Wheel of Time discussions

[Curubethion]

Ah, don't worry about it. It was an interesting idea, though. I never thought of it that way.

Here's a question to mull over: why does The Eye of the World have so many minor parallels to Lord of the Rings (Moiraine-Gandalf, Shadar Logoth-Moria, Rand/Mat/Perrin-Aragorn/Legolas/Gimli, Thom Merrilin-Tom Bombadil, Horn of Valere-Boromir's Horn), and why aren't there parallels like this in the later books?

Also, what do you think of the parallels between some of the main characters and Norse gods?

[b.banner]

almost done with Crown Of Swords. i loved Lord of Chaos!Crown of Swords is really good so far!!

[Curubethion]

I think I've said this before, but Crown has the best climax moment of them all. It's my favorite book.

[Acalewia]

Here's a question to mull over: why does The Eye of the World have so many minor parallels to Lord of the Rings (Moiraine-Gandalf, Shadar Logoth-Moria, Rand/Mat/Perrin-Aragorn/Legolas/Gimli, Thom Merrilin-Tom Bombadil, Horn of Valere-Boromir's Horn), and why aren't there parallels like this in the later books?
I see I'm not the only one to notice that. Of course I thought of Lan-Aragorn him being an uncrowned King.

Also, what do you think of the parallels between some of the main characters and Norse gods?
I never thought of that

[Curubethion]

Acally, where are you in the series now? There's a major WoT plot that everyone talks about that happens in FoH. Let's just say...it's Wheel of Time meets Clue. ;)

[Acalewia]

Finishing up with SR. I just bought one and I can't remember which one it was. :o

[Acalewia]

Ok just finished SR, is it me or does Rand have a duel at the end of each book? And I have another theory( :eek: :D ) Each duel is with a Forsaken!
How exactly did Nyneve block herself? Was it when they met the Seachan the first time?
I heard someone say that one of the events in FoHinvolving Moriane and Lanfear :eek: Don't tell me, I'll find out myself :D

I bought Crossroads of Twilight and New Spring

[Curubethion]

Rand ends pretty much every book with a duel...except for Book 10. And Book 9, although some might dispute that. You'll get what I mean when you get there.

And Nynaeve blocked herself because she was a wilder. Any woman who learns to channel on her own, without guidance, develops a block. This helps them to deny the fact that they're channeling, if only to themselves. Nynaeve's block is that she can't channel unless she's angry. An Accepted named Theodrin used to be a wilder, and she had an unusual block: she couldn't channel unless a boy was in the room.

Nynaeve was blocked long before the books began. That whole time she was a Wisdom, she was able to channel. She just didn't know it. That's why she was a Wisdom.

Hey, like my new siggy?

[Acalewia]

An Accepted named Theodrin used to be a wilder, and she had an unusual block: she couldn't channel unless a boy was in the room.
That is funny. Thanks for clearing that up for me

Hey, like my new siggy?
I meant to say something about that. :o Its a true statement... and funny

[Curubethion]

I meant to say something about that. :o Its a true statement... and funny
Plus, RJ said it! :D

I can't wait until you get to the end of the series...there's so many things that happen! And you won't believe all the crazy theories that are out there!

Oh, and that someone is right about the event in Fires of Heaven. That's not the event I was referring too. Hopefully, you didn't hear too much about the event.

[Acalewia]

More then what I wanted to hear :(

[b.banner]

i finished Crown of Swords, Path of Daggers and Winters Heart i am now reading Crossroads of twighlight. Why hasn't Hurin from The Great Hunt been in any more? :( i liked him

[Curubethion]

Wow! That was quick!
Remind me...who is Hurin again? :p
Yes, he did kind of drop out. But look at the bright side: you get to meet all sorts of cool characters!

[b.banner]

the sniffer he was in the beggining of the Dragon Reborn too

[Acalewia]

I think he was joking.

I think I know who Morgase's lover is. And it ain't good. ;)

I got yet another theory! :rolleyes:

[Curubethion]

I think I know who Morgase's lover is. And it ain't good. ;)

Yup. Poor guy, he just got his nose into all sorts of things. Talk about Daes Dae'mar!

What's your new theory?

[Acalewia]

When Egwen was raised to Accepted, In her third "viewing" of what will, She saw herself as Amerlyn. And Elaida stripped her of the Stole and stilled the Keeper. She tells the Keeper she has never held the Oath Rod.

Well, events in SR were pretty darn close to what Egwen saw, so my theory: Egwen becomes the Amerlyn for the AS who fled the White Tower, without being raised to AS herself.
I have way too much freetime :p

And I'm trying to word this so not to ruin it for those who haven't read the first 4 books.

[Curubethion]

Wow! What a theory...I guess you'll have to read and find out. I didn't pay much attention to that...

Spoiler for those who have read Lord of Chaos:
!!!She's right on the $$$!

[Acalewia]

Like I said: I have way too much free time.
I was right about Morgase's lover! :evil: Per Asomedon(sp)

[Curubethion]

I actually misunderstood you when you made that statement...I thought you were referring to everyone's favorite Gleeman. :o
Lord Gaebril plays a big part in FoH...also triggering one of the most often-quoted lines in WoT.

[Acalewia]

I actually misunderstood you when you made that statement...I thought you were referring to everyone's favorite Gleeman. :o
I don't think that one is two sided anymore. I thought of that at the begining of FoH when he does stuff the queen would be POed about if she wasn't, for lack of better wording, under his spell.

[Curubethion]

So you're on FoH now?

[Acalewia]

Yeah, i'm on chapter 3 now. I thought I posted that I finished SR :confused:

[Curubethion]

Ah, I must've forgotten. I've been popping in and out of Entmoot so much...

[Acalewia]

You too, huh?
Ok i lied, its chapter 7

[Curubethion]

Ah, remind me what's happened so far. You can put it in spoilers if you want.

[b.banner]

i finished Crossroads of Twilight on saturday :D i have been thinking about something in Lord of Chaos Rand finds out Tigraine was his mother then that means Galad is his half brother

[Curubethion]

Yah, very interesting, huh?

Just wait until you get to KoD! The Prologue rocks!

[Acalewia]

Go Morgase! She finally figured it out!

[Curubethion]

Just wait until you see what Rand does...

[Acalewia]

I can never guess what Rand's going to do next.
I'm three quarters done with FoH and I've noticed RJ hasn't taken us back to the Two Rivers yet. And Nynaeve is getting kinda wierd.

[Curubethion]

Get used to leaving parts of the plot behind. Mat gets forgotten entirely in Lord of Chaos.

