COOL People THread

[gdl96]

And by COOL, I mean those of you who LIKE what Jackson has done with the movies and are greatly looking forward to ROTK.

In this sense, I am way COOL. Who else is COOL?

Maybe it's because I don't have as much of an emotional attatchment to the books. I saw FOTR when I was almost finished with the book, and I finished the other two books well before TTT came out. So I can kind of see where purists are coming from who have read the book many times over many years.

But seriously, lighten up. They're just movies. And damn good ones at that. And there are a few changes I didn't care for (warg battle and aragorn's death) but that is not enough to ruin the other 6+ hours for me. And I get annoyed when people go around bitching about how it isn't faithful and crap. So what? It's PJ's movie, not yours. I really don't think any one of you little whiners can do a better job than him.

But this thread is for COOL people only.

[bropous]

Guess I'm uncool, bro, but everyone has a right to an opinion.

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by gdl96
And by COOL, I mean those of you who LIKE what Jackson has done with the movies and are greatly looking forward to ROTK.

In this sense, I am way COOL. Who else is COOL?

I'm cool and extremely intelligent because I'm able to see through jackson's hype and propaganda. The JLA - Jackson Lovers Anonymous meeting is in the next thread though. It will cure you of your problem of erroneously thinking you are cool.

Maybe it's because I don't have as much of an emotional attatchment to the books. I saw FOTR when I was almost finished with the book, and I finished the other two books well before TTT came out. So I can kind of see where purists are coming from who have read the book many times over many years.

Could be. You were obvioulsy never a fan then.

But seriously, lighten up. They're just movies. And damn good ones at that. And there are a few changes I didn't care for (warg battle and aragorn's death) but that is not enough to ruin the other 6+ hours for me. And I get annoyed when people go around bitching about how it isn't faithful and crap. So what? It's PJ's movie, not yours. I really don't think any one of you little whiners can do a better job than him.

I don't really care if no one could do a better job of him though. I think that Jackson however did a crappy job. The movies should have been far more intelligent instead of the simplistic action films they are. If it wasn't for the name - they wouldn't be getting as much attention as they do.

By the way - I like the flame from an Admin. :rolleyes:

you little whiners


But this thread is for COOL people only.
As I said - I'm cool. :)

But I suggest you get over yourself. Just because you like the films - doesn't mean they are good films. After Star Wars - the Star Wars movies went down hill. I'm not going to defend the hack of Lucas either - just because a bunch of people like them.

You might consider yourself cool - but it takes absolutely no brains to watch the movies. Any brainless idiot can watch the movies and enjoy them.

[gdl96]

I am so cool.

But maybe I could have layed off the flaming. Sorry. Although it wasn't really directed at anyone in particular. Just at a group of people. Kinda like racism, except with LOTR fans, and not with races.

I am uber cool.




:p

[gimli7410]

i wouldnt say im cool but i like his movies im sure i would have enjoyed the books more had i read them before i saw the movie but since i have seen the movie first the books arent that good

[Black Breathalizer]

whoohooo...Par-tay Time!!!

Where's the keg and who's got the remote? It's time to watch some LOTR, baby!!!

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
whoohooo...Par-tay Time!!!

Where's the keg and who's got the remote? It's time to watch some LOTR, baby!!!
Go read the books already. :p

greg - didn't think the flame was directed at anyone in particular. But you, as admin, should know that flaming is not allowed. :p Oh and I do NOT like racism.

[gimli7410]

Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
whoohooo...Par-tay Time!!!

Where's the keg and who's got the remote? It's time to watch some LOTR, baby!!!


i dont have the keg but i sure as hell have the doobies:D

[Katie of the Golden Wood]

Yay! Thanks for starting this gdl96. (You're doubly cool too...because you're from Jersey :) )

I've read the books seven times, several of them before I ever knew a movie was going to be made. I LOVE the movies. I think people just say they hate the movies because they think it makes them a better fan of the books.

Katie

[brownjenkins]

i've read the books more times than i care to count... along with just about every other tolkien-related book... i can't think of another author i enjoy more

i really enjoyed the first two movies and will probably enjoy the last one... i try to see it as a movie, not a movie of a book... almost all book adaptations to the screen that most consider classics vary greatly from the book (The Shining, Lawrence of Arabia, To Kill a Mockingbird)... that is part of what makes them great movies

i won't go so far as to say LoTR ranks among those classics, but it's extremely good, especially for a fantasy movie

i agree with the original poster, lighten up and try to see past the "but it's not like the book" whine

[Black Breathalizer]

Who burned the hole in the sofa with their pipeweed ashes??!?!?! And who left all these damn lembas crumbs on the floor?!?!?!

Hey, guys, it's okay to have a cool people party but let's TRY not to totally trash gdl96's place here, okay?

