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anamerial
10-02-2003, 03:40 AM
i heard a rumour that Peter Jackson was giong to kill off Legolas in the ROTK. he killed Haldir in ttt so what is giong to stop him from killing off Legolas as well? i heard its a rumor but if it's something more then that i don't want to be around when he dies. i will just have to keep on using my wishful thinking technique so far it has worked.!
Evenstar1400
10-02-2003, 07:11 AM
WHAT!!!!????????????
IF PJ KILLS OF LEGOLAS IM GONNA ATTACK HIM!!!!
WHOSE WITH ME?????!!!!!
Celebréiel
10-02-2003, 09:29 AM
This is one im sure isnt true...I dont have much faith in PJ for Rotk, but im pretty sure he doesnt have an insane death wish. I do think he'll find some semi-important character to kill though..:rolleyes:
Gamigar
10-02-2003, 11:06 AM
Welcome to the entmoot!I don't think that P.J. would do that.
Rosie Gamgee
10-02-2003, 01:42 PM
I'M WITH YA!!!! I don't care much for Orlando Bloom dressed up in a blonde wig and blue contacts, but if PJ goes that far..... WATCH OUT, DUDE!
Black Breathalizer
10-02-2003, 03:22 PM
I'm betting that evil PJ is gonna deep-six...Frodo Baggins!!! Wouldn't it be just like Jackson to kill off another key character like he did Boromir and Haldir?!?!?! So don't be too surprised if Frodo dies during ROTK!
Artanis
10-02-2003, 03:34 PM
The first person I'm gonna kill is the one that started this rumour :rolleyes:
Elfhelm
10-02-2003, 03:46 PM
Yes, the last thing we see in the trailer is Sam screaming Nooooooooooo!!!!!! because Frodo fell into the Crack of Doom. Gollum pushed him, of course, right after Sauron took the Ring. I think Legalos will die because an oliphant spears him as he tries his bleeping Tarzan stunt.
anamerial
10-02-2003, 05:06 PM
he would kill him because the part in the book where he goes with gimli sailing never to return would take longer to show and thus would make the movie longer. *sigh* i just think that this is a rumor though i am not sure whether or not it will happen but i pray that it won't that would just end my world as i know it.
also thanks for the friendly welcomes. they are appreciated.
well namarieh
Elfhelm
10-02-2003, 05:25 PM
anamerial, welcome!
When we post spoilers (any information that might not be known by people who don't want to know it until they see it in the theatre), we click the spoiler button and it looks like the note below. Simply select the note by clicking and dragging your cursor over it in order to read the spoiler.
They are going to show the ship leaving the Grey Havens as one of the final scenes. People have witnessed the filming and reported it at another site.
Dúnedain
10-02-2003, 05:38 PM
This thread sucks, that is all :D
Evenstar1400
10-02-2003, 06:27 PM
what is this world coming to?
WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD KILL OFF LEGOLAS (ORLANO BLOOM)????!!!!!!!!
STOP THE INSANITY!!!
Elf Girl
10-02-2003, 06:44 PM
Of course PJ won't kill Legolas, the fangirls are a key percentage of the audience, so he has to please them. Don't worry.
gimli7410
10-02-2003, 07:02 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA i hope he does. that would really lower some people down showing that at least dwarves can live through a movie:p
Sister Golden Hair
10-02-2003, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by gimli7410
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA i hope he does. that would really lower some people down showing that at least dwarves can live through a movie:p Maybe PJ will kill Gimli.:D
anamerial
10-02-2003, 07:33 PM
i am sorry if i made any one mad at me for making this thread but i just had to get the word out and no i do not want any of the characters to die because i like them all. please forgive me.
namarieh :o
Sister Golden Hair
10-02-2003, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by anamerial
i am sorry if i made any one mad at me for making this thread but i just had to get the word out and no i do not want any of the characters to die because i like them all. please forgive me.
namarieh :o Oh, I wouldn't be too upset at all the Entmoot dorks.:D They are a fun loving bunch. You're new, and you'll get use to them. You didn't spoil anything. That's the great part about the books. We know Legolas doesn't really die. So whatever happens in the movie is no biggy anyway.
