Favourite human hero in The Sil

[Durin1]

There were many herioc men during the first age, but my favourite would have to be Hurin.

He is not the typical "tall" blonde, stereotype normally associated with Tolkien's heroes and he comes across as being very noble and lacking in ego (especially alongside the ridiculous Morwen).

P.S
Can't stand Tuor! Prefer Turin, even if he did cause more trouble tha he was worth!

Don't ask me why but Tuor just comes across as being a bit too perfect and everything just seems to fall onto his lap. Idril, for example, he'd hardly been in Gondolin five minutes and already he was able to pick out one of the most beautiful girls in Beleriand! Sickening.

[Lalaith]

Probalbly Turin because I always loved his story.

[Sween]

i personally do like Tour and i dont think everything fell into his lap the fall of Gondolin had to be trying! Turin doesnt intrest me at all for some reason i think Beren pretty cool as well

[Fat middle]

Though he doesn't seem to be very nice of character and could result rather unfriendly, since I read The Wanderings of Hurin, I'm very impressed with him too. A simple gaze of him would put his enemies to run.:cool:

[Falagar]

Húrin, certainly. I haven't finished all of "The Wanderings of Húrin", but combined with the texts found in the Silmarillion he is definetly my favorite.

[Ñólendil]

I love Tuor, he's one of my all-time favorite characters. So poo on you.

[Jonathan]

Heroes are so much more interesting when things go bad for them. Therefore I pick Túrin before Tuor. Definitely.

[EDIT] It just came to my mind that things didn't go really good for Húrin either :). But what the heck, I stick with Túrin. Húrin just sat there imprisoned for many years and didn't do anything. Túrin had a much more interesting life.

[Sister Golden Hair]

I did not find Morwen to be ridiculious.

I did like the character or, maybe I should say, the story that revolved around the character of Turin. Of course, he was prideful and although under a curse, I believe he caused much of his own misfortune.

Not too fond of many of the Human males of the First Age.

[Maedhros]

From The Lays of Beleriand: The Lay of the Children of Húrin

Then Húrin answered, Hithlum's chieftain --
his shining eyes with sheen of fire
in wrath were reddened: 'O ruinous one,
by fear unfettered I have fought thee long,
nor dread thee now, nor thy demon slaves,
fiends and phantoms, thou foe of Gods! '
His dark tresses, drenched and tangled,
that fell o'er his face he flung backward,
in the eye he looked of the evil Lord --
since that day of dread to dare his glance
has no mortal Man had might of soul.

Húrin of course.

[Jonathan]

This thread has many similarities with Maedhros's Greatest of Edain thread (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7118&perpage=20&pagenumber=1).
It's worth checking out.

[Sheeana]

Hurin? Pah. Gimme Turin any day of the week.

[Earniel]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Not too fond of many of the Human males of the First Age.

I suppose in an age with a certain Elf named Finrod, all other males naturally fail to impress... ;)

Personally my favorite is Tuor, partially because the connection with Gondolin but still. He's the only man that is counted among the Elves.

Túrin is too much dark and brooding for my taste.

[Anglorfin]

Tuor, he's the son of a fallen hero and savior of both races. Though when it came down to it not a lot of people listened to him.

Second would be Hurin. He defied Morgoth to his face.

[Artanis]

Still Húrin for me I think. And lately I've become more and more impressed by Morwen. She was strong, fearless and faithful.

[Elenna Alaniel]

Beren and Hurin.but I also like Haleth.she was relly strong woman

[Lanelf]

I don't really know. Beren is a favourite of mine, of course, but after that quote about Hurin - Thank you Maedhros! - I'm leaning a bit over that way too. Not too keen on Turin, but the thing is: none of it was really his fault, except for pride. Not his fault he married his sister, or anything. Poor bloke.
Lanelf.

[Maedhros]

Hurin? Pah. Gimme Turin any day of the week.
Let's see:
From the Appendix of the Narn:
For fear of that helm all foes avoided him, and thus it was that he came off unhurt from that deadly field. It was thus that he came back to Nargothrond wearing the Dragon-helm, and Glaurung, desiring to rid Túrin of its aid and protection (since he himself feared it), taunted him, saying that surely Túrin claimed to be his vassal and retainer, since he bore his master's likeness on the crest of his helm.
But Túrin answered: "Thou liest, and knowest it. For this image was made in scorn of thee; and while there one to bear it doubt shall ever assail thee, lest the bearer deal thee thy doom."
"Then it must await a master of another name," said Glaurung; "for Túrin son of Húrin I do not fear. Otherwise is it. For he has not the hardihood to look me in the face, openly."
And indeed so great was the terror of the Dragon that Túrin dared not look straight upon his eye, but had kept the visor of his helmet down, shielding his face, and in his parley had looked no higher than Glaurung's feet. But being thus taunted, in pride and rashness he thrust up the visor and looked Glaurung in the eye.

