fun.

*sigh* voter apathy! ;)

[Nurvingiel]

Fair enough Lizra, abstention is a valid vote.

However, Hobbit himself supports us, so out of respect for him, wouldn't you want to support us as well? :)

Cheers, Nurv

[Lizra]

Well yes...a vote for the always polite Hector! Ok, I'm done with it. :)

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
What's your guy's views on admin stick control?:D
Since you are the only admin with a stick, I'm not too worried. I've never seen you abuse this power, so for now I'm content to trust you. However, if we were to witness admin brutality here, harsh stick control measures should be introduced.
:D

[BeardofPants]

Ah Nurv, she practises admin brutality periodically. I've many a scar from those thwacks. *rubs head* :(

Nurv, if you were still running as an independent, I probably would have voted for you. But now, I'm not sure I have confidence in some members of your party, and so I'm facing a dilemma. I'd really need to see some more campaigning by Hector to assess him as a presidential candidate. Where is he, btw? I haven't seen him around, and you seem to be doing all the campaigning footwork...? :confused: And as for Twista - well, he'd better learn to type properly! *pointed look*

[Nurvingiel]

Thank you for your confidence BoP! :) *bows*

Hector is quite overwhelmed with RL at the moment, I hope he's okay. :(

Our party is actually the only one campaigning! :D SGH might have some kind of strategy going on, but I think she and Jonathan should both hop into the debates. It's a bit one-sided right now. :D

I have actually noticed recent improvements in Twista's typing, it seems he's taking your advice to heart and really working on it.

Falagar is also doing an excellent job campaigning; the three of us are "holding down the fort" until Hector's return. Though Artanis isn't campaigning directly, I think her thoughtful, intelligent posts and massive knowledge speak for themselves.

Cheers guys!
Nurv

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

i pledge allegiance to the council of entmoot

my vote goes to hector

it would be wise, my friend, to join with him, we must join with hector


im still giving out free bottles of the old winyards,
vintage 1447, a very good year, laid down by my father...

[Bombadillo]

Originally posted by jerseydevil
Well the feeling is mutual. you can dish it out - just can't take it it seems.

Like who cares how long you have been a member? You haven't been on for almost a year except for the past month. :rolleyes: Most of the newbies don't even know you. :p

I think that is the OTHER WAY around.

Yeah - that was when I think you were actually nice and had fun. Now you just throw your admin position around every chance you get along with your damn presidential title. How things change, :rolleyes:

By the way - i like how you flame me by telling me to "shut up". So much for free speech - huh? :rolleyes: Originally posted by jerseydevil
Sorry - I am just speaking my mind. Sorry you don't like it. You don't have to read it.

BTW - you don't know everything that is going on between me and Hobbit at this time. Before I disect that post with harsh judgmentality and potentially break off a friendship with you over such a simple matter, what is going on between you? If I may guess, does it involve your sudden title change?

[Bombadillo]

Originally posted by Ruinel
*snicker*
He's going to be pissed when he sees this post, but we all know I have no self control anyway. :D So, I might as well get it out before I explode. :p

If JD had a 'feminine side' he'd be 'in touch' with it every chance he got!!! roflmao!!!! :D BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!:D :D :D

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
What's your guy's views on admin stick control?:D There is no place among the gentle folk of Entmoot for the brutality of "the stick". :o I am in favor of keeping the beauty and civility of our lovely society, but like the Valar, I would refrain from brutality and force until all other measures have been exhausted. "The stick" should never have to be used. In the wrong hands, it can be abused, and used to abuse.

*steps away from the mic*
*crowd applauds*

[Finrod Felagund]

I am officially announcing that my fellow TLA member, Katt_knome_hobbit, will be running as my VP!


And in relation to admin sticks, I think Ben should be the only onewitha access to it, because we know he would use it only in the most dire and life/entmoot threatening of situations!

[Tessar]

But Ben is never around to wield the stick of deadly doom and such! SOME ONE has to use it! :eek:

[Lalaith_Elf]

Okay well all this combining Fal, Hector and Nurv thing is making me confused...

Anyone care to point out who exactly is running, so I can decied who I want to vote for.

[Beor]

Sister Golden Hair
Jonathan
Nurvingiel
HectorBerloiz
Falagar
Finrod Felagund

I think thats it...sorry if I forgot anyone...

[Nurvingiel]

Falagar and I didn't want to "split the vote" between Council of Entmoot members (since the three of us formed an allinance).

So Fal and I withdrew, supporting Hector as president. However, we're also running on his ticket, Falagar as Internal Affairs Minister, and myself as Vice President. We also welcomed two new members to the party - Twista for Foreign Affairs Minister, and Artanis as Minister of Culture.

Vote Council of Entmoot! Hector for President!

