A World of Danger: Discussion

[Mathron]

Right! Hope everyone likes my starting of the RPG. The setting is Edlyn, a village in the woods of Northern Beleriand. Angband and Morgoth's hordes lie dangerously close to the north, and orcs and the like move through the woods, but Edlyn is well situated and easily defended. As such, and as one of the few villages in the area, it is a common lair for any of the travelers about.

I thought to do it in sections, which is why I named the RPG post "Part One." Due to the 100 post limit ezboard now enforces, I thought this could prove useful in the future. Enjoy!

[Darth Tater]

No 100 post limit here, we're csc gold.

[Mathron]

Really!? That is awesome - I thought the 100 post limit was just some random EZboard enforced madness. This is excellent news...

[Lief Erikson]

I'll be joining in, I expect. Just waiting until I get an idea.

[The Black Lieutenant]

Me too.

[Roland]

Ditto.

[Elbreth of Carhouth]

I already posted, if anyone cares to draw inspiration from mine... ;)

[Mathron]

Looks good, Elbreth!

[Darth Tater]

Leif, i hope I understood your post right. I assumed the character you had in the tavern was your bad guy

[Lief Erikson]

No, this is Steward. He's not a bad guy so far as you guys know . . . Vardor is the real enemy. Steward may or may not be bad, but he's got no wicked glint in his eyes.

[Mathron]

Lief and Tater, could you guys keep your non-RP posts to this thread? It just keeps things simpler than going OOC in the main thread, thanks.
On the multicharacter issue - I think the problem is that Lief is trying to do a complex plot that will affect all entirely, rather than, like the rest of the people, actually play a single character, plotwise. This would be fine if he was the one running the game - it is what a GM does - but not if he is just one of the other players. Otherwise, there are too many large plots going, if multiple characters are assuming the roles of storytellers. :(
Just my thought on the matter, though. I leave it to the mods to decide.

[Darth Tater]

Well Elbreth and I have talked about this sorta thing, and I think we agree. If one person controls too many characters they end up playing with themselves and others get lost. There are a number of people interested in this rpg, or at least there were at the beginning. I think some have been scared away by the complexities that have already arisen. Let's all play equally here, ok? It's a lot more fun that way

[Lief Erikson]

You seem to know my method pretty well, Mathron. Yes, my plots are usually built to draw in several players, and not to simply involve the one or two characters I myself am using. That is the main reason that I need more characters, to support the thing. But my plot is always flexible enough to admit other people's plots or ideas, and still work.

For instance, remember the Fangorn Forest scene where Mal confronts that . . . uh, creature on top of Orthanc? The Orthanc scene took place very differently from how I'd imagined it would. Nevertheless, only a single swift change brought everything back into line, and both yours and my plots came to a successful and well written ending.

Both type of RPG works, and we have a lot of characters involved in this RPG. Let's just play it, and see how it works out, all right? I'll try to keep my character numbers low, so as not to confuse any other players, and when I want to add another in, I'll notify either Darth Tater or Elbreth. I think the number of characters I have now should be pretty sufficient. Minor characters I think I'll probably just add in and take out as I need them without asking permission. I'll put a note in the discussion area when the new character is minor.

There. This is my best leg forward at a compromise. Is it enough to satisfy everyone?

If I scared any of you other players off, I apologize. :p

[The Black Lieutenant]

I think you're doing a great job.

[Lief Erikson]

:) Thanks.

Good to have you back in the game.

[Lief Erikson]

I'm sorry, but I have to leave the RPG. I was enjoying it and I think some of the rest of you were too, but others in the game didn't like how I bent the rules in using five characters instead of two. Deleting Vardor, Shelina and Steward is the only option left, and doing that would take everything out of the plot I had in mind. That leaves me only El'nela and the mad elf.

So I suppose we can say Vardor left from disinterest, Steward left the inn and never showed up again, Shelina died from her injuries, the mad elf died from his fall and Mathron will have to pick up El'nela and use her by himself.

Either that or Darth Tater and Elbreth choose their own method. In any case, I have to go. Perhaps later we can create a new RPG which has less restrictions. If that happens, I'll join it.

[Darth Tater]

Although I don't condone you breaking the rules, I wish I could have dealt with this better sooner and not let it go this far. Because of that I think it would be a dissapointement for you to leave now. I'm sure we can come to an agreement somewhere between the compromise you and I made and Elbreth's wishes.

