The Hobbit Movie

[Lalaith_Elf]

i can't believe they might be making it!!!!! now someone please correct me if they're not before.... well before something!!!

even if it's not being made, any ideas about which actors to play which parts??????

of course ian mckellen would have to return as gandalf, and ian holm would have to be bilbo......

[Firekitten2006]

I thought PJ said somewhere he didnt plan on doing the Hobbit? Maybe I'm thinking of the Silmirillion. (sp?)

[Lalaith_Elf]

i think he said that he wanted to make it, if only somebody would back him up...... ie. newline

[Elfhelm]

You must be refering to this, which is just a fantasy...

If fans can't get enough of the old wizard, neither can McKellen, who refuses to accept that the part ends with the trilogy's final installment. He has a grand idea for the prequel: "I want to play Gandalf again, in The Hobbit. I've asked Peter Jackson if he'll produce the prequel as a huge, yearlong television series. All those different strands to the story seem perfect for TV, and we'd do every scene of it. It could be marvelous."

http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/article/0,13005,901030310-427995,00.html

[Dreran the Green]

If McKellen is going to be Gandalf and Ian Holm Bilbo, I'd like to see them make the Hobbit. It would be worth it just to see the awesome part where Gandalf is about to jump off the tree and Gwaihir saves him! Yay! Gandalf lives!

[Elfhelm]

Yeah, too bad the Lord of the Eagles wasn't in TTT (carrying Gandalf to Lothlorien), then he could be in all 4 films!

[Fion]

It was McKellens idea to make the Hobbit movie, and he asked PJ if he would direct it, because it was so fun playing Gandalf, he wented to do it agien. ;)


Fion

[Lalaith_Elf]

i wanna be in that movie.... if they make it....

[gimli7410]

i cant imagine where they would get that many people they need to be dwarves. john rhys davies said it was horrible with all that make up

[Dreran the Green]

Originally posted by Lalaith_Elf
i wanna be in that movie.... if they make it....

I have this 'secret' plot to escape to New Zealand somehow, show up on Peter Jackson's doorstep, and beg him to let me be in the extended version of ROTK. He'll be so scared he'll have no choice but to say yes! Mwahahaha...:D

[Bombadillo]

I'm just dying to see the Battle of Five Armies. But If any elves of Lorien show up I'm killing PJ.

[Lalaith_Elf]

Originally posted by Dreran the Green
I have this 'secret' plot to escape to New Zealand somehow, show up on Peter Jackson's doorstep, and beg him to let me be in the extended version of ROTK. He'll be so scared he'll have no choice but to say yes! Mwahahaha...:D

tehehehe sound like a good plan.... can i join you.... i'm the one who always has evil plans here.....
MWHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Lalaith]

PJ doesn't want to do it in the nearer future. He wants to do King Kong first.

[Dreran the Green]

Originally posted by Lalaith_Elf
tehehehe sound like a good plan.... can i join you.... i'm the one who always has evil plans here.....
MWHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yay, evil laughter! Maybe we can get enough people and form an army! We can make Peter Jackson let us be one of the armies in the battle! Ahahahaha!:D

[Lalaith_Elf]

MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........... i like you..... your almost as evil as me..... go me.... wohoooooo.... come join the penguins Dreran.... become one with the evil and we shall form that army.... yes yes my precious.... we shall.....

[Dreran the Green]

OK:D

[Lalaith_Elf]

tehehehehe.... and we'll form a army against my mother.... she's giving me looks cos she's watching FoTR and i keep on speaking along to it......... MWHAHAHAHAHA:D

[Dreran the Green]

Heeheeheehee....

