Should Peter Jackson do a movie for The Hobbit?

[Ninquelote]

I personally think it would be a pretty good idea... As long as he doesn't mess up like in the Lord of The Rings movie. :D

It also would complement Lord of The Rings.

Then he should do The Silmarillion in 50 movies!

[Gwaimir Windgem]

There's a thread about this already. :) No doubt, this one will be padlocked, and you redirected to the previous thread. :)

EDIT: Don't feel bad, it happens all the time. Even to the less-new members.

[Ninquelote]

... Oh, -bleep-...

[Agburanar]

It ain't happened yet, so I'll reply now.


NOOO! He should never have picked on Tolkien, never ever ever ever!

Don't let him onto the Hobbit or we'll have a big battle scene between the mysterious zombie thrush and evil Smaug the nasty.

[Melko Belcha]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank God PJ will never get the rights to The Silmarillion, he would rewrite 75% of it and claim that this is what Toliken meant, like he did with LotR. PJ has no idea what Tolkien meant, all PJ cares about is MONEY!

[Radagast The Brown]

Who mentioned the Sil? Why did you jumped with Sil? (Though I can understand the feelings about a Sil movie)

[Melko Belcha]

Sorry, I meant no to The Hobbit movie idea. The statement on PJ making The Sil just got my blood boiling.

[Agburanar]

Absolutely, stupid man.

I wish the entmoot hadn't begun to jump on the bandwagon, please stop this film-relatedness now!!!!

[Ornelírë Mistë]

i think he should not. leave at least one well-known book only in imaginations. leave it pure!! they'd make changes/cuts.

[gimli7410]

i dont think pj messed up lotr as much as you say but yes there were some things that were different

[Ornelírë Mistë]

i never said it was messed up- some things were different. pj did a good job, but once seeing a movie it is sometimes hard to imagine it as you did before you saw it and were just reading the book.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by Melko Belcha
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank God PJ will never get the rights to The Silmarillion, he would rewrite 75% of it and claim that this is what Toliken meant, like he did with LotR. PJ has no idea what Tolkien meant, all PJ cares about is MONEY!

MY DEAR LORD!!! WHAT IN EA DID HE DO THAT ABOUT???

That little...-trails off into long string of Orkish expletives-

the language does have SOME uses y'know :p

Just for the record: I wholeheartedly disagree with you, gimli. :) As I've said a few time before, I liked the movies, but I hated the adaptations.

[Agburanar]

I have to agree that, although PJ was DEFINATELY motivated by money, there was another reason for his sacriledge....

Someone told him it couldn't be done!



He was trying to prove that he could do it, but Im afraid all he's proved is that the book is totally unfilmable. Give up now and don't ruin anything else PJ!

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I disagree. I think he proved that HE is incapable of filming it, not that it is unfilmable. I'm sure a true follower of the Great Lord Tolkien with their priorities straight could film it. :) It might be long, but who cares? :D

(And they'd also need to be aware of the fact that nearly all Eldar have dark hair. :p)

[Ninquelote]

They'd probably just make low-budget films that are 9 hours long each... and there'd be 8 of them.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Hey, with low budget, you can't do tremendous SFX and elaborate battle scenes, so you have to rely on the story. Which of course is most important of all.

[Ninquelote]

But the CG was damn cool, you have to admit that.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Of course! :eek: (we ARE talking about the LOTR movies, aren't we?)

CGI was spectacular. I never denied that. I'd have to be:

A. An Idiot
or
B. A Liar

to say that. :eek: Hmm...now that I look at that first one...it sucked! :D

[Ninquelote]

Lets go back to our original topic...

[Gwaimir Windgem]

All right...NO!

[Ninquelote]

-shakes fist- screw you!

I think the hobbit would be a challange for any movemaker. Then again, LoTR would also be considered that... but it wasn't made well...

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
All right...NO!

Shouldn't that be more like:

NOOOOOOOOOOOoooo!!!

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Yes, I suppose that'll work too. :D

[BeardofPants]

It had better damned well work; I spent ages making those 'o's look perfectly anguished. (Okay, 5 seconds, but still...) ;)

[Gwaimir Windgem]

How many seconds in an age? ;)

[Ninquelote]

Depends on how long the age is. The age of 'O's?

[olsonm]

It's up to PJ. I doubt he'll want to do it anytime soon.

[Ninquelote]

Originally posted by olsonm
It's up to PJ. I doubt he'll want to do it anytime soon.

He probably will retire rich after the LoTR movies have finished.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I doubt it. Take a vacation from movie business, certainly, but who doesn't want more money? :)

[Ninquelote]

Yeah, but he might screw it up. :D

[Ninquelote]

I mean, on a much larger scale than the LoTR movies. If that's possible.

[BeardofPants]

I doubt he's gonna do anything Tolkien for at least 20 years. I mean, he's been working on LOTR for what? the last five years? :eek:

[olsonm]

His next project is reported to be a remake of King Kong.

