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druss
05-02-2003, 07:38 PM
in between others..the ginger man by jp donleavy.
Hasty Ent
05-02-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Starr Polish
Siddhartha, by Herbert Hesse (?). It's...interesting.
Read that years ago, and I don't remember much, other than that it was OK. I liked Steppenwolf better.
It's Hermann Hesse, by the way. Did you know he was awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1946?
LadyGreenleaf22
05-05-2003, 09:03 PM
I just finished a few books a little while ago.
Two excellent books Crown Duel and Court duel, and one called The China Garden...all fantastic books
Shadowfax
05-14-2003, 07:55 PM
Almost finished "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", which we're reading at school.
Gwaimir Windgem
05-15-2003, 09:41 AM
Tolkien: Man and Myth by Joseph Pearce. Fascinating book which deals a good deal on Tolkien's view of myth. :)
Linaewen
05-15-2003, 09:51 AM
Still trying to read TT....actually I think it's more accurate to say I'm reading Entmoot, since I spend so much time on it. :p
Afterwards:
-Hobbit & UT
-Huck Finn (reread)
-Great Expectations
And then some books I will need to borrow from the library (those ones I own)
-Bryce Courtenay books
-Non-Tolkien fantasy, mebbe the Wheel of Time
-Harry Potter 5
Grey_Wolf
05-15-2003, 11:12 AM
At the moment I'm reading:
Churchill's History of English-Speaking Peoples 1: The Birth of Britain.
Edward Rutherfurd's London.
Michael Baigent's The Holy Blood And the Holy Grail.
and Herman Lindquist's History of Sweden 9: Dreams And Reality.
I just read a very funny book called Cad: Confessions of a Toxic Bachelor. I am trying desperately not to lose interest in The Corrections by Jonathan Franzen, the guy who got himself uninvited from Oprah's book list. Currently I'm plowing through all of Dan Savage's books.
Ruinel
05-17-2003, 09:27 PM
Three to Get Deadly by Janet Evanovich
Gwaimir Windgem
05-18-2003, 01:11 AM
Just finished Tolkien: Man and Myth. Beautiful book. :)
Am now commencing to read a pdf file of Dracula by Bram Stoker. I'm reading a pdf because I don't have the money to order it now. :p
Lalaith
05-18-2003, 05:52 AM
I finished "The fellowship of the Ring" three days ago (my third time reading it ... this time in english) and now I have just started reading "Owen Meany" by John Irving. A really lovely book.
I have been reading some strange things lately. I just finished Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code, which is just nutty. It's about the Priory of Sion, who guard the knowledge of the location of the Holy Grail, which is not a cup at all but the remains of Mary Magdalene. The Priory also guards the knowledge of the bloodline of Mary Magdalene and Jesus, which apparently is the Merovingian dynasty that ruled France before the Carolingians. And supposedly Leonardo Da Vinci was grandmaster of the Priory and left all sorts of Paul-is-dead type clues about Mary Magdalene in his paintings, which is why the Mona Lisa is smiling like that. And did you know that the planet Venus traces a perfect pentacle in the sky over the course of four years, and that's why the Olympics were (and still are) held every four years? And I'm currently reading Patricia Cornwell's Portrait of a Killer, in which she lays out a fairly convincing argument pointing to the artist Walter Sickert as the one and only culprit behind the Jack the Ripper killings. She seems very convinced that she's right.
cee2lee2
05-27-2003, 09:36 PM
I enjoy Sue Grafton's alphabet mysteries and just finished "Q is for Quarry."
Shadowfax
05-28-2003, 11:47 PM
I am almost finished "Fathers and Sons" by Ivan Turgenev (sp?). I like the characters--very complex and good for analysing. This is the first Russian author I've read and I could tell right away there was something different compared to British or North American authors (still can't quite put my finger on it though...). Anyway, it's pretty good, a short read (only 200 pages), and I'm almost done.
Linaewen
05-29-2003, 09:02 AM
Rereading the Hobbit, and the rest of the Tolkien books. I'm actually going to know Tolkien stuff now! Yeah!
HobbitChick88
05-29-2003, 02:02 PM
I just finished reading The Two Princesses of Bamarre by Gail Carson Levine. It's quite good, and has several twists in it :)
Radagast The Brown
05-29-2003, 03:42 PM
The Seventh Gate.
sun-star
05-29-2003, 03:57 PM
"Scenes of Clerical Life", by George Eliot. It's much more interesting than it sounds :D
Shadowfax
05-29-2003, 11:23 PM
I just finished "Fathers and Sons". A pretty good little book. If you want a good character study go for it.
Sicirus
05-31-2003, 01:34 PM
I have just gone to the library and was set loose in the fantasy section (trust me its pretty bad. So I* was limited *humph*
I have just finished a great Novel by Patricia Windsor called "The Blooding"
I am now reading "The Stones Are Hatching" by Geraldine Mc Caughrean
Then I am going to read "Blood And Chocolate" by Annette Curtis Klause
Then "The Squire HIs Knight & His Lady" by Gerald Morris.
I have a book for my project called "Tolkien's Ring" by David Day which ids very interesting and another book called "Finding God In The Lord Of The Rings." by Kurt Bruner and Jim Ware.
Agalayth
05-31-2003, 03:32 PM
I have just finished The Sight by David Clement-Davies, which was a very great book. I also just finished a short book called The Sunflower by Simon Weisenthal. I had to read it for Hebrew School.... :o Now I'm reading Shade's Children by Garth Nix, and will be reading Fire Bringer by David Clement-Davies shortly afterwards.
Baby-K
06-09-2003, 03:04 AM
Just finished The Wee Free Men by Terry Pratchett - what a wonderful book! I'm totally convinced that Coney is one of the Feegles! (ye'll understand if ye read the book) ;) :D This one I'd really reccommend to any of my friends
I've now started The Amazing Maurice & his Educated Rodants also by Pratchett (it's the first real 'children's book' he's written)as well as the New Believers (it's a book about sects, cults & new religions) and also Murder at Morija - it's a factual book about what happened at a missionary post in Lesotho in the last century when a French missionary was poisoned there during the Christmas dinner & the subsequent events etc (basically a true murder mystery being solved by the author). And just to confuse it all I'm reading Griet kom Weer, an Afrikaans book (gotta keep the roos ye know ;) )
Linaewen
06-09-2003, 05:36 AM
Well..I've interrupted my supposed 'Tolkien' stage to read a 'Teach Yourself' book on Swedish. I also bought a book today about Childhood memories of World War II, and another little book with brief biographies of 500 influential figures in 20th century history, so I'll be reading all of those too.
gimli7410
06-09-2003, 10:00 PM
rereading fellowship of the ring
Gwaimir Windgem
06-09-2003, 10:48 PM
Reading the Unfinished Tales. I got a lot read while at the doctor's office today, waiting for the guy to come. Finished the Coming of Tuor, and got a nice start on the Narn i Hin Hurin.
Sheeana
06-09-2003, 11:38 PM
Oooh, Narn i Hin Hurin is the best part. I envy you reading it for the first time.
Coney
06-10-2003, 06:10 AM
Stephen King - On Writing
I've taken a break from my writing, only to read how other people write :/
*going/gone insane*
Gwaimir Windgem
06-10-2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Sheeana
Oooh, Narn i Hin Hurin is the best part. I envy you reading it for the first time.
How about for it falling apart? :p
wahine
06-10-2003, 02:07 PM
The Stone Monkey--John (or Jeffrey?) Deaver
Sheeana
06-11-2003, 12:05 AM
I'm reading the Uncanny X-men series, or part of it anyway, and the second Thomas Covenant book, curse his name forever! :mad:
Linaewen
06-13-2003, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
How about for it falling apart? :p
Hehe. Well, my UT is in perfect condition, and the whole thing remains unread. I get to read it for the first time soon! Wheee!
I've interrupted those other books, to read 'Night' by Elie Wiesel, a survivor of the Holocaust. Gripping, and very very sad. :(
Shadowfax
06-14-2003, 11:01 AM
Right now I'm reading "JRR Tolkien: A Biography" by Humphrey Carpenter. I really am enjoying it.
sun-star
06-14-2003, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Shadowfax
Right now I'm reading "JRR Tolkien: A Biography" by Humphrey Carpenter. I really am enjoying it.
I enjoyed that book too. It's very interesting.
cassiopeia
06-15-2003, 01:41 AM
I'm reading The Sword of Shannara by Terry Brooks. Apparently it's a shameless rip-off of the LOTR. I'm not sure I like the style of his writing, but I'm interested to see how it ends, so I'll keep reading.