When your mother gets to the part on the Bridge of Khazad Dum, Give Gandalf a shout for me:D

[Lalaith_Elf]

will do.... if she hasn't taken the dvd off me for watching it too much LOL
and it's not my fault that i was inclined to get the script off the internet:D

[Dreran the Green]

Hehhehheh...I have the scripts to both movies:D One day when we were really hyper my sister and I split the parts in FotR and recorded our audio version. You can hear us punching each other in the background:D

[Lalaith_Elf]

LOL sound like fun........ i'm in the middle of writing a scrip for 'Lady of the Rings'....... my version of LOTR's- the mistakes you never saw....... it's hillarious, and we're filming it after doing our GCSE's.... i've changed the names of course.... don't wanna get done for copywrite:p

[Dreran the Green]

Cool!! Post some of the script on entmoot or something!
I wrote a take-off on FotR, and my friends and I would film it but we just don't have enough actors or anything. And theres the Balrog. We toyed with the idea of a flaming garbage bag but no one would want to be in it when we set it on fire...I wouldn't mind, but I wanted to play Gandalf so....yeah.:D

..........And we're busy with some other movies we're going to film first, so it looks like its not going to get off the ground. Lots of luck with yours!!!!!:D

[Lalaith_Elf]

some of the funny bits is in the actions. One of my best friends is playing two characters: Grandalf the Gay (which he is soooo suited too) and Elronald. so he's going to dash back and forth on screen and have a conversation with himself for the council scene.... while trying to change his costume.... all on screne...... it's going to be sooooo funny!!!!!!!:D

[Dreran the Green]

Awesome!! That's going to be so funny when its done!

When I get into highschool next year I'll get to make a talkshow for my TV production class. I'm going to do one about LotR, I'm hoping to dress up one of my friends with a beard and pass her off as Gandalf:D

.......She doesn't really look like Gandalf but I think she's hyper enough to do a really good job of it;)

[Lalaith_Elf]

tehehehehe....... i go up into 6th form next year so i only have four subjects.... WOHOOOO....

i'm playing Legless....... which again is going to be funny cos i'll be filming it... plus i'm female.... plus i have brown hair..... tehehehehe

[Dreran the Green]

Only 4 subjects?!! Lucky!!! I have a bunch of subjects that I don't even want, I'm just taking them next year so I can have a bunch of free time as a sophomore. Spanish and Western Civ. Blech. Whose idea was it that you have to take a foreign language???

Oh well. You are going to have such a great time filming your movie. I love acting and directing and scriptwriting and all of that stuff. I'm going to try and be a director later in life.
What are you going to do for your balrog, anyway? Or did you just write that out of the script or what? In my script Gandalf defeats the Balrog, but then he falls while trying to strangle Jack Nicholson.:D Don't ask;)

[Lalaith_Elf]

LOL, four subjects is ALOT. at the moment i'm studying for my GCSE's which are exams over her in england. next year i have four, three for a-levels and one as level.... very important and VERY hard work!!!!!!!!! i've chosen mostly essay ones as well.... stupid me!!!!!! english lit and english lang and classical civialisations.... and then a fun but still hard one... epa... or expressive arts ie. acting and such....

for my balrog.... oh balrok... um i dunno.... i might do him with computer graphics.... or i might just film my cat sleeping in her basket... NO fire involved.... it'll be funny grandalf fighting against an enlarged sleeping cat:D

[Dreran the Green]

Yes! That would be hilarious!! Oh bugger, I have to get off the moot now:( My family is going to a cool flea market where you can buy all the swords from LotR. Too bad they don't sell Narya too, It'd probably be a lot cheaper than the one I'm saving up for. Oh well, bye everybody!:) :cool:

[Lalaith_Elf]

LOL, i'm saving up for my own sword........ i already have one but it's rubbish....... i'm gonna get one custom made and everything:D

cu my evil little minnion....... feel free to PM or e-mail:D

[anarion]

I was recently duped into believing that a bogus trailer was the trailer for the hobbit movie, so I though it was already made and just being kept a secret until after trk release.
But since it is not already made, and in the Dialogues included in the fellowship boxed set, pj stated that the sets were all torn down.
I would think if he had planned to do a hobbit movie he would have already made it, or would have atleast left the hobbiton set intact.
I think our best hope now is for someone like the sci-fi channel to buy the rights, and to make a mini series out of it, anyway I hope so that is.
Anarion

[Pip]

This is something that I found in "Life Story Movie Magazine" that you guys might be interested in. I don't know if it's an indication of anything but Peter Jackson said in it, "Part of me would love to have somebody elses make The Hobbit, so I could watch it as an audience member. On the other hand it would feel odd. Nobody has asked me to do it but if they did, I would give it serious consideration."

