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Elbreth of Carhouth
08-22-2000, 02:15 AM
What do you think of these stories? I liked them. I've got them in "The Tolkien Reader", a compilation of Tolkien's essays, poetry, and short stories. Well, some of them anyway.

bmilder
08-22-2000, 06:03 PM
A little silly, I thought. But I haven't read either of them in years.

The actual books were better.

Elbreth of Carhouth
08-22-2000, 07:31 PM
Tom Bombadil was a little silly, although cute stories.
Leaf by Niggle had definate serious undertones that I loved. Maybe you didn't catch them? I thought it was an ingenious way of writing.

Niffiwan
08-23-2000, 12:08 AM
Yes, Leaf by Niggle I thought had some very serious things in it, and I have a real respect for it; it shows so much of how life really is.
Tom Bombadil... ehh... I was a bit dissapointed, because only 2 of the rhymes actually had ol' Tom in them. I didn't know that Tolkien had written this before he wrote LoTR when I read it, so I expected more...

Elbreth of Carhouth
08-23-2000, 10:42 PM
Leaf by Niggle is right up with LotR in my favourites. Some people don't understand why until I explain what I see in it. I don't know why they don't see it, maybe it's the way I was brought up.

Niffiwan
08-25-2000, 01:38 AM
Too often, though, there is no way out of a catch-22 situation. :(
Although not up quite to LoTR in my favorites list, I still have a lot of respect for it. I didn't see how anyone could not get the undertones to the story until now...
It's just most of my friends would...

Elbreth of Carhouth
08-25-2000, 03:56 AM
Verytrue Nif, you don't know how much.

Michael Martinez
08-25-2000, 06:21 PM
"The Adventures of Tom Bombadil", though originally composed before Tolkien wrote THE LORD OF THE RINGS, was rewritten in the 1960s for a special ADVENTURES OF TOM BOMBADIL book. "Bombadil Goes Boating" was written for that same book. ADVENTURES was later incorporated into A TOLKIEN READER and POEMS BY J.R.R. TOLKIEN.

Niffiwan
08-26-2000, 01:23 AM
Whoops! Sorry. :p
I thought you said " Very true Nif, you don't know very much."
Sorry, my mistake. :)

I wonder how come I didn't notice after many times of looking at the message...

anduin
08-26-2000, 04:27 AM
Huh?? Did I miss something? I haven't read Leaf by Niggle, so maybe that is it. So, what's it about anyway?

Niffiwan
08-26-2000, 04:53 AM
What's it about? Buy it and see! :)
It's worth the money if you can catch the undertones (which I think you can).

Niffiwan
08-26-2000, 04:55 AM
Elberth: You're right, I don't know just how much.
I know some of it, though...

anduin
08-26-2000, 01:49 PM
Alrighty, I will! :)

Gilthalion
08-26-2000, 06:48 PM
Leaf by Niggle is a pure fantasy, not of the elvish kind, but of a more surreal nature. As with much of Tolkien's work, many Truths are painlessly, almost unconsciously, delivered.

The Tom Bombadil stuff is great, great, fun.

So is Farmer Giles of Ham!

Elbreth of Carhouth
08-27-2000, 09:37 PM
I agree, I don't know why people don't like Farmer Giles. I think he's fun.
Btw, Nif, you're officially forgiven. ;)

anduin
08-28-2000, 12:57 AM
LOL.....I thought that something wasn't quite right about that exchange, but I thought it had something to do with the book since I hadn't read it.

Niffiwan
08-28-2000, 01:55 AM
Well, for me Farmer Giles was a bit unnexciting just after the beginning. It was much better than I expected, though.

Elberth: I remember there was a post a long time ago about "your worst mistake at Entmoot". Should I revive it? ;)

Elbreth of Carhouth
08-28-2000, 02:06 PM
Go for it Nif, that would be fun :)
Farmer Giles is good if you can stick with it. It's one of those stories that you need to make yourself read, and when you're done you're glad you did. At least, that's what I found.

Niffiwan
08-29-2000, 12:31 AM
That's what I found too...

I think I'll wait a few weeks before reviving it ;)

Saulotus
09-11-2000, 09:06 AM
Well I placed my opinion on Findulias' board concernin TB. If interested go there. I'll not repeat it dude.

Niffiwan
09-26-2000, 11:31 PM
Well, you could just "copy+paste"...

Finduilas
09-29-2000, 05:02 PM
I'll be nice, here's the link to the thread: pub8.ezboard.com/ffinduil...ID=4.topic (http://pub8.ezboard.com/ffinduilasstolkiendiscussionthelordoftherings.show Message?topicID=4.topic)

I like Leaf by Niggle, it's sort of sad, yet happy at the same time.
Not so thrilled by Farmer Giles though, and it has been suggested to me that I add Adventures of Tom Bombadil to my webpage eventually (lets put it this way, will do when I finish the current updates and the 2 sections on HoME).