LotR remake crew and plans

[hectorberlioz]

Alright now. I've decided to remake lotr myself. and I need a crew.
I'll direct and I need sub-directors and producers and script writers and so on.
Even if this doesnt happen, its still fun to pretend.
If your going to post something argumental about lotr not needing to be remade. dont post it. this will NOT become an arguement thread.

Remember, its mostly for fun. so no reason to start arguing.

[LuthienTinuviel]

i shotty asst. director!:D :cool: :D :D

[hectorberlioz]

alright Luthian is my assistant director then. welcome aboard

[thranduil]

I have plenty of high quality cameras and editing programs. Since I have made movies myself. I can help screen write, cameras, and editing.

[hectorberlioz]

Ah! just what we need.:) I still dont know how to use my Showbiz program properly yet. but its a semi/amateur program anyway.

[Beor]

If you need any set designers or somebody to make minatures, I'll hop on board. I'm pretty good with puttin' stuff together.

[hectorberlioz]

of course:) .

[thranduil]

I'm up for the hobbit. And then one movie for each book. So what 7 movies total?

[hectorberlioz]

I'm thinking 5 hrs each movie.
2 and a half hrs. each part book(book in the books ya know).

[Falagar]

Oh, I want to be Legolas! ...if I get all the screaming fangirls. Aragorn gets none. They're all mine. Mine!

[b.banner]

i would like to be frodo. that is if your not using real actors:D

[Earniel]

Originally posted by Falagar
Oh, I want to be Legolas! ...if I get all the screaming fangirls. Aragorn gets none. They're all mine. Mine!

Are we a little jealous, Falagar? ;)

[Falagar]

Originally posted by Eärniel
Are we a little jealous, Falagar? ;)
Noooo...He only gets to be king, marries a beautiful elf princess, has a large fan-base consisting mostly of girls and is increadibly famous. Why should I be jealous of him?

Plus, he's a spoiled little br...:mad: ;)

[Dúnedain]

I call Aragorn, I am tall and kingly :D

And I have the name for it :D

<---

[ayarella]

:cool: I will be Arwen. I am tall and graceful. :) Also, I have a very elvish air in my mannerisms ;)

[dawningoftime]

If your are in need of those who are skilled with audio editing and Folying, then I will gladly be willing to lend my skills.

[hectorberlioz]

all right people. I'm not looking for any actors yet.
Production plans come first.

dawningoftime. welcome aboard.

[ayarella]

Excuse me berlioz....i have no talents whatsoever but my looks and minimal acting skills ...what should I do to help!?;)

[hectorberlioz]

inspire people with your beauty:) . Tolkien would aprecciate it to.
*dramatic music follows*

[hectorberlioz]

we need people to scout out perfect locations for each different part of the story.
Is there someone out there that travels a lot?

[Falagar]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
we need people to scout out perfect locations for each different part of the story.
Is there someone out there that travels a lot?
I guess Galdhøpiggen here in Norway could make a nice Caradhras...

[hectorberlioz]

cool.(and i mean it;) , if you take my meaning). that'd be neat to go to Norway.

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Hmm. Before you get too far into casting you might consider Jerseydevil and Black Breathalizer as co-sub-directors and creative advisers to get a balance of book/movie elements in the series.
(The pre-shoot discussions would certainly be interesting).

[Falagar]

Originally posted by Tuor of Gondolin
Hmm. Before you get too far into casting you might consider Jerseydevil and Black Breathalizer as co-sub-directors and creative advisers to get a balance of book/movie elements in the series.
(The pre-shoot discussions would certainly be interesting).
...but extremely violent.

[hectorberlioz]

but I think I'll keep them both on leash's on the set.
I still need more sub directors....
I'll let JD and BB make a cameo in the movies. as two fighting dogs!:p (just joking around;) , no offense meant)

[Beor]

well, I already volanteered for the minature models and set designs, but I'll direct the initial shots that wse the minatures too, that way I can design them for specific shots myself,, and I'll know what areas to pay particular attention to. Also, the black hills of south dakota would be a good place to shoot the travel along the foot of the misty mountains towasrds the gate of moria, complete with wolves.:)

[hectorberlioz]

well, I already volanteered for the minature models and set designs, but I'll direct the initial shots that wse the minatures too, that way I can design them for specific shots myself,, and I'll know what areas to pay particular attention to. Also, the black hills of south dakota would be a good place to shoot the travel along the foot of the misty mountains towasrds the gate of moria, complete with wolves.

That'd be neat. wild wolves in it. untamed:D .
What part of montana? I was actually thinking Oregon for a couple of good misty mountain shots.

[Beor]

Yeah, oregon is good. Actually, looking west from the great plains, you can get some really good shots of the mountains, espiclally in yellowstone. Montana would be a good place for Rohan, and The colorado river would make a goods anduin (the mississippi would be okay, but there arent too many mountains. It would make a better sirion, but thats a different story...)

[hectorberlioz]

I was thinking of setting up a mount doom on the himalayas:p . no just kidding.

[Beor]

That would be really cold:) (no shivering smily face:) ) Where would be a good Mordor be, IYO? I'd say probably along the pacific coast, wherer the ring of fire (volcanos) is. There's really no suitable land,. Iraq is somewhat barren, but not covered with ash (and it might be a little dangerous

[hectorberlioz]

maybe we can get saddam for a cameo:p

[b.banner]

i will conduct the music:D .

[hectorberlioz]

i will conduct the music .
oh no you dont.
I,m planning on using various classical works.
Led by the great Claudio Abaddo.

[Beor]

Well, as far as that goes, I think that Lord of the Rings could use its own music. Classical music is very good, and there are many instances where there is already a song perfectly suited to the scene, but I think that its own music would make it that much richer. Howard Shore did a good job, and I think that James Horner would do very well (if you look past Commando), but B. Banner could take a shot too.

Modest Mussorsky's Night on Bald Mountain would work pretty good for Weathertop, though (IMO)

[hectorberlioz]

Modest Mussorsky's Night on Bald Mountain would work pretty good for Weathertop, though (IMO)
aha!
visited my 'Classical Music' thread in the enteratinment forum yet?

well, i'll let b.banner have a go at it....

[azalea]

I can't believe no one has taken the job I want: I would like to be a SCRIPT WRITER (write the screenplay)! With all the criticisms of the current movies, I figured this would already be taken -- but I imagine there'll be a few script writers, yes?:)

[thranduil]

i did. look at my post

[hectorberlioz]

no, we need more than one scriptman.
come aboard azalea:)

[Elvengirl]

I know you don't need any actors yet but...........oh well,

I call Galadriel!!


but for now I can help wherever needed, maybe costume or set designer

[hectorberlioz]

I know you don't need any actors yet but...........oh well,I call Galadriel!!
ok. i'll keep you in mind;)


but for now I can help wherever needed, maybe costume or set designer
i was waiting for someone to take that position.

[jellyfishannah]

I want set design!!!!!!!!!!!