[Lollypopgurl]

Set aside the fear of complete un-Tolkienization of the Hobbit, I would like to see it as a movie.

[barrelrider110]

Hello all,
First post in a looooooooooong time.

Anyway, I was reading an insert in the entertainment section of my local gazette and they did a brief review of RoTK. The reviewer was enthusiastic, obviously a fan, and he/she ends with this nugget:

PJ has agreed to do the Hobbit, "prequel to the Lord of the Rings Trilogy."

[thranduil]

Originally posted by gimli7410
i cant imagine where they would get that many people they need to be dwarves. john rhys davies said it was horrible with all that make up

There have to be millions of people who would love be associated somehow to one of the biggest movies of all time. I would be a dwarf!

[Naugrim]

Ian McKellen should indeed play Gandalf in a Hobbit movie, but I think Ian Holm would be too old to play Bilbo. They had to use tape to smoothen out his wrinkles in the FotR prologue. Hugo Weaving can still play Elrond, of course, and perhaps a we could have cameo by Orlando Bloom as Legolas in Thranduil's court and at the Battle of the Five Armies.

[b.banner]

Ian McKellen should indeed play Gandalf in a Hobbit movie, but I think Ian Holm would be too old to play Bilbo. They had to use tape to smoothen out his wrinkles in the FotR prologue. Hugo Weaving can still play Elrond, of course, and perhaps a we could have cameo by Orlando Bloom as Legolas in Thranduil's court and at the Battle of the Five Armies. that is what i think too:D .

[Melko Belcha]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=638&ncid=638&e=3&u=/nm/20031208/en_nm/arts_rings_director_dc_4

While many of the lead "Rings" characters do not appear in "The Hobbit" story, the wizard Gandalf, played by Ian McKellen, and Gollum, the cave dweller corrupted by the powerful ring, do and should make a comeback. Arwen, the elf princess played by Liv Tyler , could also feature again, Jackson said.

Arwen, the elf princess played by Liv Tyler , could also feature again, Jackson said. That is why PJ should not be allowed to do the Hobbit.

[Lalaith_Elf]

wow....... i ain't been on here for AGES!!!! nice to know my thread is still going.....

the news goin' round is that PJ is wanting to do it after he does 'king kong' - maybe after 2006-ish.

i forgot wot else i was goin' to say.....:confused:

[brownjenkins]

the hobbit sounds great... but another king kong... nooo!!

[Lalaith_Elf]

tehehe.... i've just had a image of king kong and the hobbit mixed into one movie!!!!!!!

now thats scary!!!!:eek:

;)

[Bombadillo]

I could see it if he seriously messed up Beorn. :)

I still can't wait to see the Battle of Five Armies. For this one, I hope PJ does make so that the majority of the movie contains the battle. Yes!

[Lalaith_Elf]

yeah... the battle of the five armies would be good to see... as well as mirkwood.... i always liked that place

if he does, i think he should use the cast that he used for the LotR movies... so he should bring back ian holm as bilbo etc. i hate it when films change their cast half way through... if it's for a triliogy or something... it just ruins it, even if the actors were rubbish in the first place!

[Twista]

Well they better hurry up. Old Ian Holm is getting on a bit lol.

[Lalaith_Elf]

yeah but they did a good job making him look young in the fellowship. its the movies. they can almost do everything now. lol. especially with selotape. lol.

[Tuor of Gondolin]

It does seem questionable to have Ian Holm as Bilbo, but they'd put much more effort and research into it in The Hobbit, and remember, Bilbo was middle-aged, not a young hobbit, in The Hobbit, so, if done immediately after PJ finishes King Kong, it could be possible to cast him.

Oh, and they could have a great comic conclusion with Bilbo and Gandalf coming back to see Bilbo's stuff being sold off, especially his run-in with the S-B's.:)

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by Tuor of Gondolin
It does seem questionable to have Ian Holm as Bilbo, but they'd put much more effort and research nto it in The Hobbit, and remember, Bilbo was middle-aged, not a young hobbit, in The Hobbit, so, if done immediately after PJ finishes King Kong, it could be possible to cast him.

