The Great Quest - Discussion

[Mathron]

Ok, I have begun the new RPG!
Title is a bit corny, I admit...
Anyway, the three I have so far are Faradin, Slythre, and Mal.
So, we three are traveling right now, down the Entwash, following after the mysterious bad guys who captured Dania and Narsh...
So, they are, yes, heading in the vague direction of Mordor, but don't worry, I am not planning on having them go in there!
Hopefully we shall get some new people, too, so if anyone wishes to join in, feel free!
-Mathron

[Lief Erikson]

Okay, I've thought of my plot line for this RPG. And it'll be taking a completely different course from the last one.

I've got a plan for why Dania and Narsh were captured, and I hope that that doesn't spoil any one else's plans. By the way, they aren't meant to know the reason of why they were captured at all.

[Mathron]

Ok, I think I see where you are going with your plot line...
I have plans, still, for the mysterious warrior people, but I think I can fit them in, easily, as simply working for your villain (ie, mercenary themselves to him).
-Mathron

[Lief Erikson]

Perhaps, but I haven't given nearly enough information for you to know entirely what I'm planning.

[Lief Erikson]

Great to have you, Roland!

[Syntia]

Hello mind if i join ?

[Mathron]

*Does a double take*

Sure, feel free to do so!
-Mathron

[Lief Erikson]

Anyone who wants to join in is more than welcome. We had only five players in Fangorn Forest, so we'd love to have more involved in this one.

By the way, Mathron, I think it's your call to answer Ayna's question.

[Morkhon]

I'm playing and will be posting from time to time. I hope to add Gungar, a dwarf character sometime soon. Tommorrow as I'll be busy tonight, I love Valentine's Day.

[Lief Erikson]

Mathron, I think that you actually don't have much idea as to my plan. My master wants Dania and Narsh exclusively. The others he doesn't care about, except that he won't want them intercepting those who are bringing the elves to him.

And his men aren't in disguise of men from Rohan, they really are men from Rohan.

Perhaps you should revise your theory a little bit. I've got a ways to go before everything in my plan comes to light.

[Mathron]

I will admit quite freely I don't know anything about your plan! ~grin~
But, remember, the guys who kidnapped Dania and Narsh were the guys who had the deformed faces and were after Mal, in Fangorn Forest. So, unless, at some point, Dania and Narsh magically vanished from their captivity and into that of your villain's men, they have to be transferred between them. I figured the easiest way to do this was to have the disguised guys be working with your villain, and have agreed to capture the elves while they were already hunting the others. Although, I admit - Villains working together? Evil getting along!? Totally implausible. ;P
If you have a better way to do things, though, feel free to come up with something.. don't see how easy it would be, though.

[Lief Erikson]

Actually, I guess it's fine that they were transferred. But my guys don't care about anyone but the elves, unless the others get in the way, which, knowing them, they probably will.

[Roland]

This looks as though it will be a lot of fun. Always wanted to play an orc character. And I'll tell you guys now, Ulrog's master isn't Sauron or Saruman. BTW what time period is this set?

[Mathron]

Shortly before the Lord of the Rings. To place things even a bit more, Gandalf escaped from Saruman a week or two ago (game time). (As I tossed in a hint of in one of my posts in the Fangorn Forest RPG :cool: )
-Mathron

[Roland]

Here's the problem. I'd planned initially to make Ulrog's master a completely new villan, but at this point in the plot introducing someone completely new seems inappropriate. So does making him a servant of either Sauron or Saruman, as up to now it doesn't look as though they've had much to do with the proceedings. So here's where I need help. Do we have any established villans that could fill the role? I'm hoping to make all this fit nicely into the plot you two have assembled so well. If you want to mail me about this I can be reached here:
kong33@start.com.au
I'm interested to see what you guys think about this.

[Lief Erikson]

How about if Vardor is in command of him. You know, he does have some interest in the others. They are powerful, were the companions of Dania and Narsh earlier, and could be a pain in the neck to his plans.

[Lief Erikson]

Syntia, weren't you planning on joining in? We certainly aren't too far yet, if that's worrying you.

[Syntia]

I have no idea about what to play :(

[Lief Erikson]

Be Syntia returned from the Blessed Realms to help our valiant heroes in their hour of need!