Is jerseydevil still here? He left? How come? Oh, don't tell me, let me guess. We just got to the flight to the ford scene in FOTR, right?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Black Breathalizer

Is jerseydevil still here? He left? How come? Oh, don't tell me, let me guess. We just got to the flight to the ford scene in FOTR, right?

(to paraphrase "The Virginian")

Hey BB, SMILIE when you say that... :D

[Melko Belcha]

Originally posted by gdl96
It's PJ's movie, not yours.

But it is Tolkien's story, characters, and world, not PJ's.

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Katie of the Golden Wood
I've read the books seven times, several of them before I ever knew a movie was going to be made. I LOVE the movies. I think people just say they hate the movies because they think it makes them a better fan of the books.

That has nothign to do with it. I don't like the newest star wars that much either. I give those movies a C too. Terminator 3 - C. A Beautiful Mind an A. The movies just weren't that great. They had great scenary, great music and they had great acting (for the most part). The director and writers whoever gave us Arwen and the Flight to the Ford, Theoden Exorcism. They gave us the dwarf jokes and the town idiots Pippin and Merry. They gave us a Treebeard who didn't know what was happening in his own forest - a forest TOLKIEN made very clear he would know everything that is going on in.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by Katie of the Golden Wood
I've read the books seven times, several of them before I ever knew a movie was going to be made. I LOVE the movies. I think people just say they hate the movies because they think it makes them a better fan of the books.

With all due respect, Katie, that is bull pucky, and I cannot see why anyone would draw that conclusion, except out of some form of condecension. :) I dislike any poor adaptation of a book; my favourite Dracula movie is Bram Stoker's Dracula. Of the half-dozen or so that I've seen, that is theclosest to the movies. They needlessly gorified and oversexed that adaptation, but the story is still the closest. I just grimace through the gore, and fast-forward past the sex. I didn't like the new Count of Monte Cristo; IMO, the ending ruined the whole movie, because it destroyed any real or serious ramifications of Edmond's path of vengeance. My dislike of the movie has NOTHING to do with "wanting to be cool". I have felt since before TTT came out that they were poor adaptations; however, I didn't mind the movies, and enjoyed them as separate from the books. I have since been subjected to the most far-out comments constantly, stating that the movies were the absolute best anyone could have done, and that they are better than the book; this shock treatment has virtually destroyed my ability to separate the two. To me, Tolkien's Lord of the Rings is a supreme story; and I mean that. I believe that it may very well be the best story ever written. Heck, me being a superstitious fool, I go so far as to believe that Tolkien's work was divinely inspired to a degree. Also, Tolkien is my personal role model. To see such utter disrespect for his work, and often going directly against his expressly stated wishes if it were to be made into a movie, really puts me out. It does NOT have to do thinking that makes me a better fan. :rolleyes:

Okay, rant over; since all who refuse to bow before Jackson have been officially labelled uncool and "drab and awful" by an admin, I will let you all continue unbothered by a jerk such as myself, who only pretends to dislike the movies because I think it makes me cool.

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
With all due respect, Katie, that is bull pucky, and I cannot see why anyone would draw that conclusion, except out of some form of condecension. :) I dislike any poor adaptation of a book; my favourite Dracula movie is Bram Stoker's Dracula. Of the half-dozen or so that I've seen, that is theclosest to the movies. They needlessly gorified and oversexed that adaptation, but the story is still the closest. I just grimace through the gore, and fast-forward past the sex.

I didn't like Bram Stoker's Dracula. I didn't think it matched the book and I thought Dracula looked terrible. I have read Dracula several times and I still think that Bela Lugosi's version was the best. There were sometings removed and not everything was accurate - but the majority of it it straight from the book.

My dislike of the movie has NOTHING to do with "wanting to be cool". I have felt since before TTT came out that they were poor adaptations; however, I didn't mind the movies, and enjoyed them as separate from the books. I have since been subjected to the most far-out comments constantly, stating that the movies were the absolute best anyone could have done, and that they are better than the book; this shock treatment has virtually destroyed my ability to separate the two.

I have always disliked the movies -b ut at least they were palatable. But you brought up the points that the movie fans, and BB in particular, have been saying for the past year. This is why I am so pissed and frankly tired of it. people can blame me, but if you notice - the people complaining about my comments haven't been here for ages or else they are new.

To me, Tolkien's Lord of the Rings is a supreme story; and I mean that. I believe that it may very well be the best story ever written. Heck, me being a superstitious fool, I go so far as to believe that Tolkien's work was divinely inspired to a degree. Also, Tolkien is my personal role model. To see such utter disrespect for his work, and often going directly against his expressly stated wishes if it were to be made into a movie, really puts me out. It does NOT have to do thinking that makes me a better fan. :rolleyes:

Exactly - especially since jackson kept making those statements we all know are false now. He tried selling us a rolls royce and it ended up being a honda. Not all of us are happy with the bait and switch tactic.