[Mathron]

I am certain you can come to a compromise, Lief. The problem seems to be that you make all your characters having large roles, when this is not needed. For example - Vardor need never actually be present, but simply be referred to as a shadowy background figure. El'nela does not need to really be played as well, but simply remain as a key idea central to the plot. The mad elf cold easily be dropped, I suppose, in one way or another. I'm sure you can figure something out, instead of simply leaving.

[Lief Erikson]

None of the characters can be dropped, but Tater and I made a compromise earlier which might work if Elbreth gives the thumb up. He's willing to allow me three main characters and the other two only if they're minor. That works well because, as you say, Vardor and El'nela do not require frequent use. Having Elbreth and the other players agree to that is the important thing.

[Darth Tater]

If you turn Vardor and El'nela into background characters that are really just discussed and one other character (maybe Steward or the mad elf) into a minor character who isn't there much I think it'll be fine

[Lief Erikson]

El'nela will be being just discussed for a long time, until she is found by the good guys around the end. Then she'll be used about as much as the others, but I don't think that that will be a problem because it's for such a short time. Vardor will be in and out of the picture, but not in very often. He will possibly act through other characters or players. So as you can see, these two characters won't come into play much.

I don't know about toning down one of the main characters, though. All of them have pretty major roles. maybe I could use the mad elf somewhat less, but doing anything of the kind with those three is hard.

[The Black Lieutenant]

Personally, I think that the mad elf's character is well-defined enough that his having a major part in the story will not be confusing at all. So far we have four very distinctive elf-characters, and the possibility of confusing them is next to nil. Tal and Angar are both dark, sombre characters, but the former has been made so by circumstance and recent events, and the latter by nature and upbringing -- Tal, as the central character, is driven by love for his sister, whereas Angar's chief motive is monetary gain (and perhaps, the desire to do something noble for once in his life). Now Irid has entered the picture, and so we deepen our wolf motif which began with the name of our principle foe, "The Grim Wolf", was furthered by my introduction of an actual wolf into the story, and now is extended by this new elven character who was raised by wolves. The mad elf has had his reason destroyed by his experiences, and because none of us are typical elves, but each different in his or her own way from each other and the rest of the Eldar, the four of us make for an interesting concoction. I am eager to see how it all develops. I think we have a classic in the making here.

[Lief Erikson]

Thanks for the defense speech for the mad elf. Unfortunately, it's not him that they're having trouble about, it's the number as a whole. I'd thought that I'd made an agreement with Darth Tater, but he keeps changing his mind. It's hard to tell what is certain in this and what isn't. So I'm just going to continue playing for the moment.

[Irid alMenie]

you do that. It's just not complete without you ;)

[Lief Erikson]

The only editing I did in the above post is grammar oriented.

Thanks for the support, Irid :) .

[Irid alMenie]

always a pleasure :D

[Darth Tater]

Ok Lief, I've thought about this a lot, and I think i've got the final deal. I know it may seem unfair to you, but I don't wanna change Elbreth's rules too much.

You may have two major characters, ie they show up in maybe every other post, a little more maybe. One minor character, who hopefully gets left behind when the quest starts, or at least doesn't play a large role. Your villain should be mostly discussed, if you want him to show up briefly in a couple posts it's ok, but don't really make him a character. I know you dont' wanna return El'nela to Mathron, but that you'll just have to do. I'm sorry about this, but remember you could have spared us all this if you had created a story line that followed the rules in the first place

[Erewe]

Do characters have to be able to fit into the cannon? IE, can my character be half-elven, even though there were only three Elf/Human couples?

--Erewë

[Lief Erikson]

Sure, go ahead and take a half elven character. Nobody cared when a cat woman wanted to join the game, so I don't see a half elf disrupting anything.

[Erewe]

I just want to let everyone know that someone else should kill Grim Wolf. I'm gonna use Erewë in future RPG's, and if he were the one to kill Grim Wolf, then he'd choose Mortality and move back to the cabin. If he fails, then he'll choose Imortality and continue fighting against Morgoth/Sauron till he dies, which allows me to use him in future RPG's.

--Erewë

[Mathron]

Well, you don't need to worry about that - at the risk of giving away some secrets, I am pretty much planning on Grim Wolf not dying - so I think you will have plenty of reason to choose the path you wish.