Shadowfax
06-15-2003, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by cassiopeia
I'm reading The Sword of Shannara by Terrry Brooks. Apparently it's a shameless rip-off of the LOTR. Yes, I've heard that its a LotR rip-off too.
Salquënòrëwen
06-15-2003, 03:26 PM
I'm reading RotK for the 2nd time :D
Ararax
06-15-2003, 04:42 PM
ok some girl i know said that if i read the giver she will read the hobbit, soo im going to read it but jsut askign if anyone has already and how is it?
and not the hobbit lol ive read that many times :D
Khamûl
06-15-2003, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by cassiopeia
I'm reading The Sword of Shannara by Terrry Brooks. Apparently it's a shameless rip-off of the LOTR. I'm not sure I like the style of his writing, but I'm interested to see how it ends, so I'll keep reading. Oh don't worry, it's a complete rip-off, except for the ending. At least Brooks didn't steal LotR's ending. I still enjoyed it though.
I'm reading The Sum of All Fears by Tom Clancy right now. I've seen the movie, now I want to read the book. The books are always so much better.
Thorunn
06-16-2003, 09:33 AM
I'm reading The holy road by Michael Blake and just wondering how much of it is true.
wahine
06-16-2003, 11:26 AM
Khamul,
I tried to read the Sum of all Fears, but military (sort of) genre's aren't my thing. Couldn't get past the middle, although I'm THAT was the most interesting part. :p Stick to the movie ;)
Shadowfax
06-16-2003, 10:48 PM
Finished JRR Tolkien: A Biography, and now I've just started Letters of JRR Tolkien. Ooh, I'm excited!
Jonathan
06-17-2003, 04:29 AM
I finally started reading a book by Tom Clancy; Rainbow Six.
Reading it in English and all :)
Coney
06-17-2003, 06:32 AM
The Secret Diary's of Adrian Mole - Sue Townsend :D
First read these when I was a kid..............was a nice surprise when I found that I still had copies hidden in the back of a cupboard :)
Baby-K
06-17-2003, 07:34 AM
I'm now reading 'First Embraces' it's a collection of true stories edited by Lindsey Elder, written by several different women about their first lesbian experiences. Quite an intriguing read.
Grey_Wolf
06-18-2003, 06:55 AM
I'm beginning to re-read my Clive Cussler novels (got all the Dirk Pitt-ones). Am also reading a Star Wars novel: Planet of Twilight (am book for book reading thru my SW-collection). Am also read-ing Ludovic Kennedy's Menace: The life and death of the Tirpitz, finishing off Edward Rutherfurd's London and Churchill's History of English Speaking Peoples I: The Birth of Britain.
IronParrot
06-20-2003, 01:08 AM
Grey_Wolf, you should meet my dad - he's nuts about Cussler.
What I am reading: well beginning tomorrow night, I will be spending all my time on The Order of the Phoenix. What an exciting time to be alive. :)
Sheeana
06-20-2003, 01:28 AM
Waaaahhh! I'll have to wait... *counts on fingers* ... nine hours before I can read it! :( Stupid work. :mad:
cassiopeia
06-20-2003, 11:44 PM
I'm just reading a little book called Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Sorry, can't help bragging. :D The first few chapters are so GOOD!! Nice surprises... I won't give anything away...:p
TheWhiteRider
06-21-2003, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by Jonathan
I finally started reading a book by Tom Clancy; Rainbow Six.
Reading it in English and all :)
That book is so good. I read it three years ago I think, and I loved it.:)
Gwaimir Windgem
06-21-2003, 01:16 AM
I'm reading The Ring of the Dark Elves by Victoria Randall, our very own Entlover. So far, 'tis quite good, indeed. :)
Linaewen
06-21-2003, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by cassiopeia
I'm just reading a little book called Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Sorry, can't help bragging. :D The first few chapters are so GOOD!! Nice surprises... I won't give anything away...:p
Are you insane, Cassi? *shakes head* You get to read HP 5 and you're on the internet?! I'm no longer convincing myself that I'm not desperate to read it- just wait a week till my birthday, when people will give it to me. :p No need to wait in a queue, and I can read the first four 'til then. (For the umpteenth time)- to get in the HP mood.
Also, reading 'Elli' by Livia Bitton Jackson. Very good thus far.
And I'm half-surprised that you like Harry Potter, Sheeana. I thought you hated everything good except Tolkien. :D
sun-star
06-21-2003, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by cassiopeia
I'm just reading a little book called Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Sorry, can't help bragging. :D The first few chapters are so GOOD!! Nice surprises... I won't give anything away...:p
Me too, me too! It's so exciting! :D
Salquënòrëwen
06-21-2003, 12:11 PM
I'm reading the OotP too! It's really good so far! :)
Earniel
06-21-2003, 01:43 PM
Just packed my books for holiday. :) 24 books for a month in more southerly regions. JJR Tolkien, Philip Pulman, Isaac Asimov, Jack Vance, Jean Auel and others. Yes, I'm set. :D It'll be no wonder you won't be seeing me around here for july.
Gwaimir Windgem
06-21-2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Linaewen
And I'm half-surprised that you like Harry Potter, Sheeana. I thought you hated everything good except Tolkien. :D
Naw, she likes Nosferatu. That was a good, artistic (if very inaccurate ;)) interepretation of Dracula.
Sheeana
06-21-2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Linaewen
And I'm half-surprised that you like Harry Potter, Sheeana. I thought you hated everything good except Tolkien. :D
Ah shuddap Erika! Just because I don't like Braveheart, or the LOTR movies, or the Wallabies does not make me snobby. I just have exacting tastes. *sniff* ;)
Gwaimir Windgem
06-21-2003, 05:46 PM
I certainly expect that he'd agree about the Comedia Jacksonia, as he has expressed...less than positive sentiment about it. ;)
Oh yeah, and she also likes GARFIELD! :D By the way, I found something (http://www.garfield.com/fandg/sheepshot.html) you might like. ;)
Shadowfax
06-21-2003, 11:44 PM
In addition to Tolkien's "Letters," I'm also currently reading Oscar Wilde's "The Picture of Dorian Gray," which I am finding quite shocking and depressing, actually (I'm almost halfway through).
Linaewen
06-22-2003, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
I certainly expect that he'd agree about the Comedia Jacksonia, as he has expressed...less than positive sentiment about it. ;)
Indeed I do. Just because I don't post ways to murder PJ more effectively & painfully does not mean that I like the movies. :D (TT especially)
Rereading Harry Potter # 1. I'd forgotten how funny it was. Bwahaha. Can't wait for the Order of the Phoenix to be given to me. :D
LutraMage
06-22-2003, 12:16 PM
Always seem to have more than one book on the go at a time. Am currently reading Robert Jordan's The Shadow Rising (No. 4 in the Wheel of Time' series - the blurb on the front says "Jordan has come to dominate the world Tolkien began to reveal", but I remain unconvinced. The book is okay, but the series is getting a bit 'samey'.
I'm re-reading The Hobbit (haven't read it for years, strayed into The Hobbit Forum and remembered how much I loved it as a kid, ended up digging it out and now v. much enjoying it.
I'm also part way through the begining of Tolstoy's War and Peace but finding it real heavy going - still, haven't quite given up on it yet.....watch this space!
Khamûl
06-23-2003, 12:17 AM
I'm about half-way through Order of the Phoenix. :D Everything else I was reading got put on hold.
TheWhiteRider
06-23-2003, 12:31 AM
I'm about half way through, too
IronParrot
06-23-2003, 12:58 AM
I finished The Order of the Phoenix last night, so I'm now moving on to The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay by Michael Chabon.
Sheeana
06-23-2003, 02:42 AM
I'm about 200 pages from the end of Order of the Phoenix. I'm trying to put off finishing it, but I'll probably finish it tomorrow. :( I DON'T WANT IT TO END!!!! :(
Khamûl
06-24-2003, 12:33 AM
Finished Order of the Phoenix and probably won't pick anything else up for a while. When I do, it'll probably be back to The Sum of All Fears.
Sheeana
06-24-2003, 12:44 AM
Back to the uncanny x-men, and Thomas Covenant. *sigh*
Radagast The Brown
06-24-2003, 04:13 PM
I'm reading the Order of The Pheonix (in Englsih. I'm on page 435) .
Got a new translated Eddings book. 'Domes of Fire'.
frodosgirlfriend
06-24-2003, 04:29 PM
whoa, Khamûl, you avatar scared me!
Right now I'm reading Arimis Fowl, ppl at school say it's great. I'm waiting for my perants to get me Harry Potter. This boy at school has it and told me a HUGE part of it (He said who dies ). I hit him with my books. :D
Silme*Christian
06-26-2003, 07:21 PM
Hello everyone. Khamûl, where did you get the cool Mr. Bean avatar?! I have been looking everywhere for one!