b.banner
10-02-2003, 07:50 PM
the whole orlando bloom lovy thing is madness i hate the actor love the character anyways i heard he was getting married
hectorberlioz
10-03-2003, 12:55 AM
if legolas dies. i will laugh.(not because i think it would be funny though). if legolas dies, millions of teenage orlie lovers will commit suicide.
hectorberlioz
10-03-2003, 01:49 AM
I'm scared about RotK. i was really frustratedwith the preview. i saw some more frodo looking to the side slowly....elrond giving aragorn some sword(:confused: )...more red faced gandalf with white hair that has extreme contrast with his face...and finnally sam yelling "nooooooooo!" as if frodo fell in. need some support here.
Sheeana
10-03-2003, 02:29 AM
The sword is Anduril reforged.
cassiopeia
10-03-2003, 02:38 AM
Oh puh-leeze. Like PJ is going to kill off Legolas. :rolleyes: Maybe a Nazgul will chop off a bit of his pretty blonde hair. :)
I'm looking forward to the ROTK, but from the trailer it looks as if PJ's butchered the books...again. :mad:
Elvedans
10-03-2003, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
I'm betting that evil PJ is gonna deep-six...Frodo Baggins!!! Wouldn't it be just like Jackson to kill off another key character like he did Boromir and Haldir?!?!?! So don't be too surprised if Frodo dies during ROTK!
Kill Frodo? No way, he wouldn't live to reach fifty! But killing Boromir - now that was imperative. If he hadn't killed off Boromir nobody would have bothered going to see the secong film.
Elvengirl
10-03-2003, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by b.banner
the whole orlando bloom lovy thing is madness i hate the actor love the character anyways i heard he was getting married
Orlando's getting married?
gimli7410
10-03-2003, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Maybe PJ will kill Gimli.:D
he wouldnt:eek: would he...nah i dont...well i dont know....im so confused:( :p :D
hectorberlioz
10-03-2003, 12:12 PM
Boromir was supposed to die.
he died in the book.
Dúnedain
10-03-2003, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by cassiopeia
I'm looking forward to the ROTK, but from the trailer it looks as if PJ's butchered the books...again. :mad:
Uhhhh how? :confused:
Varda Oiolosseo
10-03-2003, 12:24 PM
the whole orlando bloom lovy thing is madness i hate the actor love the character anyways i heard he was getting married
:eek: What!
Of course PJ won't kill Legolas, the fangirls are a key percentage of the audience, so he has to please them. Don't worry.
phew! I hope you are right!
If PJ kills off Legolas!!!!!!!!!!! I will cry and cry and cry.... ( u can see where i'm going) :( *prays PJ won't kill Legolas*
He can't change it anymore!!!!!!
Finrod Felagund
10-03-2003, 12:29 PM
The whole Frodo falling in thing will probably be a cheesy "his dissapears and reappears moments later on the back of an eagle" moments.
hectorberlioz
10-03-2003, 01:04 PM
:p :p :p oh my goodness that would be funny!:p :p :p
Elfhelm
10-03-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Sheeana
The sword is Anduril reforged.
Uhh.. darn. 'scuse the brainfart. :rolleyes:
Elvengirl
10-03-2003, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Finrod Felagund
The whole Frodo falling in thing will probably be a cheesy "his dissapears and reappears moments later on the back of an eagle" moments.
Frodo falls in? :eek: I'll have to see the trailer again.
Shadowfax
10-03-2003, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Elvengirl
Frodo falls in? :eek: I'll have to see the trailer again. It doesn't show him falling in, it just shows Sam screaming, "Noooo!" at Mount Doom. I think he yells "no!" because Frodo claims the Ring for himself.
cassiopeia
10-03-2003, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Dúnedain
Uhhhh how? :confused:
Narsil. Arwen. Paths of the Dead (No Dunedain). Scouring of the Shire. That's some of it. :rolleyes:
Sheeana
10-04-2003, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by Elfhelm
Uhh.. darn. 'scuse the brainfart. :rolleyes:
NP. Happens to the best of us. ;)
Eärloth
10-04-2003, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
I'm betting that evil PJ is gonna deep-six...Frodo Baggins!!! Wouldn't it be just like Jackson to kill off another key character like he did Boromir and Haldir?!?!?! So don't be too surprised if Frodo dies during ROTK!