[Acalewia]

I've noticed he does that. For example, Min was forgotten after being sent back to the Tower in DR. I think he does that to make you keep reading ;) the suspense factor

[Curubethion]

Yeah...
What did you think of that little Rand/Aviendha scene in the middle of Fires of Heaven?
(And now you know why I remembered the name Aviendha)

[Beren3000]

I think he does that to make you keep reading the suspense factor
Wait a few books or so, when some plots are gonna be ignored for whole books. Then they'll pop up again suddenly and you'll find you've forgotten almost everything about them. Not supsense but over-inflated writing!

[Curubethion]

Haha...that's for sure! I just about got entirely lost in Crossroads of Twilight!

[Acalewia]

Yeah...
What did you think of that little Rand/Aviendha scene in the middle of Fires of Heaven?
(And now you know why I remembered the name Aviendha)
Surprise! Really the last person I expected to, well you know, with Rand.
And yes I see why you remember the name Aviendha. And I'm gonna keep the rest of that comment to myself. :evil:

[Curubethion]

Do I really want to know?

But yes, I was fairly, well, shocked when I read that scene. I was like: "Hold on...what just happened here???"
Yes...it gets even better by Book 9 or so... :eek:

[Acalewia]

No you don't.


I had this look on my face when I read that: :eek:

[b.banner]

according to RJ book 12 will be called A Memory of Light :D oh and i finished Knife Of Dreams! i loved it only second to Lord Of Chaos!

[Curubethion]

Hey, congrats! Everyone's anxiously awaiting the 12th book, although they're even more anxiously hoping that RJ will recover from his blood disease.

So, b.banner, do you ever feel like giving Rand a hand now and then? ;) (Pay no heed, Acally :p )

[Acalewia]

So, b.banner, do you ever feel like giving Rand a hand now and then? ;) (Pay no heed, Acally :p )
*Rolls eyes*

[Curubethion]

It's a spoiler, of sorts.

[b.banner]

did anyone read RJ's latest blog? he said something about wheel of time outrigger novels thats sounds awsome!

[Curubethion]

If he lives to finish them, it'll be awesome! I think there's supposed to be one about Tam fighting in the Aiel War, and one about Lan and Mori's journey to the Two Rivers.

[Acalewia]

Prequels like A New Spring?

[Curubethion]

Yep, that's what it sounds like. That would be really cool.

How far along are you in FoH?

[Acalewia]

Nynaeve and Elayne are in Salidar, back to being Accepted. Chapter 50, I think.

[Curubethion]

So you're almost done! Tell me what you think of the last few chapters. They've got the most-quoted line in WoT.

[b.banner]

does anyone know who the people on the cover of Knife Of Dreams are? i figure out all the other books but i just can not figure this one out :confused:

[Curubethion]

The dude with the beard and the white shirt is obviously Perrin, so I'd guess that the woman is Faile. Could the dude on the left be Elyas? Argh, I'm trying to remember if there was a scene like that...

[Beren3000]

I think the woman is that Seanchan officer Peerin teamed up with

[Acalewia]

The dude with the beard and the white shirt is obviously Perrin, so I'd guess that the woman is Faile. Could the dude on the left be Elyas? Argh, I'm trying to remember if there was a scene like that...

My guess on the guy with is face vieled is Gaul.

Curub you are talking about the last few chapters of FoH, right?

[Curubethion]

Yes, I was talking about the last few fun chapters. You finished? What did you think of that cool little plot device?

B300: Hmm...I don't think that would be it. The woman you're talking about wouldn't be in a dress, but in the armor typical of her folk, if you get what I mean.

[Beren3000]

But IIRC she was the only one looking at a map with Perrin

[b.banner]

i thoght the guy with a Mustache could be Bashere but then who would the others be? but i do know that Logain is on the back so it can't be Perrin.

[Curubethion]

But IIRC she was the only one looking at a map with Perrin
Yeah, but I'm sure she would be wearing her green-and-black armor. The cover art never gets everything totally right. For example: Perrin is depicted as being in the Stone when Rand grabs Callandor.

[Pytt]

The cover on my version is just the wheel and the aes sedai snake in gold. And I don't remember much of it, besides of the major bombs. I should read them from 1-11 sometimes soon, just to get the story and all the plots straight.

[Acalewia]

Yes, I was talking about the last few fun chapters. You finished?
Not quite. A few more chapters but I love the fact that Nynaeve has thought to use an a'dam on the Spider :D :evil: Too bad it only works in the World of Dreams. I have 4 more chapters and I'm done.

[Curubethion]

Heehee...I was reading your spoiler comment...well, just keep reading through the books. ;)

[Acalewia]

I've finished FoH! Wow! the last few chapter was suspenseful and action packed. I don't think Lanfear is dead :eek: Is it me or did Nynaeve just send our cowardly Forsaken to Salidar? :confused:
I don't know what to call that last fight. I'd say duel but it wasn't excatly a duel. Am I making any sense?

[Acalewia]

I love the fact that Nynaeve has thought to use an a'dam on the Spider :D :evil: Too bad it only works in the World of Dreams.
Now I see how that works in the waking world.

[Curubethion]

Sweet, you're done! Wasn't that an awesome use of balefire?

Here's the two most-quoted lines in WoT, and they both come from FoH...
"You? No!"
"RAHVIN!"
We love to joke about how in the second quote, Rand got ahold of the Dark One's BIG VOICE MACHINE. ;)

Also...can you see all the Moiraine-Gandalf parallels now? (Especially in FoH, at the very end...)

[Acalewia]

Sweet, you're done! Wasn't that an awesome use of balefire?
O yeah!

Here's the two most-quoted lines in WoT, and they both come from FoH...
"You? No!"
"RAHVIN!"
We love to joke about how in the second quote, Rand got ahold of the Dark One's BIG VOICE MACHINE. ;)
I agree on that. Although I think it was RAVIIIIIN! ;)

Also...can you see all the Moiraine-Gandalf parallels now? (Especially in FoH, at the very end...)
*Eyebrows shoot up* I noticed. I've already figured out that "the balrog" has been reborn somehow ;)

[Curubethion]

Okay, here's something to remember. You know about Moiraine's three letters, right? As you read through the series, keep track of which ones we get to read. Because one of those letters has a really big twist...

[Acalewia]

Three? I thought there was two: The one to Rand and the one to Thom


*uses balefire on the rule :evil: *

[Curubethion]

There was also one to Lan, which is pretty self-explanatory.

BTW, if you balefired the rule, how come it still whacked my posts yesterday? :p

[Acalewia]

Hmm. I think my balefire is broken

I didn't realize she wrote a letter to Lan. We've read Rand's. She knew she was going to battle Lanfear and die.

Btw, is this comment a bit of a hint:
Also...can you see all the Moiraine-Gandalf parallels now?

[brownjenkins]

I just picked up WoT again for lack of something to read. I had promised myself I wouldn't read it again 'till it was done, but I gave in with the supposed next book being the last.