[Lalaith_Elf]

But I thought that Fal and Nurv dropped out to help Hector... or am I imagining things again?!?

EDIT: Thanks Nurv... that sorta cleared things up.

[Beor]

oh, yeah, and Nurv, my avatar is

thanks for updating me, by the way :)

Elendil at the Last Alliance, I think.

[Nurvingiel]

What did I do? I mean yea me! :D

I hope we can count on your votes Lal and Beor, we'd be honoured to have your support! :)

[Lalaith_Elf]

I don't know who I'm voting for at the moment.

[Beor]

I didnt pledge any support, I have been loyal to Sister Golden Hair since the beginning. :)
I am her Foreign Minister.

You cleared things up for me, I've been gone for a few days.

[Nurvingiel]

*reads Beor's sig*
Oh yeah. Oops! :o :D

Well Lal, I do hope you vote for us, but take your time to think about it. Hm... didn't Twista make your avvie? He's our Foreign Minister... :D

[Beor]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
*reads Beor's sig*
Oh yeah. Oops! :o :D

Well Lal, I do hope you vote for us, but take your time to think about it. Hm... didn't Twista make your avvie? He's our Foreign Minister... :D

Bribes!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D ;) :p

[Lalaith_Elf]

Nope Hector made it.

I don't think I'm going to vote for anyone. *shrugs* I'll think on it.

[Nurvingiel]

Even better, our prez! That's not a bribe Beor, Hector made the av before campaigning even started. :D

[Beor]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Even better, our prez! That's not a bribe Beor, Hector made the av before campaigning even started. :D

I know, just messing with ya. ;)

[Nurvingiel]

I know, I just wanted to have fun with it. :D
Gratuitous toothy grin smilie! :D

[Beor]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
I know, I just wanted to have fun with it. :D
Gratuitous toothy grin smilie! :D

I figured that.:D

heh...heh...gratituatous...heh...heh:D

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
I hope we can count on your votes Lal and Beor, we'd be honoured to have your support! :) Is this proper behavior for campaigning: to strong arm people into voting for your candidate? :mad: What has the 'Moot come to these days! :p I think I'll start calling your group "The Cartel" :D


errrrr... anyway....
Vote for freedom from Evil! Vote to restore Entmoot to it's beauty and glory!
VOTE FOR THE ALLIANCE OF MEN AND ELVES!!
Vote Jonathan for President and Ruinel for Vice President!!
Together again, Men and Elves, we shall unite under one banner!!

[Beor]

vote for Sister Golden Hair, the candidate who cares for the Entmoot dearly, and for all those who abide within it.

[Lalaith_Elf]

At the moment Ruinel is winning my vote... it must be that shouting... but I doubt I'll stick with it...

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Lalaith_Elf
At the moment Ruinel is winning my vote... it must be that shouting... but I doubt I'll stick with it...
lol! :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

I asked this question in the 'debate' thread, but I'm going to ask it here too. Why are people voting in the poll when all of the candidates have not addressed the questions? This doesn't make sense and shows to me, that the voters are voting out of favoritism of a candidate and not on the candidates views of campaign issues

[Lalaith_Elf]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I asked this question in the 'debate' thread, but I'm going to ask it here too. Why are people voting in the poll when all of the candidates have not addressed the questions? This doesn't make sense and shows to me, that the voters are voting out of favoritism of a candidate and not on the candidates views of campaign issues

Hence the reason why I haven't made up my mind about who to vote for, yet.

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I asked this question in the 'debate' thread, but I'm going to ask it here too. Why are people voting in the poll when all of the candidates have not addressed the questions? This doesn't make sense and shows to me, that the voters are voting out of favoritism of a candidate and not on the candidates views of campaign issues Well, since I'm a minister in Jonathan's government, I'll defiantly vote for him. No matter what. So there's no point in waiting is there? But I'm not sure about other votes.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Well, since I'm a minister in Jonathan's government, I'll defiantly vote for him. No matter what. So there's no point in waiting is there? But I'm not sure about other votes. I understand that, but the poll should be closed until the campaign is over. Maybe I am being to technical, but in a real election, votes are cast after the campaign, not during.

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by SGH
I understand that, but the poll should be closed until the campaign is over. Maybe I am being to technical, but in a real election, votes are cast after the campaign, not during.I agree.

Originally posted by Ruinel

VOTE FOR THE ALLIANCE OF MEN AND ELVES!!
AND ISTARI!!!

I keep being forgotten by Ruinel:mad: ;)

[BeardofPants]

Eh? Why are members of the parties allowed to vote? If they're running for VP or minister of some-such related garbage, then they shouldn't be able to vote!