So we have Túrin who was afraid and daunted by the eyes of Glaurung, a mere vassal of Morgoth, while Thalion the Steadfast look at Morgoth's eyes undaunted.

And Túrin is greater than Húrin? Hehe.

[Sheeana]

At what point did I say GREATEST? Where does it say GREATEST in the thread title? :rolleyes: :p

[Maedhros]

At what point did I say GREATEST? Where does it say GREATEST in the thread title?
Better? Pah. Weaker in might of soul? Yes. Killing his friend with a sword? Yes.
Túrin over Húrin? Pah, Pah.

[Sheeana]

At least Turin wasn't stupid enough to go and get himself ensnared by Morgoth. You could almost say that the Doom of Turin was Hurin's fault.

Pah, pah, pah. :p

[afro-elf]

But being thus taunted, in pride and rashness he thrust up the visor and looked Glaurung in the eye.

He did eventually do so correct?

What was the result of him doing so?

I would say my favorite are the sons of Bor.

Being all swarthy of color and all.

[Elvellon]

Beren is my favourite human character, although Tuor’s fate was much better, compared with him, and Turin and Hurin.

[Lord Manafirogh]

Turin is my my favourite human. He just kept going. Bad fortune but a great worrier.

[Attalus]

Originally posted by Maedhros
Better? Pah. Weaker in might of soul? Yes. Killing his friend with a sword? Yes.
Túrin over Húrin? Pah, Pah. I agree. I think Turin was a loon. Beren for me, then Hurin. :p

[Wayfarer]

I happen to like Beren.

[Durin1]

In my opinion, Beren was a bit insufferable. I can't remember any time where he ACTUALLY did anything without the aid of Luthien, apart from maybe, his attack on Celegorm and Curufin.

His "quest" would have ended right at its very beginning if it hadn't been for his ridiculously incredible luck (or "fate" as Tolkien would have put it)!

[Eärloth]

Originally posted by Sheeana
At least Turin wasn't stupid enough to go and get himself ensnared by Morgoth. You could almost say that the Doom of Turin was Hurin's fault.

Pah, pah, pah. :p

And yet he was stupid enough to reject the pardon of Thingol, to kill his best friend, to marry his sister despite whatever physical similarities there would have been between them, to murder a King for the mere report of her death when it angered him, to weaken before a subject of Morgoth and to kill himself...whereas Húrin sat before Morgoth himself for numerous years with the threat of Melkor's curse on him and his family without committing suicide...?

And I liked Haleth. Although she didn't really do a lot to sway the fate of the Jewels, she kicked arse.

[Eärloth]

Originally posted by Durin1
In my opinion, Beren was a bit insufferable. I can't remember any time where he ACTUALLY did anything without the aid of Luthien, apart from maybe, his attack on Celegorm and Curufin.

But is there anything genuinely wrong with that? And he was *prepared* to go on without her; I remember him trying to leave her behind several times.

[Durin1]

Originally posted by Eärloth
But is there anything genuinely wrong with that? And he was *prepared* to go on without her; I remember him trying to leave her behind several times.

Which would have made the Lay of Leithian about a page long, owing to the abrupt and untimely death of the "hero". Let's face it, he wouldn't have got very far.

[Eärloth]

Originally posted by Durin1
Which would have made the Lay of Leithian about a page long...

Not if you used really big writing!!!:p

[Turgon_Turambar]

Even though he was a bit short sighted at times, killed Beleg, impregnated his own sister among other things i still reckon he was the best. Hurin wasnt bad either.

[Eärloth]

Originally posted by Turgon_Turambar
Even though he was a bit short sighted at times, killed Beleg, impregnated his own sister among other things i still reckon he was the best. Hurin wasnt bad either.

Yes - maybe it would be best if people would measure the good of these heroes instead of summing up the faults of those they don't like.

[Tuor of Gondolin]

:) Hello!

Hmmm. Let me see. Favorite human character in the Silmarillion. That's a tough one. Umm, err, hmmmmm. I know!. Tuor!
(Well, after all, if he had ticked off Elemmakil and gotten to Gondolin the future of Middle Earth would have been rather darker (for starters, no Strider, Arwen, or Agent Smith).:D

P. S. I'm still working on a signature.
P.P.S Also still looking for a message icon and figuring out how to customize paste one.
P.P.P.S. I didn't know about P.S. addings until reading the Lord of the Rings (in the last milennium).

