how many of you care about lotr winning oscars?

[hectorberlioz]

so far the lotr films have six oscars in all, i deeply hope return of the king wins the best picture. i like musicals, but if another reaches a nomination...aghhhhhhhhhhhhh, i'll be upset not because i hate musicals, but because rotk didnt win. I liked chicago ( its a musical).
-hectorberlioz:o

[Sheeana]

Hmmm. Let me check deep within my soul...



Nope, don't care. :rolleyes:

[Elf Girl]

I second the profound and moving words of BoP.

[straight_face]

As long as the Lord of the Rings fans are entitled to their opinions about whether the movie deserved an award or not, it doesn't matter.

[Anglorfin]

I don't particularly care either. I've never watched any awards shows or anything like that.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Awards don't really matter much to me, for PJ's movies; Gollum is of course the exception, and I think he is eligible for a host of awards. :p

[Rosie Gamgee]

Of course I care!!! LOTR should win oscars! LOTR is the greatest thing since sliced bread (which isn't all that great anyway. Why not just rip the bread off in chunks and eat it with cheese and apples like an Alpine herdsman? Actually, I don't know what Alpine herdsman eat, but it seems to fit). Anyway, LOTR is the greatest thing since bread, period. Of course it deserves oscars.

Oscar is the funniest movie.

[Dreran the Green]

I don't really care that whether or not it wins awards (especially since I have a running theory that the Academy Awards is rigged:rolleyes: ) as long as it is given the respect and recognition it so justly deserves (but would deserve more if Jackson hadn't corrupted Faramir and killed off Glorfindel...ah, but I'm rambling now....oh well. Up with LOTR!:D )

[mithrand1r]

No, I do not care about awards for the movies. I only hope that the movies are well done and are good adaptations of JRRT LOTR.

[Silpion]

I don't really care if Lord of the Rings wins oscars or not. I always got the impression that the recipients don't always win because they should but for other reasons like star popularity or because "they put their time in".

[Aewionen]

I agree with Rosie Gamgee and DtG, LotR should win oscars. Many people didn't think that the story couldn't be made into a movie, but it was. I think that at least it should be recognized as one of the best.

[gimli7410]

i dont really care as long as I enjoy the movie

[Indril Anarion]

I care...I'm rooting for ROTK! It deserves best pictures! LOTR Rules!

[Lizra]

I don't care! Ha! What does it matter to me! :D But...the actors and others involved care, I guess. That's their problem though! Earn that $$$! :D (I mean really, these people make lots of money doing very fun stuff, part time..how lucky can you be!) Too bad teachers, policemen, factory workers, or waitresses (or my hardworking husband :rolleyes: ) don't get to dress up in swanky clothes and diamonds, for a night on the town, just because they "worked"! (farty noise! :p ;) ) I'll find something else to care about! ;)

[LutraMage]

A film not made in Hollywood win an Oscar? Are you joking? Ok, occasionally they allow a non-Hollywood film to win, but they were never going to allow LoTR's to win. This is one of the biggest films ever made, and PJ choose to make it outside Tinsel Town and, to rub salt into their wounds, he actually made it in New Zealand, a place with no 'movie history' - they were never going to forgive him for that. ;)

To answer the question, I don't care about the films winning Oscars.

[durin's bane]

I don't care all that much, but I'd like to see it win over something like The Hulk.

[Spock]

The craftsmanship, artistry and overwhelming dedication in bringing this literary masterpiece to the screen isn't enough for the hollywood sycophants. Peter Jackson isn't P.C. and beautiful so they refuse to honor him.
We should.

[Nazgul King Squirrel]

Since the movies are not really about tLotR why would I care?

[LutraMage]

Originally posted by Nazgul King Squirrel
Since the movies are not really about tLotR why would I care? If you don't care about the movies, why bother to post a thread on the Movie Forum?:p

[Spock]

Indeed.
It's just that there are movies out there that are nothing but a waste of money and time that get awards when something as wonderous and involved as our favorite theme does not.

