Favorite Scenes from TTT Extended Edition...

[Dúnedain]

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I see in the other threads, there really isn't anything that goes into the favorite new scenes or extended scenes. Please don't post complaints, that is pretty well covered in the other threads.

Which new scenes and extended scenes are your favorite?

For me, there are 3 scenes that I really liked and wished they were in the theatrical release.

The first one is "The Heir of Númenor", where Gandalf speaks to Aragorn of how Sauron fears him and how the enemy doesn't realize that Frodo travels into Mordor with the ring they are looking for. This is a great setup for not only the story but also a tie in for when Pippin looks into the palantir in RotK movie...

The second is "One of the Dúnedain" where Eowyn is speaking to Aragorn. She mentions that Theoden said that Aragorn went to war beside King Thengel, Theoden's father, and she didn't believe it because Aragorn doesn't appear to be as old as that would make him. They then talk about his true age, which is 87, and she is blown away by it. She then ties that into who Aragorn is, being one of the Northern Dúnedain that is...

The third scene is "Sons of the Steward". It takes place after Gondor reclaims Osgiliath and Boromir and Faramir are celebrating their victory. You really get to see how much the brothers really loved one another and you also get to see how much they hate thier father, Denethor, as he is in the scene as well. It is mainly a flashback scene, because after they reclaimed Osgiliath Boromir goes off to Rivendell for the Council of Elrond...


I really enjoyed the Extended Edition of the Two Towers, because it includes things that would have made the theatrical version much better than it was. I don't think this movie would have caught as much flack and complaints if some of these scenes were included. There is also a scene that cleans up the bit about that horse "Brego" that saves Aragorn, I know that intially drew a lot of crap for being such a random scene :D

So, what scenes did you like?

[cassiopeia]

I agree, the scene where Aragorn tames Brego makes Aragorn's 'death' a little easier to bear.

My favourite scene is the at the beginning, where Sam and Frodo climb down the cliff. Sam drops his seasoning, and Frodo catches it. They then talk about 'roast chicken'. I really think they needed more Sam and Frodo scenes in the theatrical version.

[zinnite]

I have to agree with you Dúnedain, those were my favorite new scenes as well, especially "The Heir of Númenor."

I also liked the "Flotsam and Jetsam" scene.

The Huorns were very cool, although way too brief.

[Dúnedain]

Yeah the Huorn scene was cool too, I thought it was way too short as well, but at least we have it now lol :D

[Tuor of Gondolin]

From a cursory viewing it seems that generally the new and extended scenes with the ents/hobbits are improvements, although even there there are needless inversions/switches (Merry and Pippin drink entdraughts against the advice of Treebeard when in reality he offered it to them).

Single best improvements were the elfrope scene, virtually perfect, Dunedain background with Eowyn (an instance of PJ and friends switching book bits that works), and, partially, Flotsam and Jetsom, but without the Three Hunters meeting Merry and Pippin it's incomplete in book impact.

P.S. PJ and PB must have gotten enormous not so good feedback on Faramir (apparently BB didn't write) because they start off a section of disc 3 with a coherent, if unconvincing, presentation of their tampering with Faramir "From Book to Script". It essentially seems to come down to their view that they knew better then JRRT.
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However, Dunedain is "spot on" with his comment:
"I really enjoyed the Extended Edition of the Two Towers, because it includes things that would have made the theatrical version much better than it was. I don't think this movie would have caught as much flack and complaints if some of these scenes were included."
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I think the movie Faramir would have been evaluated more like Arwen in FOTR if the DVD Faramir bits had been included.

[zinnite]

Oh yeah, and I really liked Eowyn's little funeral dirge. It seemed kind of forced, but it was still nice.

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by zinnite
Oh yeah, and I really liked Eowyn's little funeral dirge. It seemed kind of forced, but it was still nice.

hehe, no idea why but I thought she kinda sounded like Bjork :D

[Dúnedain]

I think I found a mistake on one of the maps. In the scene when Faramir is discussing the movements of Saruon's Army and Saruman's Army (chapter 40 on the DVD), they are looking at a map. You can see it in two spots, the very beginning of the scene when they put the map on the table and when the camera pans from Rohan to Gondor, you also see on the map, Emyn Muil, The Dead Marshes and "Dagorland". It should say Dagorlad and not DagorlaNd...