[azalea]

See that's another reason why that debate thread is annoying. Not only do non-candidates keep posting in it, but people are voting and no one but FF has participated yet! PLUS the fact that the poll isn't even accurate, because some of those people are no longer presidential candidates!
I think people don't understand -- the poll in the debate thread is to vote for who you think is winning the debate, NOT who you want to win (I mean, be president). The actual voting for president isn't for a couple of weeks!

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Eh? Why are members of the parties allowed to vote? If they're running for VP or minister of some-such related garbage, then they shouldn't be able to vote! Well, if the election is based on say, something in the way of a US election, then everyone may vote. Candidates also may vote even for themselves if they wish.

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Eh? Why are members of the parties allowed to vote? If they're running for VP or minister of some-such related garbage, then they shouldn't be able to vote! Why? In real countries, everyone votes, if he wants to.
If Hector has more ministers, does that mean he would have less votes? It doesn't make sense.

[azalea]

But that's not the voting for president, it's voting for the debate! I don't think the participants should be voting on that myself, but of course they could vote for president. But it isn't that big a deal anyway, because there is no debate. No matter how many votes they get in that poll, it will have no bearing on the actual election.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by azalea
But that's not the voting for president, it's voting for the debate! I don't think the participants should be voting on that myself, but of course they could vote for president. But it isn't that big a deal anyway, because there is no debate. No matter how many votes they get in that poll, it will have no bearing on the actual election. Well, I am sure all the candidates intend to answer the questions in the debate, but at the moment, only FF has done that, so why are they voting for candidates in the debate, that haven't debated and they have nothing really to base their vote on?

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

i have a question for the candidates, then:

what do you plan to make better for all mooters?

[azalea]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Well, I am sure all the candidates intend to answer the questions in the debate, but at the moment, only FF has done that, so why are they voting for candidates in the debate, that haven't debated and they have nothing really to base their vote on?

I guess they are either:
1. Confused, as I detailed above, or
2. Just voting based on who they want to win OR
3. Voting for themselves, which isn't really fair in a debate, since they can't objectivly judge whether or not they're winning.

I think your idea of closing it till the debate is over makes sense.

[brownjenkins]

i'm confused just reading the last few posts :confused: :p

still voting for hector though... i haven't disagreed with anything he's said up to this point ;)

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I understand that, but the poll should be closed until the campaign is over. Maybe I am being to technical, but in a real election, votes are cast after the campaign, not during.
You could think of that as an official poll, rather than the election itself. (Which is by PM "ballots".)

This poll is accurate to 5%, 19 times out of 20... :D

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Well, if the election is based on say, something in the way of a US election, then everyone may vote. Candidates also may vote even for themselves if they wish.

But wouldn't this unfairly weight the election towards the larger parties who have more members, and are therefore guaranteed a larger chunk of the vote as compared to the smaller parties who only have one or two members?

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
But wouldn't this unfairly weight the election towards the larger parties who have more members, and are therefore guaranteed a larger chunk of the vote as compared to the smaller parties who only have one or two members? How so? In a US election if you are a registered voter, then you can vote. In the US, we pay more attention to the candidates themselves than the parties, and the candidates have the right to vote like every other citizen. Why would it change the balance just because they voted and are a candidate. They would still vote, candidate or not, and as a candidate, and a voter, they may vote for themselves.

[BeardofPants]

Yes, I know that. It's how the NZ elections operate as well. And I'm not talking about the presidential candidate in particular - I'm talking about the party numbers. Say one party has 5, and one party has 2, that means the bigger party has an advantage over the smaller party. It's weighted towards the bigger one, because they will get 5 votes automatically as compared to the smaller party which will only get two votes automatically. See what I mean? The only way to balance this would be to make it mandatory that every party has an equal amount of members, or with-holding the vote from party members. Of course, if you don't care about making the vote more fair because you have a large party anyway, I can see how you might be inclined to just ignore the problem. ::shrug:: In any case, as it stands at the moment, it would be in all the parties' best interests to recruit as many members as possible to secure the a bigger chunk of the vote. Hypothetically, a candidate *could* win just because they have a large party. They could just go around recruiting random Ministers of [insert activity here]. Does no one see a problem with this? :confused:

[Nurvingiel]

If a party could get that many people to commit, then that means they have a lot of support anyway.

If I wasn't allowed to run as VP ( :eek: ), I'd still vote for Hector. So what difference does it make?

:)

[BeardofPants]

Well, yes, you have a point there...

[Sister Golden Hair]

Yeah, I do see what you are saying, but the voters outside of the party will make the difference. I know what you mean though. It's like say: Hector gets 5 votes from his staff and I get 3 from mine, yet Hector gets the majority vote of the members and wins by 2 votes. I could have won had his staff not voted. There can be many outcomes though, and I don't think that because a candidate's staff votes for their candidate, that that will guarantee their victory, although it could. It is a maybe, maybe not win, lose, situation. Does that make sense?