[Bombadillo]

Can't he do anything original? Instead of rewriting and remaking all the good stuff?

Anyway, should PJ make a Hobbit movie? For the love of God NO!!!!!! But no doubt someone should. Someone truly geeky and who's a close follower of the entire storyline. When I read anything, I picture the story like it is a movie, and I know The Hobbit would make a damn good movie if only there was someone good behind the camera.

So if anyone here isn't yet sure what to do with their life, I suggest filming The Hobbit. Honestly. Someone please do it, before Jackson gets any more ideas.

[Wayfarer]

Should peter jackson ever make another movie in his life? No.

[Eowyn, Lady of Rohan]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Shouldn't that be more like:

NOOOOOOOOOOOoooo!!!

No way, he'd just mess it up!

[Eowyn, Lady of Rohan]

Originally posted by Wayfarer
Should peter jackson ever make another movie in his life? No.

I quite agree with BoP and you. He'd just mess up the entire movie.

[druss]

you are having a laugh.....
make the hobbit into a film..mmmm could work.
BUT the silmarillion!!!!!!!! no chance. we spend most of the holidays watching crass adaptations of biblical movies (and still haven't got past,metaphorically speaking,the first chapter). to do the silmarillion any justice at all would take 24/7 for a year. so leave off the idea of tolkiens finest hour being made into any form of visual medium. good grief its taken me years to comprehend the book.

[IthilienPrincess]

Peter Jackson should totally do a movie for The Hobbit. That'd be awesome. Kinda like how they made Star Wars in reverse, like went back to episode 1, if you get what i'm saying, which you probbly don't cuz it doesn't make sense, but i know what i mean so yeah. I think it'd be really successful, considering he's already got tons of people hooked on LOTR.

[IthilienPrincess]

Ok, i agree that he'd mess it up, but now that he's done the LOTR, i don't think anyone else will "step into his territory" so to say. So if a movie's gonna be made, it's probably gonna be by him. Maybe by the time he decides to do that he'll have gotten his act together.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Why not? There's been tons of Draculas. Maybe Tolkien will be the next Bram Stoker. :)

[Kili Goldmoth]

I think he should:)

[elixir]

Well, I don't have anything against Peter Jackson making The Hobbit movie, someone else might do it also, as long as someone makes a movie of it at all...

About PJ and LOTR, I didn't like some changes he made, but it wasn't THAT bad, in my opinion at least ;)

[legolialis]

I would love to see the hobbit made into a movie. It would develop the story of lord of the rings more and help people who havent read the books undestand it more

[Elbereth5]

i think it should be..but not if its going to ruin it like pj did with LOTR

[PippinTook]

i think a hobbit movie would be ok, if it was done right, movies had been made after books and it ended up ok, please don't smack me, its just my oppy

[Sheeana]

*smack*

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Actually, I've been thinking about PJ filming The Hobbit, in light of my reevaluation of the first two LOTR movies (I give the first an A- and the second a C+).
How about a two-part Hobbit, the first ending with Thorin & Co. entering Mirkwood and the White Counsel attacking Dol Guldur. You can have Gandalf, Saruman, Elrond, Galadriel, and Legolas (for fangirls) reprise roles. Not sure if Ian Holmes could be "youthened" up enough to do Bilbo. And by playing a bit with real chronology have a teenage/young adult Aragorn find out about his heritage (to include love interest with Arwen) and have his early involvement in Gondor/Rohan in Part II of the movie. And wouldn't Gimli of movies (John R. Davies) be a great Thorin Oakenshield? Also, PJ could do excellent special effects of Beorn, Smaug, trolls, Dol Guldur attack by White Counsel, and spiders.
There is enough ambiguity in the events of The Hobbit (what was the composition of the force driving Sauron from Dol Guldur, actual debate and interaction of "The Wise" before attacking, were Elven/Ranger forces involved, how to work in a role for Legolas), that it wouldn't really be necessary to tamper with the plot of The Hobbit much.
Also, if another love interest is needed for these movies, make up something between Bard and a Laketown girl.

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Sorry, I think I posted message twice. Deleting didn't work, so put in this note.:rolleyes:

[Tinuviel22]

absolutely! I love the hobbit. It kind of shows a different side to the dwarves and the wood elves
like when Thorin had Dain come and help them fight Bard and the elves. it shows the dwarves more like warriors. I really like that. I like the Hobbit almost more than the three LOTR books.

[Black Breathalizer]

Folks, it's not a matter of 'if' PJ will make the Hobbit, it's only a matter of 'when.'

One of the greatest things about the Hobbit film project is that PJ will have the opportunity to retell Tolkien's kiddie book with the more appropriate adult fantasy tone the Master used in writing LOTR.