Okay, rant over; since all who refuse to bow before Jackson have been officially labelled uncool and "drab and awful" by an admin, I will let you all continue unbothered by a jerk such as myself, who only pretends to dislike the movies because I think it makes me cool.
You're not uncool - you're enlightened and not easily swayed by mass marketing gimics.

[Falagar]

You know, who needs the movies? These threads are much more entertaining (and they also give you a chance to participate, to take an active part in the story - can't believe Jackson never thought of that).

[gdl96]

Once again I apologize for my flaming. I am an admin, and I should lead by example.




But I'm still so cool that I need a sweater. Brrrr :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by gdl96
Once again I apologize for my flaming. I am an admin, and I should lead by example.




But I'm still so cool that I need a sweater. Brrrr :D Okay Mr. Cool, why don't you show me some of those cool admin abilities and help me get this forum under control, lazy boy.:p

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by gdl96
Once again I apologize for my flaming. I am an admin, and I should lead by example.

Apology accepted - now don't let it happen again. Unless of course you are agreeing with me. :p


But I'm still so cool that I need a sweater. Brrrr :D
That's not because you are "cool" - it's because we're in the process of getting 12 inches of snow. :p

[mithrand1r]

Originally posted by jerseydevil

That's not because you are "cool" - it's because we're in the process of getting 12 inches of snow. :p

Fortunately I live closer to the Atlantic Ocean in Ocean County.

We will probably only get 5-9 inches (12½-23cm) of snow.

It still is cold though. About 26°F (-2.5°C)

On the plus side, one can always go skiing. :p


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[BeardofPants]

Eh, I never liked cliques anyway. *proudly uncool, and unhip.* :p

[mithrand1r]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Eh, I never liked cliques anyway. *proudly uncool, and unhip.* :p

Next, you will tell us that you are an individual like the rest of us. ;) :p

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by jerseydevil
I didn't like Bram Stoker's Dracula. I didn't think it matched the book and I thought Dracula looked terrible. I have read Dracula several times and I still think that Bela Lugosi's version was the best. There were sometings removed and not everything was accurate - but the majority of it it straight from the book.

Really? That certainly surprises me. It seemed to me that most of Bram Stoker's Dracula was straight from the book. Bela Lugosi's was one of the worse transgressors, from my PoV; the loony going to Dracula, for instance. I thought BSD's albeit slightly wierd image better fit the old man than the dashing vampire image instituted with Bela.

[Rosie Gamgee]

Could I ask something? WHY in Middle-earth does every one of these threads turn into a bashing forum where we can flame fellow fans of a great work?? This is rediculous and immature! Everybody already knows where JD and his loyal compatriots stand, and everyone already knows where BB and his comrades stand. Why bother re-hashing the same darn stuff? As far as I gleaned from the opening post in this thread, this thread is for those who like and appreciate what Peter Jackson has done. This isn't a debate thread.
That said (btw, sorry if I sounded rude), I am way cool! I love the films. I think PJ did a wonderful job on the two that I have seen. I'm looking very much forward to the next movie.
Peter Jackson is a genius. I mean, his genius looks like a hill of beans next to Tolkien's genius, but I still credit him.

p.s. That does not make me a mindless idiot simply because I enjoy the movies.

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Rosie Gamgee
... WHY in Middle-earth does every one of these threads turn into a bashing forum where we can flame fellow fans of a great work?? This is rediculous and immature!
I think you mean "ridiculous" not "rediculous".
I really haven't seen anything that constitues actual flaming at this forum. Or did I miss something fun? ;) :p
Everybody already knows where JD and his loyal compatriots stand, and everyone already knows where BB and his comrades stand. Why bother re-hashing the same darn stuff? As far as I gleaned from the opening post in this thread, this thread is for those who like and appreciate what Peter Jackson has done. This isn't a debate thread.
It seems that any thread that is opened that has a counter opinion to "Jackson is the greatest thing since sliced bread... *girlish giggle*" get's closed.
That said (btw, sorry if I sounded rude),
*rereads the post* ... errr...huh? rude? :confused:
I am way cool! I love the films. I think PJ did a wonderful job on the two that I have seen. I'm looking very much forward to the next movie.
Peter Jackson is a genius. I mean, his genius looks like a hill of beans next to Tolkien's genius, but I still credit him.

p.s. That does not make me a mindless idiot simply because I enjoy the movies. [/B] I find the use of the phrase "Peter Jackson is a genius" to be offensive and flame baiting. Anyone else with me? :) Perhaps this thread should be closed. ;) :)

[Sister Golden Hair]

This thread along with others is being closed in the interest of applying and enforcing the new rules in this forum.

Closing.