Gwaimir Windgem
06-26-2003, 09:03 PM
Try searching under images on Google (www.google.com). :)
Silme*Christian
06-26-2003, 11:00 PM
Thanks! Now to the subject. May I join in the conversation?
Shadowfax
06-27-2003, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Silme*Christian
May I join in the conversation? Of course! What books have you read recently, or are currently reading? I just finished The Picture of Dorian Gray ...whoah! Good book, very intense, powerful. I'm still reading Letters of JRR Tolkien which is very good! I think soon, I'll be starting to read The Fellowship of the Ring ....again!:D
Silme*Christian
06-27-2003, 04:07 PM
Well, my Mom wants me to read Island of the Blue Dolphins, when I get the chance I read The Fellowship of the Ring.
Khamûl
07-11-2003, 12:07 AM
I just finished Alice in Wonderland and am about to start Through the Looking-Glass.
Sheeana
07-11-2003, 12:37 AM
Ooh, I love those books. Especially in Through the Looking Glass when Alice is trying to catch up with the Red Queen's (or was it white queen?) long strides. :D
Khamûl
07-11-2003, 01:28 AM
It's probably the Red Queen since she was in the first one. On the other hand, the White Queen could be a new character that I don't know about. I'll let you know when I get there. :p
Baby-K
07-11-2003, 03:14 AM
I'm re-reading Solomon's Song (Bryce Courtenay) as a result of a convo with Linaewen. Also reading one of the old Prathett faves (Truckers). Can't seem to find any new books that really interest me - can any of you oke suggest a few?
Millane
07-11-2003, 03:23 AM
Read Smoky Joe's Cafe... its Bryce Courtenay's best book.
Shadowfax
07-11-2003, 09:06 PM
Just finished "Fellowship of the Ring" and am now on "The Two Towers" (both for the second time). Oh, and I'm also reading "The Hobbit" to my little sister (her first time, my third I think).
Hasty Ent
07-12-2003, 01:30 AM
Guide to the Lakes by William Wordsworth
Matthew Arnold (yeah, the guy who wrote Dover Beach) tells a story about Wordsworth meeting some naive ecclesiastic who congratulated him on the success of this book and asked him if he'd written anything else. True story, honest.:D
Ragnarok
07-12-2003, 02:46 AM
My girlfriend convinced me to read Harry Potter so I started the first book.
Silme*Christian
07-12-2003, 02:12 PM
I am reading Island of the Blue Dolphins and The Rosetta Stone.
Radagast The Brown
07-12-2003, 06:24 PM
the second (or first) in Discworld, by Terry Pratchett.
Gwaimir Windgem
07-13-2003, 01:56 AM
To above:
I loved Alice and Looking-Glass. Absolutely spectacular books. Caroll Lewis was a genius. Though of course, how much of the genius was his, and how much was the opium's is up to debate...;)
I've recently read Rome Sweet Home and Hail, Holy Queen, both by Scott Hahn. I loved them; he's a great author. Also read Catholic for a Reason, editted by him (and someone else I don't know :p). I started and liked Orthodoxy by G. K. Chesterton, but got kind of swept away by Hahn. Also read (most of) The Teachings of the Essenes from Enoch to the Dead Sea Scrolls, and have been reading from the Book of Enoch recently, as well; the source is from Fallen Angels and the Origin of Evil: Why Church Fathers Suppressed the Book of Enoch and its Startling Revelations. Although I flipped through the book, I didn't see anything that told why. :p I've also read excerpts from Morgoth's Ring (most notably the Athrabeth Finrod Ah Andreth; loved that :)) and Peoples of Middle-earth (mainly the Shibboleth of Feanor).
Sheeana
07-13-2003, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by Khamûl
It's probably the Red Queen since she was in the first one. On the other hand, the White Queen could be a new character that I don't know about. I'll let you know when I get there. :p
Oh, the White Queen's awesome as well. I love it when she pricks her finger. :p :D
Gwaimir Windgem
07-13-2003, 10:41 PM
Yes, that was most peculiar....
Sheer genius. :D
wahine
07-14-2003, 12:16 AM
Bummed Harry Potter Five off of my brother *Yeah, oddly he has read them all, and enjoys them emensely but doesn't have much of a love for JRRT :( *
Millane
07-14-2003, 09:10 AM
im occupying myself with a heap of Plato extracts and Socratic Dialogues, but im planning on reading The Long Hard Road out of Hell, Marilyn Manson's autobiography again... then onto The Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey, which should be cheery:p
Baby-K
07-14-2003, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by Millane
im occupying myself with a heap of Plato extracts and Socratic Dialogues, but im planning on reading The Long Hard Road out of Hell, Marilyn Manson's autobiography again... then onto The Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey, which should be cheery:p
Hehe - I've read the autobiography........he's a silly lil' man our MM ;) Are ye reading the Satanic Bible for sh*ts & giggles or for a specific learning objective to be met?
Millane
07-14-2003, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by Baby-K
Hehe - I've read the autobiography........he's a silly lil' man our MM ;) Are ye reading the Satanic Bible for sh*ts & giggles or for a specific learning objective to be met? it was awesome!!!! what did you think of it? a lot of it was quite amusing, and ive never had the effects of acid so vividly described:p nah im reading the Satanic Bible because it seems interesting and because LaVey seems very intelligent and i think the messages in the Satanic Bible would be right down my path (DOWN WITH GOD!!!!!)... but hey i might be surprised and get a laugh out of it...
Baby-K
07-14-2003, 10:05 AM
Reading about it almost put me on a trip myself, he's very tongue in cheek I think, definitely not a braindead warbler and I hate to use the word 'misunderstood' but in some ways it does apply to him. Quite interesting (but then I have a thing for autobiographies - recently read one of Wouter Basson, who was SA's doctor death, he was at the head of the Nuclear & Chemical Warfare programme - chilling stuff). I laughed at the part where his girlfriend or whatever sneezed all over his hand
nah im reading the Satanic Bible because it seems interesting and because LaVey seems very intelligent and i think the messages in the Satanic Bible would be right down my path (DOWN WITH GOD!!!!!)... but hey i might be surprised and get a laugh out of it...
Why do you say he seems intelligent? What makes his writings more acceptible / beliebable than those of the writers of the Bible? Just asking 'cos it seems interesting.
Are you interested in learning of the Satanic/dark practices only, or different religions in general? I like reading about different religions and the practices etc & when I have questions I ask my friend *stares in general direction of Durham* for help, he's very clever ;)
wahine
07-14-2003, 10:10 AM
I've read the Satanic Bible :rolleyes:
What an idiot. :) (read it as a kid as a rebellious thing)
Baby-K
07-14-2003, 10:14 AM
I guess we all go through moments like that - I had the whole 'metal / grunge / goth' thing going for a while - read as many taboo stuff as possible while listening to music like Marilyn Manson, Panthera, Iron Maiden etc etc etc - drove me folks round the bend, now just about the 'loudest' I can handle is Metallica - gods I'm getting old :eek:
Millane
07-14-2003, 10:22 AM
Reading about it almost put me on a trip myself, he's very tongue in cheek I think, definitely not a braindead warbler and I hate to use the word 'misunderstood' but in some ways it does apply to him. Quite interesting (but then I have a thing for autobiographies - recently read one of Wouter Basson, who was SA's doctor death, he was at the head of the Nuclear & Chemical Warfare programme - chilling stuff). I laughed at the part where his girlfriend or whatever sneezed all over his hand ohhh plenty of his girlfriends were ****ed, like the one he had planned to kill (Twiggy and Manson going to commit a murder always seems funny to me, maybe im the ****ed one:p ) his latest girlfriend is hot as, and sane:D
Why do you say he seems intelligent? What makes his writings more acceptible / beliebable than those of the writers of the Bible? Just asking 'cos it seems interesting. the writers of the bible were intelligent, in the same way Charles Manson was intelligent. A lot of Anton Lavey's ideas are influenced by Neitsche and are more about living life with the God is Dead outlook. LaVey is dead now but of what i read he seems very intelligent and his ideas which have shaped some great music (HURRAH FOR MM!) and art. he seems very wise in both psychology and philosophy and i count them fairly high in wisdom.