[jellyfishannah]

hey! Whatever happened to my sig??:mad:

[b.banner]

I want set design!!!!!!!!!!! whatever anybody does i want to conduct.:D

[Elvengirl]

Originally posted by jellyfishannah
I want set design!!!!!!!!!!!

ok good I'll help, be your assistant or something

[hectorberlioz]

or we can have different set designers for different areas:)
elvengirl-moria,mordor,isengard etc.
jellyfishannah-hobbiton,rivendell,rohan,gondor....

[Elvengirl]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
or we can have different set designers for different areas:)
elvengirl-moria,mordor,isengard etc.
jellyfishannah-hobbiton,rivendell,rohan,gondor....

nono I'll take Rivendell, Lothlorien.......It's my birth right ;) :)

[Ornelírë Mistë]

I can be the sound editor! Please? I do sound tech stuff at school.

[Falagar]

Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rë Mistë
I can be the sound editor! Please? I do sound tech stuff at school.
I'll vote for you as linguist too. ;) :)

[Beor]

I'll also fill the spot as an angry guy with a boom mike that causes hilarious bloopers on the set, and all with my boom mike:)

[The Gaffer]

I'll offer to do a cameo as meself but you'll have to pay me in taters

[hectorberlioz]

I'll offer to do a cameo as meself but you'll have to pay me in taters
my mother makes real good taters:)

OM
I can be the sound editor! Please? I do sound tech stuff at school.
cool.

EG
nono I'll take Rivendell, Lothlorien.......It's my birth right
We all know you're a dark lord underneath;)

[Cassius]

I have hundreds of miniature army figures, I could help with miniatures!
I wouldn't mind being Gimli or a hobbit (I have experience as frodo and as Gimli), I'm not tall enough for anyone else :D

[hectorberlioz]

Oh yeah, we need cazillions of miniatures and miniature people(:p )

[Cassius]

Bwa ha ha ha! Short people rule the world!! :cool:

[hectorberlioz]

We need a special effects supervisor

[Elvengirl]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz

We all know you're a dark lord underneath;)


MWAHaha..ha...h....a..............nope doesn't work for me :D

[hectorberlioz]

hehe.
ok you get rivendell and shire etc.

[ayarella]

Hey berlioz...after much pondering i have decided i would like to do costumes and be the primary producer :) Do you approve?

[The Gaffer]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
my mother makes real good taters:)

Count me in! Can you get her to do the on-set catering?

[hectorberlioz]

no, she's to busy. I'll have to hire someone to do it.

[hectorberlioz]

Hey berlioz...after much pondering i have decided i would like to do costumes and be the primary producer Do you approve?
approved:)

[b.banner]

when does production start?:D

[Beor]

Probably whenever we find a way to get the cash. My wallets a little thin right now...;)

[hectorberlioz]

yeah, mine too:p

[hectorberlioz]

we need to get a studio to support us, and christopher tolkiens permission as well.
we should go with an unknown studio. they take big risks;) .

[Beor]

Thats a good Idea, because were probably a big risk ;) . And if we come with pitchforks and torches, Chris Tolkien will have to sign over some rights!

[hectorberlioz]

:p
yeah.:p

[azalea]

I don't think we'll need pitchforks -- I think he'll be so overwhelmed by how effective the screenplay (written, of course by me, and whoever else:D ) is that he'll beg us to get this made!:D;)

[Falagar]

I'll help you! :D But I still want to play Legolas. ;)

[hectorberlioz]

I don't think we'll need pitchforks -- I think he'll be so overwhelmed by how effective the screenplay (written, of course by me, and whoever else ) is that he'll beg us to get this made!
thats what I was hoping:D

I'll help you! But I still want to play Legolas.
werent you going to have another position as well?:confused: how are you going to handle/and or juggle all this stuff?

[Falagar]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
werent you going to have another position as well?:confused: how are you going to handle/and or juggle all this stuff?
Got a lot of sparetime on my hands. ;) Can't remember if I was going to do anything else...

[hectorberlioz]

Ok, here's the crew(will update when needed)

Hectorberlioz-director

Dreran the Green-trusted advisor and steward, and tree leaf putter onner.

Earniel- costume,makeup and set supervisor.

Gwaimir Wingem-Earniel's dim witted apprentice, and co-producer.

Luthien Tinuviel-asst. director#1

Finrod Felagund-asst dir#2, casting director.

Nurvingiel-asst dir#3

kiwi52291 asst dir.#4

ayarella-Producer

katt_knome_hobbit-prop asst.

Aragorn's dimple-feet gluer onner;)

jerseydevil- script supervisor

azalea-off. script writer

Telmelion Composer.

thranduil-film editor, camera agle man. and asst dir. of photography.

Beor- miniatures, asst set designer

dawningoftime-audio etitor

Varda Oiolosseo-Hairdresser

Falagar-legolas, and unofficial site scout

Elvengirl-set deigner for the good guy places, and galadriel

jellyfishannah-bad guy place ste designer

Ornelire Miste-sound editor, lingiust guy...

Gaffer-Gaffer

Cassius-asst. miniature guy

b.banner-condutor possibility, and frodo

Dunadain-aragorn

cassieopeia-casting director

BB-the guy who reminds us of what the book says. JD's assistant

,hope I didnt miss anyone;)
tell me if i did.

still need:
weapons trainer-

stunts-
stunt coordinater-

I'll think up more...

[b.banner]

b.banner-condutor possibility, and frodo yay!

[cassiopeia]

Can I be casting director if it hasn't been taken? Oh, and I'd like to be the one who puts on the hobbit feet. :D

[Black Breathalizer]

Black Breathalizer offers the film his services as a noted Tolkien Expert

[hectorberlioz]

ok cass:)

BB, you are the script guy who makes sure evrything gets in there.

[Ornelírë Mistë]

Originally posted by Falagar
I'll vote for you as linguist too. ;) :)
thank you very much.:) i know this is spam, so i'll make it not spam.

I will do language stuff, if you are in need. I dont know if Elf Girl has mentioned this, but she works in silver and could design jewlery if she wants. (I myself can't wait to take a metals class next fall...)

[Earniel]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
still need:
weapons trainer-
3 more asst directors-
stunts-
stunt coordinater-

I'd take up weapons trainer, but I'd only cut myself. :p

Do you still needs somebody for costumes design or something of that nature? That's more up my alley.

[Beor]

I'll be the miniatures director. Like I said, that way I can focus on what parts of the models to really pay attention to. And I still say we take pitchforks, if only to give it a little pizzaz. :D

[b.banner]

who will be the composer if i am the conducter:confused: :D .

[Falagar]

Perhaps we could get Blind Guardian to do some music? A choir would be of interest too.

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
but I think I'll keep them both on leash's on the set.
I still need more sub directors....
I'll let JD and BB make a cameo in the movies. as two fighting dogs!:p (just joking around;) , no offense meant)
You couldn't keep me on a short leash. You also forgot to include me in your listing of people. However, I am glad my reputation proceeds me. :) I will be overall supervisor - making sure everyone is bringing the book to life and not resorting to making a crap action movie. I don't want another movie with xena the elf or the wimp Aragorn. NO changes to Flight to the Ford - except maybe change Glorfindel (sorry don't think he's important to the story). :p

I will have my Lord of the Rings books handy to make SURE the movie captures the TRUE Lord of the Rings.

