Why is there no mention of...

[gdl96]

In the movie, why is there no reference to "Nine Fingered Frodo"? I always liked that little conversation in the book and such about how Frodo would be remembered. Anybody else disapointed about this?

I have a feeling that there will at least be some mention of this in the rumored 5 hour EE DVD.

[Finrod Felagund]

I also ejoyed that exchange, and how then the tale was actually told, and Sam was all so excited.

[Nurvingiel]

That part was cool. Go nameless minstrel of Gondor! I guess that was just another neglected detail. No room for everything or whatever.

[Dúnedain]

Well if you watch the movies and then read the books right after again you really catch a lot of lines that they did use and didn't even know. I started to re-read the whole series again right after I watched all of the movies when RotK came out and I have realized that they put a ton of lines into the movie that I didn't even remember were from the book. Granted this one wasn't in it, but they did a good job with a lot of other things as far as book lines go :D

[matthew]

Speaking of omissions, is anyone other than me ready to sue pj over the disappearance of the scouring of the shire? I loved the movie, but the omission bothered me. if its not in the EE i will be realy mad!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Elf Girl]

It's not in the EE. It was never shot. (It didn't bother me, I knew about it a year or so in advance so I was prepared.)

Dúnedain: We aren't discussing how great they did with all the other lines. We're discussing this particular line.

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by Elf Girl
Dúnedain: We aren't discussing how great they did with all the other lines. We're discussing this particular line.

Wow you're a quick one Mr. Grinch. It's called a comment...

[Aragorn_iz_cool]

They had that as a song on the cartoon ROTK. Thay played it 10 million times. After hearing that, I'm glad it wasn't in the movie! (Although I do want it in the extended edition, but not as a song, as a comment or something)

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by matthew
Speaking of omissions, is anyone other than me ready to sue pj over the disappearance of the scouring of the shire? I loved the movie, but the omission bothered me. if its not in the EE i will be realy mad!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: There is actually a thread about that somewhere. A lot of people were choked.

I wasn't amazingly upset over this omission, and they did include part of the story-telling theme at the end of TTT. Now I can't remember what Sam said, but I think it was along the lines of that theme.

Dúnedain, I'm almost done re-reading the series too, and I also noticed a lot of lines. I do appreciate everthing from the book that they included. Sometimes, we don't notice this in the movie because they were so natural and well-done. We do notice out of place lines or stunts because they shock and grab out attention.

I do appreciate all the book lines. I think Nine Fingered Frodo would have been a good addition to the book line line-up. :)

[Fimbrethil]

It's not in my sig anymore and I'm not sayin you should stop be angery or discussing the movie I'm jsut saying give PJ a little break after all : "If the movie had been more like the book the nwe would have been happier yes, but would we have liked it better?"

I was rather peeved about the scouring and Nine Fingered Frodo, but what got me was Merry and Pip were more or less the same size they always were. And no one even mentioned they would be remembered as the tallest hobbits ever in the Shire.

Please don't be angery about what I said above.

[Nurvingiel]

Perhaps we are to negative sometimes Fim. The fact that the movies are worth nitpicking is a credit to Jackson. I also did enjoy them very much. It's just that there are things from the book that would have been done well had they appeared in the movie, and I would have liked to see more. This is also a credit to Jackson. :)

[Nariel]

and kids, why didn't they say anything about merry and pip being bigger?

Because they didn't mention Merry and Pip drinking the entjuice, that's why.

And there wouldn't have been any point in mentioning that Merry and pip were bigger, had longer hair and hairier feet, if the viewer didn't know why that was.

But the fact that they left Saruman so open-ended was disturbing to me.

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by Nariel
and kids, why didn't they say anything about merry and pip being bigger?

Because they didn't mention Merry and Pip drinking the entjuice, that's why.


Actually they did in the Two Towers Extended Edition...

It is weird though, cuz in some scenes they are bigger than the others and in others they are the same height...

[Fat middle]

Originally posted by gdl96
In the movie, why is there no reference to "Nine Fingered Frodo"? I always liked that little conversation in the book and such about how Frodo would be remembered. Anybody else disapointed about this?

I have a feeling that there will at least be some mention of this in the rumored 5 hour EE DVD.

Yep. It's a pity they didn't included that line. BTW, did any of you notice if Frodo had really 9 or 10 fingers in the last scenes? When he's writing the book it seems he has them all...

Another thing I missed was a refference to Gollum's role after he's done his great jump. I think Frodo had said something before, as in the book, but I would have liked to see him or Gandalf explaining at the end since it's one of the most important points of the book.

[Fimbrethil]

AH...but that should be in my blooper thread. I don't know perhaps your right Nariel it would have been nice to see it but confusing to all the dumb little people who are to stuborn to read the books. Please ignore the dumb part I'm in a slightly bad mood. It happens when people who have not read the books try to explain things to you when you know you are right because you have just read that particular chapter in the book. *continues ranting* Ah, Nurvingiel yo udo have to be rasonible don't you? Thank you for not getting angery though I jsut felt the need to defend some of the better made decions by PJ. :D

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by Fat middle
Yep. It's a pity they didn't included that line. BTW, did any of you notice if Frodo had really 9 or 10 fingers in the last scenes? When he's writing the book it seems he has them all...

I looked for it and he only had 9 fingers at the end...

[Fat middle]

Okey, thanks.

[Thorin II]

Dúnedain is right. When Frodo is finishing his portion of Bilbo's book, he's missing a most of his left index finger.

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Dúnedain
Well if you watch the movies and then read the books right after again you really catch a lot of lines that they did use and didn't even know. I started to re-read the whole series again right after I watched all of the movies when RotK came out and I have realized that they put a ton of lines into the movie that I didn't even remember were from the book. Granted this one wasn't in it, but they did a good job with a lot of other things as far as book lines go :D
Wow it's great - the "writers" figured out how to cut and paste. :rolleyes: Too bad they couldn't cut and paste the heart and soul of Lord of the Rings. Too bad a more accomplished director who didn't just drop plot lines from the story after having them started (Saruman, Pippin and Merry growing) didn't do Lord of the Rings. The movies have so much to be desired - especially when you view them back to back.

And yes - I missed nine fihngered Frodo - not to mention the fact that not even his WHOLE finger was bitten off. How many people only wear their rings up to the first knuckle? :rolleyes:

[squinteyedsoutherner]

not to mention the fact that not even his WHOLE finger was bitten off. How many people only wear their rings up to the first knuckle?

true,

but then movie Sauron doesn't even have a hand. :rolleyes:

[Heather Wooltoes]

What has always bothered me is Sauron's 9 fingers in the book. How the heck do you chop off ONLY one finger with a freakin sword??

(yeah I know, it's a book comment and kinda off-topic but I've been bugged by da durned thing since I was 10 and I didn't think it needed it's own thread)

[Nurvingiel]

I think they had only half his finget bitten off so they could make the scar look grosser. (Weren't all of Jackson's previous movies B-rate horrors? That explains the excessive amounts of camera given to the jello-coloured undead army.)