Or take on a completely new character, if you like.

[Morkhon]

Ok, now I'm confused about what happened at the meeting. We went to see the King, saw Grima instead. He asks what he can do for us and the next thing I read is were leaving because something bad happened, but no explanation to what that was.

[Lief Erikson]

It was implied. We all know Grima's character. He's grasping, power greedy, and downright mean. It's logical that he gave them the boot after they refused to answer his questions directly.

[Elbreth of Carhouth]

Okey-day, could I get a quick run down on what's going on, and where I am (if you know) before I just jump in?

[Lief Erikson]

Good to have you back.

The adventure began with Mal and the others sailing down the Entwash in pursuit of Dania and Narsh's captors. They met a woman named Ayna at the riverbank, and got the thought into their heads that she might be a spy. They sent Harnauro with her and proceeded in their journey.

Ayna was attacked several times by orcs, and Harnauro fended them off. Eventually she reached her destination, a hill where many people lived. They had all been massacred by unknown assailants for unknown reasons. She found a elf at the site named Elrov, and they, and the wolf, camped their before proceeding to Ethrilien, the valley where Elrov lived.

Now some side information: Into the valley of Ethrilien, at an earlier point a man named Evron came, on a mission for Lord Thaldsan of Rohan. He left again after a short stay in the valley.

An evil person named Vardor has been staying in Edoras, and he controls Thaldsan. The creatures that captured Dania and Narsh were working for him.

A dwarf named Gungar (Morkhon's new character) joined them on their adventure.

Now back to the main story:

After a while the main group's journey took them to where Evron was; he commanded the scouts on the edge of Edoras' boundary. He helped them fight some wargs that attacked them, and then escorted them to Edoras, where they were greeted by Lord Thaldsan.

After trying unsuccessfully to get to the king (their progress was halted by Grima) they decided to use more direct methods.

Meanwhile, Dania found that it was only her that they were after. Vardor came and questioned her himself, but was unable to get any useful information from her. She still doesn't know exactly why they were after her at all.

The band of brave rescuers broke into the prison and escaped with Dania and Narsh in tow. They didn't have to kill any Rohirrim either, just knocked them out.

They scattered into the city, intending to regroup at a specific meeting place given by Mal, and that's as far as their adventure has gone so far.

Vardor left Rohan the night of the rescuing, bound for the eagle's location, surprisingly enough. Once he reached it, he killed his contact there, intending to work through someone else.

Back to Ayna, Harnauro and Elrov:

Right, while they were camped they were attacked by a horrible creature. Harnauro leapt to their defense and was batted away, horribly wounded. The creature's lack of maneuverability was the only reason that they all escaped. Elrov helped the wounded Harnauro away and Ayna fled on her horse, intending to regroup with them at Ethrilien.

Instead, she ended up being captured by an orc named Ulrog, (Roland's character) under Vardor's orders. Elrov and Harnauro found out, and even now are leaping to her rescue.

This is a rather abridged overview. If anyone would like to give any details I forgot, please do. Hope to have you writing here soon!

[Lief Erikson]

Xivigg, I'm a little confused by your last post. They already left the prisons, and they aren't moving as a group anymore. I made them decide they'd be too easy to track together, and split up with a meeting place in mind.

[Xivigg]

sorry i must have missed something

just disregard it if it make no sence

[Lief Erikson]

"Well, I can't keep it dark any longer. I have got something to tell you all. But I don't know quite how to begin," to quote a famous hobbit.

Well, the long and short of it is that we leaving for Florida tomorrow to visit relatives. Therefore, for a week this thing will be going much more slowly, I fear. It is possible that I be able to write a few posts from Florida, but doubtful that it'll be much more.

Sorry to slow this thing down so much. And don't try to use my characters too much, as my plot is pretty intricite, and could be messed up by a character doing something totally off from what I was intending. You can do whatever you like with Slythre or Elrov, though.

But I've still got today, so let's see what we can get done in that amount of time.

[Mathron]

Well, I myself will be busy all this upcoming weekend, but we can see what we can get down to day, and let things slow down till next week!
Enjoy your trip!
-Mathron

[Lief Erikson]

Thanks.