Oh, and they could have a great comic conclusion with Bilbo and Gandalf coming back to see Bilbo's stuff being sold off, especially his run-in with the S-B's.:)

In the Hobbit Bilbo looks the same as he did in LotR. Gandalf specifically states that he looks as if hasn't aged a day since he last saw him some 60 years prior. So it is very reasonable that Bilbo would look the same as he did in the Fellowship. Even when they showed him in the prologue of finding the ring, he looked maybe a few years younger than he did later on in the Fellowship, so it was obvious to me that the issue of Ian Holm's age really shouldn't be a concern at all, but I think they do need to cast him if they end of making this film...

[Lalaith_Elf]

Well I've been trying to figure something out for the past couple of months. A guy that I sort of dated at the start of last year, went to a drama collage down in London and well we talked alot about LotR and The Hobbit. And he mentioned one day, when I had been talking about the rumours that I had heard about The Hobbit Movie, that he was going to an important audition very soon. Now he couldn't tell me what for. But he hinted at either Star Wars or The Hobbit. A while later he told me that soon he was leaving London for somewhere near Australia. Meaning that it still could be either Star Wars or The Hobbit !!!:eek:
Unfortunatly we lost contact and I have no idea where he is or what he's doing.
But it could fit. I would imagine that if there was auditions being held for The Hobbit, they may be kept in secret considering the populatity of the recent LotR's movies.
Just a thought to bear in mind.:)

[DaughterofKings]

Well, it looks like The Hobbit movie is coming to town!
And Peter Jackson is nowhere to be found!

http://www.thehobbitfilm.com/

[Lady Ravyn]

lol, i know, i saw that; it was an april fools joke! i get the newsletter from TORN, and they had me going for about 30 seconds, until i read the next newsletter, where they revealed the joke :rolleyes:
however, if you click on the link you posted, there's a campaign going to send petitions to New Line to let them know that we all want a Hobbit movie (well, most of us, anyhow ;) )
you can start sending letters tomorrow (april 5), and i don't know about anyone else, but i'm going to put in my 2 cents :D

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

if he [PJ] does make the hobbit,
i plan on ambushing him somewhere,
so that a) he keeps it to the book a
bit better and b) he casts me as either
the Goblin King, or the Voice of Smaug

although i would be equally good as a
dwarf as i am fairly short, and can do
a very good scots accent, being part irish
anyway

[kiddstodd]

i have a cast i think would be good
Gandalf - Ian Mckelen
Bilbo- Ian Holm
Thorin- the guy how plays dumbledor in harry Potter #3
Thranduil- Orlando Bloom
Elrond- the guy who played him in lotr
Gloin- John Reyes-Davies

and thats all i can think of

[Elanor the Fair]

Originally posted by kiddstodd
i have a cast i think would be good
Gandalf - Ian Mckelen
Bilbo- Ian Holm
Thorin- the guy how plays dumbledor in harry Potter #3
Thranduil- Orlando Bloom
Elrond- the guy who played him in lotr
Gloin- John Reyes-Davies

and thats all i can think of

That could be a little tricky!! It would require some fast costume changes and clever photography!! :D However, I'm sure Ian McKellen would be up to the task!! :D

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by kiddstodd
....
Elrond- the guy who played him in lotr
....

Hugo Weaving

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds15030.html


The making of the film The Hobbit is one step closer. It may not be too long from now that it will begin production! I hope Peter Jackson and company set out to do the direction and production. I would hope to see Sir Ian McKellan return as Gandalf the Grey, Ian Holm as Young Bilbo, Hugo Weaving as Lord Elrond. I was also thinking that since Gimli's father sets out with the company of the Hobbit, perhaps Mr. John Rhys-Davies can(in different attire and makeup) portrey Gloin! I am pretty sure that at the Coronation of Aragorn in The Return of the King we see a breif image of Lord Thranduil of Mirkwood, perhaps the same man will play Thranduil in the Hobbit as well.(and perhaps we will get a cameo apperance of Legolas of the woodland realm!?) Finally I can't wait to see this film come out, the Balrog looked awsome in The Lord of the Rings, Smaug will look incredible no doubt!