Also - I want another role. We can have BB as Saruman. I can be Gandalf - I'm wise and then I overthrow Saruman and I BECOME GANDALF THE WHITE. :D

I would be Sauron - but not interested in being a huge eye.

Oh - and falagar - don't think I didn't see this...

...but extremely violent.

It would be helpful if you remembered that. I haven't forgotten what you said on the newbie thread. :p

[Falagar]

But we need someone to play Sauron when he comes out of the Black Gate to fight Aragorn, man to man. And then, right before he (you) is about to deal the death stroke to Aragorn (without Anduril, which lies on the ground just out of reach), Frodo (being attacked by Ringwraiths on the edge of the crack of Doom) throws the Ring into the cracks from about ten metres (in slow motion of course) and Sauron (you) dissapears.


Just a thought. ;)

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Falagar
But we need someone to play Sauron when he comes out of the Black Gate to fight Aragorn, man to man. And then, right before he (you) is about to deal the death stroke to Aragorn (without Anduril, which lies on the ground just out of reach), Frodo (being attacked by Ringwraiths on the edge of the crack of Doom) throws the Ring into the cracks from about ten metres (in slow motion of course) and Sauron (you) dissapears.


Just a thought. ;)
If you are TRYING to get on my bad side - you're getting close to succeeding. :D

[Falagar]

Originally posted by jerseydevil
If you are TRYING to get on my bad side - you're getting close to succeeding. :D
I think I'll stop this now then, before it gets out of hand. ;)

We need more actors. Frodo and Sam, the main characters, aren't decided, and there many minor roles.

[hectorberlioz]

JD-I've been waiting for you to claim a spot.
so its script/movie supervisor then?
BB is going to be your assistant. His punishment ya know;) .


Earniel-k, i'll add you as costume and set supervisor( i think that space is open....)
b.banner-i'm still using classical for the score.

[thranduil]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
JD-I've been waiting for you to claim a spot.
so its script/movie supervisor then?
BB is going to be your assistant. His punishment ya know;) .


Punishment for what. Being right? JD needs the punishment.:D

[hectorberlioz]

whoa now! right about what?
JD's punishent is to have BB as his asst.
BB's punishment is to be JD's assistant.
they both are bieng punished;)

also, someone mentioned need of a choir.
well, i think that the london symhony choir will do quite well;) .

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
whoa now! right about what?
JD's punishent is to have BB as his asst.
BB's punishment is to be JD's assistant.
they both are bieng punished;)

The thing is - my assistant's role is to get me iced tea and stuff. "BB - I would like a large Wonton Soup, Steamed Dumplings, and I think this time - I'll have Beef with Broccoli." :D He has no input he's solely there to do my bidding and when I allow - he can watch a master (me) at work as I make sure the movie stays close to the book and yet is exciting and engaging and truly becomes a masterpiece. :D

[hectorberlioz]

so he is actually your apprentice:)

[Earniel]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
Earniel-k, i'll add you as costume and set supervisor( i think that space is open....)

Woohoo! Niiiice. :D

[Dreran the Green]

I volunteer to be another Asst. Director, and/or part of the camera crew, if that isn't filled up yet.:) Or i could help out building the sets, gluing all the silk leaves to the trees in Imladris, and such.

[Beor]

I say give her the job, Hec, thats a lot of leaves! ;)

[Elvengirl]

Originally posted by Beor
I say give her the job, Hec, thats a lot of leaves! ;)

I'll say. :D

I've decided I'd like to be in the orchestra to play the music for the soundtrack. :D Who's the composer or would anyone like to bring Howard Shore into this production. He wrote some beautiful music. :)

[hectorberlioz]

I volunteer to be another Asst. Director, and/or part of the camera crew, if that isn't filled up yet. Or i could help out building the sets, gluing all the silk leaves to the trees in Imladris, and such.
my second in command steward:)
my most trusted advisor.
and tree leaf gluer onner:D .

I've decided I'd like to be in the orchestra to play the music for the soundtrack. Who's the composer or would anyone like to bring Howard Shore into this production. He wrote some beautiful music.
tut tut;) . I've said before that the music will be classical.

[Beor]

If it must be classical, then it must be classical, but then you might have to play the scenes to music, rather than the other way around. I say bring in some classical and some fresh, sorta mix it up a little :) .

[hectorberlioz]

hmmmm, youre right....
might use some classical material, but i think we'll need a composer...

[Beor]

Although, Sibelius' Finlandia would make a good intro, and filler for some parts, like Caradhras

[Dreran the Green]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
my second in command steward:)
my most trusted advisor.
and tree leaf gluer onner:D .


Yay! Thanks Hector:) I like the classical/fresh mix idea. Who can compose?

[hectorberlioz]

Yay! Thanks Hector I like the classical/fresh mix idea. Who can compose?
hard question:(
i'm not going to choose someone who's composed for film before though.
someone unknow-ish...

[Elvengirl]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz

tut tut;) . I've said before that the music will be classical.

umm did I suggest otherwise? of course classical/fresh music would be alright as long as it carries the the feel of Middle Earth. I just wanna play in the orchestra if there will be one. :D

[kiwi52291]

I will provide it! I will provide the cash...though I do not have the money:( (I can also be a size double for the...smaller...people:o )

[hectorberlioz]

umm did I suggest otherwise? of course classical/fresh music would be alright as long as it carries the the feel of Middle Earth. I just wanna play in the orchestra if there will be one.
pick up that instrument and start practicing;)
you'll be playing with the London Symphony Orchestra

I will provide it! I will provide the cash...though I do not have the money (I can also be a size double for the...smaller...people )
you are so nice:) :( .
I'll put you up as a asst. dir, if you want.;)

[Beor]

Hell, I'm sure we can all spare some cash, why leave the entire burdon on kiwi52291? ;)

[hectorberlioz]

lol, i was definitely not going to burden the whole on kiwi.
:p

[Beor]

I didnt figure we would anyway :D By the way, who is going to handle all that offical crap, like if we do get ol' Chris Tolkien convinced with the pitchforks, and other stuff like liscensing, you handlin' that Hec (if you dont mind if I call you Hec ;) )?

[hectorberlioz]

just Hector if you dont mind typing a couple of more letters;)

well, i'll handle some of that stuff. but i'll dump it mostly on the producer and a couple of secretaries.:p

[Beor]

Not a problem, Hector, my fingers work just fine ;) . Sorry about that.

So, who wants to be a producer?

Remember, everyone is helping with the cash, all that producer requires is a lot of pain in the butt paperwork! Yee-Haw!

[hectorberlioz]

thanks Beor:)

i've updated the list.
and remind me if i forgot anyone. :)

[Finrod Felagund]

Excuse me mr. Berlioz, but I was also planning on remaking Lotr and directing...

[hectorberlioz]

too late to gather a crew here isnt it?;) :p
you can be my asst dir #3 though.