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Dúnedain
You really get to see how much the brothers really loved one another and you also get to see how much they hate thier father, Denethor, as he is in the scene as well. What the heck ... hate their father? :eek: :mad: Not sure if I'm gonna like that. :rolleyes:

But I'm looking forward to see the brotherly love. :)

[Millane]

ohhhh probably the same as Dunedain, except i was just a bit iffy about that "stew" that eowyn made, surely Aragorn would have been used to worse food than that in his travels. on a side note when aragorn kicks the uruk helmet, he breaks two of his toes, i thought that was cool...
i liked the extra Uruk scenes, especially "i dont take orders from orc- maggots" and the draught.
i loved Eowyn singing at Theodred's funeral great scene...
hmmm poor Gimli, his honor has been destroyed in The Two Towers, i always imagined him as being a bit more stubborn, i know he was not comfortable in Fangorn but he didnt have to seem like such a wimp...
and that wanker Legolas trying to steal Gimli's dead Uruk:mad:

[zinnite]

Originally posted by Dúnedain
hehe, no idea why but I thought she kinda sounded like Bjork :D
I think that's why I liked it :)

[Bacchus]

Honestly, I'd have to say my favorite scene was the easter egg on disc 1 showing Gollum's speech at the MTV movie awards. [Go to select scenes, select the last chapter on disc one, press the down arrow and a ring appears. The egg is here]

What I want to know is how did Gollum channel jerseydevil? ("Peter Jackson, you f****** hack! Who do you think you are! How dare you?!")

At any rate, absolutely hilarious.

From the film itself, I really liked "One of the Dunedain", although I think that they got the age wrong. Aragorn's 88th birthday was March 1. I don't recall the exact date of Helm's Deep, but the Pellennor was March 15. I don't think that the discussion is plausibly more than two weeks before the Pellennor.

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by Artanis
What the heck ... hate their father? :eek: :mad: Not sure if I'm gonna like that. :rolleyes:

But I'm looking forward to see the brotherly love. :)

Well maybe I used hate too strongly, really more of a resentment, like you see Faramir resenting Denethor for the way he treats him and you see Boromir resenting Denethor for the way he treats his brother...

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by Bacchus
Honestly, I'd have to say my favorite scene was the easter egg on disc 1 showing Gollum's speech at the MTV movie awards. [Go to select scenes, select the last chapter on disc one, press the down arrow and a ring appears. The egg is here]

What I want to know is how did Gollum channel jerseydevil? ("Peter Jackson, you f****** hack! Who do you think you are! How dare you?!")

At any rate, absolutely hilarious.

From the film itself, I really liked "One of the Dunedain", although I think that they got the age wrong. Aragorn's 88th birthday was March 1. I don't recall the exact date of Helm's Deep, but the Pellennor was March 15. I don't think that the discussion is plausibly more than two weeks before the Pellennor.

Well that discussion took place before Helm's Deep, so if the Pellennor was on March 15th and they are only on their way to Helm's Deep then it is more than plausible that it is not March 1st yet...

[Bacchus]

I agree that it's possible, but then we have the issue of Aragorn claiming to be 87 at best a day or two before his birthday. I didn't know he was so sensitive about his age :D

We do have a bit of a timeline to work from. Gandalf appears at dawn of the fifth day. Therefore, the discussion takes place at most five days before the battle ends, and more likely three on the high end.

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Dúnedain
Well maybe I used hate too strongly, really more of a resentment, like you see Faramir resenting Denethor for the way he treats him and you see Boromir resenting Denethor for the way he treats his brother... Sounds much better, thank you. :)

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by Bacchus
I agree that it's possible, but then we have the issue of Aragorn claiming to be 87 at best a day or two before his birthday. I didn't know he was so sensitive about his age :D


Even so, that would still make him 87 :p

[Black Breathalizer]

Hopefully the extended version of TTT should silence some of the naysayers around here. The EE explains the appearance of Brego, the motivations of Faramir, and has some great Eowyn and Gandalf moments too. Really good stuff.

[BeardofPants]

Well, I liked the one viewing of the theatrical TT that I saw, and I liked this one more. I don't know why, but even with all the deviations, it feels like a better, more compelling movie. Gives me a lot of hope for ROTK. Anyway, easily, my favourite scene is the entwife song - with that beautiful landscape in conjunction with the sadness of the song... come back to me... come back to me... come back to me... and say that my land is best. And, the look on Merry's face is priceless with the first song, Oh rowan fair! :D

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Well, I liked the one viewing of the theatrical TT that I saw, and I liked this one more. I don't know why, but even with all the deviations, it feels like a better, more compelling movie. Gives me a lot of hope for ROTK. Anyway, easily, my favourite scene is the entwife song - with that beautiful landscape in conjunction with the sadness of the song... come back to me... come back to me... come back to me... and say that my land is best. And, the look on Merry's face is priceless with the first song, Oh rowan fair! :D

lol, yeah i liked how merry and pip kept snoozing off :D

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Dúnedain
Well that discussion took place before Helm's Deep, so if the Pellennor was on March 15th and they are only on their way to Helm's Deep then it is more than plausible that it is not March 1st yet...