When I first picked it up the series was at Path of Daggers. I read through that just in time to catch Winter's Heart, but then I had to wait so long for CoT that I ended up reading through the whole series again a few months before CoT. Then, when I bought CoT I just didn't get into it. I actually only read about 200 pages and put the book aside, which isn't like me even on average books.

Anyway, I've heard KoD was a lot better, so I'm looking forward to that one. Currently I've just completed The Great Hunt. It's definitely a series that is much better on the re-read since there are so many plots that take several books to unfold and the second (or third, for me) time through you can pick them up earlier in the story.

[Curubethion]

Hey, good luck! It's definitely worth re-reading! I'll have to get around to doing that...

KoD is definitely much better. CoT is mainly setup, so if you can get through that, you'll be great. Although I did get lost in some parts...I just tend to skim those. ;)

Acally: Well, I'm not saying anything about that comment...it may or may not be a hint... :p

[Acalewia]

KoD is definitely much better. CoT is mainly setup, so if you can get through that, you'll be great. Although I did get lost in some parts...I just tend to skim those. ;)
Then that explains how you read through the series so fast :rolleyes:
Acally: Well, I'm not saying anything about that comment...it may or may not be a hint... :p
:p we'll see

[Curubethion]

BTW, does anyone have a link to the ISAM summaries? My link to the one on the Atari boards isn't working...

Here's a great link I found on Wotmania.com: Princess Bride and WoT!
http://www.wotmania.com/fanfictiondisplay.asp?ID=159
But there's a Winter's Heart Spoiler in it.

EDIT: Here's some seperate links to summaries:
EOTW (http://www.wotmania.com/fanfictiondisplay.asp?ID=356)
TGH (http://www.wotmania.com/fanfictiondisplay.asp?ID=355)
TDR (http://www.wotmania.com/fanfictiondisplay.asp?ID=354)
TSR (http://www.wotmania.com/fanfictiondisplay.asp?ID=353)
FOH (http://www.wotmania.com/fanfictiondisplay.asp?ID=404)
LOC (http://www.wotmania.com/fanfictiondisplay.asp?ID=405)
COS (http://www.wotmania.com/fanfictiondisplay.asp?ID=448)

The Lord of Chaos is my favorite summary.

[Acalewia]

Is there any WoT message boards out there? I haven't seen any except for tarvalon.net

[Curubethion]

www.wotmania.com, which is awesome. But beware of spoilers. They just abound.

[b.banner]

i'm glad Perrin got Faile back in KoD now he can see to other matters like Masema

[Curubethion]

Gotta love that siggy, b.banner! :D

And regarding that spoiler, I was actually getting kinda sick of that whole plot. It's like, enough whining about how much you want to have her back!

[Beren3000]

I was actually getting kinda sick of that whole plot.
Seriously? I loved that plot; it was one of the things that made book 10 berarable to me!

[Curubethion]

I dunno. It got a bit tiresome, because he didn't really want her back for anyone other than himself. A bit selfish, if you ask me. And repeated over four or five books...

[Beren3000]

because he didn't really want her back for anyone other than himself
I think that's arguable: he was also rescuing Morgase and that-other-queen-whose-name-I-forgot. Yes, at the end of the day he was only doing this for Faile, but you have to excuse him. Besides, I thought this whole quest gave his character an interesting new dimension.

[Curubethion]

Yeah. I still think he's a really cool character, simply because of his wolf-ness. I mean, how cool is it that he can talk with wolves?

[brownjenkins]

Yeah. I still think he's a really cool character, simply because of his wolf-ness. I mean, how cool is it that he can talk with wolves?

Much cooler than just dancing with 'em. :D

[Acalewia]

And even better that he's cool with it now

[Curubethion]

:D

PERRIN: I hate wolves.

PERRIN: Okay, I don't hate wolves.

PERRIN: I hate Crossroads of Twilight. :p

[Acalewia]

:D :D :D

[brownjenkins]

I'm in the middle of TSR right now. Hands down my favorite of the series with Rand finding out about his history and his future with the Aiel and Perrin returning back home, finding out about his parents and then rallying the Two Rivers.

[Beren3000]

Hands down my favorite of the series
Wait till you get to Lord of Chaos

[Curubethion]

:D Oh, yes, some very fun stuff happens there. But I prefer CoS hands down, if it's only because of the end duels. :D But NOT because of Tylin. :eek:

[brownjenkins]

Wait till you get to Lord of Chaos

This is my third time through, so I know them pretty well. But the stories through TSR > FoH > LoC are definitely some of the best. :D

[b.banner]

i'm also glad that Elayne is finally queen i hope there is more Rand pov's in book twelve and maybe more Thom pov's he hasn't had one since TSR!

[Acalewia]

What the hey! What is Alanna's deal with bonding the Dragon Reborn!!! I know she's a Green but come on!

I think I had some Dreamwalkers messing with my head last night. I had a dream I was an Aiel Aes Sedai fighting Trollocs along side with Rand. Weird.

[Curubethion]

Nice. :D

About your spoiler...well, let's just say there's even more surprising things ahead.

[Acalewia]

I can imagine. The whole book is full of surprises

[Curubethion]

The Ajahs:
Red- :eek:
Yellow- :rolleyes:
Green- :D
Brown- :confused:
Blue- :cool:
White- ;)
Gray- :)
Black- :evil:
Ah, if only I had more smilies to work with...

[Acalewia]

The Ajahs:
Red- :eek:
Yellow- :rolleyes:
Green- :D
Brown- :confused:
Blue- :cool:
White- ;)
Gray- :)
Black- :evil:
Ah, if only I had more smilies to work with...
I love it. I think the evil smilie from Atharon would work perfect for the Black Sisters.
Yet another surprise:If Targine(sp) was the wetlander Maiden of the Spear that was Rand's mother that would make Galad his halfbrother. Now what would he say about his half sister being in love with his half brother and his half brother being The Dragon Reborn. Lot of stuff for a Whitecloak to think on, huh? Interesting

[Curubethion]

Yeah, that's one of the sub-plots that I have to go back and reread the books to catch up on.

RAND: Galad, I am your father.

GALAD: :confused:

RAND: Oh, wait...blood and bloody buttered onions...

[Acalewia]

Yeah, that's one of the sub-plots that I have to go back and reread the books to catch up on.

RAND: Galad, I am your father.

GALAD: :confused:

RAND: Oh, wait...blood and bloody buttered onions...
:D :D
More like blood and bloody flaming ashes :p O wait that sounds more like Mat :cool:

[Curubethion]

Haha...

Wow, I am getting to be obsessed with WoT. Just the other day, I found out one of my friends was going to tell a teacher that he had dropped their class (he reads WoT too, by the way). So I promptly spit out, "Duty is heavier than a mountain, death lighter than a feather." :D

[rael]

well everyone talks about books alot and i must say this book and the concluding series is one of my favorites but still i have other books like eragon rangers apprentice harry potter and anyway i liked it

[Acalewia]

Haha...