[azalea]

I hate to say this, but in my screenplay, the music will be quite understated. No ruining it with an overwhelming symphonic soundtrack.:p I'm thinking more along the lines of small groups of harp, recorder, dulcimer, and voice, maybe an oboe, stuff like that.:)

[hectorberlioz]

no!
well i agree we should not overwhelm scenes with an overdramatic score. but we need vigor! drums,strings, trumpets, operatic choir yelling at the top of their lungs singing their love for LotR!
of course only in needed in certain spots;) .
i'll go with oboe, but lose the harp:p . i wont have that instrument in my movie.:D

[Beor]

I'll also fill the role of an extra that gets killed in any battle, or all of them, I'm not picky. That or a horse ;)

[Finrod Felagund]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
too late to gather a crew here isnt it?;) :p
you can be my asst dir #3 though.


Oh...okay!

Umm...are we gathering an all-star cast?

[Beor]

Nah, unless Hector wants to, but we got enough mooters who'll happily fill roles in the movie. Also, who needs 'em? :D

[hectorberlioz]

no, i'll be looking for people who really are into their characters well(or will become into them) i.e. Viggo? ;)
alrighty-o dunadain man, i'll add ya to my list (not the crew list...my hit list! bwahahahaah!!!!!!!! j/k)

[Beor]

Yeah, Viggo did a good job, but the mooters will be doing it for love of the books, not money (unless someone wins the lottery and can pay everyone);)

[b.banner]

no, i'll be looking for people who really are into their characters i am way into frodo you wont have to worry about me:D :cool:

[azalea]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
no!
well i agree we should not overwhelm scenes with an overdramatic score. but we need vigor! drums,strings, trumpets, operatic choir yelling at the top of their lungs singing their love for LotR!
of course only in needed in certain spots;) .
i'll go with oboe, but lose the harp:p . i wont have that instrument in my movie.:D

What!? Oh, I can see we'll be having some battles over this. I'm looking forward to it.;)
No, not Viggo! He did a good job for PJ's version, but for ours we need a different look. (Maybe I should ask to be involved in the casting as well?;) )

[hectorberlioz]

oh, i know we dont want viggo.
just someone who will get into his character like viggo did.
azalea-think you're gonna win this musical war eh?;)
forget it. i will rule out the decision. bwahahaha!!!!!!!!!!:p .

check pm box soon.

[azalea]

Yes, you will win, but I'll be so convincing with my ideas that you'll WANT to implement them.:D
BTW, I answered your PM. Great idea, that's exactly what I mean by making the music subtle. Let the work within the movie rather than making it almost a separate entity.

[Falagar]

I still want Blind Guardian to do a song...just a small one...not anything big...just a tiny song...pretty please? :rolleyes: <-bambieyes ;)

[azalea]

How about the end theme? If it really doesn't fit, it's better not to compromise the integrity of the film, but it could always be included on the cd as a "special feature.":)

[Beor]

Can Blind Guardian sing in elvish? That would be cool, also, Elvish Tool..;)

[Nurvingiel]

This is super cool! I want to be in it too!

I notice there's a script supervisor, and an official script writer, but no one to assist them in their daunting task!

Can I be the Assistant Script Writer? (And I wouldn't mind being an Elf extra later, if you need them.)

:)

[hectorberlioz]

I still want Blind Guardian to do a song...just a small one...not anything big...just a tiny song...pretty please? <-bambieyes
not if he sings for these genres..

-rap
-country
-heavy metal
-rock
-pop
or anything else outside of opera.

This is super cool! I want to be in it too! I notice there's a script supervisor, and an official script writer, but no one to assist them in their daunting task! Can I be the Assistant Script Writer? (And I wouldn't mind being an Elf extra later, if you need them.)
well....actually... Gwaimir is azalea's asst...
but i do need another asst director:D

[Nurvingiel]

Oh rats! I joined this thread too late obviously. But I'd love to be the asst director! I'm glad all the good jobs aren't taken. :)

Blind Guardian plays Progressive Metal, and you can download three really good songs of theirs at mp3.com

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/5/blind_guardian.html

I think they'd make good opening music, because during the film I'd be distracted by their incredible awesomeness and beautiful chords. I agree with azalea's idea of the film music being subtle - harps and oboes etc.

[hectorberlioz]

I think they'd make good opening music, because during the film I'd be distracted by their incredible awesomeness and beautiful chords. I agree with azalea's idea of the film music being subtle - harps and oboes etc.
no please, anything(in the classical category) besides harp.
I detest that instrument. and guitar too.
I wont have it in my movie.

VIVE BERLIOZ!

[Nurvingiel]

I play guitar! >:( But fine, I am only the assistant after all. I do think we should have an oboe solo in the part after Gandalf falls in Moria and everyone grieves that he's dead. That would be beautiful! (I would laugh at you if Berlioz ever had a harp in his orchestra, but I don't think he did.)

Have we decided all the things that have a higher priority than the music? On the other had, music can make or break a movie.

[hectorberlioz]

oh berlioz has some harp (i would know), but he uses it so wisely and subtly that its not annoying like most harp stuff.
I'll let harp in if we use it sparingly.
I'm adding you to the list now nirvingiel.(the spanking list! mwhaahahahahahha!)

[Falagar]

Blind Guardian plays Progressive Metal, and you can download three really good songs of theirs at mp3.com
Isn't it called power-metal? Anyway, they can make some slower songs too (like Lord of the Rings or The Bard's song)

[Nurvingiel]

I've heard it called that too, I just put what mp3.com said. Maybe it's the same genre. I think Hector has nixed all forms of guitar though, I still think he's missing out. :)

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
I'm adding you to the list now nirvingiel.(the spanking list! mwhaahahahahahha!)

What?

[Rían]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
i'll go with oboe, but lose the harp:p . i wont have that instrument in my movie.:D Hey! I play the harp! :p :) I think I can picture what types of harp pieces you don't like, but haven't you ever heard ancient Celtic pieces played on the harp? That's what I play, and it's gorgeous, IMO, esp. on the beautiful, deep lower tones (I don't like the higher tones so much). I think some Celtic-type music would be v. appropriate for LoTR. But that's just MHO :)

[hectorberlioz]

Nirvingiel-dont worry, i wont be giving the spankings. i leave that to SGH.

Rian-
I admire your harp playing, but I just dont see it for LotR.

[Rían]

OK :) *goes off to play a Celtic tune*

[Artanis]

I thought the harp was a typical Middle Earth instrument?
Imagine a scene from the Hall of Fire in Imladris, with lovely harp music and song. :)

[hectorberlioz]

:(

I just cant stand harp. I dont like twanging instruments.
i dont mind having a harp in lotr. but its going to have to be really small and quiet

anyway, a more subtle theme is needed for the evil/mordor theme.
i think violas, violens, and a single trumpet would be a great combination.

[azalea]

Don't forget, a good director must put his own personal likes and dislikes aside for the good of the project.;) Harps were widely used in ME. But that is not important at this point anyway. (Unfortunately, we will be a little at odds because of your strong love of classical music, and naturally you wish to make that a big part of the movie, whereas I see the music as something that should be used more sparingly in this case. Ah, well, it's an honor just to be involved in this project at such an important level that I can bear to defer to the director in these types of matters.:D But with kiwi as producer, you'll may have to defer on some things yourself!;) )

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by Artanis
I thought the harp was a typical Middle Earth instrument?
Imagine a scene from the Hall of Fire in Imladris, with lovely harp music and song. :)
I think that's the perfect place for it!