[Nurvingiel]

What you say makes sense SGH, but IMO if the difference between two candidates is a mere two or three votes, then we have worse problems. Like abysmal voter turnout.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
What you say makes sense SGH, but IMO if the difference between two candidates is a mere two or three votes, then we have worse problems. Like abysmal voter turnout. That's why I mean there could be several outcomes, depending on whether we are looking at a landslide win, or a close race. In the event of a very close race, 2 or 3 or 4 votes could make the difference.

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Bombadillo
Before I disect that post with harsh judgmentality and potentially break off a friendship with you over such a simple matter, what is going on between you? If I may guess, does it involve your sudden title change?
Actually it has nothing whatsoever to do with my title change. My title change is like a nursery school punishment - and deals with something else entirely. The thing with Hobbit is over multiple things and he has chosen to post these things onto the board and into every thread he can. If he wants to act like a jerk to me on the board - I can give it back to him just as easily.

[Bombadillo]

Originally posted by jerseydevil
Actually it has nothing whatsoever to do with my title change. My title change is like a nursery school punishment - and deals with something else entirely. The thing with Hobbit is over multiple things and he has chosen to post these things onto the board and into every thread he can. If he wants to act like a jerk to me on the board - I can give it back to him just as easily. Hmmm... I was sure that I'd edited that post out and just PMed it to you, but apparently I just double posted, left it open, and PMed it to you anyway. :o Whoops.

Originally posted by Ruinel
errrrr... anyway....
Vote for freedom from Evil! Vote to restore Entmoot to it's beauty and glory!
VOTE FOR THE ALLIANCE OF MEN AND ELVES!!
Vote Jonathan for President and Ruinel for Vice President!!
Together again, Men and Elves, we shall unite under one banner!! That's impossible. Everyone knows that Elves and Men can never unite again without contradicting Tolkien. I think I'll summon the Valar to forbid this from occuring. (I can do that now.) By Eru, it mustn't. :) Vote for Hector!

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Bombadillo
Hmmm... I was sure that I'd edited that post out and just PMed it to you, but apparently I just double posted, left it open, and PMed it to you anyway. :o Whoops.
Don't worry about it. Other's involved have brought this out into the open board - so it's not like I care that much. I'm sure your questions are the same as many other mooters because all anyone sees is what certain people involved have decided to reveal in their posts on the open board (or through the use of a stupid title) :p.

[azalea]

Suggestion: If the vote comes down to winning say, by four or fewer, we could have a run-off, where the party isn't allowed to vote or something like that.

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I asked this question in the 'debate' thread, but I'm going to ask it here too. Why are people voting in the poll when all of the candidates have not addressed the questions? This doesn't make sense and shows to me, that the voters are voting out of favoritism of a candidate and not on the candidates views of campaign issues Just as in RL ... :rolleyes: :D

[Artanis]

Originally posted by azalea
Suggestion: If the vote comes down to winning say, by four or fewer, we could have a run-off, where the party isn't allowed to vote or something like that. Well, the rules for the election should at least be clear before the election begins. It seems they are not.

[Drgnslyer]

And don't forget the quasi-offical self imposed standard bearer :) Just the straggler on the side holding the big flag :P

[Bombadillo]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I asked this question in the 'debate' thread, but I'm going to ask it here too. Why are people voting in the poll when all of the candidates have not addressed the questions? This doesn't make sense and shows to me, that the voters are voting out of favoritism of a candidate and not on the candidates views of campaign issues I voted already before anybody answered because the question was only "Who loves Tolkien the most?" and not "Who are you voting for?" So I based my decision on all the other posts by the users running that I've read, because I don't think that can even be answered in a single post or single thread. I wound up voting for Finrod, even though I'm supporting Hector so far in the election. That poll was kind of irrelevant. Plus I think the final vote will be handled through the PM system, right? So those polls will be disregarded.

Ultimately, Artanis is right; someone's got to clarify these rules and tell me whether or not I just accidentally screwed Hector over.

[brownjenkins]

good point bomb... i had the same thought considering the subject of the poll... i'd think most people here love tolkien equally... or close enough

[Katt_knome_hobbit]

Hello. I have just aggreed to run as vice president for Finrod and I have nothing else to say. I am not long winded like most politicians, (Katt can't spell) but luckily I have a brilliant campaign staff draped over my shoulders right now checking my spelling.

Vote for FINROD, as a representitive of the Tolkien Lovers Annonymous.

[Finrod Felagund]

Well, I'm not running just as a representative of TLA, but that is a part of who I am, thanks for agreeing Katt!

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by Last Child of Ungoliant
i have a question for the candidates, then:

what do you plan to make better for all mooters?