[Mathron]

I thought she was back in the adventure, but she hasn't posted in a bit - and we really can't continue with a bunch of stuff until she does, as this will determine whether or not she is in the group leaving in the morning. :(

[Selwythe]

Without giving away too much, could you hint on the role of Morgoth. This being after the fall of Doriath, his power would be waxed and I don't see how a small party can go into Angband to kill someone and come out alive (or dead). Just a suggestion here but could we put the fall of Gondolin somewhere in the rpg so that it would fit in more with Middle-Earth history, because the deeds of Beleriand between the fall of Gondolin and the mustering of the Hosts of the West are not documented except for where the exiles of Doriath and Gondolin dwelt. Thus, I suggest this so that the end of the rpg could finish off with the Vanyar and Noldor arriving and end with the destroying of Angband and Morgoth. Grim Wolf need not be killed, for many of Morgoth's creatures escaped.

I propose this because I can't see how future actions can be carried out without disregarding Morgoth.

[Mathron]

I was, in fact, planning to have this ending with the arrival of the great army and defeat of Morgoth - as well, I don't intend for the party to actually go into Angband, but to try and track down and free the prisoners before they are delivered. Maybe for some to end up going further, but obviously getting to Angband and sneaking through it would be pretty tricky.

[Lief Erikson]

Let's kill everyone off in the end. (Evil grin) Malagar, Balrogs and dragons reside in Angband. Poking around in there gives ample opportunity for everyone to come to a dismal end.

A TRAGEDY RPG! :) Woohoo!

I don't think we need end up in Angband, but if it comes to that I'm sure we'll come up with something.

[Selwythe]

You needn't have the good guys win to have a tragedy ;) There can be people dead on the way, dead and come back.

Wait a minute, the fall of Morgoth and Angband will be a great tragedy, sniff.

[Mathron]

Hey guys, I am going to be moving into college soon, so might not be online for a few days. Just wanted to let you know, and see how things go without me. Hopefully people will be posting again. :)

[Irid al'Menie]

yeah, sure, i'll do the best I can

[Lief Erikson]

Naturally. It's all up to you to keep the thing going.

(Just kidding)

[Irid al'Menie]

oh, yeah, real funny

:D

[Tessar]

I think this RPG is alot better than the one thats in Rivindell.

[Mathron]

I haven't seen the Rivendell one, myself..


IS everyone still around? Posts suddenly came to an abrupt halt...

[Selwythe]

I'm waiting for what you would happen next. I thought I would get captured by the good guys but sigh ;) I currently have no idea what to do, plus my character is injured.

[Mathron]

~nod~
Right now I am basically waiting on Lief to post, or a few more people in the group, most of whom seem to have vanished. :(

[Irid al'Menie]

I got a mail from lief, saying he's trying to cut back on his postings, and he doesn't have much time, but he'll post again when you guys come to the land. I am stopping my postings here, so goodbye, i wrote a good post of how i go deeper in the woods. You don't have to wait for me...

[Mathron]

Sad to see you go. :( Everyone seems to be leaving...
Well, I will try to start things up again, then.

[Lief Erikson]

Irid, I was explaining why I wasn't posting much in The Return. Here I'll try to keep up on my posting more, although you were right I will certainly be cutting back. I'm fighting my way through a swamp of schoolwork and although it looks as if it's going to get done, I've still got a long way to go before 'reaching land' ;).

Anyway, I'll try to post here fairly often although sadly I can't promise two posts a day anymore.

[Irid al'Menie]

sorry for the misunderstanding, probably because i was reading your mail when i was sleeping more or less, so you'll forgive me, right?

[Lief Erikson]

:mad: Never! (Draws his sword) Prepare to meet your maker!






lol. No, sure, it's fine. I partly misunderstood to, because I'd heard that you'd backed out of this RPG, so I thought you probably weren't concerned with it anymore. So when you spoke of an RPG both of us were involved in, I automatically assumed you were thinking of The Return.

[Irid al'Menie]

If the Rpg i just quit is important enough (when i got a big enough role) i usually stay a little longer untill i know for sure everyone will get along without me :cool:

[Irid al'Menie]

I'm back! I couldn't stop!

[Mathron]

Welcome back! Glad we still have a few people here!