Wow, I am getting to be obsessed with WoT. Just the other day, I found out one of my friends was going to tell a teacher that he had dropped their class (he reads WoT too, by the way). So I promptly spit out, "Duty is heavier than a mountain, death lighter than a feather." :D
I would have loved to see his face when you said that :D

[Curubethion]

Oh, he laughed for quite a while. And of course I got a few blank looks from the other people at the table.

I've also come to the conclusion that my Class Ring is a sort of ter'angreal used to cast Compulsion on the freshies... :p

[Acalewia]

Roflmao! :D

[Curubethion]

Oh, wow, I am becoming obsessed...today I was talking to another friend (who also reads WoT), coaching him on how to pronounce "Dovie'andi se tovya sagain." :D

Man, I should learn the Old Tongue!

[brownjenkins]

I just finished Fires of Heaven last night, and I still have no idea who killed asmo.

:D

[Acalewia]

I just finished Fires of Heaven last night, and I still have no idea who killed asmo.

:D
Me neither.

When you learn, Curub. Teach me!
I said something about channeling the other day and all I got was blank looks :D :D Now I can't remember what I said.

[Curubethion]

Ah, yes, the ancient "whodunnit" of WoT! According to RJ, it's "inituitively obvious" who killed him. But fans can't seem to figure it out...

[Beren3000]

For some time I thought it was Moiraine striking from the grave

[Curubethion]

Now that would be fun, wouldn't it? :evil:
KoD Spoiler:But obviously, it couldn't happen, since we now know that M is captured by the 'Finns, and therefore unable to do anything. My original idea: Lanfear, since she had the obvious motive of Asmo the weakling, therefore he should die. And she might have commissioned someone like Slayer to ditch Asmo.

[brownjenkins]

Morraine is an interesting suspect, but there is nothing that changed about Asmo before and after her disappearance to want him dead all of the sudden. She knew who Jasin was for a good bit and if she wanted him dead, why not do it before her disappearance, which she knew was going to happen soon.

Lanfear doesn't make sense either. Even if you assume she could somehow have gotten word to Slayer or something, it was Rand she really wanted dead at that point, not Asmo. If she was going to try and kill someone, it would be him first.

My original guess was Sammael, Graendal or Mazim Taim. But Sammael is basically disproven in LoC when he says he doesn't know if Asmo is dead or not and MT has no motive or means of recognition other than an order from Demandred (who may be his "employer"), but D doesn't know Asmo is dead in LoC.

For a bit I mused over one of the "good guys" killing him. Like maybe Aveindha per order of the Wise Ones. There is enough hinting in FoH to assume that she or they may have figured out who Jasin really was.

But after reading it this time, I'm back to Graendal. A few chapters into LoC she thinks about her visit to the Dark One and being almost promised as Nae'blis. This means that she must have done something to please the DO. And since she really hasn't done much at that point at all, killing Asmo is as good a guess as any.

[b.banner]

interesting theory's brownjenkins

[Acalewia]

Indeed.


:eek: :eek: :eek:
Nynaeve Healed stilling and gentling!!!! That is the biggest surprise yet! My jaw dropped when I read that. I still can't believe it.

[Curubethion]

Believe me, there's more to come... :D

[Acalewia]

I bet there is :cool:

[Curubethion]

BTW, how far along in LoC are you?

[Acalewia]

Well, events in SR were pretty darn close to what Egwene saw, so my theory: Egwene becomes the Amerlyn for the AS who fled the White Tower, without being raised to AS herself.
I have way too much freetime :p



I was right!!!! For the first time!!!
That tell you anything ;)

[Curubethion]

Yup! I can't tell you how amazed I was when you made that prediction. You can see my reaction if you go back a couple pages and look at my spoiler reaction to your prediction.

http://www.entmoot.com/showpost.php?p=551906&postcount=268

[Acalewia]

Good thing I didn't read your spoiler :) I was amazed when I read that.

[Curubethion]

Yeah. Needless to say, I was stunned at that prediction. When you're done with Book 11, you'll have to make some more predictions! :D

A great humor piece from Wotmania that I just found:
http://www.wotmania.com/wotmessageboard2showmessage.asp?MessageID=13975

[Acalewia]

Yeah. Needless to say, I was stunned at that prediction. When you're done with Book 11, you'll have to make some more predictions! :D
:D

A great humor piece from Wotmania that I just found:
http://www.wotmania.com/wotmessageboard2showmessage.asp?MessageID=13975

:D :D :D That was great!
*makes note to join*

[Curubethion]

Just remember...if you do join wotmania, you'll have spoilers flying around left and right, including a very blatant KoD spoiler...

[Lief Erikson]

I was right!!!! For the first time!!!
That tell you anything ;)
Very well done! I'm extremely impressed.

[Acalewia]

Thank you Lief :)

I got another one now: Based on the fact the Mat thinks she is the most beautiful woman he has ever met (sound familier?), I think Halima is really Lanfear.
Now to figure out who the other one is?

[brownjenkins]

I got another one now: Based on the fact the Mat thinks she is the most beautiful woman he has ever met (sound familier?), I think Halima is really Lanfear.

It's a bit more complicated than that. RJ likes to throw in quite a few "most beautiful women". :D

In theory, you should be able to identify Halima once she tells Delana her real name, but that assumes you figured out who the two were back in the LoC Prologue, which is no easy task. But more hints do crop up as you read on.

[Curubethion]

I finally remembered exactly who Halima was...there's a gigantic hint in the method that she aided the escape, if my memory serves me correctly...

[Acalewia]

I finally remembered exactly who Halima was...there's a gigantic hint in the method that she aided the escape, if my memory serves me correctly...
Shut it! I'm not there yet! :p
I haven't figured out who the other one is yet, It was kinda obvoius to me seeing that only, IIRC, female Forsaken has been killed so far.

[Acalewia]

I just finished LoC. Now I'm not so sure who Halima is. But I do know Mat will marry a Seanchan

[b.banner]

i am having a hard time waiting for WoT book twelve and i want some fantasy to read any good suggestions?

[Acalewia]

I've heard forgotten realms is a good series

[brownjenkins]

George Martin is good, but then you'll be waiting on more books. :D

Zelanzy's Amber series is real good, but a pretty quick read.

I enjoyed David Eddings Belgariad stuff as well, though it's a bit on the lite-fantasy side.

[Curubethion]

I just finished LoC. Now I'm not so sure who Halima is. But I do know Mat will marry a Seanchan
Oh, that one...my, that is a fun plot thread.

BTW, what is the consensus on the prophecy that Mat got from the Eelfinn (or was it the Aelfinn?): "To die and live again..." Was it fulfilled in Rhuidean? There's just part of me that doesn't really think so...and of course, it might have also referred to that little ending on FoH.

[Acalewia]

Oh, that one...my, that is a fun plot thread.