[Falagar]

I've some questions to ask the script-writers: What parts will you keep/throw away? Since the plan is to make a more accurate version than PJ's, we'll have to keep more to books, but there are still some scene I'm not sure will be good on the big screen (Bombadil is good in the book, but it'll take some seriousness away from the movie if we keep him...still, I can imagine him on the big screen).

Any ideas?

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Falagar
I've some questions to ask the script-writers: What parts will you keep/throw away? Since the plan is to make a more accurate version than PJ's, we'll have to keep more to books, but there are still some scene I'm not sure will be good on the big screen (Bombadil is good in the book, but it'll take some seriousness away from the movie if we keep him...still, I can imagine him on the big screen).

Any ideas?
I don't thihk Bombadil should be in there - but it would be cool to have a small thing with the Old Forest and Old Man Willow and the Barrow Downs (with Tom Bombadil). Overall - I think that Bombadil should be removed. He just doesn't fit in with the rest of the book and overall is a minor character.

[Nurvingiel]

Hmmm. That's exactly what Jackson did. I personally don't think his 'clean lift' was very effective. Our version of FotR could easily be 6 hours long, but who cares? It will be watchable. My vision is a movie not for the Un-Tolkienated. (You don't have to have read the books to enjoy our movie, just have the ability to watch a long movie, in parts, and stick with it over time.)

You of all people should support keeping Tolkien's characters. :)

The Old Forest and the Barrow-downs are an important part of the story.

[hectorberlioz]

it'd be great to have tom bombadil, but as JD said, he's not crucial to the story. though it would be interesting to mention him in the council.

harpists-vive berlioz!!!!!!!!:D . I really am sorry, Harp in after all.
I cannot allow it beyond lorien though. lorien has harp. thats it though.

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
The Old Forest and the Barrow-downs are an important part of the story.
I was basically saying keep the Barrow Downs and the Old Forest in. Even a small part of Tom Bombadil - but no need to go to his house. I guess I didn't make this very clear.

And I disagree that the movies have to be 6 hours long - to keep them closer to the books.

[hectorberlioz]

Don't forget, a good director must put his own personal likes and dislikes aside for the good of the project.
o wise and queenly azalea, hast thou not been my script writer, i would be lost as of now.
let your wisdom shine forth with glory!

[Rían]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
harpists-vive berlioz!!!!!!!!:D . I really am sorry, Harp in after all.
I cannot allow it beyond lorien though. lorien has harp. thats it though. Yay! Harp is in!
I promise to not twang :D

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
o wise and queenly azalea, hast thou not been my script writer, i would be lost as of now.
let your wisdom shine forth with glory!
Haha! :D

Verily, I will strive for such wisdom to fulfill my own duties!


Hey Rian, I'm glad the harp is happening. :)

[hectorberlioz]

verily I say unto Rian: "let your imagination do its best".
do to LotR as it has done unto you.

[azalea]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
o wise and queenly azalea, hast thou not been my script writer, i would be lost as of now.
let your wisdom shine forth with glory!

You sher talk perty.;)

Well, I'll have to consider the feelings of my co-writers, but I was going to keep Tom. It looks like the director thinks he could be in, so I'm going to write the scenes, and we'll make sure it works well within the rest of it all. I really want to see Goldberry and I think we could do a great camera shot of Tom's eye through the Ring. Basically, we'll err on the side of doing it all, film it, cut what is necessary for length, and include the rest on the extended dvd.
:p Since kiwi's footing the bill, money is no object, right?;)

[Rían]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Hey Rian, I'm glad the harp is happening. :)
Thanks, Nurvingiel :) I just love playing it - I could play for hours! And it's definitely the major elvish instrument, too - it's mentioned a lot in the Sil.

[Nurvingiel]

I think Tom Bombadil should be kept as well, for reasons I've already mentioned. :)

I had an idea - we should refer to our version as "Entmoot's Lord of the Rings" (as opposed to Bakshi's LotR, for example) and all put our positions in the movie in our signatures, along with a link to this thread. It will advertise our movie in other threads, and encourage other Mooters to come help us!

[hectorberlioz]

idee excellante Nirvingiel.

azalea-C'est Charmant Cherie.

Should we ditch the prologue thing? i mean its been done in every lotr version so far...
i kinda dont want it in. what do you guys think?

[kiwi52291]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
I'll put you up as a asst. dir, if you want.;)

Is it too late to accept?

[azalea]

Hector -- Oui.;)

I agree, no prologue per se, but I'll get back to you on this. There are things we'll include within the film at different times refering to earlier times, and probably some flashbacks. But I haven't envisioned the beginning scenes yet. BTW, where's our stipend? We scriptwriters can't live on nothing, you know.;)

[hectorberlioz]

kiwi-nope, still have room for one more asst director:) .

so sorry azalea, i wish i could get into some serious lotr, but im kinda sick...:( .....ok, i'll pm you about some stuff:)

let me stick kiwi on THE LIST first though...

[Rían]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
Should we ditch the prologue thing? i mean its been done in every lotr version so far...
i kinda dont want it in. what do you guys think? I think we should film the entire Silmarillion for the prologue ... :D


ok, ok, sorry :o *goes back to playing harp*

[hectorberlioz]

the sil would be a though film to make....
dont think i'd want to go into that territory....:D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
I think we should film the entire Silmarillion for the prologue ... :D


ok, ok, sorry :o *goes back to playing harp* :eek: What a horrible thought.:eek:

[hectorberlioz]

I think Rian was having some romancing thoughts of her bieng a particular someone in the prologue;)

[Nurvingiel]

I think we should do LotR first, then film The Hobbit as a prologue. Once we've honed our cinematic skills, we could spend roughly 10 years filming the Silmarillion!

Hey Kiwi! We're the team (plus Hector of course)! (If you still want to be Asst. Director that is.) :)

So does everyone want to do the signature thing? Show a little 'Moot Movie pride. Hm. Do you think " 'Moot Movie" should be our slogan? Just kidding! :D

[hectorberlioz]

we will be known as the greatest filmmakers of all time!
several bronze statues will be put up outsied the whitehouse in memory of us after our deaths.
and in all the capitals of the world!
and inscribed underneath: bow to this statue.

[Nurvingiel]

I was wondering where we should set the movie? I think we should choose one country for continuity purposes.

British Columbia would make an ideal location. In Vancouver, the established movie industry would give us the resources we need. Vancouver is surrounded by the beautiful Cascade mountains, covered with snow in the winter (Caradrhas). We have every type of ecosystem classification in the world, except tropical rainforest. We do have temperate rainforests, and the old-growth ones would make a perfect Fangorn! Last but not least, my hometown of Kamloops, would make an ideal Rohan. Kamloops is a beautiful grassland with rolling hills and Ponderosa Pine forests. There are also many ranches nearby where we could rent horses. Kamloops also has a strong film industry!