[Selwythe]

But I guess we have to hurry it along if we don't want every one to leave. I know I nearly did :) Maybe this battle plus a climatic one.

[Tessar]

trust me i wasent going to quit on my first RPG

my my isint this battel EXCITING? im having way to mutch fun with is thing.

and i have a question. am i doing ok? as said before, this is my first rpg.

[Irid al'Menie]

You're doing fine
but don't hurt yourself with your 'little toy' :D

[Tessar]

littel toy? LITTEL TOY?!?!?!?!!? YOU CALL THAT A LITTEL TOY?!?!?!?!!?? THAT "LITTEL TOY" IS SAVING YOUR BUTT LADY!!!!

lol jk about the last part.
P.S. by littel toy i assume you mean the dagger?

[Irid al'Menie]

yeah, i mean the dagger, didn't you read my post where i save you because you don't know how to use that dagger? ;)

[Tessar]

oh ya i forgot about that :o :rolleyes:

im gona go reread that post.

edited to say...... ok just reread it. awwwww did witel iwed get a boo-boo :p lol sorry i just could not resist :D

[Mathron]

Ok, to see whether everyone knows what is going on.
I thought, personally, that Folstan and Arcon were in a clearing, and had just confronted Shelina, Steward, and the Nrake - with a hint of Arcon's pet drake appearing above. I may have misread some things. I tried to have Grim approach, but not show himself, and prepare to ambush the dragon.

Now then, my characters and motivations: Grim Wolf is, right now, believing that he has been marked for elimination by the higher ups, and that his own men no longer work for him. He isn't positive, and likely won't fight against them, but isn't sure anymore of his loyalties. If there is a drake around, he will assume it is hunting him, and will try to take it out before it takes him down.

[Selwythe]

My version:

Arcon tracks Shelina and Grim, who have enlisted the help of Nrake to track...something (Orpholin, dunno?). Grim is delayed fighting Kur the eight-footer. Arcon goes after Shelina and Nrake. Nrake aims at Steward, smells Arcon, turns around and shoots him. Arcon is enraged.

Meanwhile, Folstan had escaped from the camp after faltering disgracefully to Erenfor and run smack into Steward. Nearly killed him but Arcon jumped out and pounced on him, thinking it was him who had attacked him. He lets Folstan go. *Shelina and Nrake suddenly pop out and have Arcon and Steward at their mercy.*

*rejected.

With that rejection, Arcon continues tracking after Shelina and Nrake. Shelina and Nrake hide in some...place (didn't understand what Lief meant by hiding behind the tent and hunting) and Arcon is near there. He senses Grim behind, also heading towards the camp.


Basically, I'm slowly turning Arcon good. His rebirth and confusion of his purposes (i.e. working for Vardor but hating his Orc servants and Shelina) are tools to do that.

[Lief Erikson]

(Grunts) Well I still think he'll end up getting done in by Irid.

Anyway, here's how things go from my perspective:

Shelina meets Vardor in the wood and he gives her the Nrake to help in the hunt. They go out, bump into Sandor and then press on some more.

Steward is sitting on a log, Folstan tries to kill him and ends up on the bad end of the deal. Arcon saves Steward from being stuck in the back and then plunges back into the trees. The Nrake and Shelina creep up behind Steward and the Nrake gets his knotted rope ready. Then, he suddenly gets a whiff of Arcon and wangs him instead. Then they both escape, glimpsed by Sandor. Sandor got into a fight with Kur because it was ordered to kill him by Sauron. Then as a natural reaction he ended up not trusting anyone.

The Nrake and Shelina were being hunted by Arcon, who got a bit off track in his hunt and they continued their pursuit of whatever, ;) into the camp, where by last post they remain. Now apparently, by Selwyth's last post, Arcon is still blundering around in the forest but now Sandor has found him.

Everyone sure keeps running into everyone else by chance, don't they? :)

[Tessar]

But where is steward that he and i are just sitting there?

[Selwythe]

Irid will get done in by Arcon then

:)

[Lief Erikson]

Anyone still confused? I think what really matters is where everyone is and what they're doing now. Mal is in jail, Sandor's just found Arcon and is worried about being attacked by drakes, Steward is in the camp sitting on a log talking to Tessar, Irid is . . . in the camp or in the woods Arcon hunting? I forget. Erenfor is in the camp too, as is Dain, Angar and Tal. Plus any other members of the company who I haven't mentioned. Ah, Arcon is slinking around in the forest, Shelina and the Nrake were last seen in the camp. I think that's just about everyone.