BTW, what is the consensus on the prophecy that Mat got from the Eelfinn (or was it the Aelfinn?): "To die and live again..." Was it fulfilled in Rhuidean? There's just part of me that doesn't really think so...and of course, it might have also referred to that little ending on FoH.
I think it was the Aelfinn. Well he did die both times, and Rand brought him back both times. What was the other one beside his marrage to the Daughter of the Nine Moons?

A little birdy gave me a hint that Halima is not who I thought. Also saidin kinda gave it away. and no, he is not a mooter.

[Curubethion]

Yeah, that's right...there were three questions, three answers. Hmm..."To die and live again"..."You shall marry the Daughter of the Nine Moons"...dangit, what was the third one???

[Beren3000]

The third one was (IIRC) "To give up half the light of the world to save the world" I always thought this had something to do with Min's viewing about "the eyeball in the scales" (because half the light of the world could be one eye)

[Curubethion]

Ah, yes, right. Now that makes me wonder...

It's obviously a parallel to Woden, the Norse chief god-who was also associated with ravens. Anyway, he gave up one of his eyes to drink from the Well of Wisdom or something like that...

I can't help but wonder...
Is it related at all to the Tower of Ghenjai?

[Beren3000]

It's obviously a parallel to Woden, the Norse chief god-who was also associated with ravens. Anyway, he gave up one of his eyes to drink from the Well of Wisdom or something like that...
Could be! I've never looked at it this way. However, I believe the god is called Odin.

[Curubethion]

I'm fairly certain the two names are interchangeable...anyway, Jordan makes a few parallels to everything. LOTR, Norse and Eastern mythology, Buddhism, medieval Europe, the Arthur legends...even Greek mythology!

You're wondering what the heck WoT has to do with the Greeks, right? It's simple: Hecate, goddess of sorcery and whatnot, is associated with the hellhounds that haunt a crossroads at twilight.

[Beren3000]

You're wondering what the heck WoT has to do with the Greeks, right? It's simple: Hecate, goddess of sorcery and whatnot, is associated with the hellhounds that haunt a crossroads at twilight.
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing that.

[Acalewia]

You're wondering what the heck WoT has to do with the Greeks, right? It's simple: Hecate, goddess of sorcery and whatnot, is associated with the hellhounds that haunt a crossroads at twilight.
Would that be the Darkhounds? So did Hecat's hellhounds not leave prints save on stone?

[Curubethion]

I'm not sure...that might be something RJ invented. Here's another...coincedence for you: the monster in Beowulf is named "Grendel". Is RJ making a statement about our favorite streith-wearing Forsaken?

[Acalewia]

Hmmmm.

[Butterbeer]

y'know...it's not like me to jump in feet first ....

but ''Hmmmm'' ??


well- it asks the question don't it? ;)

[Acalewia]

Is it me or is Lan getting smart with the Amerlyn?

[b.banner]

i wish someone in my family would believe me about WoT and read it i'm all alone at my house :(

[Acalewia]

Same here. I'm trying to get my dad to read them. No luck yet. I only have one person in RL to talk about them to. :(

[Acalewia]

O wow!
Nynaeve broke her block! I had to read over that twice to see how :p


Grrrrr... Now the one person at work that knows what an Aes Sadai is quit. *cries*

[Curubethion]

O wow!
Nynaeve broke her block! I had to read over that twice to see how :p
I was very excited at that part. VERY excited. When I read that, I was like...YES, YES YES!!

Grrrrr... Now the one person at work that knows what an Aes Sadai is quit. *cries*
:( I feel your pain...I don't know what I'd do if my friends who know what WoT is weren't around any more...
*'Moot-hugs Acally*

[Acalewia]

I was very excited at that part. VERY excited. When I read that, I was like...YES, YES YES!!
I was "ALRIGHT!!!" Top that off with Lan showing up, Nynaeve is having a good day despite nearly drowning and being attacked with balefire :D


:( I feel your pain...I don't know what I'd do if my friends who know what WoT is weren't around any more...
*'Moot-hugs Acally*
*'Moot-hugs Curub back*
Thank you. It bites 'cause I can't just walk up to someone and say something only a WoT fan would know.

[Curubethion]

You mean like "Dovie'andi se tovya sagain", or "Blood 'n bloody ashes!!"? :D

[Tessar]

I finished the most recent book not too long ago (Knife of Dreams, I think), and I thought it was really excellent! I know a lot of people found it boring, but I thought the whole thing was pretty exciting.

Except for the parts with Elayne... honestly, what a little wench.

"Oh, yea, like, 5000 soldiers died a horrible death b/cuz ov me being stupid, but liek it's okay b/cuz i can't die till mi babies r born! OMG LAWL!!!!"

I paraphrase, of course, but it's the general idea. :rolleyes:

[Curubethion]

LOL, that's exactly how Elayne is!
If she ends up dying in the 12th book...I might actually laugh. :p

[Acalewia]

You mean like "Dovie'andi se tovya sagain", or "Blood 'n bloody ashes!!"? :D
And "The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills"

You guys suck.
I went to the libarey (sp) to renew CoS, but had to turn it in becase somebody requested it. Grrrr. All I needed was about another week :( I soooo need to buy my own copies of the books.

[Curubethion]

If I could only weave a gateway, I could send you my friend's copy...*sigh*

CoS is one of my favorite books, actually. The end part is really awesome. You also must've gotten into one of the biggest "eeew" plots in the book...pink ribbons, anyone? :eek:

[Acalewia]

Uh, not yet if the pink ribbon is a clue. Unless your talking bout the man eating Mist. That was kinda "eeew"

If a couple of Land Dwellers marry on a Sea Folk ship, would that be the equivalent of a Vegas wedding :D

And what the hell was that thing that Mat's medallion branded!?

[Curubethion]

Uh, not yet if the pink ribbon is a clue. Unless your talking bout the man eating Mist. That was kinda "eeew"
No, that's not what I was talking about...I see you didn't get to that part yet. You'll know when you've got to it. Trust me.
If a couple of Land Dwellers marry on a Sea Folk ship, would that be the equivalent of a Vegas wedding :D
*chuckle*
And what the hell was that thing that Mat's medallion branded!?
I think you learn more about him later in the book. If you want some specifics on him now...
He's what they call a gholam. Basically, it's a creature designed to kill Aes Sedai. It can't be touched by channeling, and is incredibly flexible and strong. It can squeeze under doors and through holes, and is able to rip someone's head off with its bare hands. Remember poor Harid Fel in his study?