Are you interested in learning of the Satanic/dark practices only, or different religions in general? I like reading about different religions and the practices etc & when I have questions I ask my friend *stares in general direction of Durham* for help, he's very clever Nah LaVeys satanism is not a "dark practice" sorta do... its more living life not within God's purposes, a lot of it is taking the left hand road in life, living by what was deemed satanic by Christians, eg accepting homosexualism... it judges people on there knowledge (saying intelligence just leads to confusion as ive now learnt:D ) and not on race, color, sexual preferences ect. Dark practices creep me:( :D
Baby-K
07-14-2003, 10:35 AM
ohhh plenty of his girlfriends were ****ed, like the one he had planned to kill (Twiggy and Manson going to commit a murder always seems funny to me, maybe im the ****ed one ) his latest girlfriend is hot as, and sane
Ye know, many people would go 'Yeah Millane, 'tis you'............. but I'm not one of them, yer quite right 'bout his freaky exes
Define 'sane' ;)
the writers of the bible were intelligent, in the same way Charles Manson was intelligent. A lot of Anton Lavey's ideas are influenced by Neitsche and are more about living life with the God is Dead outlook. LaVey is dead now but of what i read he seems very intelligent and his ideas which have shaped some great music (HURRAH FOR MM!) and art. he seems very wise in both psychology and philosophy and i count them fairly high in wisdom.
I didn't say you questioned their intelligence, merely that you seem more willing to accept his writings over their's. Hehe God = Dead, LaVey = Dead, therefore, by sheer mathematical deduction LaVey = God! ;) (soz, it just looked funny, the way you put it, but that might just be me).
Nah LaVeys satanism is not a "dark practice" sorta do... its more living life not within God's purposes, a lot of it is taking the left hand road in life, living by what was deemed satanic by Christians, eg accepting homosexualism... it judges people on there knowledge (saying intelligence just leads to confusion as ive now learnt ) and not on race, color, sexual preferences ect.
But then, is it really Satanism? Because if you think of it Satanism is inverted Christianity, thus Satanism cannot exist without the belief that there is a God, with Satan as the Lord directly opposite. Also Satanism has a lot to do with gratifying earthly pleasures & denying none. It sounds to me like Lavey was more concerned with acceptance of all regardless of differences, in a very good-natured manner........and if he believed God is dead, then he couldn't have truly been a satanist could he?
Dark practices creep me
Awe............*packs away Dark Rituals for Beginners set* So, what shall we do with the virgin? ;)
Millane
07-14-2003, 10:53 AM
Ye know, many people would go 'Yeah Millane, 'tis you'............. but I'm not one of them, yer quite right 'bout his freaky exes hey it was a funny scene, 2 deadshit amatuers all nervoues creeping through the dark streets to burn a chicks house down, then bolting coz they saw a police car going past:D
I didn't say you questioned their intelligence, merely that you seem more willing to accept his writings over their's. Hehe God = Dead, LaVey = Dead, therefore, by sheer mathematical deduction LaVey = God! (soz, it just looked funny, the way you put it, but that might just be me). he claims no diety exists, the bible does (thats put simply there are many things wrong with Christianity). very good Baby-K your logic is outstanding:p
But then, is it really Satanism? Because if you think of it Satanism is inverted Christianity, thus Satanism cannot exist without the belief that there is a God, with Satan as the Lord directly opposite. Also Satanism has a lot to do with gratifying earthly pleasures & denying none. It sounds to me like Lavey was more concerned with acceptance of all regardless of differences, in a very good-natured manner........and if he believed God is dead, then he couldn't have truly been a satanist could he? it is not traditional Satanism, the name was chosen for a reason, the publics fear of a word. An idea that LaVey uses is that fear=power. use your mathematical deduction here and you will get that thrugh using the word satanism LaVey would gain power:p you yourself proved this when you associated Satanism with "dark practices"...
Awe............*packs away Dark Rituals for Beginners set* So, what shall we do with the virgin? ill hold you entirely to blame for my dreams tonight wench:eek: :( you'll be able to put the virgin to some use i daresay;)
Baby-K
07-14-2003, 11:04 AM
hey it was a funny scene, 2 deadshit amatuers all nervoues creeping through the dark streets to burn a chicks house down, then bolting coz they saw a police car going past
Yeah, but that just proved that he's pretty normal (by my standards anyway - who hasn't done summin of the sorts?) :D
he claims no diety exists, the bible does (thats put simply there are many things wrong with Christianity). very good Baby-K your logic is outstanding
So basically he's agnostic of sorts, claiming to be a satanist to sell more books? That is then building a following based on a lie, which in turn is exactly the same as what he claims the Bible does! (ah, circular logic - me fave ;) )
it is not traditional Satanism, the name was chosen for a reason, the publics fear of a word. An idea that LaVey uses is that fear=power. use your mathematical deduction here and you will get that thrugh using the word satanism LaVey would gain power you yourself proved this when you associated Satanism with "dark practices"...
It was associated with 'dark practices' because of the fact that satanism (true satanism) isn't very 'light', just like all the so-called 'black magic' out there etc. See, LaVey very much reminds me of the Herretic Order of the Golden Dawn, the founders also did similarly stupid things, like building a following based on an absolute lie - they fabricated a German sect & claimed they were the British order of it, meantime the sect in Germany didn't even exist - in his case, yes Satanism does exist, but according to his own writings no diety exists, therefore he cannot believe in Satan / cannot call it the Satanic Bible. He makes himself a liar in the end and thus not a very credible source of information. Seems to me he wanted to make a quick buck by playing up the shock value of a word.
ill hold you entirely to blame for my dreams tonight wench you'll be able to put the virgin to some use i daresay
Oh, don't worry, I do have plans for him.............and don't fret Millane, I won't be giving ye bad dreams ;)
Millane
07-14-2003, 11:30 AM
Yeah, but that just proved that he's pretty normal (by my standards anyway - who hasn't done summin of the sorts?) ohh by your standards anythings normal;)
So basically he's agnostic of sorts, claiming to be a satanist to sell more books? That is then building a following based on a lie, which in turn is exactly the same as what he claims the Bible does! (ah, circular logic - me fave ) to a certain extent he believes in a Satanic way of living, he doesnt believe in a diety, and how can you say that is not Satanism when belief in that diety may well be just acknowledging the ideas of it?
It was associated with 'dark practices' because of the fact that satanism (true satanism) isn't very 'light', just like all the so-called 'black magic' out there etc. but would you see it as "dark" if you had not been influenced by the social conditioning that LaVey was toying with?
See, LaVey very much reminds me of the Herretic Order of the Golden Dawn, the founders also did similarly stupid things, like building a following based on an absolute lie - they fabricated a German sect & claimed they were the British order of it, meantime the sect in Germany didn't even exist - in his case, yes Satanism does exist, but according to his own writings no diety exists, therefore he cannot believe in Satan / cannot call it the Satanic Bible. He makes himself a liar in the end and thus not a very credible source of information. he has not lied though... he believes in some of the so called ways of Satan, and how can you say that that is not believing in Satan himself, for all you or anyone knows Satan is just ideas... are you saying that Anton LaVey is stupid Baby-K:eek:
Seems to me he wanted to make a quick buck by playing up the shock value of a word. it may have been so, i didnt know the bloke. The name linked the left hand path with the social conditioning (negative, even indoctrination) of people caused by Christianity...
Oh, don't worry, I do have plans for him.............and don't fret Millane, I won't be giving ye bad dreams now i cant get all these pictures of "dark practices" out of my head:mad: i doubt ill be having dreams tonight, might just have to stay up till morning to sleep:(
Radagast The Brown
07-15-2003, 04:21 PM
I'm reading the second book in Discworld. Pratchett. (It's so funny! :D)
Ragnarok
07-17-2003, 05:44 PM
I'm reading One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
Silme*Christian
07-17-2003, 05:46 PM
What's that about?
IronParrot
07-18-2003, 12:57 PM
Ivan Denisovich is a Nobel-winning novel about life in a Soviet gulag. It is especially remarkable because it was one of those novels that spread, if I remember correctly, by way of being smuggled out of the country. The Soviet government did not tolerate that sort of dissident literature.
Silme*Christian
07-18-2003, 11:46 PM
I see.
zinnite
07-19-2003, 08:57 AM
I'm in the middle of three books at the moment (I can't seem to be able to read just one book at a time--probably a holdover from my recent days as a student):
The Man in the High Castle by Philip K. Dick - One of the best novels from one of the best writers of the twentieth century
No Logo by Naomi Klein
The Hobbit by you-know-who
crickhollow
07-19-2003, 09:55 PM
Case for Christ by Lee Stroebel. It's an interesting book by a skeptic who took an in-depth look at the evidence for Christianity.
IronParrot
07-20-2003, 12:52 AM
I'm now reading Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451.
Radagast The Brown
07-20-2003, 01:55 PM
I'm reading 'The river of dancing gods' by Jack L. Chalker.
Annabelle
07-21-2003, 03:11 PM
Right now I am re-reading a short story by Edith Wharton called "Xingu". I am also reading a book called "Raising Vegetarian Children".