You idiot, Boromir died in the books, there was no other choice but to kill him in the movie. And I think the killing of Haldir is to bring everybody home on the fact that: this is a war - people are going to die, and those people are not necessarily going to be the ones nobody cares about.
Eärloth
10-04-2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by Shadowfax
It doesn't show him falling in, it just shows Sam screaming, "Noooo!" at Mount Doom. I think he yells "no!" because Frodo claims the Ring for himself.
Or because Gollum attacks him
Eärloth
10-04-2003, 10:00 AM
Of course PJ won't kill Legolas, the fangirls are a key percentage of the audience, so he has to please them. Don't worry.
But then there are the percentage of the audience that do not like Legolas; and it was remarked by the producers that they would stay true to the books because trying to please a movie audience is a trap. So either way Legolas is staying alive, I guess (I guess duh, too).
Elf Girl
10-04-2003, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by Eärloth
You idiot, Boromir died in the books, there was no other choice but to kill him in the movie. And I think the killing of Haldir is to bring everybody home on the fact that: this is a war - people are going to die, and those people are not necessarily going to be the ones nobody cares about.
Um, BB was being sarcastic, making fun of the way we dislike the killing of Haldir. He agrees with you on every point, and he knows Boromir died in the books and that there's no chance of killing Frodo.
Rosie Gamgee
10-04-2003, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by cassiopeia
Narsil. Arwen. Paths of the Dead (No Dunedain). Scouring of the Shire. That's some of it. :rolleyes:
Actually I think there will be Dunedain there, I saw a pic of one at... Council of Elrond, I think it was. Or maybe it was Viggo's stunt double:p.
Elenna Alaniel
10-04-2003, 04:20 PM
There's no way he's going to kill him becouse he can't just kill one of the main chatacters,that would be to much.Fans all over the world would gona mad,not to mantion all the fangirls.And he probably wouldn't be alive anymore 'couse Christopher Lee would kill him first :D
Black Breathalizer
10-04-2003, 07:51 PM
You're probably right, Elenna Alaniel. I heard Peter Jackson might be waivering on his decision to kill off Legolas so he could make a blockbuster sequel staring Bloom and JRD. It will likely be one of those stupid Hollywood buddy movies. I understand that Gimli will only be used for comic relief. :rolleyes:
anamerial
10-04-2003, 08:26 PM
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Eärloth
10-05-2003, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by Elf Girl
Um, BB was being sarcastic, making fun of the way we dislike the killing of Haldir. He agrees with you on every point, and he knows Boromir died in the books and that there's no chance of killing Frodo.
Lol, sorry bout that, I can never really tell on computers. And also am Sagittarian, moderately hot-headed.
Eärloth
10-05-2003, 12:34 AM
And I heard they were going to cut out the scouring of the Shire, because supposedly RotK is 4 hours long without it. And if you watch the giftgiving in Lothlórien [in the Extended Edition] Sam doesn't get any dirt or a mallorn seed - instead he gets Elven rope made of Hithlain.
Elf Girl
10-05-2003, 10:14 AM
Yes, the cutting of the Scouring is pretty much common knowledge now. *mopes about*
And if you're going to post twice in a row, could you do us a favor and combine them in one post? You can edit them after you post them, you know. :)
paulbaggins
10-06-2003, 09:51 PM
Now PJ wouldn't stray that far from the text surely. You can't kill
off a key charecter THAT easily.:)
Agalayth
10-06-2003, 09:59 PM
I think that PJ will kill off Frodo because in The Two Towers, Galadriel said something that wasn't said in the book that she wasn't in: "The quest will claim his life. You know this." So I think that was a clue that PJ is going to ruin the movie and thus creating a war between the Tolkienists and New Line Cinemas.