[Nazgul King Squirrel]

Originally posted by LutraMage
If you don't care about the movies, why bother to post a thread on the Movie Forum?:p

Now, LutraMage you should read what one is saying first, before complaining.
I said I don’t care if they win the Oscars, because they are not LotR. Not the same thing you are saying, is it? ;)

[LutraMage]

Originally posted by Nazgul King Squirrel
Now, LutraMage you should read what one is saying first, before complaining.
I said I don’t care if they win the Oscars, because they are not LotR. Not the same thing you are saying, is it? ;) I'm a little confused. :confused:

Your first quote was "Since the movies are not really about tLotR why would I care?"So I thought you were saying you don't care if the LotR's movies don't win the Oscars, because they are not the 'real' LotR (ie the books). If I got that wrong I'm sorry NKS :o ;)

However, if I did get it wrong, what did you mean exactly?:confused:;)

[Nazgul King Squirrel]

Are they entertaining movies? Yes, they are reasonable sword & sorcery movies and I enjoyed them.

Are they truly LotR? No, they are inspired in tLotR but are not LotR.

Are they classics that I would feel it as an injustice if they don’t win the Oscars? No. But then, I don’t enjoy only Oscar material.

[Spock]

"quote"
Are they truly LotR? No, they are inspired in tLotR but are not LotR

......so the books are LOTR but nothing else is? or do you think other movies are real and LOTR, TTT,ROTK are fantasy?........
...................."reality, what a concept".........

[Nazgul King Squirrel]

No, calling something LotR doesn’t makes it LotR.

If they don’t do the same thing they do in the book, if they don’t speak the same lines they do in the book, if their personality is not the same of those in the book, they cannot be the same, can they? Calling them by the same names doesn’t make them the same. Logic, Mr. Spock, logic.

[Spock]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nazgul King Squirrel
[B]No, calling something LotR doesn’t makes it LotR.

If they don’t do the same thing they do in the book, if they don’t speak the same lines they do in the book, if their personality is not the same of those in the book, they cannot be the same, can they? Calling them by the same names doesn’t make them the same. Logic, Mr. Spock, logic.
I completely agree and understand. However, I've yet to see a movie that was that perfect. Some are closer than others to the book version but none are exact. By your definition no movie is worth it?[ [URL=http://www.bellaonline.com/birding/photos/squi/squirrel.jpg[/IMG]

[Hasty Ent]

I haven't seen TTT (tho' I'll probably rent the extended edition DVD once it's out), but I did see FoTR. Could NOT care less if any of the LoTR movies win, but I have to say I'm surprised FoTR didn't win. The Oscars, after all, are not about quality or artistic vision. They are about box office and popular appeal.

As proof, here are three miscarriages of justice (there are many more, believe me):

2000 Best Actress: Julia Roberts for Erin Brockovich beat out Ellen Burstyn in Requiem for a Dream
1976 Best Picture: Rocky beat Taxi Driver
1964 Best Picture: My Fair Lady won instead of Dr Strangelove

we curse the Academy, we do!:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Nazgul King Squirrel]

Originally posted by Spock

I completely agree and understand. However, I've yet to see a movie that was that perfect. Some are closer than others to the book version but none are exact. By your definition no movie is worth it? [URL=http://www.bellaonline.com/birding/photos/squi/squirrel.jpg[/IMG]



Some directors want to make their movies as close of the original as they can. Sometimes we, the viewers, see their movies and see it as truly a version of the book, different, but close enough. Sometimes being close to the book is good, sometimes is not.
Yet, sometimes the director don’t want to ”just” make the movie version of the book, and wants to tell a story, his story, based on the book. A valid option, and that is what I believe PJ did.

By the way, nice squirrel pic. :)

[gdl96]

I haven't been in this forum in a while...and now i see why. Too many damn purists.

Anyway, I do think the movie deserves to win many Oscars next year.

[Radagast The Brown]

I don't care, no... well, I do want them to win, but I won't be sad if they won't win.

[The Dunadan]

i'm going to be sooo angry if ROTK doesn't win best picture, we already got robbed cause FOTR didn't win, a beautiful mind did. i know ROTK will be a nomination, and better win!

[Lalaith]

Of course I want LotR to win oscars but if not ... I won't die.

[Spock]

Let's hope you're right and you don't die if TTT doesn't win.