[hectorberlioz]

sounds like an exciting place!
i'll look up pics, if there is any availabe on the internet.

[Nurvingiel]

You may have found this already but...

http://www.city.kamloops.bc.ca/
http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/

Vancouver also has access to places like Stanley Park, Cypress Bowl (which is a provincial park in addition to a ski hill.)
And there are also two good bogs we could use for Dead Marshes Scenes.

And if you do an image search in google, you get a decent selection.

[Telmelion]

I havent posted at this forum for a while but this project inspires me! I'll gladly compose music. :)

[hectorberlioz]

oooo.....
Tell me, have you much experience with composing?.
i want timpani and trumpets in some areas.
contact azalea for moods you need to capture in the score.
alright i'm adding you to the list.

[b.banner]

when will we start filming?:D

[Varda Oiolosseo]

:eek: i can't believe i havn't been on this thread before!!!

It looks soo good and will be great!!

If you need any more help with the costumes then i will gladly be of assistence as i have mad a couple of elven, lotr based dresses before. :D

[Falagar]

when will we start filming?:D
We still need roles like Sam, Bilbo, Gandalf, osv, so I reckon it'll take some time. ;)

[Lollypopgurl]

I would like to help. I don't know if you have any director positions left but I have experience in directing movies. :) Scriptwriting, screenplay, editing or anything. :)

[Telmelion]

Yes, I do have some experience in composing...i performed some of my own music on the piano a little while ago.

I 'write music' in the sense of "thinking it up" all the time, but i'm too lazy and busy to write it down. :D I'd definently write it down if it gets played in a movie though

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by b.banner
when will we start filming?:D We also have to decide where we're going to film it. I'm going for British Columbia, especially Vancouver and Kamloops. (I already posted why.)

If anyone else has a place they think would be good to film, they should post a description and why they think it's good. Then we can make an informed decision! :) There's probably tons of great places to film around the world, but I would personally prefer a location that at least one of us knows well.

It's super cool we have you as a composer Telmelion! I think original music is the best to have as the main theme of a movie.

[hectorberlioz]

when will we start filming?
not for a long time.....
i can't believe i havn't been on this thread before!!! It looks soo good and will be great!! If you need any more help with the costumes then i will gladly be of assistence as i have mad a couple of elven, lotr based dresses before.
we're kinda filled up (i think) on the costume if im not mistaken. but we do need a hairdresser:D . if you see an open position(crew list is on page four) tell me, and i'll add you in.

I would like to help. I don't know if you have any director positions left but I have experience in directing movies. Scriptwriting, screenplay, editing or anything.
i'll check, and if i do i'll let ya know and add ya in there if ya want.

Yes, I do have some experience in composing...i performed some of my own music on the piano a little while ago. I 'write music' in the sense of "thinking it up" all the time, but i'm too lazy and busy to write it down. I'd definently write it down if it gets played in a movie though
ohmygoodness! a real composer!:D
ever tried writing a symphony?:D
i am really, really, into classical music.
Nirvingiel is right. it is best to have original music.:)
write away!

[Nurvingiel]

It seems like we might not have enough people to fill the major roles. IMHO, whoever has an off camera role should also double as one of the characters. What is LotR without Bilbo? Sucky, that's what! :)

[hectorberlioz]

true, true, but we have time for casting as we write the script and visualize stuff a bit.....

[Beor]

Well, its been a bit since I've been in here, seems like alot may have happened. Anyway, I was just going to say that casting shouldnt be a problem at all. I'm sure there are many people who would love to fill roles in the movies, and who would do a good job.

[b.banner]

cool can i be gollum to?:D

[Agalayth]

I write music. I may be 14, but I must say that some of the stuff I compose is damn good. Maybe I could help with the score.

[Dreran the Green]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
It seems like we might not have enough people to fill the major roles. IMHO, whoever has an off camera role should also double as one of the characters. What is LotR without Bilbo? Sucky, that's what! :)

True, true. I see a lot's happened. I haven't been on much lately, but I figured it was time to come out of the hole and say "Hi" to ya'll.

Anyway, I'd gladly double as a character! Has Lobelia Sackville Baggins been taken yet?

Also, have you talked stunt doubles yet? (like I said, haven't been on this thread in a while) I'm guessing we need a few.

[Varda Oiolosseo]

we're kinda filled up (i think) on the costume if im not mistaken. but we do need a hairdresser . if you see an open position(crew list is on page four) tell me, and i'll add you in.

yeah i'll do that :) Or anything else that's needed i don't mind :)

[Nurvingiel]

We do have roles in the film and many extras to fill as well! Hector, is it you, Kiwi, or I that is in charge of casting, or do we have someone to take on that role already?

I'll take on the task of getting everyone to a consensus as to where we should film the movie, if you feel we should decide that right away.

[hectorberlioz]

OMG! I forgot about a casting dir.!
I'll have to add that to the "need" list...
ATTENTION!: WE NEED A CASTING DIRECTOR!
anyway, yeah Nirvingiel, go ahead with the concensus thing.
I'll be hav9ing the final word on casting, with yours(Nirv;)) and azalea's second opinion. and of course i'll let the asst directors have a say too...

[Nurvingiel]

Yea! Thanks Hector.

Okay everyone, this is important. Where will our entire movie be filmed?

I expressed my personal preference of filming in one country, and my preffered location of British Columbia, Canada in this post: (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9538&perpage=20&pagenumber=9) I was wondering where we should set the movie? I think we should choose one country for continuity purposes.

British Columbia would make an ideal location. In Vancouver, the established movie industry would give us the resources we need. Vancouver is surrounded by the beautiful Cascade mountains, covered with snow in the winter (Caradrhas). We have every type of ecosystem classification in the world, except tropical rainforest. We do have temperate rainforests, and the old-growth ones would make a perfect Fangorn! Last but not least, my hometown of Kamloops, would make an ideal Rohan. Kamloops is a beautiful grassland with rolling hills and Ponderosa Pine forests. There are also many ranches nearby where we could rent horses. Kamloops also has a strong film industry! I don't want to dictate my ideas to the crew, I want the majority to agree on a good location. There are many beautiful and suitable places around the world besides my own country.

Here's another option, perhaps better than Canada: England! Or South Africa! (Tolkien lived in both these countries, and they are very picturesque.)

So what do you think? Throw out idea, opinions, brainstorms! All is welcome.

Deciding this is not yet urgent, but it would be nice to have this important detail settled.

[Finrod Felagund]

I may have said this aready, but instead of making three HUGE movies, why not divide it as Tolkien did, into six?


Third Assistant Director
FF


And may I say, with alot...A LOT...of make up, I could play a great Gandalf. No jokes!

[Nurvingiel]

I think that's a great idea! Maybe even more if we want to. IMO, better to have a longer movie than cut out something important.

Add "Assistant Director" to your sig! All the cool kids are doing it... ok, so far only Hector and I have put our titles in our sigs.

[Varda Oiolosseo]

I would but i don't know what i'm doing :rolleyes: lol

Here's another option, perhaps better than Canada: England! Or South Africa! (Tolkien lived in both these countries, and they are very picturesque.)

