Percy

[sun-star]

What's the general feeling about Percy after OoP? Is he a potential Death Eater, a spy for the good guys or just ambitious?

Personally I feel a bit sorry for him. I know that (in Ron's words) he's a bit of a git, but in a way he seems to have born into the wrong family. He would have been happier as Crouch's son.

[Elf Girl]

Well, my hypothesis before OotP was that Percy goes the same way as Barty Crouch Sr., but eventually sees the light and is redeemed. I doubt he'll ever go Death Eater, look at Crouch Sr. He never became one, but hated them so much that thouse around him did.

[Evenstar1400]

eowyngirl14 says hes a loser.

i dont really have an opinion of percy because there are possible theories that the whole "fight" between mr weasly and percy was made up, as a cover up. percy could be getting inside info for the Order of the Phoenix.

[cee2lee2]

I'd like to think it's just a cover and Percy is a spy for the Order, but if it were, he wouldn't have had to go so far as to write that nasty, "congratulations" letter to Ron telling him to distance himself from their family. He could have just continued to ignore him.

But I want Percy to turn out OK if only for Molly Weasley's peace of mind.

[IronParrot]

Percy's going to come around and do something completely contrary to the interests of the Ministry by the end of Book Seven. That's just what I figure. At some point he'll have to make that critical decision between family and state, and I think Rowling will make him do the right thing.

Actually, Percy's disrespect of his father for the latter being unsuccessful in OotP throws a major wrench into my long-held theory that Arthur Weasley will be the Minister of Magic by the end of the series. The reason is that if Arthur becomes Minister and that looks like the catalyst of Percy's return, it would make Percy no better a character than he was before.

[sun-star]

The problem is to develop (or re-develop) Percy's character while keeping him in the background and not distracting from the main story. I don't think Percy's conversion is going to be pivotal to the story, but I really hope it happens. It might have to be like this:

Book 6 or early Book 7 - Percy comes back to his family (or reveals he never left, depending on your current theory)
End of Book 7 - Arthur Weasley unexpectedly becomes Minister for Magic, in a way which makes clear Percy had nothing to do with it and didn't know it was going to happen.

I've very keen on the idea of Arthur becoming Minister for Magic. In fact I think he should become King Arthur, and the Golden Age of the Wizarding World can return :) ;)

But it also seems to me that Percy's problem is a father/son issue. As soon as Percy left home he started looking for a father figure, first in Crouch and now in Fudge (arguably he began before that with his schoolboy admiration for Dumbeldore, too). He might just have to be given up for lost, I fear...

Or that could just be me projecting my own current obssession with fictional father/son relationships :D

[Finrod Felagund]

Well, I was going to start this thread myself...oh well:p

[IronParrot]

sun-star, I love your take on the "searching for a father figure" point. That's one I hadn't heard.

I've very keen on the idea of Arthur becoming Minister for Magic. In fact I think he should become King Arthur, and the Golden Age of the Wizarding World can return
Actually, the best connection I've seen is the similarity between Arthur Weasley and Arthur Wellesley - the Duke of Wellington, who defeated Napoleon at Waterloo. Interesting, no?

[sun-star]

Originally posted by IronParrot
Actually, the best connection I've seen is the similarity between Arthur Weasley and Arthur Wellesley - the Duke of Wellington, who defeated Napoleon at Waterloo. Interesting, no?

I've never heard that idea before, but it's intriguing. I wonder if there are any parallels between Napoleon and Voldemort, or any of the other evil characters?

[eowyngirl14]

I really really really dislike Percy, and i wouldnt really mind if he died. (ofcoarse i would feel sorry for Molly) BUt if he wer a spy, do you really think he would send back his sweater and make MOlly cry? wouldnt he be brave enough to tell his own mother that he really isnt a jerk, and still on their side? and the way he treated HArry? I dont think anyone working to save HArry's life would be that much of a jerk towards him.
no, i think Percy is lost to the dark side (eeerr... well Voldemorts side) Well i highly doubt he will ever become a death eater but i do think that he is lost to the ministry forever! (amd forever is a pretty long time):p :p

[IronParrot]

I wonder if there are any parallels between Napoleon and Voldemort, or any of the other evil characters?
The major difference is that Napoleon was and is a hero. :)

[Elf Girl]

And Voldemort has lost a couple times already, before our Wellington had anything to do with it.

[IronParrot]

Well technically, Napoleon met his match at Trafalgar too, and that was pretty much the end of his ambitions to take Britain. As well, Waterloo was already Napoleon's second defeat after his first capture and exile.

[sun-star]

Originally posted by IronParrot
The major difference is that Napoleon was and is a hero. :)

Not on this side of the Atlantic :)

And I've just thought - the Duke of Wellington later became Prime Minister, didn't he? So there's the support for Arthur becoming Minister for Magic...

[Percy Weasley]

Ah, an entire thread about me...

I really really really dislike Percy, and i wouldnt really mind if he died.

Such kind sentiments, my lady, I do not quite know how to respond. Perhaps I will just ignore these comments for the sake of civility and move on?

For those of you who think that simply because I do not seem to completely trust Dumbledore that I must be heading towards becoming a Death Eater, I assure you that there are many members of the Ministry who appear to feel the same way I do, and are not, in fact, Death Eaters. It is not being "with you" or "against you" - there are many different roads to follow, and I most certainly do not support the evil of He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.

I do not see why it is necessary to drag my fight with my family out into the public, but as it is has already been done, I feel the need to defend myself. I love my family, and the fight was caused because I attempted to show them the error of their ways and help them before it was too late. They refused to listen. Is this my fault? I do not understand why I am recieving such negative publicity for simply trying to help my parents, and Ron, through the much publicized letter. I love my parents, I simply do not feel able to associate with them until they have realized the truth. I will accept their apology happily when they choose to give it.

As for my relationship with my father, I do not see that this is any of your business, but it is difficult to grow up ambitious in a family that does not seem to possess that trait. I wish to make something of myself, and father seems content to sit forever fooling with Muggle Artifacts while important things happen around him.

I do hope that the rift with my parents can be worked out, but you must realize that the blame does not sit squarely on my shoulders.

[eowyngirl14]

Percy Weasly, it is not your family who is at error, it is you. why dont you trust Dumbledore? Hasnt he been right in every decision he has made in the past? YES! and what has he ever done to you? he made you head boy didnt he? *cough*suck-up*cough*

when yousay you want to make something of yourself, you are really just saying that you are a power crazed mainiac. infaact, i think that you are jealous of the power Dumbledore poseses. you want it for yourself! :mad: you should be very veyr ashamed of yourself. you are also very conceded. you should be more like Ron. you really should.

[Eowyn, Lady of Rohan]

1 word in my mind that describes percy in OotP: Git.

[Elf Girl]

Goodness ELoR, be kind. He's watching! :eek:

[Fimbrethil]

I don't know...I think JKR has some point for him. I don't think he's all bad...just not mostly good (think about it a second). Just think about though JKR has tied up most if not all questions from books 1-4. It only makes sense that she would leave questions about people like Percy open. My opinion I don't hink he's a spy for anyone...just a missunderstood person.