Is anyone going to answer my question?

[Nurvingiel]

Sorry Chrys, I missed it in all the new posts.

It's hard to improve something great like Entmoot, which has been finely honed to its current excellence over the years.

However, we at the Council of Entmoot will strive to keep it as the most excellent Tolkien message board on the web by:
- Continuing to strive for good will among Mooters, which is something each member has worked toward in their time here
- We had plans to bring in a cool new smilie, but that's something bmilder has to do. We'll work with him on this.
- Promoting Entmoot and Tolkien to potential members not yet joined.

[Fat middle]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Sorry Chrys, I missed it in all the new posts.
- We had plans to bring in a cool new smilie, but that's something bmilder has to do. We'll work with him on this.
So that is part of your electoral programm... Very interesting. Very original! :mad::evil:

[Nurvingiel]

I know you were thinking the same thing FM, but we thought of the idea independently. Were you also thinking of an evil smilie?

Along the same lines, I was thinking of sprucing up the cool smilie to look more cool. There have been some complaints about that. I have some ideas.

[Lady Ravyn]

ooo! smilies! we need more of them! and, yes that cool one looks...odd... o.O maybe some animated ones? :D

[Bombadillo]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
I know you were thinking the same thing FM, but we thought of the idea independently. Were you also thinking of an evil smilie?

Along the same lines, I was thinking of sprucing up the cool smilie to look more cool. There have been some complaints about that. I have some ideas. Oh thank you so much! :cool: :D

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Bombadillo
... That's impossible. Everyone knows that Elves and Men can never unite again without contradicting Tolkien. I think I'll summon the Valar to forbid this from occuring. (I can do that now.) By Eru, it mustn't. :) Vote for Hector! :eek: Hey!

Can't we all just get along? :p :D

[brownjenkins]

all the social injustice going on in this world and you talk smilies!?!

i like it! :mad: :( :) :D

[Lalaith_Elf]

Okay pretty lame question coming up:

What's all the candidates view on spam/flaming etc.?

[Nurvingiel]

I think, as I'm sure most people do, that flaming should be stamped out! It is unnecessary and mean-spirited. All arguments should be resolved by PM, and people should try to remember that resolution happens more easily if people try to be kind, and avoid personal attacks.

As for spam, it is less harmful than flaming. However, it is annoying and pointless. That being said, there are some threads where the occasional bit of spam is appropriate (and is therefore arguably not spam).

Cheers, Nurv

[Lady Ravyn]

i agree, nurv. to me, there are several different kinds of spam, and some are REALLY irritatinf, while others are only mildly annoying. it would be cool if someone could see the difference between them (not to say our mods don't usually see it... the difference i mean; between kinds of spam...oh never mind...*tries to get foot out of mouth...:p )

[Nurvingiel]

No, I know what you're saying Lady Ravyn. I think mods and admins can differentiate between the two, they let harmless spam slide when appropriate.

[hectorberlioz]

My Dear Fellow Mooters,
To say that one Mooter loves Tolkien more than another is a crime against Mooters.
All Mooters are equal in Tolkien's eyes, as well as in mine.
My duty to the Moot is long overdue.
The joys that this message board has to offer I have taken; and I feel it my duty and responsibility to take my own joy and double it, and return the joy twofold, no, even triplefold, to this wondrous Tolkien-loving board.
I admit, I am not too keen on "real" politics. But does this board need "real" politics? What are "real" politics?
All I know to rule by is my logic, my trust in the good judement of my fellow Mooters, my own good judgement, and my trust in God.

I promise you, a more sincere and straightforward (that speech was straight from the heart!) presidential candidate you will not find.


I trust you will vote for the candidate you know who will keep good his promises, make peace where needed, and who will rule with an open mind and fair judgement.



[edited for typos]

[Drgnslyer]

Well said Hector, I don't know if anyone, especially another candidate could put it so simply yet eloquently. *applauds while magically waving his standard with no hands*

[Fat middle]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Eh? Why are members of the parties allowed to vote? If they're running for VP or minister of some-such related garbage, then they shouldn't be able to vote!

I want only say that the Electoral College has decided to make it clear what was already said in the rules of the Election (see announcemets): all qualified members are allowed to vote. That means that candidates are allowed to vote.

The candidate that receives more votes will be the President, no matter the margin he obtains to the second one.

[Drgnslyer]

*Prepares to vote for Hector*

Even tho I was initially bias, Hector has done an incredible job in showing why he is simply the best person for the job.

[hectorberlioz]

Originally posted by Drgnslyer
*Prepares to vote for Hector*

Even tho I was initially bias, Hector has done an incredible job in showing why he is simply the best person for the job.
I am glad you think so:D

[Nurvingiel]

I agree! Even though your computer was kaput for a week, you're still the only presidential candidate that has put any real effort into campaigning.