Eruviel Greenleaf
07-22-2003, 07:11 AM
Midsummer Night's Dream. Again. Dear gods, I never thought I could get sick of that play, and now I just want it to go away. Probably because it's 4am and I still have to write a paper on it...blech...:(
Silme*Christian
07-22-2003, 10:32 AM
I am reading "Elizebeth I, Queen of England" for a school project.
Varda Oiolosseo
07-22-2003, 01:11 PM
I love Midsummer Night's Dream. I did Paper on it too last year.
I love Romeo and Juliett it's brilliant, i love the 1997 Baz Luhrmann's movie version. :D
anduin
07-22-2003, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by zinnite
The Man in the High Castle by Philip K. Dick - One of the best novels from one of the best writers of the twentieth century
I read that recently. I really like Philip K. Dick. So far I've read about 6 of his novels. Someday I will have read them all. :)
Annabelle
07-22-2003, 07:37 PM
"Elizebeth I, Queen of England" sounds like an interesting book. Did you enjoy it? Would you recommend it?
Hanza
07-23-2003, 12:40 PM
I am reading harry potter 5. i am sooo nearly finished!
hectorberlioz
07-23-2003, 05:43 PM
I'm reading War and Peace, couple hunred more pages to go! (out of 1443). I definitely had to get used to single quote: >'< and double quote in single quote.
Radagast The Brown
07-23-2003, 05:46 PM
I'm reading Dune.
Sheeana
07-23-2003, 05:48 PM
YES! Another one. ;)
Hope ya enjoy it as much as I did, Rad. :)
hectorberlioz
07-23-2003, 05:54 PM
Ahhh! wanted to read dune.To complex for my feeble mind..., maybe next year.
Silme*Christian
07-23-2003, 07:28 PM
I have finnished ALL the Dune books. There pretty dang good.:D
Sheeana
07-23-2003, 07:59 PM
Coool. Which one's your favourite?
Silme*Christian
07-23-2003, 10:34 PM
I asume you mean me? If so then... I like the first Dune (Can remember if it had a self tittle or not) Children Of Dune, and Dune Mesiah (sp?). Not exactly in that order. I have another Dune book, but I didn't care for it.
Sheeana
07-23-2003, 10:52 PM
Dune Mesiah, eh? Didn't particularly care for that one too much. A bit weak compared to the others. I liked Dune, God Emperor of Dune, and Chapterhouse Dune.
Silme*Christian
07-23-2003, 11:04 PM
Dune Mesiah, eh? Didn't particularly care for that one too much. A bit weak compared to the others. I liked Dune, God Emperor of Dune, and Chapterhouse Dune.
I have read Dune, God Emperor of Dune, but I can hardly recall it.
cee2lee2
07-24-2003, 10:42 PM
Finished The Order of the Phoenix and am reading more in the Miss Read series. Also reading Miss Demeanor by Joan Hess. She writes amusing mysteries set in a thinly disguised Fayetteville, Arkansas
Shadowfax
07-25-2003, 02:43 PM
Started Pygmalion by George Bernard Shaw. It's the original drama that the movie My Fair Lady is based on.
Linaewen
07-26-2003, 07:15 AM
I have books about Norse mythology & Scandinavian history, Cambodian history and the Old Kingdom Trilogy, by Garth Nix.
The Old Kingdom trilogy is a dark fantasy series, and I've read it the first two in the series-I'm just refreshing myself so I can read the last book. If you can get your hands on it, I'd recommend it, though it could be considered as "teenage fiction". :)
EDIT: This series consists of "Sabriel", "Lirael" & "Abhorsen", which I mention later in this thread. :)
Annabelle
07-27-2003, 08:41 AM
I am currently reading "The Sign of Four" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
crickhollow
07-27-2003, 10:45 AM
I just finished the first Dune book. Picked it up from the library, and then spent the day doing nothing but reading. :P I'm such a lazy bum.
Silme*Christian
08-01-2003, 12:39 PM
Did you like the Dune book?
Varda Oiolosseo
08-02-2003, 05:05 PM
I've just finished reading A Midsomer Night's Dream again for school, but i'm reading Sabriel now. :D
zinnite
08-03-2003, 12:23 AM
This month's Harper's magazine, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch by Philip K. Dick, and Who Owns History? by Eric Foner
Earniel
08-03-2003, 06:19 AM
I'm starting on The Complete Works of Shakespeare. Me thinks this will take me a while. :D
Starr Polish
08-03-2003, 01:01 PM
I'm reading "The Secret Life of Bees".
Varda, is Sabriel good? A friend of mine wants me to read it.
Artanis
08-04-2003, 03:37 AM
I'm reading both "Don Quijote" and the seemingly neverending Collection of short stories by Philip K. Dick. DQ is a perfect read for one like me who have just a little time now and then to sit down and read: It is divided into many small chapters. :) And it's a very humorous book. Unlike the book that I've just finished reading, "Medea" by Euripides, which was pure tragedy.
Varda Oiolosseo
08-04-2003, 04:22 AM
Varda, is Sabriel good? A friend of mine wants me to read it.
I'm nearly half way through and it is really good!! I had never heard of it until i was in a book shop and this woman said it was good so i bought it.
:D :D
Linaewen
08-04-2003, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by Starr Polish
Varda, is Sabriel good? A friend of mine wants me to read it.
I know the question is not addressed to me; but yes, Sabriel is very good. I'm actually rereading it & Librael, so that I can read Abhorsen (the last in the series) for the first time.
It's dark fantasy- which I was unaccustomed to initially, but you get hooked.
Starr Polish
08-04-2003, 08:12 AM
Thanks Lin. wow...dark fantasy. I haven't read any of that for about three years. It'l be a nice change from the norm, I suppose.
Linaewen
08-04-2003, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by Starr Polish
Thanks Lin. wow...dark fantasy. I haven't read any of that for about three years. It'l be a nice change from the norm, I suppose.
It was actually the first dark fantasy I had read, and I thought I didn't like it initially. But I persisted (mainly because of the comments of authors such as Phillip Pullman) and then I got addicted to it. I think I finished Sabriel in a day. And then I ran to the library to get Lirael. And then I waited for months for Abhorsen. :rolleyes: :D *heads over to Garth Nix thread* Lin- often gets addicted to books.
IronParrot
08-04-2003, 10:07 PM
I'm currently somewhere in the middle of Gulliver's Travels. Jonathan Swift is one funny guy.
Shadowfax
08-07-2003, 02:16 PM
I'm in now in the middle of The Road to Middle-Earth by T.A. Shippey. It discusses Tolkien's Anglo-Saxon/Norse mythological influences. It's really good.
Hans Moleman
08-07-2003, 03:11 PM
I have recently completed Ringworld engineers, perfect
Silme*Christian
08-07-2003, 09:57 PM
I have just finnisged FOTR, and am now starting TTT
Elenka
08-08-2003, 04:58 PM
Um....let's see. The fifth harry potter book (this would be my third time reading it), the Second Summer of the Sisterhood or whatever it's called, and Legends Walking. All very good books, in my opinion.
Shadowfax
08-08-2003, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Silme*Christian
I have just finnisged FOTR, and am now starting TTT Is this the first time, or have you read them before?
Silme*Christian
08-09-2003, 10:01 AM
Well, I just got an 'limited' edition Book Club FOTR and The Hobbit to go along with my TTT and ROTK.
Shadowfax
08-09-2003, 04:45 PM
Cool!
Silme*Christian
08-09-2003, 08:03 PM
Yeah!:D (I hate that 90 second rule!)
crickhollow
08-13-2003, 01:27 AM
yesterday evening I finally broke down and bought Order of the Phoenix. I finished it today.
Currently reading: No Man is an Island by Thomas J. Merton (after taking a crash course in Merton's writings this spring, I have the irresistable urge to buy any of Merton's books that I come across. NMI was on sale at Barnes and Noble.)
also, Cry, the Beloved Country by Alan Paton. I'm only a few chapters into it, but excellent, excellent, so far.
Elfmaster XK
08-13-2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Eärniel
I'm starting on The Complete Works of Shakespeare. Me thinks this will take me a while. :D
Good luck!
I am currently working through Hamlet and Macbeth in my quest to read more Shakespeare.
Aside from that have just finished a book called The Science of Star Wars by Jeanne..someone - will look it up - which discusses the possibilities of technology, species and places existing. Was very good. And am working on Stonehenge by Bernard Cornwell. Tried once before and never finished so am giving it another go.
Earniel
08-15-2003, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by Elfmaster XK
Good luck!
I am currently working through Hamlet and Macbeth in my quest to read more Shakespeare.