[Acalewia]

No, that's not what I was talking about...I see you didn't get to that part yet. You'll know when you've got to it. Trust me.
I'm sure I will

I think you learn more about him later in the book. If you want some specifics on him now...
He's what they call a gholam. Basically, it's a creature designed to kill Aes Sedai. It can't be touched by channeling, and is incredibly flexible and strong. It can squeeze under doors and through holes, and is able to rip someone's head off with its bare hands. Remember poor Harid Fel in his study?
I read that yesterday on my lunch. I had been trying to figure out what that was since Fel. Now I know.
Or a throat, to be exact...
The Seanchan are coming! The Seanchan are coming! :p Now this is gonna get interesting with a dozens of women that can channel in Ebu Dar

[b.banner]

i like Elayne who i don't like is Egwene i would'nt mind her dying

[Curubethion]

Have you gotten to Book 11 yet? That's what really tipped the scales in Eg's favor for me. Trust me, she and Elayne really change in that book.

[brownjenkins]

I'm not a big Egwene fan either. She's too caught up in being an Aes Sedai to realize all the shortcomings of their organization. And you think she would know better after her experience with the wise ones.

That said, I haven't read Book 11 yet.

[Ireth]

I hope you don't mind me barging in, but I just started reading "WoT" book 1 and thought I needed a place to yell, "ITS BLOODY AMAZING !". So, here I am.

Thank you.

[Ireth]

Have you gotten to Book 11 yet? That's what really tipped the scales in Eg's favor for me. Trust me, she and Elayne really change in that book.


Anybody want a free downloadable e-book of Wot (any part) ?

Just PM me for the link will ya?

[Acalewia]

Ok. what is this "lets freak Rand out"? That was either a woman in a man's body or a woman that had weaved a Mask of Mirriors In case you haven't noticed I just finished CoS. I'm not too sure bout the outcome of Rand's duel, though

[Acalewia]

Ok remember in DR when Min had that viewing of Perrin with a falcon and a hawk on his shoulders. The Falcon is Faile, but why hasn't anybody realized that Berlain(sp) is the Hawk? (Mayne's sign is a golden hawk iirc) I thought it was obvious, but Perrin and Min haven't put two and two together yet.

Btw, what was the Viewing of Moriane that is the only one of Min's viewings that was wrong?

[Curubethion]

I'm not a big Egwene fan either. She's too caught up in being an Aes Sedai to realize all the shortcomings of their organization. And you think she would know better after her experience with the wise ones.

That said, I haven't read Book 11 yet.
Trust me, I think you might change your mind after that book.
Ok remember in DR when Min had that viewing of Perrin with a falcon and a hawk on his shoulders. The Falcon is Faile, but why hasn't anybody realized that Berlain(sp) is the Hawk? (Mayne's sign is a golden hawk iirc) I thought it was obvious, but Perrin and Min haven't put two and two together yet.
Because nobody in WoT is intelligent enough... :p Seriously, the reader puts two and two together WAY before any characters put them together. Note that the reason for the Hawk symbol is Artur Hawkwing.

[Acalewia]

Because nobody in WoT is intelligent enough... :p Seriously, the reader puts two and two together WAY before any characters put them together. Note that the reason for the Hawk symbol is Artur Hawkwing.
:D

Btw, what was the Viewing of Moriane that is the only one of Min's viewings that was wrong?
Anybody know?

[Curubethion]

Wait...is this a trivia question or an "I don't know the answer, so I'm asking you" question?

[brownjenkins]

Btw, what was the Viewing of Moriane that is the only one of Min's viewings that was wrong?

It's not 100% clear and I'll avoid any real spoilers with speculation, but I think the point is that:

a) Min accepts Morriane as dead after going through the doorway.

and

b) She has had a viewing about her that hadn't come true.

So, either the viewing was wrong, or...

[Acalewia]

Ahh, so its a wait and find out thing. That clears it up a bit, bj. Not much but enough

[Curubethion]

It all will become clear after Book 11...

(Ah, this is such fun! :p )

[Acalewia]

It all will become clear after Book 11...

(Ah, this is such fun! :p )
I should hope so.

What is such fun? Me trying to figure stuff out?

[Curubethion]

Wow, now I've made so many WoT references as to annoy the friend who introduced WoT to me in the first place! :D

It's funny...I think I could come up with a reference for every single occasion!

[Acalewia]

Try it on people who don't know what you are talking about. Its funny to see the blank looks on their faces.

I have taken three WoT quizzes and each one says im someone different. One said I was Rand, one said I was Brigget (is that spelled right), and one said I was Egwene. Weird.

Oh btw I started PoD

[brownjenkins]

I just started CoT. I think I may make it through this time. :D

[b.banner]

Try it on people who don't know what you are talking about. Its funny to see the blank looks on their faces.

I have taken three WoT quizzes and each one says im someone different. One said I was Rand, one said I was Brigget (is that spelled right), and one said I was Egwene. Weird.

Oh btw I started PoD
that happened to me to first i was Loial then i was Birgitte! i wish i had gotten Rand

[Curubethion]

I just started CoT. I think I may make it through this time. :D
All right! Let me tell you, KoD is definitely worth it! And Perrin does get a good character-development scene in CoT. Good luck with all the politics...yet another reason to hate Elayne... :p
I have taken three WoT quizzes and each one says im someone different. One said I was Rand, one said I was Brigget (is that spelled right), and one said I was Egwene. Weird.
Not really wierd...all those personality tests are different, anyway. I think on the Wotmania test, I was identified as Logain. Go figure... :D
Oh btw I started PoD
Well, good luck. That one makes you somewhat angry at parts...

[Acalewia]

Not really wierd...all those personality tests are different, anyway. I think on the Wotmania test, I was identified as Logain. Go figure... :D
Was that the one you posted here?
Well, good luck. That one makes you somewhat angry at parts...
If I could quit getting sidetracked, I would see :o I think when I finally finish it I'm going to take a little break.

[b.banner]

anyone know what micro heroes are? here are some WoT micro's i made Perrin and Aviendah

[Acalewia]

Those are really good!

[Curubethion]

Pretty cool...I love the Perrin one!

[b.banner]

i'm working on Rand, Elayne and Mat i'll post them when i'm done

[Curubethion]

No, not Elayne! :p Ah, well...

By the way...when A Memory of Light is finished, who's wearing yellow contacts when they go to buy it? :D

[Acalewia]

Besides you, huh? :D :p

[Curubethion]

Why, of course! :D

Wow, it's so fun to know people who read WoT. The other day, one of them was mentioning drilling a bore in something, and I just started laughing out loud. He also reads WoT, so he got my reference immediately-yeah, he's getting slightly annoyed now. :D

[Acalewia]

I have decided to take a break from WoT for a little while. I think I've ODed on it for now.