[Lief Erikson]

Well, we've arrived safely, and I celebrated the occasion by getting lost almost immediately. But that's all over now, and surprisingly I also got Internet Access tonight. So on with the conversation!

[Lief Erikson]

I'm back, and ready to continue to play at the earlier speed. I'm rather tired tonight, though, so I'll probably be doing longer and better posts tomorrow.

[Mathron]

Welcome back!
It has, indeed, been a bit slow the last few days... but all is now well, so I guess we shall be getting back on track.
-Mathron

[Lief Erikson]

Thank-you, and I agree it was slow. I only had minimal internet access at that time, as it had to be paid for by the minute. But yes indeed, let's proceed with the adventure!

[Morkhon]

I'm sorry, but I must withdraw from the game. There's alot going on in my life right now and I just don't have the time to keep up with it.

[Lief Erikson]

Elbreth, I'm afraid that like Xivigg you're a little behind the times. I haven't been updating the history of what's happened in this so far, but I shall do so now. Dania was rescued from Edoras by our valiant heroes who have connected with Ayna, Elrov and Harnauro. They are being pursued by a Nrake, which is a natural born hunter and its wounds heal pretty quickly by themselves, and obsidian armored creatures who Mathron is owning. Their leader is called 'broodlord.' Ayna has continued showing her interest in Dania, although they haven't spoken together. If you wish to start such a conversation, please do. It could be interesting.

And Mathron, Vardor likes to know about the people under his command, for whatever amount of time. And he doesn't only do so from information sources, or backtracking. He is capable of judging expressions, reactions, and other subtle clues from long practice in his search. Although probably in the beginning Vardor didn't know that they were anything but mercenaries, using skillful deduction, reasoning, and other information he picked up, he could figure it out. Even if it's a bit of an alien creature.

[Mathron]

Ok, sounds fine. Although it is hard to read someones expression when their face turns to a pile of mush if they get startled. ~grin~
I was just letting you know that if Vardor knew they served another (which is certainly possible, as he would only have needed to listen in on one of their meetings), he wouldn't be open about knowing it, presumably. And he likely would not be able to find out any more than that they had a master, without a LOT of time devoted to just such a search.

Morkhon- sorry to see ya go, hope you can find a way back here at some point.

And Elsbreth! Welcome back! Once you figure out what is going on. :P Now Mal's the one thats been kidnapped!
-Mathron

[Lief Erikson]

Quite so. Sorry to forget mentioning that as an important occurence.

[Xivigg]

you post too often
i can't keep up with the number of post you add in one day
i can at most post only once in a day
and at the speed thing goes it dosen't worth trying
if i try to do something everything will be solved before i have the chance to post again

[Lief Erikson]

Once a day should be enough. We don't mind too much if you post only a little, though.

[Mathron]

True. And remember, your character does not have to always be with us, he could be doing his own thing at his own pace.
-Mathron

[Lief Erikson]

How come we often have this problem? Not the first RPG that people have thought we've been going too fast on.

I guess we just enjoy it too much. :)

[Mathron]

~grin~
I am trying to get some others into here, so hopefully things may expand some more.
-Mathron

[Lief Erikson]

I've been trying too, for a while now, but I am getting the feeling that no one is listening to me.

[Lief Erikson]

Do you have any way of converting your time to California time? Any of you? If so, perhaps we could all be online at the same time, and do it at once, responding to each other's posts at a much more rapid pace.

[Mathron]

Hmm.. perhaps, not sure if it would work...
Also, for those who have limited time, it wouldn't exactly help.
And I think, personally, it would detract somewhat from it as a whole - I prefer the more gradual pace, rather than treating it like a fast-paced convo.
-Mathron

[Lief Erikson]

That's true. All right, s**** that idea.

And Xivigg, people can post only once every two or three days. Roland is doing that now, although a little quicker then that. You were posting almost only once a week in Fangorn Forest, and that still worked out great.

[Mathron]

The next few days are a bit busy for me, so I will be posting at quite a reduced wait for some time now. Also, the end of this week I might not be able to post at all for a few days.

By the way, Harnauro's words to Arnon were simply implying that by killing prisoners, and hoping that the enemy would not come after him, he was not protecting his people because he was simply ignoring the threat and wishing it away - it was just Harnauro trying to get him angry, is all.