Thanks. I know of most plays the rough storylines but I've only actually read Romeo and Julliet and Hamlet. So I thought to correct that hole in my education thoroughly. :D
I've just finished the first play in the book: King Henry the Sixth
This quote will always be memorable:
[...]Thou hast most traitorously corrupted the youth of the realm in erecting a grammarschool: [...]
Jack Cade
:D
Goldberry1
08-17-2003, 12:15 AM
i'm really annoyed right now because i just finished the three books i bought in less than a week! The Tin Princess (Phillip Pullman), Faerie Wars (author's name escapes my memory... Herbie something or other...), and Zipped (by a couple... last name mcneal i think). all great books, if i find i good book i can't put i down till i finish! i think i might read Neuromancer - by William Gibson - next, unless it boggles my mind in the first chapter or so...
Hasty Ent
08-17-2003, 12:30 AM
I absolutely LOVED Neuromancer. Have you read anything else by Gibson? Burning Chrome (short stories) and Mona Lisa Overdrive aren't bad, but Neuromancer sets the bar!
zinnite
08-17-2003, 12:56 AM
Neuromancer is great, but the first time through probably will boggle your mind. That's one of the reasons why it's so great :) I actually just picked up some Gibson books today (Idoru, Virtual Light, and Mona Lisa Overdrive) that I'm looking forward to reading.
As for what I'm reading now, I just finished Random Acts of Senseless Violence by Jack Womack, and I think I'm going to start Ambient, also by Womack. If you've never read any of his stuff, It's pretty darn amazing.
Of course, now I'm in the mood for Neuromancer... decisions, decisions.
Millane
08-17-2003, 06:49 PM
im going to finish readinhg Gangs of New York, then its on to Philosophy in the Matrix, im not suire if its out yet but there is a Philosophy in Lord of the Rings... has anyone seen it it could be good
Fat middle
08-17-2003, 06:53 PM
I'm finishing The Human Factor, by Graham Greene. Quite good in spite of being a spy's story 20+ years old, in the times of the apartheid in SA.
Bombadillo
08-18-2003, 07:03 PM
Right now I'm reading stuff for school. The Invisible Man, The Pact, To Kill a Mockingbird. As soon as school starts I'm picking up the Silmarillion for the first time!
Silme*Christian
08-19-2003, 11:20 PM
I am, for now, reading "Seabiscuit: an American Legend" because I finaly got my fingers on the book for a good price. I love Seabiscuit, I even have the SB Breyer's horse complete with his trophies, ribons, roses, horse blanket, Red Polard figourine, 'SB' stall, saddle, reins and movie of SB's life.:D I don't think you guys will have any clue to what I just typed. Here is a little info: 'Breyer's' is a company that makes really good-expencive horse colectables. My favorit horses are SB, Cloud Dancer, Cupid, Arrow, Mystic and Gypsy's King.;)
Millane
08-20-2003, 06:07 AM
i got bored today and started reading Pulp Faction by Chopper... i dont think anyone here will know it (unless your australian) but he's a crim and basically he writes "fiction" from his 30 years in the aust underworld... anyway its a pretty ****ed up story about a collingwood gang, and it launches into there story when there about 14 and they go shoot some crim and his cronies for some reason or other, anyway its just a disgusting sex, drug and violence story thats incredibly disturbing and fascinating... if you can find any of Choppers books read them because there 50 times better than most of the trashy crime fiction that comes out these days...
IronParrot
08-20-2003, 04:00 PM
I just finished Frank Miller's Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, which is a masterful and highly literary piece of storytelling that belongs here, even though it is (on the surface) a comic book.
Right now I'm in the middle of The Drowning Pool by Ross Macdonald. Out of the Big Three of private eye fiction (Macdonald, Chandler, Hammett) he was the only one I'd never read before.
Ragnarok
08-20-2003, 10:21 PM
Just finished One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Its about a man who was put into one of Stalin's labor camps during World War II. Overall it is a good book.
Sheeana
08-20-2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by IronParrot
I just finished Frank Miller's Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, which is a masterful and highly literary piece of storytelling that belongs here, even though it is (on the surface) a comic book
Technically, it's a Graphic Novel.
olsonm
08-20-2003, 11:42 PM
Which is a fancy word for comic book.
Sheeana
08-21-2003, 01:15 AM
No, there's a distinction.
Main Entry: graphic novel
Function: noun
Date: 1978
: a fictional story for adults that is presented in comic-strip format and published as a book
Main Entry: comic book
Function: noun
Date: 1941
: a magazine containing sequences of comic strips
Another good definition:
Graphic Novels and Comic Books are cousins, but not the same thing. Comic Books are stories told mostly through dialogue and are usually serial--they continue from one book to another. Graphic Novels are usually stand-alone stories that are told through the illustrations. The text is peripheral. There are exceptions of course, but for the most part this is true.
olsonm
08-21-2003, 03:43 AM
No. I meant it was a fancy word for "Comic Book". Comic-books (as your definition points out) are periodical magazines: that have been improperly labelled as books. The term "Graphic Novel" was coined for the first true Comic Books to avoid confusion. -- Mr. Hair-splitter.
Fat middle
08-21-2003, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by Ragnarok
Just finished One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Its about a man who was put into one of Stalin's labor camps during World War II. Overall it is a good book.
Yes, very good book. :)
Sheeana
08-21-2003, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by Hasty Ent
I absolutely LOVED Neuromancer. Have you read anything else by Gibson? Burning Chrome (short stories) and Mona Lisa Overdrive aren't bad, but Neuromancer sets the bar!
I'm hoping to give him a chance after I finish re-reading the Dune series. Could you give me some suggestions on the best place to start?
GrayMouser
08-21-2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Fat middle
I'm finishing The Human Factor, by Graham Greene. Quite good in spite of being a spy's story 20+ years old, in the times of the apartheid in SA.
Yeah, not one of my favorites, but even lesser Greene is still pretty good.
Have you read "The Power and the Glory"? It's about a Catholic priest being hunted by the militantly anti-Christian Government in a Mexican state- very, very good.
zinnite
08-21-2003, 05:52 PM
I'm hoping to give him a chance after I finish re-reading the Dune series. Could you give me some suggestions on the best place to start?
I would definitely start would Neuromancer.
Hasty Ent
08-21-2003, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by zinnite
I would definitely start would Neuromancer.
yep, that's my favorite
also suggest drinking coffee while reading -- the combo of speeding on caffeine and the pulse of the text is too much fun!:D
anduin
08-22-2003, 07:59 AM
I am reading Musashi: The Bushido Code (book 4 of 5) by Yoshikawa Eiji. I am also reading The Art of War by Sun-tzu.
Lizra
08-22-2003, 11:21 AM
I am reading "The Courage to be Rich" by Suze Orman (Hee hee :D ) It's really good. I like it! .....First law of money...."People first, then money, THEN things"
Things are not as important as money (when you really stop and give it thought, because money can buy things, but things can't give you money. If you sell your things, you never get near the money you had to give for them) so quit blowing your $ (or worse, using credit! :eek: ) to buy things, when financial security will probably make you much happier. (then you will have $ to buy things, if you really think they are important to your happiness) or something like that! ;)
IronParrot
08-22-2003, 12:15 PM
I'm now reading Summerland, Michael Chabon's baseball-centred children's fantasy.
Starr Polish
08-24-2003, 12:14 PM
I'm reading Mrs. Dalloway, by Viriginia Woolf. I haven't gotten very far though because I already have a quiz on Monday, a paper due and two other assignments. Ah well.
Artanis
08-24-2003, 12:54 PM
I'm reading 'Half a life' by Naipaul. About a young man who is trying to come into terms with himself, but doesn't succeed very well.
Jinnigan
08-25-2003, 09:46 PM
The Salmon of Doubt.
Douglas Adams. Collection of essays, speeches, and more after his death.
Alternatively, Out of Control, by Kelly... uh...
Right. Kevin Kelly.
http://www.kk.org/outofcontrol/
"The New Biology of Machines, Social Systems, and the Economic World"
Fimbrethil
08-26-2003, 01:15 PM
I'm reading The Unicorn Dilemma, by John Lee. Has anyone ever heard of the book or auther?
Earniel
08-26-2003, 05:38 PM
I've read The Unicorn peace and The Unicorn war by John Lee but I never got my hands on the other books from the series.
Starr Polish
08-27-2003, 07:45 PM
It is my personal opinion that Virginia Woolf was crazy.
This book is insane.
durin's bane
08-28-2003, 04:35 PM
I'm re-reading Two Towers for the third time. Yes, I only read the same books over again. :p
Salquënòrëwen
08-28-2003, 06:41 PM
I'm reading the OotP and the RotK off and on...It just depends which I mood I'm in, HP or LotR :)
Varda Oiolosseo
08-29-2003, 05:15 PM
At the moment i'm starting to read a book called Shadowmancer by G.P.Taylor.