When I start back up, I'll pick up where I left off in PoD

[Curubethion]

*gasp*

Hmm...I think I'll start a betting pool on how long it takes for your WoT withdrawal to begin... :p

1 week, anyone? Five days? 12 HOURS??? :D

[Acalewia]

*gasp*

Hmm...I think I'll start a betting pool on how long it takes for your WoT withdrawal to begin... :p

1 week, anyone? Five days? 12 HOURS??? :D
ROFLMAO. You'll be the first to know when I start back up :D :p

[b.banner]

i can't post the micro heroes anymore my computer broke down now i have to use the library's computers :(

[brownjenkins]

I finally finished CoT, and I still don't like it. :p

That said, I just started Knife of Dreams and enjoyed the first scene with Galad a lot. I was wondering if that angle would ever be addressed. Good to see.

[Curubethion]

Hey, congrats on making it through CoT! We should seriously make a T-shirt: "I survived CoT". KoD is really much better. I also loved Embers Falling on Dry Grass...that was a really cool scene. You also get one of the best and biggest fantasy battles I've seen in a while.

[b.banner]

anyone read this article in Forbes magazine it's great! :D http://www.forbes.com/2006/11/30/robert-jordan-illness-tech-media_cx_hc_books06_1201jordan.html (http://)

[Curubethion]

Yep, I saw that on Wotmania...it's really cool! I love RJ's whole take on this thing.

[Acalewia]

I've started on Path of Daggers

[b.banner]

then you will be reading Winter's Heart next one of my favorites! :D

[Curubethion]

Hooray! You're doing PoD! Don't worry, the next book is much better...

[Acalewia]

Hooray! You're doing PoD! Don't worry, the next book is much better...
:D I started yesterday. I'm on chapter one now.

[Acalewia]

You know, I didn't think you could take apart a gateway :confused: Of course it makes a good weapon :evil:
I would have never thought of that.

Curub, you did say Jordan forgets about Mat in this book ,didn't you?

[Curubethion]

Yeah, I think I did. Which is sad. :( Then again, he did have his best scenes in Crown of Swords, IMO.

Man, it's been a while since I read those books.

[brownjenkins]

Curub, you did say Jordan forgets about Mat in this book ,didn't you?

He get's left hanging for a bit. :D

But the last few books make up for it on his account.

[Acalewia]

Man, it's been a while since I read those books.
That's what you get for speedreading :p

Bout bleeping time Egwene decided to act like an Amerlyn!
For some reason I'm starting to think Sheram(sp), the Keeper, is a Darkfriend Of course I could be wrong. *shrugs*
What is it with me and trying to figure out who's a Darkfriend?
Of course, I'm sure one of the Forsaken is among the Black Tower

I'm almost finished with PoD. Only 12 chapters left. Is it me or is this book short, chapterwise?

[Acalewia]

Why isn't Lindrian on a leash? Is it becaue she is shielded?

[Curubethion]

Why isn't Lindrian on a leash? Is it becaue she is shielded?
You're so cruel, Acally! :p You speak like a Seanchen!

But yes, I'd assume that's the reason.

[Acalewia]

You're so cruel, Acally! :p You speak like a Seanchen!

But yes, I'd assume that's the reason.
That's what I'm told :p Thanks for the comment :D

[Curubethion]

Any more progress on it? I'm excited to hear when you get into Winter's Heart.

And remind me, was the Bowl of the Winds in PoD?

[Acalewia]

I can't seem to keep my concentration on it. :o

And yes the Bowl of the Winds is in PoD.

[brownjenkins]

I finished KoD a few weeks back. Definitely an improvement over the previous few.

Now WoT is back on hold for the next year or three. :D

[bropous]

Robert Jordan milked this substandard tale far too long.

I am sorry the guy has a terminal disease, it is terrible to hear.

This while thing could have been wrapped up in three or four volumes. Jordan flogging the dead horse over and over and over just left me flat. I can't even prise open the pocketbook for Knife of Dreams in paperback.

I abandoned this tale far past the point that my interest waned. The series started off well, if slowly, and I was buying and devouring the first few in pretty quick order. However, the whole story started falling apart, and the hundreds and thousands and tens of thousands of pages of complete literary dreck I have endured since the point of not caring, just holding on to the hope that it would get interesting again, was just me as Don Quixote tilting at windmills.

Jordan is pretty much like a lot of the fantasy I try to read these days. Too long, too dull, and far too enraptured with its own words. I would never recommend this overblown attempt at storytelling even to a person enduring a life sentence in prison. Even there, one would think there would be better uses of a person's time.

[b.banner]

a new author will finish "A Memory Of Light" Brandon Sanderson, don't worry he is Harriet approved.

http://www.tor-forge.com/NewsArticle.aspx?articleId=647
an interview
http://www.dragonmount.com/Books/Memory_of_Light/brandon_interview_01.php

[Curubethion]

Yes, I am rather interested to see where this goes. I hear he's gonna be very dedicated in his working.

[brownjenkins]

I wonder if it is still going to be around 2000 pages. :D

[b.banner]

i hope it will be i want nice long book o read!

[b.banner]

it looks like A Memory Of Light will be released November 2009! Can't wait!

http://www.dragonmount.com/News/

[Tessar]

I'M SO EXCITED!!!! :D

And sad. :( It's going to all be over! I've been reading that series since I was 12 or 13... it got me into writing my own stories more actively, it got me into text-based games called MUDs, and it's actually how I found out more about stuff like Dungeons and Dragons... oh man, those books changed my life. :(

[brownjenkins]

I'm psyched! It'll be a good excuse to re-read this summer.

[b.banner]

http://www.dragonmount.com/News/

A MEMORY OF LIGHT to be released in 3 volumes! Wow didn't see that coming!

[Earniel]

Economically fiendish. First they get the money from all three hard cover editions, then the money from the paperback editions, and then I'm pretty sure they'll publish a three-in-all. :rolleyes:

[b.banner]

they didn't do it for money Brandon Sanderson explains

http://www.brandonsanderson.com/article/56/Splitting-AMOL

[Earniel]

Sorry, but the series has gone on a little too long for me just to accept that money had absolutely nothing to do with this decision. ;)

(I'll end up buying all three for my dad anyway. :rolleyes: )

[b.banner]

it couldn't go on long enough for me :D

[Tessar]

(I'll end up buying all three for my dad anyway. :rolleyes: )

Meh, you're a sheep, just like me, and will buy however many novels with the name Wheel of Time on them that they choose to shove our way :p.


Now say "baaaah" :D.

[Earniel]

Not entirely, I've made myself a rule not to read series that haven't ended yet. (I very much dislike having to wait a year if not more, for the next installment while I probably don't remember half of what passed before by then.)

So I haven't read anything of the series yet. It's my dad who reads them, so we tend to buy the books for his birthdays and other gift-giving days. So I'm not a sheep, but more a shepherd for taking care of a sheep. :p

[b.banner]

i am rereading Eye Of The world

[b.banner]

just finished rereading The Great Hunt

[b.banner]

http://www.dragonmount.com/News/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/tgs_us_book_cover01.jpg


the cover art!