[Lief Erikson]

I see.

Do you think it now is a little late to continue asking people to join this RPG?

[Mathron]

Certainly not!
We still have plenty of my part of the adventure to deal with - the party has been so focused on the Vardor storyline you introduced early on, that they haven't proceeded as far down the path towards my villain.
-Mathron

[Lief Erikson]

You think then that it's possible to interlink them? It was a very grand ending we had for Fangorn Forest, but I think two separate endings wouldn't work very well in this case either.

[Mathron]

I am pretty sure it won't be possible to interlink them. What we might do is, once your storyline is ended (and I think it might be the first one done, as mine requires the party to move quite a bit further on, and yours seems fairly advanced), we can wrap this one up, and I can start yet another post to continue down towards my storyline.
-Mathron

[Lief Erikson]

Last time you didn't think it would be possible to interlink them either. I think having a single ending is probably the best way to finish the story. Otherwise it seems broken up and not very complete. At least it feels that way to me.

To me, the only other possibility is that the RPG ends and we begin yet another to complete yours, although I must confess that that idea isn't very appealing to me. Not that I dislike the idea of having another afterwards, possibly with the same characters, but I'd hate to see this all broken up.

Fangorn Forest had a very tidy ending, considering how diverse our two plots were.

[Mathron]

Well, the thing was - I didn't have too much of a plot in Fangorn Forest. Just one character following Mal around. Whereas in this one, I have a bad guy in the distance... but we shall see where this goes, in any case.
-Mathron

[Lief Erikson]

Well my plot is as intricite and developed as ever. :D

If your plot is very diverse from mine, then at least we could hopefully make the two different plot endings end at the same time. I think that having one single ending is vital to a well put together story, otherwise, as I said earlier, it seems too broken up.

But as you said, we'll just have to see how the wind blows, and the tale unfolds.

[Mathron]

Most true. And there are events stirring up that may start drawing things together... but since I don't have time for many long posts for the next week, shall have to wait a bit.
-Mathron

[Lief Erikson]

Yes, there still is a ways to go before the end, I'm not suggesting that we finish soon. This one I have a larger plot for then Fangorn Forest.

Long posts haven't proved necessary over the last few days, though, so that doesn't really have much effect on how things are happening. Its been largely blow by blow conversation.

And Roland, when Ulrog tells about Vardor, don't make him give too much, for, as you said, he doesn't know much, and shouldn't even know about the eagle alliance. It would have been far more logical if Vardor had killed him instantly. But its fine, I guess, as it has turned out.

[Roland]

Harnuaro had that pretty much figured that out already, I didn't think it would matter if Ulrog confirmed it. And remember Ulrog is an orc, not a race known for their intellect. Vardor would have no reason to think that he would understand the relevance of what he had heard. Also, I imagine Vardor would consider the punishment enough to keep an orc silent.
I hope my latest post doesn't give away anything it shouldn't.

[Lief Erikson]

Nope, no problem there.

But Vardor doesn't care about slaying one small orc in exchange for possibly keeping an important secret safe. He knows about Ulrog's intelligence, but he still would have killed him. But it's fine this way. Revealing that little bit helps my plans, in a way.

[Mathron]

I see the main problem as that of Narsh and the Nightrider. I think we should go with the Nightrider's death, as Aetoo wouldn't have avoided the fight completely. If he had, that would have meant he would have instead simply watched and followed your guys back to their lair - which would have been out of character, and even more, it would also have meant Vardor would shortly be nice and packaged up and going down the same route Mal is, completely bereft of power. Since I don't think that is what we need happen, I think we should go with a duel to the death between Aetoo and the Nightrider.
As for the rest, it mostly went the same - mine ended with the fight still going on, so you could have split up your first post, having it leading up to mine (and I could alter the start of mine to match however you wish), and then you could combine the rest of the fight with your second post. I guess having Ayna taken away, while Elrov is on the ground, bloody and bleeding, and, I assume, about to impart some vital knowledge to us. ;)
As for Narsh, you could have him carted off by the Nrakes as well (my post has him ending up on the ground, severely wounded, and if they just grabbed him and fled, they shouldn't have much trouble.
I think that would fix most things... any thing you wish to do differently?