[Pytt]

oh yes! i would love to see that film! ian mckellan as gandalf of course, but i think that ian holm is too old to play bilbo, sad to say.
but PJ is producing 'king kong' isn't he? i don't think the film is out in cinemas before 2008-2010. but i rather wait some years instead of a film which really sucks.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

oh yes! i would love to see that film! ian mckellan as gandalf of course, but i think that ian holm is too old to play bilbo, sad to say.
but PJ is producing 'king kong' isn't he? i don't think the film is out in cinemas before 2008-2010. but i rather wait some years instead of a film which really sucks.


Ian Holm may be too old for young Bilbo, but perhaps makeup and wardrobe could help that. If not who would be a good replacement? I think that someone similar to Billy Boyd. Boyd's Pippen I thought would look similar(not exactlly) to young Bilbo. Of course I don't think they should use Boyd. Also Peter Jacksons film King Kong is set to release in 2005. So Filming could begin as soon as late '05 for The Hobbit, if the rights change to NewLine Cinema. Filming for a movie like The Hobbit would not take as long as the three part Lord of the Rings and so could possibly be out as soon as late 2006, perhaps for another Holiday big shot! 2008-2010 is a little off as I see it, but it all really depends on the rights being sold.


Interesting little side note, Andy Serkis(Gollum/Smeagol) will be playing the parts of King Kong and Lumpy the Cook.

[Pytt]

i didn't now how far they had come with 'king kong', but then it change a little bit.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Ian McKellan however is set to film "Never Was" wich is set to release in 2005. Besides that it looks like he is open for a filming of The Hobbit. Perhaps this film, King Kong, and the rights issue will all be resolved at the same time and lead to a perfect alignment of Hobbit production!

[Pytt]

that would be nice! when may we expect it in cinemas, then?

[The Nameless One]

I have a question...Does anyone know if Radagast accompanys Gandalf and Saruman when they went to deal with the "Necromancer" in Dol Guldur during the Hobbit? If he was, then someone can play the part of Radagast the Brown in the movie version. It would be cool to see that.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

I don't think he did since he is never mentioned as being a part of the White Council. Not to mention he was never mentioned in the book and so I don't see why he would be included in the film. Lastly the book, and hopefully the film, followed the journy of the 13 dwarves and Bilbo, not Gandalf. SO I don't see why it would even show his involvement in Dol-Guldur.

[The Nameless One]

Thanks. Yeah I just thought it would be a good side journey to show on screen. I was mostly going by Tolkiens timeline and not strictly the book...I was trying to see how many things the director could do with this part in the timeline because there are other events that might be happening at the same time as the dwarves journey that are connected in some way to the characters. It wouldnt be steping out of Tolkien's histories and writings thats for sure. I think if I was watching the movie version of the hobbit, I would want to see what happens in southern Mirkwood because it would be really lame for gandalf to say he has business south and then show nothing.In the books its not as important to tell the readers, but in terms of film, most people watching would wonder why such a scene would be left out and just figure that they had to scrap it for time constraints. Besides, directors love to branch out and be creative. Plus it would be cool to see Christopher Lee play Saruman again and to see him before he revealed his evil tendencies :D

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Perhaps a scean like that would be okay but I still am pretty sure Radagast was not involved in the... Seige? of Dul-Guldur. I think perhaps it was elves of Elrond and Galadriel as lead by Gandalf and Saruman.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Well it was the White Council not just the Istari.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

The white council of Elrond, Galadriel, Gandalf, and Saruman, I don't remember Radagast being a part of the white council. I think perhaps he aided them considering he lived close to Dul Guldur, but I don't think he actually entered the tower or faught anyone...

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

It ddn't say anthing about the siege all the detail we got is in CoE and when Bilbo briefly overhears Gandalf talking to Elrond.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Who else was in the white council though(too lazy to go 2 meters and get book) Was radagast a part of it because im not sure?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Yeah I think he was. It was Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, (The two blue Istari?), Celeborn, Galadriel (who summond (sp.) it) and Elrond. (I think!)

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

The Blue wizards were not a prt of the white counsil because they were lost before it was ever formed. and i guessi gotta look in the UT to see who exactlly was in the White Council.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

I think it says in UT that they may have been in the White Council and it doesn't say that they were lost just there is no records of them.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Yeah I remember reading it in UT, and thats what i meant, not lost persay, just lost to records.

