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b.banner
10-06-2003, 12:02 PM
i read that besides gandalf saruman radgast there were two more who are they my sister said they went away and were never seen agian does anybody know about them

Arien the Maia
10-06-2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by b.banner
i read that besides gandalf saruman radgast there were two more who are they my sister said they went away and were never seen agian does anybody know about them

yes they are called the Blue Wizards and they went to the east of middle earth...Tolkien doesn't write anything about them and I forget their names but they start with a P and an A

hectorberlioz
10-06-2003, 03:29 PM
They(as far as i've heard) are called the Istari. but i think istari is the name for all the wizards.

hectorberlioz
10-06-2003, 03:34 PM
Found 'em...the Ith-(something or other) Luin:"Alatar" and "Pallando". They went into the east and it is rumored that they may have succumbed to the 'dark side'. :D (quite like saruman)

Artanis
10-06-2003, 03:41 PM
Yes, istari is the name of all the wizards. 'Wizard' is said to be a translation of the Quenya word 'istar'.

The blue wizards were Pallando and Alatar. They passed into the East and never returned.
Edit: Oh hi hectorberlioz, you beat me there. :D

Falagar
10-06-2003, 05:29 PM
We do have a later text (HoME XII: The Peoples of Middle-Earth) where the two last wizards are named Morinehtar ("darkness-slayer") and Rómestámo ("east-helper"), if I remember correctly.
There they worked against Sauron in the east, and it is said that if it hadn't been for them Sauron's forces would have been far greater in the Second and Third Age than it was.
Originally posted by hectorberlioz
Found 'em...the Ith-(something or other) Luin:"Alatar" and "Pallando". They went into the east and it is rumored that they may have succumbed to the 'dark side'. :D (quite like saruman)
The name for the blue wizards in UT is "Ithryn luin" (Sindarin).

Sister Golden Hair
10-07-2003, 01:51 AM
There are several threads on this topic. Please do a search. Closing.:)