[Lief Erikson]

You're right, it does seem a little odd that Aetoo would be completely disconnected from the battle. Although it also seems a little odd that he could defeat the Nightrider when last time he was beaten, especially considering that he doesn't have his jewel's defense anymore. That's probably one of the principle problems with how you did the battle in your other post. I liked it, but the Nightrider probably would have used his magical energy somewhat, instead of entirely submiting himself to using the martial arts, in which Aetoo is obviously his superior. Although not by very much.

[Lief Erikson]

I've got a question. Does your plot go very much deeper than what is already known about your character? Because if not, I think it would be fairly easy to interlink these endings.

If it does go much deeper, we might need another RPG to reach the end of it, unless this one is made to have what seems to be two endings. The ending of Vardor and his Great Quest and then later on the ending of your bad guys. If they are bad guys, which, considering what you made of your bad guys in the last RPG, is hardly certain.

The problem is, with the posts that have just happened tonight, I have reached another segment in my plot. And that is the ending segment. So, from here on I believe it will be pretty fast paced action until the end of my plot and adventure.

[Mathron]

I don't think it would be easy to interlink the plots, as my villain is rather far away, ensconced in a very guarded fortress with no reason to come out anytime soon. I think a continuation into one more RPG wouldn't be hard - the party finishing your ending sequence, they then need go looking for Mal, as it looks pretty certain he is going to wind up a prisoner.
As for Aetoo vs the Nightrider, it is true he was, in the end, losing in the battle. The only way he could kill the Nightrider was by effectively sacrificing himself, something he wasn't exactly planning on doing in the last battle.
You are right that I didn't have the Nightrider use his magic as much, which I could fix - it would probably have not made too much difference, as the Nightrider would have had about the same trouble hitting him, and his magic the same effect as if he simply hit Aetoo.

[Lief Erikson]

Also perhaps the method with which the Nightrider was done away with doesn't exactly fit in. The Nightrider appears to be a sort of void, a hole even darker than the sky and seeming to suck away life. You did that part excellently, but I don't think that he can exactly 'be filled' in that manner. People can't necessarily push their way into his body. He can be disipated, although that doesn't completely kill him, as in the death of the other Nightrider. Or he can be engulfed. Like if someone used magic so strong that it completely engulfed and destroyed him. And if he could be filled in that manner, one creature like that could not fill the void.

Obviously the shadow magic wouldn't work on him, only aid him, although that is a little bit off topic.

[Mathron]

The idea was not so much him being filled, as that Aetoo and him were of opposite natures. Aetoo and all his kind respresent, effectively, "anti-magic". It is like what would happen if white matter and black matter combined - big explosion. Aetoo's substance was so incompatible with his that it destroyed him, although Aetoo's "essence", or soul, was also annihilated.

[Lief Erikson]

I suppose that normally that might work. But I should think that the Nightrider's magical essence would be greater, or more strong than your creature's anti-magical essence. He seems stronger to me than your creature in his being, and although your creatures' great leader might have creatures with a stronger anti-magic being, such as the b'rak, I don't think that Aetoo is strong enough in that way to completely do away with the Nightrider, although it may injure him.

[Mathron]

It is true that the Nightrider's magical nature is probably more than the non-magical one of Aetoo... but recall when this is taking place. In the short term, the Nightrider has been rather weakened, has had his companion bested, and is very close to a powerful elven kingdom that would weaken him. And in the long term... the time of magic is fading. Most creatures in Middle Earth have lost much power. He is nowhere near as powerful as he would have been in past ages.

[Lief Erikson]

I don't recall this Nightrider being weakened, and Lothlorien is still two or three day's travel away. If he was in it, it would be a completely different story, or very near it. But the fact is, they aren't all that close, and such a slight difference wouldn't cause all that much trouble for the Nightrider. His companion having been defeated would make it a little more difficult for him personally, but also not enough to cause all that much trouble.

The fading of the age of magic is largely a matter of opinion. There weren't that many highly magical creatures in Middle Earth to begin with, but the ones that were there, such as Sauron, Galadriel and Gandalf, were moving quite the other way around in powers. They all seemed to me to be increasing rather than decreasing, particularly Gandalf and Sauron.