[The Nameless One]

Well it looks like MGM is going to be up for grabs pretty soon(the company with the rights to the Hobbit).The highest price Ive heard so far is 5 billion to Sony. But Time Warner(owners of New Line) is offering a much higher price for MGM. So most likely we get to see the Hobbit in Im thinking 3 or 4 years....I hope. Peter said he was up for filming the Hobbit after King Kong so hopefully New Line gets the rights before King Kong comes out next Christmas(since negotiations take so long).

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Well even if Time Warner doesn't get the right PJ could still come back to direct the film for a new production company. I do prefer it to be New Line though. I wonder what is really being discussed in hollywood though? With the incredible success of Lord of the Rings there must be talk of Silmarillion stories, Hobbit!? I'd love to see the stories of the sil. on film, like Beren and Luthien. Awsome to see Morgoth!

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

I think the Sil would be harder to do as a movie as it has mini tales. Mabe that would be better as a TV program.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

I don't think small screen would be good enough for such an important book. Silmarillion was Tolkiens most loved work. I think that several full length movies would be better. Not one full 20 hour movie about the entire book. For example, Comming to a theate this fall, from writer J.R.R. Tolkien, and acadamy award winning dirrector peter jackson comes, a story of love, intregue, and pure eviiiiiiiiil! Beren & Luthien: With a Vengance! This film is not yet rated. Haha. Anyhow. Several movies all about a different chapter or relateing chapters.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Like a cinema sleep over!

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Well Peter Jackson could be set for life to direct hobbit, and several Silmarillion Storied films....that'd be some nice job security.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

If he did the Sil he wouldn't be able to do anything else for years.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Thats my point nice job security, years and years of the same film! He would be set for life with the cash advances he would get! He is already made plenty off of Lord of the Rings! Im sure if something like this happened he would not take all of the films im just sayin...

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

If he did that perhaps he could get carried away and do UT

[The Nameless One]

Yeah that would be awesome to see the story of Beren and Luthian. A tough one to do though would be Turin Turumbar. Its just sooooo tragic and depressing. But Beren and Luthian has a happy ending so it wouldnt be as bad I think;people wouldnt leave the theatre in a down mood.

[Elessar the Elfstone]

In the Hobbit Bilbo looks the same as he did in LotR. Gandalf specifically states that he looks as if hasn't aged a day since he last saw him some 60 years prior. So it is very reasonable that Bilbo would look the same as he did in the Fellowship. Even when they showed him in the prologue of finding the ring, he looked maybe a few years younger than he did later on in the Fellowship, so it was obvious to me that the issue of Ian Holm's age really shouldn't be a concern at all, but I think they do need to cast him if they end of making this film...

But according to the book 60 years ago wasn't the last time he saw bilbo! he supposedly popped in when he was near the shire to say hi

[Elessar the Elfstone]

I read somewhere (can't remember where!) that tolkien wrote the simarillion as Middle earth's bible so itwould be hard for someone to turn it into a film unless they only concentraited on one accpect eg beren and luthiun

If anyone thinks I'm speaking rubbish Just say I don't mind Lol :)

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

No I agree
Yeah that would be awesome to see the story of Beren and Luthian. A tough one to do though would be Turin Turumbar. Its just sooooo tragic and depressing. But Beren and Luthian has a happy ending so it wouldnt be as bad I think;people wouldnt leave the theatre in a down mood.
But people would think that Beren and Luthien had a sad ending because they die.

[The Nameless One]

But don't they live out there lives in the far south regions of Ossiriand as mortals? Beren would have stayed in the halls of Mandos if not for Luthian traveling to valinor in spirit form to bring him back to middle earth(I think it was spirit form). She gave up her imortality to live as a mortal with him and die a mortal death together with Beren. To me that is a happy ending because they are together till death and are never bothered again untill years later when they are old and grey.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Men do not go to the Halls of Mandos. Beren was the only one to ever see where men go after death before returning to ME but he never spoke of it to anyone.

[thranduil]

anyway. i love this movie. alot better than bakshi garbage.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

What movie? It hasn't been made yet.

[thranduil]

What movie? It hasn't been made yet.
thats funny cuz eh i have it. Or do animations not count as movies.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Ah. I thought you meant Motion Picture Movies.