Appendix SAYS... (even from memory, I had noted this once)

March 1 was when Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli met Gandalf the White in Fanghorn Forest... so he was 88 at Helm's Deep. Maybe with everything going on, it just slipped Aragorn's mind that he had turned 88! Or maybe he thought his chances with Eowyn were better if he claimed he was "only" 87... ;)

(ed: haven't seen it yet - and trying not to read too much here - so don't know if I have the context wrong here - and don't want to find out yet... until I get to watch it! :D )

[Gamigar]

My favorite is when Merry and Pippin are smoking and laughing really loud, then Treabeard stoops over to listen like an oblivious parent.

[Silpion]

originally posted by Dúnedain
The third scene is "Sons of the Steward". It takes place after Gondor reclaims Osgiliath and Boromir and Faramir are celebrating their victory. You really get to see how much the brothers really loved one another and you also get to see how much they hate thier father, Denethor, as he is in the scene as well. It is mainly a flashback scene, because after they reclaimed Osgiliath Boromir goes off to Rivendell for the Council of Elrond...

I liked seeing the interaction between the two brothers. They know what their father thinks of each of them, but they don't let Denethor's opinions drive a wedge between their love for one another.

[Arathorn]

The scene I most remember on the Extended Edition is the one where the huorns of Fangorn forest said to each other

We will not abandon the shirelings Merry and Pippin ...hurrrarrrumm... to torment and death. Not while we have strength and branches left...burrrraaarrrrrummm. Leave all twigs that can be spared behind...hurrrrarrrum. We travel light and with less leaves...hurrrrarrrummm. Let's hunt some Orclings.

...and did just that. :D

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by Arathorn
The scene I most remember on the Extended Edition is the one where the huorns of Fangorn forest said to each other

We will not abandon the shirelings Merry and Pippin ...hurrrarrrumm... to torment and death. Not while we have strength and branches left...burrrraaarrrrrummm. Leave all twigs that can be spared behind...hurrrrarrrum. We travel light and with less leaves...hurrrrarrrummm. Let's hunt some Orclings.

...and did just that. :D


Hmmm, I didn't even pick up on that. What scene # is that?

[Black Breathalizer]

My favorite new scenes include:

The Heir of Numenor. I particulary liked the moment when Gandalf learned that Sam was with Frodo.

The Clittering Caves. The moment when Eowyn told Aragorn that the "they" loved him was very touching.

Dwarf Women. I also like the additional information that King Theoden shared with Aragorn about Eowyn's past.

The Gondor stuff with Faramir and Boromir was great and I particularly liked Sam's "you showed your quality" line to Faramir at the end of the movie.

All in all, some great new stuff.

[Cirdan]

What kind of cave???:o

I liked most of the additions, especially more Fangorn, Gandalf's talk with Aragorn, more Eomer. The soup bit was kind of pointless but amusing. I'm not sure more Gollum is a good thing but spread over the hours, well... I finally laughed at one of the humor inserts in the Final Tally scene.

Disc three is pretty funny. First you see a doc about JRRT, he's great he's inovative, successful because of unconventional style, blah, blah, blah.. Then the book to screen bit is this long apologia about how they needed to avoid unconventional techniques, not enough action, Faramir couldn't be like he was written, etc.... Particularly amusing in these bits were:

Boyens saying they gave Gandalf's like about "a hutch to trammel..." to wormtongue, except it was Faramir's line.

The Council of Elorond was "too boring" as written except most of the prologue to FotR is from there.

In the JRRT doc C.S. lewis is described as an atheist.:confused:

Anyway, it seems like they were risk averse, which is understandable when one is spending $300 million of someone else's money.

Poor Bombadil lost his lines to Treebeard.

I still have a ways to go on the bonus discs. I need to check out the easter egg, too.

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Cirdan
What kind of cave???:o

The pink and squishy kind? :o :p

Cirdan:
In the JRRT doc C.S. lewis is described as an atheist.:confused:

Wasn't he... at first? And then he converted?