Elf Girl
10-07-2003, 06:39 AM
*laughs* He can't. It would be one depressing movie if it didn't have a happy ending.
smaug_the_magnificent
10-07-2003, 07:38 AM
Apologies if you're being sarcastic Elf Girl, I mean let's face it, the tone of one's writing can be rather difficult to tell..
Anyway, I wouldn't go so far as to say film 3 will be "depressing" but I'm fairly confident it'll have a sad ending, as we know it is in the book.. Those who haven't shed a tear upon finishing the Lord of the Rings' book must be few & far between!
We know the Grey Havens is in the film and we know it's a highly emotional scene, and coupled with the journey we've all undertaken the past few years or so with the movie trilogy, there will be a sense of melancholy (that will hit most poignantly) at this moment, when we see the ship (& all our favourite characters) fading away into the West..
Another pssibility is combining Legalos & Gimli's departure with that of the first departure of Gandalf, Frodo, Bilbo et al.. Gimli's awe of the Glittering Caves & Legalos' like minded affinity with Fangorn wasn't explored in PJ's production so there's not necessarily a need for them to "hang around" in ME for a few more years as it is in the books.. This will also provide a neat little closure for two prominent characters & add to the cinematic effect at the Grey Havens ... (of course this is just pure speculation)
In terms of Galadriel's epiphany that "the quest will claim his (Frodo's) life", yes, it does cloud the water a little, most acutely for those who are exclusive movie fans.. Those who have read the books should understand though that Frodo taking the ship to Valinor is essentially the "Death" of Frodo, the corporeal cessation, the departure of the body of Frodo from the earth, from the mortal realm.. In essence the quest does claim his life, he cannot continue to abode in ME, principally because of the wounds he's sustained from the quest - so that prophecy is correct, however there might be some confusion with moviegoers who find it difficult to make a connection between Frodo sailing off on a ship, and his actual death.. This is something the writers will have to extrapolate succinctly (in, I'd imagine, a fairly short space of time)
Valandil
10-07-2003, 12:40 PM
Perhaps Galadriel's statement will make movie-goers who haven't read the books think that Shelob actually kills Frodo (in addition to the comments just made about his sailing west). It's something we tend to think on our first read of the book - but otherwise, those in a theater may not think he's dead (esp having already seen Gandalf return).
???
Black Breathalizer
10-07-2003, 02:11 PM
Speaking of prophesies, I truly hope a different Middle Earth prophesy comes true in ROTK:
Not by the hand of man shall the Witch-King fall.
:)
Gwaimir Windgem
10-07-2003, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Eärloth
You idiot, Boromir died in the books, there was no other choice but to kill him in the movie. And I think the killing of Haldir is to bring everybody home on the fact that: this is a war - people are going to die, and those people are not necessarily going to be the ones nobody cares about.
But then again, no body cares about Haldir. :p Except as a freak sideshow, I mean. ;)
Agalayth:
smaug is quite right. The quest did claim Frodo's life in a very real way. The end is a sacrifice; Frodo says to Samwise "Sometimes someone must give up something they love so that others can continue to love it."
BB:
I truly hope a different Middle Earth prophesy comes true in ROTK
Unless PJ decrees otherwise, you mean.
I understand that Gimli will only be used for comic relief.
:eek: Wow...it's like...EXACTLY like these movies!!! This has gotta be the Twilight Zone, dude! I'm freaked out!!!! :eek:
Artanis
10-07-2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
Speaking of prophesies, I truly hope a different Middle Earth prophesy comes true in ROTK:
Not by the hand of man shall the Witch-King fall.
:) Umm - Let's see: Arwen? :D
Dúnedain
10-07-2003, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Artanis
Umm - Let's see: Arwen? :D
Nope, in the trailer we see Dernhelm...
Elfhelm
10-07-2003, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by Dúnedain
Nope, in the trailer we see Dernhelm...
There is the shot of the back of her head when Eomer is wailing.
As for that prophesy, I always thought the hobbit (who is not a "man" slicing his tendons from behind and distracting him so the woman could kill him was the meaning of that.
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