Why Lord of the Rings is better than Star Wars

[Melonethriel]

Ok, you have to say why youthink Lord of the Rings is better than Star Wars.

LOTR is better because...

Obi-Wan Kenobi and Gandalf both had someone in their debt. But the Eagle-king is MUCH better than an overgrown toad, Jar-Jar-Binks.[FONT=century gothic]:D

[straight_face]

I just realized it's been a long time since I've been on this forum...

Eh, Jar Jar Binks was sort of the misfit of Star Wars... If you were to make a reference to which is better, I would prefer the reference be made to the older Star Wars.

I don't have a favorite at all. They're both great trilogies in many ways. Perhaps because it's hard to follow the Lord of the Rings movies over the books, sometimes I'd say Star Wars. Then again, with the new Star Wars installments, I'd say the Lord of the Rings...

I'm just going to conclude that I have no favorites.

[Varda Oiolosseo]

Lord of the Rings is better than Star Wars because in my opinion Star Wars is crap. :p :)

[Black Breathalizer]

The first Star Wars trilogy was great (particularly ANH and ESB). But there really is no comparison, especially once PJ releases The Return of the King

[Melko Belcha]

As far as the films go I like the original Star Wars Trilogy better then LotR.

As far as the books Star Wars is not even close to LotR.

[durin's bane]

While I enjoy watching Star Wars, I'd have to say LotR is better, even though I don't really like the movies, seeing as I'm a Tolkien-fanatic. :p Star Wars are great movies, but the newer installments really, well, suck. The original trilogy was a great collection of films, but because of the prequels' badness, LotR will always get my vote.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

The Lord of the Rings is better than Star Wars because it is classical literature...oh, you meant the movies! Well, the movies aren't better than Star Wars. :p

Side Note: Congrats, BB! You've reached your 500th post! :) You can now select a Custom Title. If you'd like to take advantage of this feature, just come up with a title, and PM it to one of the admins (Sister Golden Hair is probably your best bet).

[Black Breathalizer]

Thanks, Gwaimir.

How does The Enlightened One sound? :)

[mithrand1r]

Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
Thanks, Gwaimir.

How does The Enlightened One sound? :)

I think that would be a riot. Especially, since at times I wonder if you are watching the same films that I am. ;)

If you put your mind to it you, will come up with the appropriate title.

Maybe "The Black Knight" :rolleyes: to play off of your screen name. ;)

[Balrog_of_Morgoth]

Believe it or not, I had never seen ESB or ROTJ until last year. I watched all 3 of the enhance versions in one night.

I missed the whole Star Wars thing when it happened in the 70's. I just wasn't into it. I did see the first one, however.

As a story, I think Star Wars is pretty awesome. The whole aspect of a Jedi Knight is fascinating, and I don't think they went in depth on that subject enough.

Lord of the Rings is, of course, my all time favorite book, besides the Silmarillion, which is basically its prequel.

So far, I think the Lord of the Rings movies have created more of a realistic feeling parallel world. Maybe it is because of technological advances in film making, but that is not the question here.

Lastly, (and this is a point that no sane person can argue) is that the acting in LOTR is absolutely excellant while the acting in Star Wars is mediocre, especially in Attack of the Clones. This seals the deal for me.

[Rosie Gamgee]

LOTR is better that SW cuz-

-the acting is better
-the story is better
-the special effects are better
-the guys is LOTR are better looking (not to be all wishy-washy there)
-the hobbits are cuter than the Ewoks (a little wishy-washy there, though)
-Arwen doesn't turn out to be Aragorn's sister
-the Fellowship isn't stupid enough to fly their star-ship (well, if they had one) into the mouth of a giant crater-worm
-Yoda's lightsabering doesn't hold a candle to Gollum's fish-killing methods
-Gimli is much more comprehendable than Chewie
-Gandalf is smarter than Obi Wan and Qui Gon
-Frodo doesn't have a mother who says "There is no other way"- he gets to say it himself
-there's nothing in SW quite as disgusting as the Orcs
-Leia doesn't get to kill a witch-king
-Sauron doesn't cackle and say "Young Skywalker" all the time
-Saurman doesn't say things like "Apology accepted, Captain Lurtz"
-the clothes in LOTR are much better than anything in SW
-the Mos Eisley cantina band doesn't play any songs like 'Hey Ho To The Bottle I Go'
-Elrond's hairdos are better than Leia's
-there are no Balrogs in SW
-nobody says "Good shot, Red2!" a bazzilion times in LOTR
-no one exclaims "I haaaavvveee a baaaad feeling about this!" in LOTR
-Merry and Pippin bicker better than C3P0 and R2D2 (actually, this is debatable)