And even if it was fading, the Nightrider had been in Vardor's lair and protection for long enough that the passage of the ages had little effect on it. Sort of the protection that being in the land of Valinor might give. It isn't as strong as it was before, certainly, but it is still great enough to be quite capable of defeating Aetoo when those types of methods are used.

[Lief Erikson]

I've got a few questions about your plot:

Is it much more involved then has already been shown? Is there a goal which their leader has, other than the irradication of magic? Or maybe a reason for the irradication of magic?

I don't know about you, but I am more interested in ending this once and for all at the end of this RPG. These two have certainly been fun, but I'm more interested in making an all new RPG later on, instead of continuing this one again. Especially when it so obviously isn't over.

I think what we mainly need is a connected ending, and if your plot doesn't go extremely deep or intricite, I certainly have a good reason for the leader of your bad guy to come out himself. Or at least send all of his b'raks and main military power. It would be at the end, and it would be logical. As well as connected to my plot. And then perhaps Mal could escape, and maybe fight your leader himself. Or if one of your people dropped some hint as to his location and purpose, someone else could go there and rescue him.

[Mathron]

The plot is not too much more involved than has been shown - the madman has been essentially collecting, well, Maia's and the like, and draining off their power and souls for various activities. He is essentially trying to remove all magic in middle-earth.
I think I may have a way to connect them, then, if you wish to really wrap this up. But I will have to see where your plot is going a bit more before doing so.
And, actually, I just thought of a little twist to my guy's plans that could very well work to tie this all together...

As for the Nightrider, I personally think Aetoo could have taken him. If you really, really don't think so, I will unwrite it... but it likely would have meant a very big change to what happened, as Aetoo wouldn't have just stood there to die if he couldn't hurt the Nightrider, and would have struck out against the Nrake's. And it would have taken him less than a minute to kill all of them. Which would severely change their capture of Anya.

[Lief Erikson]

It is logical that Aetoo would have attacked the Nightrider instead of the Nrakes. And I think he probably would have attempted to do what he did as well. But I think that the Nightrider probably would have already wounded and weakened him with his magical bolts of energy, as well as in the fight, and then when in the end he attempted to do what he did, the Nightrider would have overpowered Aetoo, although he himself would have been hurt badly by that type of conflict.

All right, well I also have a good idea of how to connect the plot strands at the end so long as your plot is as you just said it is, and it doesn't go any deeper. The reason is very logical, and if it happens I think that your villain might end up saving the day instead of being a big pain in the neck. But if it's going to work out, your guy will simply have to keep his men continue with the company.

[Mathron]

Trying to apply logic in a world filled with dragons and elves, eh? ;)
Ok, I don't like it (spent a lot of time and effort writing up that combat between the two!) but if you are dead set on it, I will go and let the Nightrider live... though that is going to completely mess with all I had ... erg, I will have to rewrite the entire post. Sigh, I will do it sometime tonight, then.
What I don't get, if Vardor has a creature immune to physical harm, is why he doesn't just, really fast, kill of all the eagles and take their stuff? I mean, why have any other minions at all, if he has something that is immune to anything save for the most powerful of magical weapons, and that could simply rip apart Balrogs and Dragons?

[Lief Erikson]

The Nightrider can't simply rip apart Balrogs and dragons. Certainly not Balrogs, and dragons would also be very difficult. As I see it, your creature's main two offensive abilities are partially his anti-magicness, and mainly his speed. As has been shown so far, they can move probably much faster than either Harnauro or the Nightriders. The Nightriders can move fast, but not so much as Aetoo. The Nightrider's two main offensive abilities are one: its highly odd and incomprehensible substance, and two its offensive energy weapons. The dragon's size and fire are large advantages for them in a battle, and Aetoo has neither, again, his speed being almost his only weapon. The Nightrider's substance makes use of that difficult to make a strong offensive with, and that was what forced your creature to rely on its anti-magicness to deal with the Nightrider. The Nightrider having a stronger magic substance than Aetoo has a anti-magic sustance means that your creature probably would be the one to perish in such a rub-a-war, although it could most likely take a lot out of the Nightrider, leaving it badly wounded and making it take a LONG time to recover.