All clear?

[Mathron]

Sounds good to me.

[Lief Erikson]

Great to have you back, Mouth of Sauron! It's been a while, and it's going to be nice having you back in the action.

You know what, I think all three of us, me, Mathron and you all made a mistake. Our elves are all grim, and weren't elves supposed to be the most light hearted, joyful and wonderful creatures in Middle Earth? I thought they were, anyway. Just something to keep in mind for next adventure, this one it's way too late to make drastic changes like that.

But now about the end of this thing . . . This has turned out a pretty grim tale, I think. Should the grim tale have a joyful, happy ending, or one that fits how it has been so far? Any opinions?

Oh, one more question, I don't remember who's with Shelina, if anyone. Is she with Sandor again, or is she on her own?

[Mathron]

I believe Shelina was on her own.
As for the ending, I have a somewhat happy ending to conclude it all... but it will not directly relate, and grim things may occur before it. The events in Vardor's lair are mostly up to you.
As for the elves - recall that these are all grey elves, who have never been to the Blessed Isles, so are a bit more somber than their kin. Well, I'm not sure exactly on where Angor is from, but all have dark stories behind them. Tal was a normal happy elf till his village was raided and his sister stolen. I was planning his anger and bitterness to be, as an elf, his distinguishing trait - not expecting two other grim elves. :)

[Tessar]

Well Mathron,

you paved the way for them ;) :p

Thank goodness IM not a grim elf angel of death like yalls! :p

lol sorry I just had to say that.

[Irid al'Menie]

I'm not a grim elf either... I'm a weird elf (because i can actually talk to animals), but not grim...

[Lief Erikson]

Although come to think of it, it probably makes more sense that your character be able to talk to elves than for three out of character elves like ours to meet in one place. Radagast could talk to birds, couldn't he? Then it seems plausible to me that an elf could talk to wolves.

Aragorn, sure, I think you can join in. Trouble is, you can't be Aragorn's son. More like Aragorn's ancestor. This takes place during the Silmarillion, you see.

[Aragorn]

Oh, sorry bout that. Haven't read Silmarillion, I'm working on The Two Towers, then Return Of The King, then I'll read The Silmarillion. Okay, Aragorn's ancestor I am then! Just need to know the current setting. :)

[Mathron]

Well the current situation is that the main party is approaching a castle held by Vardor, a servant of Melkor (a powerful one). He holds a number of prisoner's captive, and the party seeks to free them (as one is Tal (my character)'s sister.)
So you can, I suppose, join in as another person trying to free slaves, or as one of the slaves themself. Be warned, though, that the adventure is very close to ending... so you may not wish to join in and get only a little RPGing in.

[Selwythe]

I am back. Strangely enough, I too was working on a Shakespeare play (R&J) and getting the house ready for my grandparents, and was too busy.

Shelina was captured by Arcon.

Looking at the thread now, I do not know at all how to slot my character in. And with the RPG ending...sigh, I am signing out.

[Mathron]

It will be a shame to see you go. If you want to stay, I am sure we can find a way to work you in, in some area. At the least, in any concluding posts, I am sure the eventual fate will be tied up for all.

Meanwhile, I haven't been working on any Shakespeare plays, just having to write papers on them. ~grin~

[Lief Erikson]

Well, friends, I have nothing actually particularly in mind for the defenses of Vardor's castle. So you're basically free to make up your own ideas and conquer them :). Just don't introduce the other Nightrider, please.

[Selwythe]

I returned because I was, yawn, bored.


Lief:
I have no concrete plans but Arcon's father is the Grim Wolf (where's he been?), fathered when Grim escaped the clutches of Angband over twenty years ago. Grim was recalled and betrayed the location of the secluded village. Therefore, Orpholin was a friend of Grim in the past, which I guess sheds some light into his mysterious intentions for the trip.

Anything you don't like, I can remove. I prefer to roleplay according to the situation instead of laying down some concrete plans.

[Mathron]

Grim Wolf is basically out of things for now. I have my plans for wrapping his end up when the adventure ends, but he probably won't interact much with the others until then - although, if you wish it, it wouldn't be too unfeasible for him to run into Orpholin and the others wandering in the woods. (As he has simply been wandering as well.)