btw, I used to be a big Star Wars fan, so I'm allowed to pick on it :rolleyes:

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by mithrand1r
Maybe "The Black Knight" :rolleyes: to play off of your screen name. ;)

The Black Knights always triumph! Have at you!

I'm invincible! :D


Sorry...little Monty Python flashback...;)

[Black Breathalizer]

LOTR has Gollum while SW has Jar Jar Binks


'Nuff Said.

[Wayfarer]

IMHO, TTT was just AOTC in a SFC setting. :P They were both cheesy action movies with only the most superficial of plots. TPM was pretty cheesy at times, as well. However, neither of the jackson movies hold a candle to the original Star Wars trilogy, which was, after all, made back when filmakers held themselves to a standard and special effects were secondary to plot action and characterization.

[HOBBIT]

well, to be honest, Star Wars (at least OT most people will agree with me on) movies are better than the lotr movies...

Don't get me wrong, the Lotr movies are good - but they aren't classics (not yet anyway)....they aren't as good.

I think the prequels are just as enjoyable as the lotr movies in every way.

And as for comparing a great work of literature to a great work of a film is just silly - they are two separate great things!

Of course Star Wars is better than Lotr movies.

[Gamigar]

LotR is better because people dont jump from 300 feet and remain unscathed.

[hectorberlioz]

you cant compare lotr to the NEW star wars. but comparing lotr to the classics, i cant make that comparison. i do like to make re-create in my mind the star wars movies with lotr carachter and vice versa.

[durin's bane]

Oh, and another way LotR is better than Star Wars:

No freakin' Jake Lloyd. I swear, that kid cannot act.

[RohirrimGuy]

Ugh no.


LOTR is by far better than the new ones. The old ones are closer to LOTR but IMO LOTR is better.;)

[Rosie Gamgee]

Originally posted by RohirrimGuy
Ugh no.


LOTR is by far better than the new ones. The old ones are closer to LOTR but IMO LOTR is better.;)

Yeah! What he said.

[Jedi X]

This is something of the order of attempting to determine who is the better composer; Wagner or Verdi. However, since the proposition is on the table, I will venture to set forth an exegetical effort to examine the fundamental principles of the two works. Now, don't let my user name fool you as I am a huge fan of both works and, indeed, though they differ in style of form and overall depth of communicative relay one could almost consider them the same story yet, as it were, from a differing point of view.

With that said, I would surmise that the better of the two would surely have to be [This portion of the post has been deleted as the poster engages in an overly lengthy discourse replete with pseudo-intellectual presuppositions, faulty analogies, oversimplifications, ad-hoc reasonings and myriad other poorly constructed "proofs" to support his conclusion which is completely non-sequitar- ED.]

So, in the end, I think we could all agree, given the abundance of the adequately presented considerations [poorly thought-out tripe- ED.], that this is the only true answer to the idea of which of the two is the better work.

Comments? [Please do not encourage him- ED.]

[Evenstar1400]

yeah so umm.... star wars isnt as good as LOTR cause is prequels are just a joke.