Vardor could have had the Nightrider deal with the eagles in such a function, probably, but doing that would not get him what he wants. As you'll see in a soon-to-happen post, you'll see that such an attack would be useless, and possibly counterproductive.

I should say that the Nightrider is probably less vulnerable to physical harm than Harnauro, but around that. Arrows and swords have little effect on him, although they can take him apart with those weapons, but that would also require a great deal of effort.

In your post, all that will need to be changed is the ending of their duel, not the entirety of the duel or the other stuff around. That and the fact that Narsh appears to be dead but isn't, no one actually either seeing the blow fall but not having any proof as to his life, either.

[Mathron]

OK. Still, speed was only a part of Aetoo's power - basically, he was a killing machine. He, quite literally, is strong enough to rip apart solid stone - he could probably demolish a mountain, given time. He could probably kill a thousand men in less than 10 minutes. In his natural shape, he *is* on a scale with a dragon - not quite as large or able to breath fire, but stronger and faster certainly. But the Nightriders are your creatures, so it is your call.
And what I meant by it causing me to revise a bit more is that, as the Nightrider isn't taken out in the first few minutes of the battle, that means the party is going to have troubles. But I will deal with that when I edit my post, which will be in a few hours, when I have some more time.

[Lief Erikson]

Acknowledged.

[Mathron]

OK, I've edited my post, I'll leave you to realter your posts around mine. I guess all you need to do is transfer your part of the battle to after mine, and have them take off with Ayna and Narsh. I left off with the companions having troubles, as the broodlord now fought alone, Narsh and Elrov down, Gungar still unable to fight. That leaves Slythre, Harnauro, Faradin and Elrov, along with Seetoo. Ulrog is cowering somewhere, methinks. ~grin~
You should be able to weave your stuff in afterwords without trouble.

[Mathron]

OK, my post is all set up. Narsh wasn't quite dead in my post before, but I lessened his injury as well.
In any case, all that is left to tie up is your first post - just remove the beginning of the fight, and put the rest at the start of your second post. Since your first post ends with the attack over, it doesn't really flow going before mine. ~grin~

[Lief Erikson]

Right, doing so now . . .

[Lief Erikson]

Neat post, although I'm not very sure about the last sentence. The castle fell? With all of the main characters in it?

I might be okay with that ending . . . sort of . . . but I first want to know if that is what you intended by having the post that way.

[Mathron]

The castle is *starting* to fall. Hasn't hit the ground yet! So hopefully they may yet get out.
Whats the situation on the guys brawling in the void? I didn't decide whether or not the entrance would be sealed/drained/shut/whatever, since I didn't know whether you were doing anything else with that.

[Lief Erikson]

Yes, I'll wrap that up. I sort of thought it already was, but perhaps another post would make it clearer.

[Lief Erikson]

Good ending post. Faradin died closing the portal, but the rest of the post is quite good. So . . . shall we count this RPG as ended?

[Mathron]

Ah, hadn't been sure what was happening there, ok - I'll edit it, and then, we are done. :)

[The Black Lieutenant]

Sorry, I didn't realize this thread was here. Please delete my off-topic post from the game thread, along with my other two posts (my pointless additions to your story :lol: ).

So, are you guys going to start a new game? If so, I'm in. Maybe I'll start over with a different character.

[Lief Erikson]

Yes, The Great Quest is over and we'll be starting a new RPG. Mathron has contributed some ideas on when and where it should take place, so if you want to cast in your vote, please do.

[Roland]

Thanks for the excellent ending with Ulrog. Recently I haven't had time to post much (thanks to univerisity), but it's good to see the little guy wasn't forgotten.
I did have an idea where he incited a rebellion amoung Vardor's Orcs on the ground, but didn't have enough time to flesh it out. Still, the way it ended is great. Leaves the story of the characters open for continuation, but doesn't actually require it.

[Lief Erikson]

So are you also going to join into the next one?

[Mathron]

I noticed you had been absent of late, but wanted to have some wrap up of all the loose threads. :)
Glad you liked the ending of it. ~grin~

[Roland]

Studies permitting I'll most certainly join in the next RPG. I have no particular preference for a time period though.

[Lief Erikson]

The discussion for it is in the topic: I am going to have a adventure!