[Selwythe]

No problem, you can do anything with Grim, even get him killed, though I would think it'd be more fitting for him to come face-to-face with Tal.

I assume the thing chasing him is a drake?

[Mathron]

Sandor is actually being chased by Sauron (who he thought Mal and Sandor were plotting together). Sauron had taken care of Mal, but not Sandor, yet. Suffice to say, it won't be a pleasant experience for Grim Wolf when Sauron catches up to him. It probably won't tie into the rest of the story any more, but will simply wrap up what happened to Grim Wolf.

[Lysander]

Hi,

I'm new here but I've just finished reading your game and I just wanted to say that I enjoyed it very much and think you've all done an excellent job in weaving a compelling tale.

I used to freeform roleplay on a dial-in BBS a few years ago and had a blast, and it's nice to see the tradition carried on.

I realize that this game is coming to a conclusion soon and the introduction of a new character would be awkward, but I would sure like to play with you guys, either in this game or a new one.

Again: well played! keep it going!

--Lysander

[Mathron]

Well I'm sure a game will eventually start back up after this one, so you'll be able to join in on that. :) And this one is pretty close to being done, so it shouldn't be too long.

[Lief Erikson]

Yes, Lysander, it'll be fun to RPG with you.

By the way, on this next one I don't think I'll be taking such a leading role in what happens. I realize that I have been doing that to a fairly large extent on some of the recent RPGs, and I have less time now for this anyway, (As some of you have probably noticed ;)) so I'll probably take a secondary character with a smaller, side plot, leaving the main one to others.

[Selwythe]

Welcome, Lynsander.

To Lief: I view Grim as a descendant of the houses of Men which betrayed the Eldar at the Nirnaeth. He escaped the clutches of Angband for a short period, helped by Orpholin, and fathered Gorthang (Arcon his adopted name) in some quiet village (Dor-Lomin?), before being recaptured. Gorthang grew up an outcast, rejected by all. He was infatuated with Shelina, but again he was hated. His heart finally grew cold when he was left in the clutches of the orcs by those he loved most.

[Lief Erikson]

That would make sense, and I'd agree to it, but there's only two problems that need reconciling. One: She was very young while at the village. I mean, she left while she was no older than a teenager. Two: Orpholin probably wouldn't want to introduce her to a fellow as dark and wild as Arcon the instant their reunion is over.

Arcon might have been spying on her after the village incident, or he might simply have gotten a crush on her while she was a child, but those really seem the two main options. She was captured fairly young and tortured brutally, until she was almost brainwashed and cringing to serve her masters in whatever way she could. After she was released he might have grown to like her, but there are no inferences to an earlier connection anywhere in the RPG, so it would make that somewhat strange. And I don't think she'd behave to him the way she did in the forest if that was the case.

So I'm not sure how their relationship could have developed, but I'm fine with it happening, so how? I suppose if you like I could make her have been older while at the village, but that certainly wasn't within my plan. Otherwise she probably would have had the means to escape early, and on her own, instead of having to be rescued by Orpholin in the way I was thinking.

[Mathron]

Hey all! Since the game looks like it is just about wrapped up, could everyone put up a final post or two to wrap up their characters and storylines, and then I'll try and tie it all together in an ending?
Basically I will have it ending with the coming of the Valar and the casting out of Melkor, so you may wish to keep that in mind. It probably won't happen until all have posted, so don't worry about giving reactions and such - just how they finish the story and their own goals.
To sum things up:
Vardor's fortress has just fallen, the slaves freed and enemies remaining presumably left. A few heroes (Irid, Tessar) were wounded, but healing. It is midnight in the game, or just about.
Hope this works for everyone, and no one had any major plot stuff left! (It looked like everyone was just about finished.) I'll probably wait maybe a week, or until all are finished posting, before wrapping it up and closing it.
How's that sound?

[Lief Erikson]

Fine by me. Just so long as you can wrap it up in hopefully one post, making it as long as you like. The grand finale, as it were.

I'm already finished, except for this deal with Arcon which needs sorting out.

[Lief Erikson]

Selwyth, I don't think you can kill Sandor that way. It would be fine, I think, except that this same Sandor is supposed to live for a few hundred years more! He comes into a future RPG called The Great Quest that me and Mathron already played. We've been developing back history for our characters, Malagar, Vardor and Sandor. That's why we shouldn't logically be seeing him die here. At least, Sandor is our wolfman, isn't he, Mathron?