No disrespect to the other candidates is intended, I'm just pointing out what I see. If I've missed someone, now's the chance to set the record straight.

[Bombadillo]

Yeah, speaking of which, wasn't Jonathan supposed to come back 1 week later? And it's been at least two. Hmm... maybe he's actually counting on JD being allowed to campaign for him in the Official Debate.

[Nurvingiel]

Well JD can campaign for him here. He is busy developping a website and probably other things. Lots of RL going on! However now that Hector's computer is working, he's still campaigning though I'm sure he's busy with school.

[hectorberlioz]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Well JD can campaign for him here. He is busy developping a website and probably other things. Lots of RL going on! However now that Hector's computer is working, he's still campaigning though I'm sure he's busy with school.
ahem:o trying to be busy with school;)
Its mostly that my parents dont want me on the computer all day, and that I have to work on weekends....But I'll definitely have more time this week.

btw everyone! my shipment from amazon.com comes tomorrow!
The Insulted and the Injured, by dostoyevsky
la enfance du christ, an oratario by Berlioz...lots of other great music:D

[Drgnslyer]

So Hector, would i possibly be worthy of being the offical standard bearer of your campaign?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Last Child of Ungoliant
i pledge allegiance to the council of entmoot

my vote goes to hector

it would be wise, my friend, to join with him, we must join with hector


im still giving out free bottles of the old winyards,
vintage 1447, a very good year, laid down by my father...

Being new here, don't you think this is a bit... hasty?? Maybe best to get to know some of the other candidates as well, perhaps? Then you may be better able to decide from among them.

Some have refrained from active campaigning initially... don't mistake this for lack of interest, aptness or ability. :)

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

i dont mind being hasty for i am no ent

do not mistake me for someone who does not already know the ins and out of politics

having stood as chairman, treadsurer and secretary of various student bodies
chief steward, asst secretary and committee member of various canine societies
and, in real politics, i stood for my county as an MYP

[Nurvingiel]

Besides, if you identify well with a party who is actually campaigning, why not vote for them? ;)

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

precisely nurv, i couldnt agree more

[Bombadillo]

Well, technically, if you consider yourself political and want to identify with your candidate, Jonathan would probably be the one to vote for, being the best friend of JD and nominated by JD. But Hector's better, even though I feel kinda bad because I supported them in the beginning, and Rad's my friend.

Hey, check it out, I'm vulnerable and may be easily swayed yet. When are you coming out, Jon, SGH, FF?

[hectorberlioz]

Originally posted by Drgnslyer
So Hector, would i possibly be worthy of being the offical standard bearer of your campaign?
I thought you already were the official standard bearer;)


Oh, Bombadillo, dont think that you are free to change sides...Falagar is more than just the internal affairs minister;) , heehee....:p

[Bombadillo]

That was before I noticed you guys really got the smilie!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

And that was what, half an hour ago? You work fast, Hector.

It was also a little subliminal lure to get SGH out here before she pulls something unpredicted on election day, which is drawing nearer. ;) But now that you've got the smilie, I give up: You Win.

:evil: :evil: :evil:

[hectorberlioz]

wow! a new smilie!
looks like Nurvingiel managed to convince the "higher" mooters gods.

:evil:

[Bombadillo]

:eek: That would've been perfect at the end of this sentence:Originally posted by hectorberlioz
Oh, Bombadillo, dont think that you are free to change sides...Falagar is more than just the internal affairs minister;) , heehee....:p :evil:

[Nurvingiel]

Yea! I had no idea bmilder would work so fast! :evil:

Edit: I should add, that this goes to show that "The Council of Entmoot" keeps its promises!

[hectorberlioz]

Originally posted by Bombadillo
:eek: That would've been perfect at the end of this sentence::evil:

here ya go then...
Oh, Bombadillo, dont think that you are free to change sides...Falagar is more than just the internal affairs minister , heehee....
:evil:

To Tell The Truth, I'd say my team is doing an the best job campaigning.
Nirv, MSN!!

[Lady Ravyn]

yay! a new smilie! i hope you get all your campaign promises through so quickly, hector!

oh, and of course: mwahahahaha! :evil: :evil: :evil:
lol

thanx, bmilder!:D ;)

[BeardofPants]

A new smilie? Heh heh heh. :evil:


But what about a new 'cool' smilie? That one sucksass. :rolleyes:

[hectorberlioz]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
A new smilie? Heh heh heh. :evil:


But what about a new 'cool' smilie? That one sucksass. :rolleyes:
now BoP, what happened to that little answer that my little question needed? eh?:D

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
But what about a new 'cool' smilie?
Actually I've been working on one, I'm still tweaking my design. I hope it gets implemented as quickly as the evil one did, thanks bmiler! FM also helped me too, I didn't know it, but he proposed addidng another smilie too. :evil: <- my design though, simple yet effective.