Yeah sounds good :)
Would there be another places we could relate to each place in Middle-Earth over here? A lot of them look the same to me (the uk) lol, actually there are some really nice places over here :)
South Africa i wouldn't know i only seen a couple of places from photos.

[Nurvingiel]

Are you from the UK? I'm not, but when I went there, I remembered significant differences between Wales, the south-west counties, and Cornwall. Plus, I'm sure Jersey, Yorkshire, and Scotland are again different.

[Varda Oiolosseo]

Yeah I'm from UK, i'm from Yorkshire, loads of countryside outside the cities, hey i'm thinking The Shire ;)

There are areas of York which are gorgeous and remind me of Rohan/Gondor. It's a very medieval city and has an old castle from these times.

[Nurvingiel]

Or old Roman cities like Chester. I was thinking Herefordshire for The Shire, because it's known as the most rural county in England!

[hectorberlioz]

anyone in the casting director role yet?
we still need one.
and

dir. of photography.
visual effects supervisor.
stunt coordinator
music editor
someone to glue feet on.

[thranduil]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
anyone in the casting director role yet?
we still need one.
and

dir. of photography.
visual effects supervisor.
stunt coordinator
music editor
someone to glue feet on.

so what am I? assistant director of photography???? And as I said I can edit. i.e. footage, titles, or even music. take me off script screenplay writer whatever. Not feelin that.:D

[hectorberlioz]

are you sure? ok. but im too lazy to go edit right now. i'll do it tomorrow....:) .

[Nurvingiel]

Hector, you're the casting director of the casting director! I made a pun. (It's because you'll assign someone to that role... ok, bad pun.)

People don't seem too excited about where the movie will be filmed, (except Varda Oiolosseo, yea) but it can be an ongoing project. Right now our candidates are:
1) Canada
2) England
3) South Africa
4) others?

Not necessarily in that order.

[hectorberlioz]

well your right, but i'm waiting till someone volunteers...
hey! Dreran might like this position....

[Varda Oiolosseo]

I don't mind what i do, so i will do anything that is given to me :)

Nurvingiel I'm thinking England would actually be a good place to set it.

Or old Roman cities like Chester. I was thinking Herefordshire for The Shire, because it's known as the most rural county in England!

Is it? I never knew that :) Yeah they sound good

[Finrod Felagund]

Well, if I can still be assistant director, I'll be casting director...I have acting experience...

[hectorberlioz]

oh, dear so much to do....., so little time before i have to be at work....

[Legoles]

]a chior would be in interest too

I'd like to be in this chior. I have a great voice[My styles: Opera, Jazz, Chior, Churchy, I can do almost anything a'sides pop. I have a pretty good range as well] . Hey, I may be 13, but still... international fame, here I come! Anyway, PM me if u need a example or something! I could also be an actor, if there are any spots left, since you are going to do Tom Bombadil scene, howabou' Goldberry?

Legoles

[hectorberlioz]

oh! how nice legoles. i'll add you to the crew list.
welcome to the crew!:D
hey, you famous already?

[Nurvingiel]

There are definitely roles you can still fill Legoles, Hector will help you on that one.

I think it's cool to have a choir, it goes with my appreciation of original movie music! :)

[hectorberlioz]

noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



:D :( :mad: :eek:
yeah, legoles, amybe you can be goldberry.:cool:

[Finrod Felagund]

Hey Hecto...can I be castring director as well?

[Nurvingiel]

Okay, I guess we won't have any choir music. :D

Yea! Someone wants to be Casting Director! But I won't speak for Hector on this one, that can be dangerous. (See above.) :)

[hectorberlioz]

Hey Hecto...can I be castring director as well?

sure. asst casting dir.

hey nirv, i was yelling because you had 999 posts at the time....

btw, putting your crew position in your sig is a must. you dont have to post a link though if you dont want to.

[Nurvingiel]

Well that's a relief about your yelling, I thought you were violently opposed to choirs. :p

[Legoles]

[violently opposed to a choir???]Hope not!!! [famous..]No.. not yet... haven't been discovered yet... :( [I live and breathe LOTR music.] Well, for the desert scenes in hte movie, u could go to Nevada. Lot's of desert... Just stay away from Yucca mountain. [If u live in the U.S. u'll know what I'm talkin bout.]

[Nurvingiel]

I ask the obvious question: What's on Yucca Mountain?

[Legoles]

Neaculear waste site. Very nasty. All Nevadans HATE SUNUNU!!!!

[Nurvingiel]

Nasty. Maybe we'll film Mordor wasteland scenes there. Not at the nuclear waste site though.

[Willow Oran]

Are there still positions open?
I'm willing to do:
Acting
Script editing
Assistent Directing of any sort
And if you choose to film in B.C then just come south to seattle where I can lead you to a whole community of actors who love LotR.

[Nurvingiel]

Hey, that's another great reason to film in this part of the world. Mt. St. Helen's could be Mt. Doom, and we could use the actual footage of it erupting for that part.

Check it out:
http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/mshnvm/

It could be filmed in Washington and BC! What do you think guys?

[Finrod Felagund]

I think maybe on Hawaii for Mount doom, it needs to be more fiery while mount St. Helens was more smoke & ash. And the volcanoes in hawaii are still erupting!

[hectorberlioz]

sorry for not keeping up to date over here, i'm really sick right now. and the only thing i usually on entmoot now is browse.....

hey Nurvingiel, take down names for positions for now.........

[hectorberlioz]

I think maybe on Hawaii for Mount doom, it needs to be more fiery while mount St. Helens was more smoke & ash. And the volcanoes in hawaii are still erupting!
i think thats a great idea. of course i'm not an expert of locations, so anyplace someone chooses is better that what i would choose.

p.s. dont forget to remind me if i need to add anyone to the crew list. i have a feeling i forgot someone, and i dont want to wake up dead one day because of someone's silent anger....

[Nurvingiel]

Take down names for what positions Hector?

I agree, Hawaii is the best of our practical options. (We could go to Sertzy (sp?), but that would be so hard.)

[Elvengirl]

Hawaii would be good for Mt. Doom, but it doen't have a Caradhras, there's no snow.

[Nurvingiel]

Well, we need a volcano for Orodruin, but the rest of the movie can be filmed in England or BC or whatever we decide.

[hectorberlioz]

*sigh* we need to seriously start looking for a cast.

i think it'd be great to have christopher lee as saruman again, if he wanted to take the role again that is. plus i think he'd support a truer version........

[Nurvingiel]

I agree with you, and I think Christopher Lee is an excellent actor, and played Saruman extremely well.

One small problem, is we would have to put a great deal of effort into making him not look a thing like Peter Jackson's Saruman. We can't copy, or seem as though we are.

Elements that we could include that would make him be different would be:
Saruman of many colours
A complete story arc, including Gandalf's confrontation with him at Orthanc, Wormtongue throwing the Palantir, and in RotK, Merry and co. meeting him on the road to the Shire.
His robes, beard, and staff could all be different.

But even so, people might see him as "that guy who was in Peter Jackson's movie." We should avoid having this ever.