[Irid al'Menie]

I'm done anyway... Consider that message of Flyer given ;)

[Mathron]

Well spotted, Lief.

Selwythe, I really have to ask you to change that post - the part involving Sandor, at least. I've noticed throughout the RPG a habit to try and add in plot developments for other characters - which can be fine, if not too extreme, but some of yours were pushing the line. After all, if someone already has a history for their character planned out, and you change it, that sortof leaves them high and dry. And you should never kill off another player's character - I was able to work in most of your plot twists for Sandor, but I had no intention of letting him die here, so if you could alter it, I would appreciate it.
After all, how would you have felt if, early on, when you were pleading that Arcon was going to return to good, and one of us instead posted that he completely fell to evil, and went off and got killed by the party?
I think the guideline you should try and follow in future RPGs is that it is fine to affect other characters - as long as you do not affect them in a permanent way (so you can wound someone, but not maim or kill them), and to try and avoid altering their past.
Anyway, it has been great having you in this RPG nonetheless, and I simply hope you'll try and follow this suggestion in the future.

Now then, all we have left is Tessar's final post, and I'll wrap it all up and close it. :)

[Selwythe]

LoL very sorry. It was 3am here when I posted and I got carried away, and actually forgot that Sandor wasn't my character. I really apologise. I have gone back and deleted out that part. Some humongous carelessness on my part, really sorry about that. I am well aware of some of the 'golden rules' of roleplaying and I did overstep the line that time.

[Mathron]

Well, its all done! Hope everyone enjoyed the ending, and enjoyed being or reading in the RPG! Thanks to everyone who contributed, and well done all around!

[Lief Erikson]

Great last post! So, shall we take a week or two's break, or should we prepare the next?

[Mathron]

I'd be fine with a break, as I am running a bunch of other things online and off, and could use a bit of a breather. Still, whenever people want to try and start things up is fine with me - I'll just be a bit more inactive at first.

[Tessar]

Well I'm sure no one wants ME to start up a new one. lol

but I am really looking fward to the next RPG with you guys.

most of the ones that are going right now arn't very enteresting, to me anyways, I'm not good myself but I always want perfection from everyone else :rolleyes: I'm sick.

oh well.

thanks yalls that was fun!

[Lief Erikson]

When we start the next one, what time period should it be? Or, shall we instead join into one of the most promising of these other RPGs that have recently risen?

[Mathron]

That may well be best - there are a ton of new RPGs that have started up, while in the past, there was usually no more than one at a time.

[Lief Erikson]

How do the rest of you feel? Tessar, Irid, Selwyth?

I can go either way, although I think my personal preference is to go with an already active one too.

[Irid al'Menie]

I'm not gonna join in another RPG. Maybe some time in the future when i have more time...

[Tessar]

Just me but I would rather join a new one that one of you starts.

thats my pref.

[Lief Erikson]

Well, I think it all depends on the number of players interested. Some might have time to keep up on more than one at once, but I think a lot of people already are spread pretty thin.

If it's only me, Mathron, Tessar and potentially Selwyth, I'm not interested in doing one of our own. But if we can get, say, four or five more people than that, than I'd be happy to have us strike out on our own path again. So, everyone agree we should send a new "all read" topic and ask?

[Arat-Falathion]

I would for sure join a new one :) everytime I'm too late, finding the games already started long ago.. so I did one of my own, but if u start a new one; count me in

[Tessar]

Ok, one of you had better wright it though.

[Selwythe]

I don't mind joining another RPG, and don't mind anything about it like time/scene/location, but I really want to see a lot of people in the RPG.

[Irid al'Menie]

well, as i've said in a mail to lief, i decided to join in a new one (if there's a new one made), but if it's in an existing one, i'm not in. (so if you want me in, you'll have to start a new one :D)

[Tessar]

START A NEW ONE! :D

[Lief Erikson]

For all readers, we're already discussing possibilities for this new RPG in a topic I made called: A New RPG (The old story ;)). Rather stupid title when looked at, but anyway, there's where we're discussing it. If any of you wants to join into debating the time period, or giving other ideas, as well as character info if you're interested in joining in, we can continue there.