[Artanis]

Oh isn't this perfect? :evil:
Soo perfectly ... evil. Heh. :evil: :evil:

[BeardofPants]

Hehe. doesn't it remind you of wayfarer's smile:

]: )

[Finrod Felagund]

:evil:

Oooh...evilness

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Bombadillo
Yeah, speaking of which, wasn't Jonathan supposed to come back 1 week later? And it's been at least two. Hmm... maybe he's actually counting on JD being allowed to campaign for him in the Official Debate. He's back from vacation, I'll poke him with a stick and make him post. :D

Don't worry, though, you will have a very strong VP, should we be voted into office. :)

EDIT: He's working on a school paper. :rolleyes: Where are his priorities?

[Nurvingiel]

I just want to apologize for a misunderstanding about the evil smilie. I did design a smilie just like this :evil:, but apparently, I actually didn't have anything to do with the new smilie. It was possibly Fat Middle, he was actually involved with the project. I emailed him probably quite near to when they were ready to add it, so it appeared to me that they were using my idea, when really, they were using their own idea that I thought of independently sometime after. :o

[Fat middle]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
I actually didn't have anything to do with the new smilie.
Actually, you did have something to do with it. Your email helped me to retake the idea we had have a month ago and to put Ben to work in it. :)

[Valandil]

Now, MY candidate has hesitated to thrust herself forward, but almost all of you know her quite well! As she has always demonstrated by her kindness, helpfulness, patience, maturity, wit, sense of humor, knowledge of JRR Tolkien's work and commitment to this board, I think there could be no better candidate for President of Entmoot than Sister Golden Hair!!! :)

Some may wonder why, as admin, she should desire to be President. We can let her speak for herself on that one. However, some of her opponents, I fear, have planted notions that she's scheming to make some sort of 'power grab'. What a silly notion! As an administrator - and arguably the most visible admin present on the board - she has consistently demonstrated responsible use of power. That speaks volumes!

[Beor]

Arguably the most visible, but definitely the most active, and when has she ever used the power she already has inapproiately? She hasnt, that is the answer. Sister Golden Hair has always been a constant source of support for the entire population of the Entmoot, and she has always been dedicated to running a smooth, appropriate board, and has been whole-heartedly dedicated to making this a comfortable and accepting place to be.

I would say that as an admin, she has already demonstrated to everyone why she should be president, as she already has more of the level of responsibility on her shoulders than she would need as president, and we have all seen this on several occasions. This election, to not give Sister Golden Hair your vote, would be like not listening to Gandalf's wise advice. Vote for the candidate that has been pulling the weight of a President all along, vote for Sister Golden Hair

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by Fat middle
Actually, you did have something to do with it. Your email helped me to retake the idea we had have a month ago and to put Ben to work in it. :) Thanks FM. :)

Welcome to the Open House guys! It's nice to have representatives from other parties in here. Previous questions that have been asked include, "What do you feel about spam?" as well as Tessar's excellent list of questions (from the Presidential debate thread.)

I don't think you could say SGH is the most active campaigner, but she's done a lot for the board and has been around the longest (of the candidates) as well.

[Finrod Felagund]

Hmmm...It seems everyone is letting their VP's do all the talking. Well I'm here, and I think you all know me well enough to know that I care only for the well-being of Entmoot and the furthering in the world of Tolkien knowledge. And to enlighten "movie-only" fans to read the books!

[Drgnslyer]

Those are very valuable qualities Finrod, and definately needed to be President, however those are echoed through all the candidates...in order to really seperate yourself from the field you need to be unique, and have a responsible staff to help yourself....running a one man show can be seen as not willing to work in a team, as well with any workload it's more effecient to distribute it amongst a few capable people to get the highest quality work done.

Just some food for thought for all candidates.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel


Welcome to the Open House guys! It's nice to have representatives from other parties in here. Previous questions that have been asked include, "What do you feel about spam?" as well as Tessar's excellent list of questions (from the Presidential debate thread.)Thank you Valandil and Beor.

To comment on the spam question: As an admin and former super mod, it has been my job to make Entmoot spam free. As we all know though, some spam is inevitable. It is important not to be heavy handed as long as it is not taken to extreams. Just like threads veering off topic, there must be some allowances within reason, without being heavy handed. As your president you are guaranteed with me that your rights as a mooter are protected under the rules and you are guarenteed the right to post freely without fear of reprimand or ban without due process. You can be sure that I am always here to help as admin and to fairly represent you to the Entmoot staff as your president. And although I am an admin, I am a mooter first.