[IronParrot]

One of the greatest things about the Hobbit film project is that PJ will have the opportunity to retell Tolkien's kiddie book with the more appropriate adult fantasy tone the Master used in writing LOTR.
Hmm... not sure about that.

The core of The Hobbit's appeal to me is that it does have a lightness, a "kiddie" tone you might say, that was nowhere to be found in the arguably over-pretentious Silmarillion and its absorption with grand mytho-fantasy. LOTR, book and film, hit the perfect middle-ground between the two.

However, if Peter Jackson handles it with as deftly as he did the first half of The Fellowship of the Ring, particularly the early scenes before the Prancing Pony, there's absolutely nothing to worry about. He has too keen a sense for immersive imagery. He'd have to have Andrew Lesnie on board, though, to capture the vibrance and colour that is needed.

You'll note, however, that in FOTR, PJ wisely shied away from Tom Bombadil, who wouldn't have fit into the tone of the LOTR films - and is probably the part of LOTR that is most like The Hobbit.

My point remains, though, that The Hobbit should not be made any darker than it already is. If Peter Jackson understands that, then he would be the perfect man for the movie.

(Otherwise, I'd take the ever-whimsical visual genius Terry Gilliam, who should have done Harry Potter but didn't.)

[hectorberlioz]

Hobbit movie should keep the "light" tone in it.
Ironparrot, who is Andrew Lesnie?

[IronParrot]

Director of Photography on The Lord of the Rings. To put it in simplistic terms, he's responsible for all the light, colour and shadow.

[Black Breathalizer]

I totallly agree that the Hobbit should have a lighter tone than LOTR. But if filmed as written, we have -- ack! -- a Disney film!!! Personally, I think PJ would be perfect at capturing the lightness of the book's mood while approaching the story seriously.

[Finrod Felagund]

Ian Mkellen would have to reprise his role as Gandalf, with Andy Serkis back as Gollum. San Connery for Thorin.

[Ilúvatar]

'Rings' Director Wants to Bring 'Hobbit' to Screen (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=638&ncid=638&e=3&u=/nm/20031208/en_nm/arts_rings_director_dc_4)

Despite his exhaustion, Jackson is not resting on his laurels and said if complex rights issues can be resolved he would like to direct "The Hobbit," J.R.R. Tolkien's prequel to the "Rings" trilogy set some 50 years earlier.

"I'd be interested in doing it because I think it would give continuity to the overall chapter," he said.

While many of the lead "Rings" characters do not appear in "The Hobbit" story, the wizard Gandalf, played by Ian McKellen (news), and Gollum, the cave dweller corrupted by the powerful ring, do and should make a comeback. Arwen, the elf princess played by Liv Tyler (news), could also feature again, Jackson said.

Should Jackson bring the Hobbit to the screen? One word, NO!!

[samwiselvr2008]

PJ should do some of the speacail effects and direct the movie, but he shouldn't write the script (and neather should Fran Walsh and Boyens, or whatever there names are). You have to admit, he did do a great job with shooting LOTR film, and costumes and all, he just didn't ceep it very close to the books, so if someone else wrote the script, and he just directed it, that would work.

[Thorin II]

I loved the LOTR movies and I think PJ did a great job; some of the changes were odd, but on the whole, I was impressed.

That said, I would love to see The Hobbit as a PJ movie, but I think it would be tough to do after the LOTR. The scale is smaller and the story is less complex; audiences (especially those who haven't read the books) may be disappointed. Doing The Hobbit first would've been easier.

[ethuiliel]

I can't say I approve of everything PJ did. Far from it actually, but I still think he would do OK with the Hobbit, as long as he didn't make it darker, and didn't make the Battle of the Five Armies take up half the movie or something. At least if he did it, there would be something tying the two together.

[Nurvingiel]

This is the third thread about this movie. Are they all going to be merged?

[Underhill]

I really hope that he does make "Hobbit" it would totally rock with the trolls and all.

[Glorfindel_of_Gondolin]

I can’t believe the posts here bagging pj and his movies! He took a work of massive size, scope and grandeur, one of the defining works of a generation, and managed to transfer it successfully to another medium while still staying true to the heart of the story.

One must consider that if you were to make the movie as the book exactly, we would be sitting down for four or five hours per film. No one but the most dedicated would sit through that marathon. The film has to make money, at least to pay its actors and crew, and movie studios are no in the business of losing money. So all artistic considerations are subservient to the movies overall bank ability. To make it a reasonable length, anything that is not pivotal to the plot is fair game.

Any adaptation of the novel could never have every line of dialogue or every event or character. Anyone who thinks that, is not really sure of what they are saying.

And the films have easily brought millions of new readers to the works of Tolkien, and let anyone say that that’s a bad thing.

If he did do The Hobbit, he would, I feel, give his all to do it justice.

Oh an P.S. On several occasions, pj has said that he would have made the movies for free.