[cassiopeia]

Originally posted by Cirdan

Boyens saying they gave Gandalf's like about "a hutch to trammel..." to wormtongue, except it was Faramir's line.

In the ROTK, in the Houses of Healing, Gandalf says it.

In the JRRT doc C.S. lewis is described as an atheist.:confused:

I think BoP's right. CSL was an athiest then was converted.

[Arathorn]

Originally posted by Dúnedain
Hmmm, I didn't even pick up on that. What scene # is that?

Chapter 31 on disc 2; when the Huorns came a marchin' in. Heheh, next time, I'll try to tell you the punchline ahead of time. :o :p

[Black Breathalizer]

Originally posted by Cirdan
What kind of cave???Oops. :o :o :o

[Sminty_Smeagol]

I really liked the scene with boromir & faramir and their father. It really kind of expands on Faramir and Boromir's relationship and situation, and provides a decent motivation for Faramir's change of character. It's one of the only?/few? instances of a troubled character because of difficult family situations/conflict.... in LOTR.

However, is there anything about ROTK on the TT:EE? I thought there was a preview of ROTK on the theatrical version... I just got the tt:ee today and I like it a lot. it kind of adds some personality to the film. But is everything from the theatrical version also on the extended one? A preview for ROTK? a trailer? Anything?

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by Arathorn
Chapter 31 on disc 2; when the Huorns came a marchin' in. Heheh, next time, I'll try to tell you the punchline ahead of time. :o :p

hmmm, I just watched that scene and it wasn't there :confused:

[Lizra]

I don't know....but maybe with the subtitiles on. :confused:

[Goldberry1]

i just watched it today... overall i would say i liked it slightly more than the theatrical release. "the sons of the steward" scene i thought was the best improvement. i appreciated seeing "flotsam and jetsam" and the ent draught scenes. and - who said it before? - poor gimli... maybe he'll be awarded some dignity in ROTK.

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by Lizra
I don't know....but maybe with the subtitiles on. :confused:

Tried that :D

[Khamûl]

I believe that Arathorn is taking a poke at Aragorn's little speech at the end of FotR by translating it into Entish. :p

[Dúnedain]

OMG I could keeeeeel him! lol I hate you Arathorn!! I'm glad you died after being Chieftain for only 2 years!!! :p

[BeardofPants]

Heehee, *points and laughs @ Dunny* :p (don't feel too bad, that bad ol' shoe's gotten all at some time or other.:D)

[Arathorn]

And all along I thought you guys were just trying to be mean....

Not laughing at my jokes and pretending not to get it. Hmp....


:D :p

But seriously (yes, i'm being serious now), I really liked that scene when the trees went to Helm's Deep. It sort of makes the presence of the elves there more bearable. After all, the trees really did play a major part in that chapter of the book.

It's JRRT's poke on MacBeth. heheh.

[Keith K]

I just viewed the EE last night and I agree with the comments in Dunedain's original post in this thread. Overall, the new scenes give more depth to the characters. I also liked the funeral song. I still don't like how Theoden has been portrayed though. (but that is for another thread).

[Turambar1982]

first posted by cirdan:
In the JRRT doc C.S. lewis is described as an atheist.:confused:


Actually what they say is that Lewis was an atheist at the time of the inklings. and that's true. he became a so convinced christian not until a long time later.
see also humphrey carpenter.

but what i wanted to ask is if there is a trailer for for rotk somewhere on the discs. there was a trailer for ttt on the fotr e.e. so could somebody tell me if there's one on the ttt ee.

and another question where is the gollum/deagol scene that you see in the trailer for ttt. at least i could swear there was one. or does that scene only exist in my mind.:confused:

[azalea]

Apparently there isn't a RotK trailer on the disc.:(
And it is mentioned in the commentary that those Smeagol/ Deagol scenes have been moved to RotK (let's just hope they'll still be there, after the recent decision to scrap the Saruman scenes!)

[Turambar1982]

Originally posted by azalea
And it is mentioned in the commentary that those Smeagol/ Deagol scenes have been moved to RotK (let's just hope they'll still be there, after the recent decision to scrap the Saruman scenes!)

thanx.
saruman will be on the rotk ee though.

[Black Breathalizer]

Originally posted by azalea
And it is mentioned in the commentary that those Smeagol/ Deagol scenes have been moved to RotK (let's just hope they'll still be there, after the recent decision to scrap the Saruman scenes!) According to Newsweek, the Smeagol/Deagol scene will open ROTK.