It looks really good. :D
Shadowfax
09-03-2003, 07:31 PM
Norse Poems translated by W.H. Auden and Paul B. Taylor (poems from the 10th-12th (?) centuries in Iceland).
nessa
09-03-2003, 08:41 PM
Hi! I'm on the last few pages of Stephen King's 'Wizard and Glass', book four of the 'Dark Tower' series. This is a re-read and is in preparation for October when the fifth book is released.
Once finished I will then start his 'Eye of the Dragon'.
Sheeana
09-04-2003, 01:44 AM
Just sped-read my way through Janet Evanovich's One For The Money. It was damned funny. :D
Silme*Christian
09-06-2003, 02:24 PM
I am now reading J. R. R. Tolkien's: The Book of Lost Tales 1
OrnelÃrë Mistë
09-08-2003, 05:58 PM
Chekhov's Seagull, The Lady with the Lap Dog and Other Tales, and The Apprentice (bio. of Jaques Pepin).
Goldberry1
09-10-2003, 05:12 PM
We're about to start reading "Beowulf" for school.... I don't know about this. (But at least it's a translation, it's not like I have to make my way through Anglo-Saxon.)
Shadowfax
09-10-2003, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Goldberry1
We're about to start reading "Beowulf" for school.... I don't know about this. (But at least it's a translation, it's not like I have to make my way through Anglo-Saxon.) My AP English 12 class is reading Beowulf too (but I've already read it). I really love that poem, and it was a huge influence on Tolkien too! I hope you enjoy it. Oh, by the way, which translation are you reading? I highly recommend Seamus Heany's verse translation (it has the Anglo-Saxon on one side and the translation, which is beautiful btw, on the side facing it). :)
Goldberry1
09-11-2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by Shadowfax
My AP English 12 class is reading Beowulf too (but I've already read it). I really love that poem, and it was a huge influence on Tolkien too! I hope you enjoy it. Oh, by the way, which translation are you reading? I highly recommend Seamus Heany's verse translation (it has the Anglo-Saxon on one side and the translation, which is beautiful btw, on the side facing it). :)
That's the same one that I have to read... and you're reading it in an AP class?!? I'm in 10th grade and it's one thing we have to read for British Literature (which is what everyone in sophmore year takes at my school).
hectorberlioz
09-11-2003, 08:46 PM
I finished "War and Peace" a while back. started dostoyevsky's "the possessed" and finished "the brothers karamazov" now i'm just reading john grisham's "the testament" i'm planning on reading "crime & punishment" next.
Shadowfax
09-11-2003, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Goldberry1
That's the same one that I have to read... and you're reading it in an AP class?!? I'm in 10th grade and it's one thing we have to read for British Literature (which is what everyone in sophmore year takes at my school). Yes we're reading Beowulf in an AP class, but it is only one of the many, many, many books, poems and essays that we do have to read. We've already had to read 4 books during the summer and write on them before the class even started, and we are doing a new peice of literature just about every week to 10 days, until May, plus reading on our own time, and of course writing on everything we've read.:)
nessa
09-18-2003, 05:06 PM
I've started 'The Magus' by John Fowles. Anyone else read it? Slow build up but definately hooked into the plot.
Shadowfax
09-18-2003, 11:57 PM
Just started The Canterbury Tales by Chaucer. I've only read the prologue so far, but I totally love it! Wow!
Grey_Wolf
09-24-2003, 04:51 PM
I have begun reading Jak P Mallmann-Showell's German Navy Handbook: 1939 - 1945. Very interesting. Along with Clive Cussler's Inca Gold, Edward Rutherfurd's London, Churchill's H.O.E.S.P - 2: The New World, Terry Brook's The First King of Shannara, Ludovic Kennedy's Menace: The Life And Death of the Tirpitz.
Sheeana
09-24-2003, 05:46 PM
I'm reading David Brin's Sundiver at the moment. Pretty good so far. Looked in all my bookstores for Necromancer, and do you think I could find it?? No!!:mad:
zinnite
09-24-2003, 06:52 PM
I'm reading "Days Between Stations" by Steve Erickson. If you're into postmodern-ish literature, read it. It's really damn good.
I've also started "The Scar" by China Mieville. I haven't read anything by him before, but the first few pages have been really good :)
cassiopeia
09-24-2003, 08:41 PM
I'm currently reading the Homecoming series by Orson Scott Card. I'm up to the fourth book so far, and they're very addictive. I'm also reading the Lord of the Flies for the Entmoot book discussion.
Shadowfax
09-26-2003, 07:12 PM
I just started The Count of Monte Cristo and it is really good so far (I've read about 30 pages).
hectorberlioz
09-29-2003, 04:10 PM
So are you into the classics too? i love classics. robinson cruesoe was great.
Goldberry1
09-29-2003, 05:17 PM
Well, on my own time i've been reading the books by Douglas adams in a volume we have called "The Ultimate Hitchikkers' Guide." I'm on the last book in the volume called "Mostly Harmless."
Also in my British Literature class, we have to read a fictitious book called "Grendel" to go along with our reading of "Beowulf." It's basically from Grendel's point of view and tells why he started to attack the Danes, which he does in "Beowulf."
Shadowfax
09-29-2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by hectorberlioz
So are you into the classics too? i love classics. robinson cruesoe was great. Yeah, I'd rather read a classic any day than modern/20th century stuff. I'm actually very particular though: I can't stand Shakespeare, don't like Jane Austen's style, etc, etc. I'm most into pre-Chaucer European literature, the really old stuff. But yeah, classics are good; that must be why they've been dubbed "classics."
Originally posted by Goldberry1
Also in my British Literature class, we have to read a fictitious book called "Grendel" to go along with our reading of "Beowulf." It's basically from Grendel's point of view and tells why he started to attack the Danes, which he does in "Beowulf." How is that book? I haven't heard much about it, is it any good, or just hokey monster's-point-of-view pity party stuff? (I'm not prejudiced against this book, I just haven't heard much about it and am just wondering):)
gimli7410
09-29-2003, 10:13 PM
reading:to kill a mockingbird,the time machine, and the fourth hp(a bit of light reading;))
Silme*Christian
09-29-2003, 11:49 PM
I am reading Island of the Blue Dolphins, Book of Lost Tales 1, Eternal Egypt and Gods and Godesses of Anceint Egypt.
cee2lee2
09-30-2003, 12:02 AM
I just started Pattern Recognition by William Gibson.
hectorberlioz
09-30-2003, 01:44 AM
Well i finished Dostoyevsky's "the possessed". it was very good. not in the least boring. the best of dostoyevsky's i've read so far(that only consists of "the brothers karamazov" and "the possessed") i strongly recommend this book to anyone that has not read it.
unfortunately, its a hard book to find. forget libraries, they wont have it.
Silme*Christian
09-30-2003, 11:27 AM
What is the possessed about?
sun-star
09-30-2003, 12:10 PM
I'm currently reading Henry Esmond by Thackeray. I really like it, but reading's getting pushed out of my life at the moment by other things... adn I hate it when that happens :(
hectorberlioz
09-30-2003, 02:38 PM
it is about a (its about a lot of things actually) carachter named peter verhovensky who comes to this town and starts this secret society(socialist group) who terrorrize the town with scandels, murders(no on knows who is in the secret society, so they cant arrest anyone) . Ultimately it is about the consequences of socialism and the people possessed with the idea of socialism that they go into insanity(like peterr verhovensky, he is nuts). and as i said its about a lot of things. you have to read the book.
Elvedans
09-30-2003, 03:50 PM
I'm reading Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen. It's a great read, surprisingly easy for a victorian writer.
Silme*Christian
09-30-2003, 05:37 PM
OK, I see. Another good book about insane people is Helter Skelter: The Charles Manson Murders
hectorberlioz
10-01-2003, 02:22 AM
oh, but this is much different than just insanity. this is conceited evil covered with excuses. i really suggest you check it out.
hectorberlioz
10-01-2003, 02:05 PM
I'm reading 'Great Expectations' now
Elfhelm
10-01-2003, 02:33 PM
Henry James, The American.
cee2lee2
10-01-2003, 07:01 PM
Is this the first time you're reading Pride and Prejudice? It's one of my favorite novels....I read it again almost every year.
hectorberlioz
10-02-2003, 12:24 AM
my older sister really loves reading jane austen and the bronte sisters.
I switched to reading stephen lawhead's "the paradise war"
sun-star
10-02-2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Elvedans
I'm reading Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen. It's a great read, surprisingly easy for a victorian writer.