As for your Cayman experience, sounds like it was a positive growth experience. Having been to those islands several times I find them delightful.

[IronParrot]

I, for one, care about the movies winning Oscars.

Nobody's pretending that the Oscars are some kind of authority on what's good, bad and ugly on the movie scene in a given year. Nobody will ever agree with every single one of their choices (nor will they disagree with all of them), and everybody can point to a few years when the upsets were outrageous (Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan? A Beautiful Mind over both Moulin Rouge! and The Fellowship of the Ring?).

But at the same time, nobody can deny that the Oscars have tremendous influence, and are important to the film industry in the same way box office tallies are.

Simply put: if a risky, high-quality fantasy film wins a whole smackload of Oscars, the big production companies will be more likely to finance similarly huge fantasy projects, or future films by the same director. George Lucas got the money to do Star Wars because American Graffiti was such a hit with moviegoers and critics alike. It's a chain reaction: movie wins Oscars, movie makes more money, studios begin to wonder what that movie did right and start financing similar projects. The result: more good movies.

Awards will also mean continued prestige for the films, though the impact is much bigger on smaller films than these big ones. There are many classic films I would never have stumbled upon had they not been rewarded with as many awards as they did in order to pique my interest. I was first introduced to Gone With The Wind because I was interested in how any film could possibly top The Wizard of Oz in awards in 1939. I heard of Cabaret because it was the film that very nearly beat The Godfather. This is how we remember movies like An American in Paris. More recently, this is how so many people were introduced to the sensation that was Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - because it got a whopping ten nominations, a record for a foreign-language film.

Last but not least, here's something specific to LOTR: if it nabs up a Best Picture, it will break the sci-fi/fantasy curse that put Annie Hall over Star Wars, Chariots of Fire over Raiders of the Lost Ark, Gandhi over E.T.. Nobody can deny that genre films - good genre films - have been marginalized. LOTR is the perfect film to break that trend, as well as the misconception that films like it are "popcorn movies" by default, when these few special ones are in fact far greater.

Best of all: if the film wins Oscars, more people will read the book. Cases in point: I otherwise would never have read Mario Puzo's The Godfather or Margaret Mitchell's Gone With The Wind.

On the other hand, LOTR could enter the pantheon of legendary films that didn't win (and arguably already has). Citizen Kane, Singin' in the Rain, 2001: A Space Odyssey - the list goes on.

[Agalayth]

Well said, IronParrot! I do hope they win the awards, and if they don't I do admit that I'll be rather disappointed. If they don't, it's not the end of the world. But the more awards, the more attention the movie gets. As the last movie in the trilogy, I truly hope that the Return of the King gets some awards.

[Lizra]

Annie Hall! Ugh! Don't remind me! :rolleyes: :D

[wahine]

I think the movie itself is unworthy, but the soundtrack was truly marvelous. :D

Go Howard!

[Lalaith]

Originally posted by IronParrot
Nobody's pretending that the Oscars are some kind of authority on what's good, bad and ugly on the movie scene in a given year. Nobody will ever agree with every single one of their choices (nor will they disagree with all of them), and everybody can point to a few years when the upsets were outrageous (Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan? A Beautiful Mind over both Moulin Rouge! and The Fellowship of the Ring?).


Amen.

[hectorberlioz]

I can say this. The A.M.P.A.S. only(mostly) picks are biographical films, theres nothing wrong with that, but if rotk doesnt win there will be! I was sad for the losses of some of my favs though i.e...ghandi over e.t., annie hall over starwars,chariots of fire over raidersof the lost ark, terms of endearment over the mission, and so on....

p.s: i see my thread is in favor?

[hectorberlioz]

Hi.

[Elf Girl]

Kindly do not spam to bring your thread to the top.

[hectorberlioz]

sorry. wont do it anymore

[SilverFairy]

I don't truly care about whether LotR wins or not, but the night of the Oscars, I'm sittin' there on my couch rooting for it! It's fun to get hyped up for it! It doesn't matter to me about 5 mins after it's over, though. Just something to excite over!

[hectorberlioz]

unlike me , i'll drag over the reasons the choice for best pic was bad for ages...