[Finrod Felagund]

Little Things I Appreciated in TTT: EE

1. Well, definitely the whole Grima/Saruman talking about the ring of Barahir...I love that ring!

2. Gandalfs little "Did he?...Good" and smirk when he was told Sam went with Frodo.

3. Pippin looking over his shoulder when he found the apple (great FotR reference)

4. The Huorns...'nuff said

5. The fact that they finally mentioned the north kingdom!!!!

6. They showed the Battle remnents at the Fords of Isen...theough still not explained

7. Boromir & Faramir's scene, they acted well opposite eachother...and Sean Bean is great!

8. Eowyn & Aragorn's discussion of his past escapades and age

9. Eowyn can't cook!

[Keith K]

Originally posted by Finrod Felagund
Little Things I Appreciated in TTT: EE

9. Eowyn can't cook!
I found that to be quite amusing myself.

[ethuiliel]

Well, I liked many of the scenes.

Elven Rope
The White Rider (Legolas and Gimli were great in that scene)
Ent Draft (I liked the references to two book things -- Ent Draft, and Old Man Willow/Tom Bombadill. Cleverly done!!)
One of the Dunedain (My sister and I were laughing the whole scene, since we already knew how old he was, and why)
Sons of the Steward (Yay, more Faramir. Well done. Even my sister, who doesn't like him as much as I do felt sorry for him after how Denethor treats him.)
The Final Tally (Great scene, but why was it 42-43, instead of 41-42?)
Farewell to Faramir (Several quotes from the book, and well used. "You showed your quality sir. The very highest.")


and more, but these were the ones I liked best.

[sirigorn]

Elven Rope
The White Rider (Legolas and Gimli were great in that scene)
Ent Draft (I liked the references to two book things -- Ent Draft, and Old Man Willow/Tom Bombadill. Cleverly done!!)
One of the Dunedain (My sister and I were laughing the whole scene, since we already knew how old he was, and why)
Sons of the Steward (Yay, more Faramir. Well done. Even my sister, who doesn't like him as much as I do felt sorry for him after how Denethor treats him.)
The Final Tally (Great scene, but why was it 42-43, instead of 41-42?)
Farewell to Faramir (Several quotes from the book, and well used. "You showed your quality sir. The very highest.")

[sirigorn]

whoops, i accidently posted. anyhoo, as i was saying,

Yay!! ethy included me!!

My fave scenes were Final Tally (as you could probably tel, considering i've got the whole scene written out in my sig...) and One of the Dunedain

[sirigorn]

Oh yeah I forgot one, I forget what it's called.. The one right after Final Tally, with Merry and Pippin
(-doesn't look too happy, does he? -Not to happy at all, Merry. -Still, I suppose the view is quite nice. -Oh yes it's a quality establishment. I hear the staff are VERY good.)

[crickhollow]

yeah, the final tally was great

And I think that the added material with Faramir and Boromir is essential for expanding on the Movie-Faramir's character. I liked him better after that...it established his motivation for taking the hobbits to Osgiliath.

[Lady_Boromir]

Boromir! Boromir! Boromir cutscenes!! i love that back story shows what kind of relationship Faramir, Boromir, and Denthor had for eachother. in ROTK i felt so sorry for Faramir...but that's a Return of the King discussion so i wont go into that. well maybe not..cos it does show Denthors resentment to Faramir..but anyway it was a great cutscene..so sad that it didn't make the theatrical version.:(

[Critter]

I was very pleased to see the addition of the Hurons in the EE edition, however, as far as plot development I think The Sons of the Stewart was the best.

[The Gaffer]

Just seen it, at last. Well worth the wait. Eowyn's song was great, and so were the huorns and the added scenes in Osgiliath.

While I agree that the added material makes more sense of Faramir's taking Frodo to Osgiliath, it still doesn't explain why he then let him go. All the more so given that Frodo was on the point of handing the ring over (or, at best, putting it on right in front of a Nazgul). The Ents' decision not to attack Isengard also doesn't make sense, not to mention how they all managed to teleport there when Treebeard sees the wreckage.

Having more time to take it all in makes me appreciate the depth of detail of the production. I think you can better understand what it must look like to people who haven't read the book; I now think I see why they often prefer TTT to FOTR.

EDIT: I see that PJ included his kids, again, but is that the man himself hurling a stone from the parapet at Helm's Deep?