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Tuor of Gondolin
Hmmm. Let me see. Favorite human character in the Silmarillion. That's a tough one. Umm, err, hmmmmm. I know!. Tuor! Welcome to the moot! :)
Your choice seems pretty obvious considering your username. :D

[Captain Stern]

Got to be Hurin for me too. He seemed like a titanic figure compared to the rest of his race.

I haven't read enough about Tuor to give him any consideration.

Originally posted by Maedhros:

"And indeed so great was the terror of the Dragon that Túrin dared not look straight upon his eye, but had kept the visor of his helmet down, shielding his face, and in his parley had looked no higher than Glaurung's feet. But being thus taunted, in pride and rashness he thrust up the visor and looked Glaurung in the eye."

So we have Túrin who was afraid and daunted by the eyes of Glaurung, a mere vassal of Morgoth, while Thalion the Steadfast look at Morgoth's eyes undaunted


To do something even though you're afraid of it. Isn't that the very definition of bravery?

[Imric]

I think Hurin would be my favorite ''human'' character from the Silmarillion. Whenever I reread his tragic tale I am reminded of both Heracles and Samson.

[Ruinel]

I liked Beren, but I have to say that Tuor also was a good Atan to like. :)

[Wayfarer]

Beren, Tuor, and Hurin, in that order, are my current favorites.

[Maedhros]

It's got to be Thalion the Steadfast, the Great Hero. He faced Morgoth face to face and never flinched. Could Beren had withstood Morgoth that way?
No.

Thalion the Steadfast it is.

[Maedhros]

To do something even though you're afraid of it. Isn't that the very definition of bravery?
That was just plain stupid. His pride got the best of him.

[Radagast The Brown]

I say Tuor, he was the best human. I didn't really like Beren, from some reason.
Originally posted by Meadhros
It's got to be Thalion the Steadfast, the Great Hero. He faced Morgoth face to face and never flinched. Could Beren had withstood Morgoth that way?
No.You mean Hurin? (I'm not sure)

You can't really know what would've Beren do if he was facing Morgoth. And Hurin, eventually, helped Morgoth, even if it wasn't intentionally.

[Falagar]

I've never really gotten into Tuor or Beren...It's hard to describe, but they seem to only do what they're supposed to. Always the good things. We seldom get to see why or what they feel about it, or if they ever wondered "why am I doing this?", "Why me?", will I be able to do it?"...

Or perhaps it's just a long time since I read the Silmarillion.

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by Falagar
I've never really gotten into Tuor or Beren...It's hard to describe, but they seem to only do what they're supposed to. Always the good things. We seldom get to see why or what they feel about it, or if they ever wondered "why am I doing this?", "Why me?", will I be able to do it?"...

Or perhaps it's just a long time since I read the Silmarillion. I think you're right about Tuor, but UT does tell about him so... UT tells what he was thinking and doing. In details.

[Falagar]

It's a long time since I read UT as well. ;)

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
You can't really know what would've Beren do if he was facing Morgoth.Oh but he did face Morgoth, you know. And then he did - nothing. It was his half-divine gf who saved the day.

[Falagar]

Originally posted by Artanis
Oh but he did face Morgoth, you know. And then he did - nothing. It was his half-divine gf who saved the day.
Sissy! :D

*runs to hide*

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Artanis
Oh but he did face Morgoth, you know. And then he did - nothing. It was his half-divine gf who saved the day. That is very true. :) Go Luthien!
There's a couple of versions that were pretty cool in BoLTs. Not sure if it was 1 or 2 right now. Intersting how Beren was forced to work in the kitchen until Luthien saved him. :)

But why is it so bad to have a woman (Elf or Human) save you if you are a man? Look at Eowyn... how brave and strong she was in standing up to the Witch King. :)

[Falagar]

Originally posted by Ruinel
That is very true. :) Go Luthien!
There's a couple of versions that were pretty cool in BoLTs. Not sure if it was 1 or 2 right now. Intersting how Beren was forced to work in the kitchen until Luthien saved him. :)
Wasn't he also forced to work for that great cat? Can't remember the name of it right now, Tevilius or similar. Interesting that, a cat as the almost ultimate evil with human slaves. Sounds like my own. ;)

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Falagar
Wasn't he also forced to work for that great cat? Can't remember the name of it right now, Tevilius or similar. Interesting that, a cat as the almost ultimate evil with human slaves. Sounds like my own. ;) That was the story, yes. :) Cat's are evil. ;)

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Falagar
Sissy! :D

*runs to hide* Hee-hee. I can see why Finrod ran away with him. :D


*runs to hide behind Falagar*

[Silpion]

Right now, I am partial to Tuor. At the fall of Gondolin, and after, he kept what elves he could together and moving to some safety. Which is also why I like Haleth who held her people together.