One of my favourite books, if not my very favourite! Have you read any other Austen novels? I would recommened Persuasion and Sense and Sensibility especially. Jane Austen is an excellent writer (though not actually a Victorian one - she's Regency, sorry to be picky! :))
Elvedans
10-02-2003, 11:20 AM
Well i'm actually reading P+P for the first and second time at the moment. I'm reading it firstly for pleasure and i'm about halfway through, but i'm also reading it for English Literature and we're quite a way behind so i'm reading each chapter twice effectively!
Evenstar1400
10-02-2003, 07:27 PM
im reading The Mists of Avalon. im not too far into it but its good so far.
(stupid 90 second rule)
Lizra
10-02-2003, 08:54 PM
The Return of the King! :) I'm enjoying it immensely as I sit thru my son's karate class. And now that icky guy that's been bugging me, can't! :)
hectorberlioz
10-03-2003, 01:03 AM
*sigh* cant decide wether to read "great expectations" or "the paradise war" by stephen lawhead.
Shadowfax
10-06-2003, 08:45 PM
I'm still reading The Count of Monte Cristo, and on the weekend I started Shakespeare's Hamlet (ugh) for English.
Gwaimir Windgem
10-11-2003, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by hectorberlioz
*sigh* cant decide wether to read "great expectations" or "the paradise war" by stephen lawhead.
Funny, didn't know Great Expectations was by Stephen R. Lawhead. ;)
EDIT:
For me, Orthodoxy by G. K. Chesterton.
Sheeana
10-11-2003, 03:41 PM
Sabriel, and Morgoth's Ring. Jumping between the two at the moment.
sun-star
10-14-2003, 12:07 PM
C.S. Lewis' The Four Loves and lots of books about old age pensions. Guess which one I prefer ;)
RÃan
10-14-2003, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Sheeana
..... and Morgoth's Ring.
heh, heh!
Re-reading C. S. Lewis' Surprised by Joy. Wanting to pick up some Chesterton. Hey Gwai, I just emailed you and asked if you had read any Chesterton! I also want to pick up Don Q., on Artanis' recommendation, and start Karamazov (sp)?
Too many good books, not enough time!
Am finishing up reading Lewis' The Horse and His Boy to the kiddos. I can't read the part when Shasta goes back to save Aravis w/o crying!! I had to ask hubby to read it :o
Snowdog
10-14-2003, 06:48 PM
I just finished the forth book of the Annals of the Black Company. It was probably the best one, though 2 (Shadows Linger) and 3 (The White Rose) were good. You could almost start with Shadows Linger and read The Black Company (the first one) as a prequel.
So what to read next.....
hectorberlioz
10-15-2003, 12:02 AM
well...finished Great Expectations(by charles dickens. Gwaimir.)
great book.:) i loved it. Kinda dont know what to read next...
guess i'll read the paradise war by stephen lawhead...
Artanis
10-15-2003, 05:19 AM
Originally posted by RÃ*an
[BWanting to pick up some Chesterton. Hey Gwai, I just emailed you and asked if you had read any Chesterton! I also want to pick up Don Q., on Artanis' recommendation, and start Karamazov (sp)?[/B]I reckon you'll be busy for a long time! I started reading Don Q. more than 2 months ago, and I'm still not finished. :)
Karamazov is also on my list (the list is loooong).
Percy Weasley
10-19-2003, 11:40 AM
Oh my, other than class books?
Not much time for reading, but I'm currently in the middle of reading Douglas R. Hofstadter's book: Gödel, Escher and Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid -- a metaphorical fuge on minds and machines in the spirit of Lewis Caroll.
Unfortunately, I haven't had much time as of late to read as I have been suffering through midterms, and I might have to go back and review before I can continue. Fascinating book, though.
IronParrot
10-19-2003, 02:45 PM
Recently finished Anne of Green Gables by Lucy Maud Montgomery, which I rediscovered after having forgotten about it over the years. It's a charmer of a novel. I also read Artemis Fowl by Eoin Colfer for the first time, and it was jolly good fun.
Oh yeah, and there are my textbooks, too. :)
sun-star
10-20-2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by IronParrot
Recently finished Anne of Green Gables by Lucy Maud Montgomery, which I rediscovered after having forgotten about it over the years. It's a charmer of a novel.
Ah, how sweet :D
Lady Tinuveil
10-20-2003, 02:43 PM
Currently I am reading one of Tom Clancy's OP Center Series.
'Sea of Fire', I find it well put together.
The following book I will read, would have to be the 'Acts of War' in the OP Center series.
I just got a new book, called 'the eye of the needle' Has anyone heard of it? It is of Post WWII, in Nazi Germany. I have yet to pick it up...
Artanis
10-20-2003, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Lady Tinuveil
I just got a new book, called 'the eye of the needle' Has anyone heard of it? It is of Post WWII, in Nazi Germany. I have yet to pick it up... Is it Ken Follett? I think it's a spy story. I haven't read it myself, but people say it's thrilling, and an easy read.
hectorberlioz
10-20-2003, 10:49 PM
Oh Artanis! you are going to have a fun read with Karamazov (you too Rian). that is an.Excellante booke. Worth putting off all others to read.
As for myself. I am reading 100 Great Operas, and How Opera Grew(old book and not up to date)
Artanis
10-21-2003, 02:29 AM
All right! I shall finish Don Quijote soon, then it is Karamasov. :)
hectorberlioz
10-21-2003, 04:16 PM
I finally remembered that "don quijote" is actually written "don quixote":p
Artanis
10-21-2003, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by hectorberlioz
I finally remembered that "don quijote" is actually written "don quixote":p Don Quixote must be English. It's Don Quijote in Spanish. :)
The original title is 'El ingenioso hidalgo don Quijote de la Mancha'.
hectorberlioz
10-21-2003, 08:33 PM
Oh:p
Rosie Gamgee
10-21-2003, 08:59 PM
Right now I'm reading.. posts at da moot!! :D I'm reading Homer Hickam's new book 'The Keeper's Son'. I'm near the halfway point (due to spending waaaay too much time in a waiting room), and it's pretty good so far. Anybody else like Hickam?
Shadowfax
10-21-2003, 10:39 PM
Now I'm reading Alan Paton's Cry the Beloved Country.:)
hectorberlioz
10-22-2003, 02:16 AM
Ok. Its between.
~Crime and Punishment
Les Miserables
The Gulag Archipeligo
or
David Copperfield~
hard picking here...
sun-star
10-22-2003, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by hectorberlioz
Ok. Its between.
~Crime and Punishment
Les Miserables
The Gulag Archipeligo
or
David Copperfield~
hard picking here...
I recommend David Copperfield :)
hectorberlioz
10-23-2003, 12:52 AM
Thank you. I was wanting to take a break from those miserable russians and those dramatic french.
Hanza
10-27-2003, 01:27 PM
i finished Girls in Love by Jacqueline Wilson today after starting it yesterday. someday i will give up my complusion to read all her books but until then what can i do. so straiight after i finished i started Girls in Tears. i got them outta the library on saturday. also got the first Princess diaries one. just for a bit of a change. havent read a book in a few weeks frgot how much fun it is! lol
Goldberry1
10-27-2003, 05:15 PM
The Hollow Hills by Mary Stewart... about the legend of King Arthur and Merlin and whatnot. Haven't gotten that far into it but it doesn't seem too bad.
elixir
10-28-2003, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Goldberry1
The Hollow Hills by Mary Stewart... about the legend of King Arthur and Merlin and whatnot. Haven't gotten that far into it but it doesn't seem too bad.
Oh, I'm also reading it!!! :D ;) :p Did you also read the first part of that trilogy - "The Crystal Cave"? I did and as I liked it, I'm sure I'll enjoy the second book, too.
Goldberry1
10-29-2003, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by elixir
Oh, I'm also reading it!!! :D ;) :p Did you also read the first part of that trilogy - "The Crystal Cave"? I did and as I liked it, I'm sure I'll enjoy the second book, too.
no... we had to get one of her books to sort of supplement what we're doing in brit. lit. now... the medieval period. i tried to get "the crystal cave" when i went to borders but they didn't have it so i just got "hollow hills." i didn't really feel like searching for "crystal cave."
Hanza
10-30-2003, 06:44 PM
finished girls in tears esterday and am now into princes diaries
zinnite
10-30-2003, 08:33 PM
I'm currently into several short story collections right now--they make it so much easier to read several books at once.
"Gnarl!" by Rudy Rucker, "Welcome to the Monkeyhouse" by Kurt Vonnegut, "Burning Chrome" by William Gibson, and "The Best Short Stories of..." by J.G. Ballard are what I'm working on right now.
b.banner
10-31-2003, 12:54 AM
i just finished the picture of dorian gray
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