Padme: (wearing tight black dress that shes practically falling out of) Anikin, we cant have a relationship!! (GASPGASP)

AnAkin: (pouty, im about to throw a temper tantrum face) But... we can keep it a secret!!! (PRETTYPLEASEWITHACHERRYONTOP)

[eowyngirl14]

I would have to disagree... Starwars is sooooo much cooler that lort... (well maybe a little atleast)

FOr one thing, StartWars has the sexy Luke Skywalker, while lotr has this midgit Frodo.

and SW has space travel, lotr has well boring earth travel

[Black Breathalizer]

Originally posted by eowyngirl14
I would have to disagree... Starwars is sooooo much cooler that lort... (well maybe a little atleast)

FOr one thing, StartWars has the sexy Luke Skywalker, while lotr has this midgit Frodo.

and SW has space travel, lotr has well boring earth travel How can anyone argue with this logic? eowyngirl has certainly convinced me!!! Hopefully, it's not too late for Peter Jackson to change his CGI for ROTK so the ringwraiths can attack Minas Tirith in cool-looking jet speeders.

[Sheeana]

God, you're annoying.

[Evenstar1400]

yes eowyngirl14.......... star wars IS much better than LORT. LORT doesnt even exist.... therefore star wars is better (but not by much) by the way.... what the hell is LORT?

luke skywalker IS NOT SEXY.
and boring earth travel is much better anyway.

and the people in star wars are really stupid. for instance, one of the storm troopers bangs his head on the door as he walks into the room. you dont see anyone doing that in lotr without doing it because its in the script.

lotr IS better cause hobbits and elves rock!!!

[IronParrot]

This is such a pointless debate on so many levels, the only reason I'm leaving the threadopen is because I'm a nice guy.

What happened to intelligent comparative analysis? Are we, as consumers, truly reduced to such a level today that we can't talk about two works of (cinematic) literature without saying, "Hamlet could beat up MacBeth any day"?

[Jedi X]

IronParrot, didn't you see my in-depth critical analysis of the two works above?

I'm surprised no one has commented on my superb use of neo-Homeric reductionism.

[Elfhelm]

Actually, I think the thane could probably nuke the dane ... hehehe

[b.banner]

tou cant really compare because starwars is totally differrent and you are right about jar jar

[Evenstar1400]

Jedi X, you obviously have spent so much time analyizing star wars and talking about it using lots of big words, but you cant make your point if no one knows what ur saying.

sorry, not trying to be mean.

and star wars still sucks.

[Elfhelm]

Indeed! Circumlocution is the very epitome of obfuscation! I would suggest you deter from further grandeloquence and focus on the hermeneutic process at hand.

[b.banner]

i love starwars and lotr if you like superheros i say go to my thread

[b.banner]

i love starwars and love luke he is awsome but obi-wan rocks more

[IronParrot]

IronParrot, didn't you see my in-depth critical analysis of the two works above?

I'm surprised no one has commented on my superb use of neo-Homeric reductionism.
Jedi X, that's because you're an exception to the rule, and furthermore, your post rules. :)

[hectorberlioz]

this thread should not exist! i hate this place! its so depressing!
LotR is more mature than star wars. but i like star wars more.

[b.banner]

lotr is not better than the classic starwars .and obi-wan could beat gandalf anytime. plus aragorn has stupid love issues and obi-wan doesnt . i love lotr but not as much as starwars:)

[Black Breathalizer]

If the mere mention of the films can cause administrators to jump into action in the books forum, then I propose that from now on:

Mentioning the name STAR WARS in this forum -- or worse, yet comparing it to LOTR -- should be grounds to immediately eliminate the post, close the thread and shoot to death the poster!!!

:)

[HOBBIT]

how about not? all the admins like star wars :p

[Black Breathalizer]

That explains alot.

[HOBBIT]

has it not been mentioned to you that this board was started out of a big Star Wars discussion board?

Darth Tater and bmilder decided to create it after discussing it there.......... the first wave of new members were all from there. :p

[IronParrot]

Yeah, and that's pretty much the only reason we even keep the Star Wars forum around.

Oops, did I say that aloud? :)

[hectorberlioz]

this thread is cruel! crueeel! people shouldnt have to compare star wars to lotr.

[b.banner]

it is stupid to compare starwars and lotr they both are good why is there even a thread about this

[IronParrot]

It's funny, because right now I'm also dealing with this exact same thread at a Star Wars forum I post at, where they're bashing LOTR.

Critical, analytical comparisons of the two are excellent and very welcome.

Movie X is better than Movie Y comparisons are stupid.

Class dismissed.