I don't think you could say SGH is the most active campaigner, but she's done a lot for the board and has been around the longest (of the candidates) as well. Thank you Nurv.:) I will be answering Tessar question soon.

[Finrod Felagund]

I never said I wanted to do it alone. I am always in need of assistance as any president should be!

[Jonathan]

Alright, there hasn't been much campaigning from my side the past few weeks. But that's going to change, from this moment I'm in the presidential race for real.

I've answered Tessar's questions in the The Official Entmoot Presidential Debate (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=345600#post345600) thread. I will answer any further questions here as well as debate with the other candidates :)

http://my.hsonline.net/~rrosetta/entmoot/jonathan/jon1.jpg

[hectorberlioz]

we should've called this thread The Candidate Opera House, instead of open house:p

[Nurvingiel]

Well I wouldn't mind hearing you sing opera, but I'm not going to go there. :D

We need a new question or issue... I hope Mooters aren't losing interest in the election.

[BeardofPants]

So Jonathan, your idea of campaigning is posting a whole bunch of doctored pictures? :evil: :p

[Lizra]

It's what he does best! :D Let's see some more Jon!

[Jonathan]

Who says they are doctored? :p. Anyway doctored pics seemed to be popular in the past *stern look at BoP*, so why abandon a winning concept? ;)

I guess the pics will have to do for now, at least until I and the other candidates start debating.

http://my.hsonline.net/~rrosetta/entmoot/jonathan/jon5.jpg

[Linaewen]

Yeah, where are all you other candidates and your campaign pictures? How do we know whether you smile and shake hands and kiss babies and all that? :D

-------

A question I'd like to put forward to all candidates and/or their campaigners. (If it hasn't already been done) What have you contributed to Entmoot, and what can you contribute to Entmoot, as President? I don't mean the usual blah like 'I will make Entmoot a friendlier place' and stuff, I mean, how can you make ME happy that I voted for you? How will you make it fun, or more interesting?

Also, why exactly do you want to be President? (I wonder what ulterior motives you all have, except for Jonathan :D)

[Fat middle]

Originally posted by Linaewen
Yeah, where are all you other candidates and your campaign pictures? How do we know whether you smile and shake hands and kiss babies and all that? :D

-------

A question I'd like to put forward to all candidates and/or their campaigners. (If it hasn't already been done) What have you contributed to Entmoot, and what can you contribute to Entmoot, as President? I don't mean the usual blah like 'I will make Entmoot a friendlier place' and stuff, I mean, how can you make ME happy that I voted for you? How will you make it fun, or more interesting?

Also, why exactly do you want to be President? (I wonder what ulterior motives you all have, except for Jonathan :D)
Yeah. And I'd like also to know why all you think that the others should not be President. A proper campaign is more about bashing other candidates than deffending ideas. You're all too polite to become President :p

[Sister Golden Hair]

In the 'entmoot presidential debate' thread, the poll is titled: "who loves Tolkien the best." Well if you love Tolkien, you are probably knowledgeable about the world of Middle-earth.

I thought we could add a little more fun and challenge to the election. God knows it needs it.:rolleyes: I'm not sure when this poll closes, but I thought it would be fun to test the winner's knowledge of Tolkien. This would also show if the winner deserved the win. We, or someone could write up a series of question from several of the books, LotRs, the Silarillion, Unfinished Tales, and let the winner answer them. we would of course have to trust them not to cheat by looking up the answers. Say a series of 10 questions. What does everyone think?:)

[Nurvingiel]

I'm not just saying this because I know you're more knowledgable than me, ;) but love of Tolkien isn't solely based on knowledge. It also depends how long you've had the opportunity to read the books. A 15-year-old has had at most seven or eight years, while a 35-year-old could have been reading the books for over twenty years.

But a quiz sounds fun! Is Tessar going to write it? He's good at stuff like that. (I assume you've already answered his first questionaire.)

Cheers, Nurv

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
I'm not just saying this because I know you're more knowledgable than me, ;) but love of Tolkien isn't solely based on knowledge. It also depends how long you've had the opportunity to read the books. A 15-year-old has had at most seven or eight years, while a 35-year-old could have been reading the books for over twenty years.

But a quiz sounds fun! Is Tessar going to write it? He's good at stuff like that. (I assume you've already answered his first questionaire.)

Cheers, Nurv Well, I don't think you can truly be a lover of Tolkien, and then not know things. I am not talking about being one of the big scholars, but an average Tolkien fan, that would not just be limited to LotRs, but would probably exclude the HoMe series.

I have answered Tessar's questions, yes. Tessar could write it if he wishes, but they have to span at least those three books, and I think 10 questions are good enough. It would be after the poll closes, but I don't know when that is. Right now, people may still vote. Hector is leading with 7 votes, while Jonathan trails with 4.