I think we should find actors who have never been in any big movies before.

[hectorberlioz]

yeah, you're right. good thinking(something i need to do more....)

[Nurvingiel]

Lol Hector :D

I'm sure there's some less well known actors that would be good as Saruman. Maybe Christopher Lee could be his stage coach.

[hectorberlioz]

how do you like my avatar?
is it better than my other? if its not, im changing back ot my old one...

[Nurvingiel]

As I said in the Teacup cafe, I liked your old one better. This one is smiling, but his head is funny shaped. The stern-faced one is cool.

[hectorberlioz]

yeah, i replied just now. thanks.:)

[Katt_knome_hobbit]

I WANT TO BE INVOLVED.

I can do:
acting
costumes
props
camerawork
ANYTHING!

this is so cool

[dawningoftime]

We're going to need some more people to help with the audio production (then again it's been a while since I've been here so there may be more) but I can't do it all.

[Aragorns Dimple]

Can I be in charge of gluing the Hobbits' feet on them every morning at 5 am? Oh, and the rubbery Elvish ear bits too. I didn't think there'd be too many takers for this kind of thing
.... o_O

[hectorberlioz]

oh, yeah we need you Arg.dimple . hard stuff dealing with rubber feet. you better be prepared!:p

dawnof.t.-yeah, i realize we need more sound and audio people...
but maybe we should worry about that later.

katt_knome_hobbit-i'll put you as a props asst.

[Raistlin]

if you need help with any editing at all i am your guy

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by Aragorns Dimple
Can I be in charge of gluing the Hobbits' feet on them every morning at 5 am? Oh, and the rubbery Elvish ear bits too. I didn't think there'd be too many takers for this kind of thing
.... o_O (Can I call you Dimpy? :D J/K.)

Maybe you could be in charge of prosthetics. We might end up with a lot depending on how gross we want the orcs to look.

Personally, I don't think we should have too many special effects. Hobbit feet, elf ears, and the Balrog are key.

[Legoles]

The eil ears in LOTR are made of silicone. THye melt under stage lights or in heat, but they are very good. We are also gonna need someone to make/buy weapons. I won't be able to help much with that, cause I only have one sord[and its a prop, or at leastthe blade is extremelly dull

[Falagar]

We could just leave those Elf-ears be. I'm not saying that Elves don't have pointy ears (I personally believe they have) but it'll spare us for a lot of trouble! (not to forget costs) ;)

[Elvengirl]

You wouldn't have to worry about adding any point to my ears as they natually have them already. ;) :D

[Finrod Felagund]

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[azalea]

That post was off-topic, FF.:p ;)

[Nariel]

Okay, well I've been out of the loop for a while, but I would like to volunteer my assistance as much as I can, for this most noble of causes.

[SamNotSoWise]

Can I be Faramir? Sam is my favorite, but I don't look very Sam-like (too thin, and I refuse to shave my beard).

I am dark colored too, so my coloring is closer to what Tolkien described (raven) than pj's actor.

I promise to resist the ring!

[paraphrasing since I don't have the books with me or memorized]"Even if I saw this thing lying on the road I would not take it."[someone please correct my quote!]

Can Miranda Otto still be Eowyn?! I'm sure my wife would understand!

[SamNotSoWise]

Washington State and BC would be good. I grew up just north of Seattle.

Olympic National Forest would make a great Fangorn!

Mt. Rainier is my favorite, but I don't know how it could be used.

Before acting starts, I could help with computer technical support (that's my current living).

[Nurvingiel]

Though Miranda Otto was excellent as Eowyn, I think we should use unknown or non-LotR actors, otherwise we'll look like we're trying to emulate Jackson's movie.

[SamNotSoWise]

Yeah, I was just kidding about Ms. Otto. ;)

Oh, and I have some music experience too (singing and directing choirs) if that could be useful.

This is fun to pretend!:D

[The Gaffer]

Has anyone written the script yet?

[Nurvingiel]

Actually, no. The thread has wound down a bit, (okay a lot) but it would be nice to keep it going.

[Legoles]

Maybe an actor from one of those agencies
Y'know like Jhon Robert Powers[those classes are damn expensive]

'

[Finrod Felagund]

Well, i guess I could start casting eh? Should I open it to mooters as well?

[Falagar]

Would be nice if the script-writers could start working on a script and post it here. :)

[The Gaffer]

OK, here's the script outline:

Movie 1: Concerning Hobbits
Up to Rivendell, with lots of hobbity stuff and we keep Xena-Arwen, just to wind up the purists.

We insert:
- An opening scene with Bilbo & dwarves being chased by orcs; Bilbo and Gollum meet, Bilbo escapes, nearly gets stuck in the door then suddenly wakes up dreaming (it's 50 years later) about his past adventures, gets all panicky about the Ring (as per FOTR up to Shadow of the Past).
- a scene of Gollum hunting for Bilbo somewhere; perhaps could use the nifty Frodo/Smeagol parallels they used in TTT.
- THE GAFFER meets the Nazgul and gets all shirty
- Gildor et al

Movie 2: Concerning Rangers
Aragorn takes the initiative. The movie starts at Rivendell, with Aragorn and Arwen doing their thing, and ends at Dunharrow, with Aragorn confronting Sauron via the Palantir. Saruman is defeated and Gondor is besieged. Frodo is captured.

We cut that stupid scene of the collapsing stair in Moria, plus the stuff with Saruman and his "minions" at home. We cut most of the Battle of Helm's deep, Aragorn's fall and insert more detail on the Voice of Saruman.

Movie 3: Concerning Gondor (and more hobbits)
We open with Denethor's debate with Boromir and Faramir, putting the start of this movie around the same time as the start of Movie 1, and setting the scene of the Stewards. The battles commence, and Aragorn appears, fulfilling the prophesies of the King. We, of course, reinstate the Scouring, since "that's what [the hobbits] have been trained for", and especially THE GAFFER's disparaging remarks about weskits and wearing ironmongery.

[Finrod Felagund]

You mean we're not completely redoing it!?!?!? :eek: :mad:

NO XENA-ARWENCH!!!!!!!!!

[azalea]

Originally posted by Falagar
Would be nice if the script-writers could start working on a script and post it here. :)

Whenever my stipend arrives I can hire a babysitter and get cracking.;)

Actually, I had some thoughts about this. I think that it makes more sense to do a Hobbit screenplay. No one would take a second look at any LotR screenplay at this point in time, considering how popular the movies are. Anything like this is going to need to wait several years.

I think it would be nice to do a LotR one for fun, anyway, just for our own sake, so I'll put something together soon.:)

[The Gaffer]

Originally posted by Finrod Felagund
You mean we're not completely redoing it!?!?!? :eek: :mad:

NO XENA-ARWENCH!!!!!!!!!
Oh, yes of course, just using the existing script as a touchstone.

The main idea was that the three films should be differently themed: you've got the first one a "deliverance-style" hobbit adventure, the second one is your battle-fest and nobility-themed hero quest, and the third one plucks the "lose it to save it" tune.

I can see there being some heated script meetings...