[nasuada]

I've just started reading the fifth book, and of course I like it already even though I am only in the first chapter.:D

[Tessar]

There's a part of me that goes, "FOR THE LOVE OF CHEESE, can't they give the artist directions like, 'don't make Wheel of Time look like a cheesy romance novel'?"

Then there's the other tiny part of me that goes, "OMG ANOTHER CHEESY ROMANCE-NOVEL COVER! IT'S JUST LIKE THE OLD DAYS!"


...

[Earniel]

Well, I wasn't going to say anything but...

<.<

>.>

pretty cheesy, but definitely retro. :D

[b.banner]

Almost done with my reread of The Dragon Reborn, and I gotta say Robert Jordan was a master of foreshadowing. I mean Egwene has dreams about things that don't happen till books 9-11!

[b.banner]

I finished my reread of The Shadow Rising definitely one of the best of the series I am now into Fires Of Heaven also a great installment!

[b.banner]

The titles for books 13 and 14 have been decided!
So it will be

The Gathering Storm on October 27, 2009
Towers of Midnight in 2010
A Memory of Light in 2011

http://www.dragonmount.com/News/

[b.banner]

Tor.com has chapters 1 and 2 online to read or listen to, also the prologue is available to buy!

http://www.dragonmount.com/News/

[b.banner]

I got it! I now own The Gathering Storm!

[Tessar]

CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW AWESOME THIS BOOK IS?!!?

I'm about half way through and I am LOVING it!!!!! :D

[b.banner]

I think this one is the best one since Lord of Chaos! Though Knife of Dreams and Winter's Heart were great. My favorite part so far is
When Rand has a conversation with Moridin in Chapter 15 A Place To Begin:D

[Tessar]

THIS BOOK WAS AMAAAAAAAAAAZING!!! It was everything I dreamed it would be and then some extra :D. Particularly the last fourth or so was just filled with moving scenes and incredible, incredible action-packed good times.

I. Love. This. Book. Definitely ranks high on the list of 'best WOT books' in my mind. :) Maybe THE best, except for book one.

[Jkoz035]

The only thing awesome about this book was that it finally arrived. Sanderson made Mat sound like a serious tool-container.

[Tessar]

I've always though of Mat as being a bit of a tool :p. I mean from the very start I was 'meh' about Mat... I mean from the very beginning he was complaining, then he was always getting in trouble, then he was greedy and stole the dagger from Shadar Logoth and that just spun out into a world of trouble, then he was a dumbass and almost got himself killed by going through the second archway and getting himself hung by the aelfin or eelfin or whatever they were... Then he's always a 'player' with the ladies, and he's Tylen's boy-toy for a while, and etc.... I've never been a huge Mat fan, although I've never particularly 'hated' his scenes either.

[b.banner]

Rand>Perrin=Mat

My favorites, Rand is greater than Perrin who is equal to Mat! :D

[Comic Book Guy]

THIS BOOK WAS AMAAAAAAAAAAZING!!! It was everything I dreamed it would be and then some extra :D. Particularly the last fourth or so was just filled with moving scenes and incredible, incredible action-packed good times.

I. Love. This. Book. Definitely ranks high on the list of 'best WOT books' in my mind. :) Maybe THE best, except for book one.

I was very impressed by this volume as well, Sanderson is a better writer than Jordan was, technically anyway.

[Tessar]

I was very impressed by this volume as well, Sanderson is a better writer than Jordan was, technically anyway.

Hmmm, I don't personally agree with that statement. I did enjoy Robert Jordan's writing style, I think the only problem is that it all dragged out too long.

I will certainly agree that Sanderson is a fantastic writer though :).

[b.banner]

Towers of Midnight cover

http://www.dragonmount.com/News/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/TowersofMidnight_us_hardcover.jpg

[Tessar]

Towers of Midnight cover

http://www.dragonmount.com/News/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/TowersofMidnight_us_hardcover.jpg

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! YAY! YAY! YAAAAAAAY!!!!!! :D

[b.banner]

Official Towers of Midnight book trailer, this is no fake! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apJJ0NzOXEg&feature=player_embedded

[Comic Book Guy]

The prologue of the next book has recently been released, I didn't download it, but I shamefully looked at a fan site's discussion thread. Intriguing... There is a major,major (major major?) spoiler to be found if anyone reading this thread is tempted themselves to have a look

There is also appears a well connected mega fan who has been entrusted with a read of the entire book and his review is expected to be up soon. His review of the last book came out months before it's official release, although obviously it's entirely spoiler free.

My expectations are mixed. It appears that the major plot lines and characters are taking a back seat (I'm basing this judgement on nothing but the released synopsis) and the dreadfully dull characters such as Morgase and Elayne are revived with their torturous narratives to be resolved. I can only hope they are dealt with in a perfunctory fashion.

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I got my copy of Towers of Midnight and am now reading it!

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So I guess A Memory of Light will come out next year. On Brandonsanderson.com it's says 90% finished so we'll see.

[Tessar]

Whelp. Wheel of Time is over.

The final book left me with an enormous feeling of WTF, SANDERSON!? but... meh. Just left me feeling really down about the characters who ended up biting it in the end, and I was so disappointed in how they handled the ending of Rand's story... plus confused.

Some good writing, but I could've done without the whole thing just being one enormous, drawn out battle scene.

Still probably the most influential fantasy series for my life growing up, but I found the ending disappointing in a lot of ways.

[Earniel]

My dad didn't particularly liked the ending much either. But if that's the one Jordan had planned, well, not much to do about it.

At least, now that it's finished, I can start reading. (I dislike reading unfinished series and so prefer to wait them out.)

[Tessar]

I loved this series so much, and the ending just makes me want to kick someone in the no-nos. :p

Still... outside of the ending I do love the series. I would highly recommend reading.

[Earniel]

I think I will, once I've cleared my bedside table from the other books. It's a flimsy table, so I don't think it can support one of those big honking Wheel of Time volumes with any other books there!

Would you recommend to start at the first part or read the prequel first?

[Tessar]

Start at book 1. I never found the prequel to be engaging, and in fact I don't believe he ever "finished" it... I think it was supposed to be a prequel trilogy? Anyways... read that after all the other books, IMO. It spoils the character Moraine if you read it first, I feel. Sort of like if you got a glimpse of Gandalf as a pimple faced teenager before you read The Hobbit... mystique ruined. Lol

[Earniel]

That indeed doesn't sound too appealing to start the series with... :glance: Book one it is, then!

[Midge]

I've just started this series. My boss cannot extol the praises of Brandon Sanderson, and I'm super intrigued to read his books, but of course I can't start with Book 11 or whichever one he started writing. I like it, but with a full-time job, a baby and a husband (not to mention the Internet, a smartphone and Netflix) I rarely find time to read.

That does sadden me, but I like the book so far. I'm only like 100 pages in or so.