[Pytt]

but when could we expect it in cinemas, and i'm talking about here in europe.

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

It won't even be untill the rights are purchased. Once that is announced which may take another 2-3 years they can start planning on making Hobbit. Once they start planning it may take another 2 years for development. Once the film is developed it must begin principle photography and editing which generaly would take Jackson 1 year or so. After this it must be distributed another few months for Europe usually. So 3+2+1+.5?= 6.5 years. There you have it potentially 6 and a hald years! Though if things go smoothly for P. Jackson, Hobbit rights, King Kong, production team, and actor age, we may see a Hobbit film in theaters as early as 5 maybe 4 years from 2004!(I don't forsee anything sooner.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

And Halbarad is a foresighted Dunedain ;)

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

True enough my sharp eye'd friend Telcontar.

[The Nameless One]

Men do not go to the Halls of Mandos. Beren was the only one to ever see where men go after death before returning to ME but he never spoke of it to anyone.

Im confussed
:confused: How can men not go to the Halls of Mandos but Beren saw where men go after death; which is the Halls of Mandos?...unless I'm missinterpriting the book. I think you canceled out your first sentence with the second. :)

[Halbarad of the Dunedain]

Telcontar did not negate his first sentence with the second. These are the facts; 1. Elves when they die go to The Halls of Mandos on Valinor. 2. Men go to another unknown place that is NOT The Halls of Mandos. 3. Beren was the only man to see the place(which is not Mandos) that men go to. Beren saw this place but never spoke a word of it to any other man!

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

That is indeed what I meant.

[The Nameless One]

Ok cool. Thanx for clearing that up for me. :D

[Pytt]

It won't even be untill the rights are purchased. Once that is announced which may take another 2-3 years they can start planning on making Hobbit. Once they start planning it may take another 2 years for development. Once the film is developed it must begin principle photography and editing which generaly would take Jackson 1 year or so. After this it must be distributed another few months for Europe usually. So 3+2+1+.5?= 6.5 years. There you have it potentially 6 and a hald years! Though if things go smoothly for P. Jackson, Hobbit rights, King Kong, production team, and actor age, we may see a Hobbit film in theaters as early as 5 maybe 4 years from 2004!(I don't forsee anything sooner.

yeah, that sounds logic to me. so between 2008-2010, we wil get it, both in europe and in USA. if they don't do as they did on the LOTR-movies, it will probably come 2-3 months later here in norway, at least.
but, after all, that is not that far off!

[Lenya]

I hope they do not make a movie about The Hobbit. As has been proven by the LotR movie, it is impossible to make a movie as good as the book. All that will happen is that the director will change and leave stuff out as he pleases - and the result will be another fake movie completely different from the book.

[Valandil]

Hmmmm... maybe Arwen SHOULD show up in the Hobbit movie. After all, the company passed through Rivendell the year of her 2700th birthday. THAT would have been a great occasion to return home and celebrate with her father (though of course, he might wish to keep her out of sight of all those dwarves!)

[Nurvingiel]

*clutches Valadil's pant leg*
You're joking right? :eek: Tell me you're joking! :D

Just in case you're not, I'll point out that they passed near Rivendell, not through it. And Elrond wasn't aiding the quest either, unlike LOTR.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Well as long as there are no Lorien elves at the battle of the five armies to save the day again. :eek:

[Valandil]

Well as long as there are no Lorien elves at the battle of the five armies to save the day again. :eek:

But don't you think that'd be so much easier for movie audiences to understand? I mean - you've got Rivendell Elves, Lorien Elves, Lindon Elves, Mirkwood Elves, Edhellond Elves... you gotcher Teleri, Noldor, Vanyar, Sindar, Silvan, Avari... I mean there's just SO MANY kinds of Elves.

But to a MOVIE audience now, Elves is Elves! It just won't MATTER to the typical moviegoer where they're from, right? ;)

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

True.

[Lenya]

Don't even remind me of the Lorien elves in LotR movie :mad: and as for the moviegoers, It is not my fault if they can't discern between different elven groups. If they get confused, they can go and read the book.

[Lenya]

Elrond did aid in their quest. He helped them to read the secret runes on their map.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

If it wasn't for him they would have never found the secret door.