Fantasy Writer's Forum Petition:

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Hail, and well met! To all of the Entmooters who have an interest in original fantasy writing. The suggestion has been posed that we petition the Administrators for a forum on Entmoot designed for people to post stories, a forum dedicated to fantasy writing. If you are in favour of such a forum, please post your name below. :) I will edit this post to include the names of those who sign the petition. They have one for Harry Potter and RP's, why not writing! :D

Sincerely,
Gwaimir Windgem

The Petition:
Dear administrators and moderators of our beloved Entmoot;
Due to the opening of a particular thread, it has become apparent that many of the people of Entmoot have an interest in writing works of fantasy. The thought has been put forth that possibly a forum designated for discussion of fantasy writing and the sharing of fantasy works and ideas, and especially the constructive critiquing thereof, may be a good addition to this online community which so many call home. We, the undersigned, would greatly appreciate it if you kindly consider the creation of such a forum.

Sincerely,
Gwaimir Windgem

The Undersigned:

Gwaimir Windgem
Lief Erikson
Miranda
ArwenEvenstar
Silverstripe
elvendrummer87
Laurus Nobilis
Mark of Cenla
Elvellyn
Finrod Felagund
Starr Polish
Linaewen
Aralyn
TheWhiteRider
Agalayth
Ninquelote

[Lief Erikson]

You can put my name on it. However, I think that we should agree upon a certain number of people having had their signature there before we let it fly. Perhaps we should have at least ten people interested or something before we feel free to send it. After we ten people have signed in we could still have it linger for a while, collecting more support, but I think we should have a minimum number in favor before we feel free to release it.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Yes, that sounds like a good idea. But I really have no idea what number would be good, so ten is fine with me. :)

[Miranda]

Put me down, I'm in!

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Thanks for your support, your name is included. :)

[ArwenEvenstar]

ya! put me down!!:D:)

[Silverstripe]

This sounds like a good idea. Put me down, too! :)

[elvendrummer87]

yay! put me down too! :D

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Thanks everyone, will add your names presently. :)

[Laurus Nobilis]

I'm in! :) This sounds like a really good idea.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Your name is added. :) Thanks for your support!

[IronParrot]

I'm not a signatory, but I'd just like to post here and let you know that your proposal is being considered by the moderators at present.

However, what are your thoughts on a Writer's forum that is not necessarily limited to Fantasy? Is it absolutely necessary that this specifically be a Fantasy Writer's Forum? That's just a question of clarification I have personally.

We welcome your feedback.

[Mark of Cenla]

Sounds good to me; count me in. Anything supporting writing is good by me.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Naturally, it wouldn't be restricted to fantasy, though I would certainly think it would be more fantasy oriented.

[Elvellyn]

I think its a great idea! You can sign me up.:D

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Thanks for your support, will add you. :)

[BeardofPants]

I honestly don't think there's enough interest here to warrant a whole forum. But good luck! :)

[Laurus Nobilis]

However, what are your thoughts on a Writer's forum that is not necessarily limited to Fantasy?

That's an even better idea- even more people can participate, and we could discuss writing techniques and exercises too.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
I honestly don't think there's enough interest here to warrant a whole forum. But good luck! :)

Thanks for the good luck! :)

[Lief Erikson]

I think in the forum people could post short stories, plot ideas, or discuss their writing techniques. It needn't be limited to fantasy writing. None of the short stories I've written so far are fantasy, actually, except one. And I don't think I'll post it either, though I might reconsider eventually :). It's a comedy romance, so I might be embarrassed :D.

So, it looks like we're only one person away from our minimum number already :D. Looking good :).

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Yup! :) :D

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Though I don't think it really matters, as the mods and admins are already debating the matter.

[Starr Polish]

Put my name there, but perhaps it would be easier to push if it were a general writing forum.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Your name is added. :)

And I agree, 'twould be best to alter it to a general writing forum.

[ArwenEvenstar]

a general forum would be a lot better then just strictly fantasy

[Lief Erikson]

We're all in agreement on that point :).

[elvendrummer87]

general writing would prbably get it through faster; people could post poems and short stories and everything. and i think there are enough people interested in that kinda thing; how many supporters would be "enough",do you think? i'd say we have plenty.

[Lief Erikson]

We have ten people here, and we haven't really advertised. If I posted about it on the RPG forum, where there are lots of people trying to become better writers, there'd be a chance more people would want to get involved. And probably most of the people involved will be posting short stories and poems, and critiquing or applauding each others. (Gets a dreamy expression) Ah, that'd be nice :).

I haven't heard anything from the moderators for a while. Have they discarded our request?

[elvendrummer87]

hey that's a good idea! never thought of that. advertising... i'm thinking a big banner draped across the forum home... j/k lol :D

[crickhollow]

Originally posted by Lief Erikson
I haven't heard anything from the moderators for a while. Have they discarded our request? Let's not be hasty, now. ;) You'll know the outcome either way.

edit: the history major in me just can't help pointing out that this is my 1066th post, and I'd like to take a moment to dedicate it to William the Conqueror. ;)

[IronParrot]

I urge you guys not to openly advertise the idea on other forums yet. If we create this forum, we will be putting up board-wide announcements regarding the change. If you really feel a need to get some more people in the RPG forum and such involved in this, please do it by PM.

[Lief Erikson]

I'm sorry if I sounded impatient; I was just thinking out loud. Carry on with your considering :).

[Linaewen]

If it's not too late, could you put my name down as well?
Will it include poetry (like your Weavers of Legend site) as well?
I like poetry: can't write it, but i appreciate it!

[Linaewen]

BTW, Gwaimir, I'm not happy with the fact that noone voted for the Silm in your Tolkien poll. Or that guests can't vote.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Certainly could. :)

Hmm? I could have sworn I'd voted for it! :eek: Silly me. :(

Indeed, I have no doubt it would. :)

[Lief Erikson]

Ironparrot, I'm sorry, but I'm getting impatient again. I wouldn't be if I could see progress being made, but I'm not on the end of discussion that you are. Are there any new developments among mods or admins in discussion of the Writer's Forum?

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I've been wondering the same thing. Are you sure you didn't decide not to, and forget to tell me?

[crickhollow]

the idea got shelved while we were plotting our Grand Scheme for April 1st. The topic has now been picked up again, and is still under discussion.

[Lief Erikson]

Thanks for the update :).

[Aralyn]

You can put my name too. Did you tell people in the thread, "Do you do any fantasy writing?" I know you want it to be more than fantasy but if those people like to write they might sign the petition.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

The idea came from there, and as it's in the same forum, I expect they can find it. :)

Actually, I'd rather a specialised one, but that might be viewed as rather selfish...:eek: Not to mention, a general Writer's forum would no doubt go over better.:)

[TheWhiteRider]

count me in! I like reading other's work and i may post some of my own.

[Ninquelote]

Hey, man, add me in too. :D
You didn't think I wouldn't join in, didja? I have my Canayen story you like so much.

[Agalayth]

Hehe, me too.

Don't forget, the Weavers of Legend is also a great place to write your fantasy stories, poems, or anything like that. We also have a private forum so only registered members can get in. There isn't much in it though.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Unfortunately not. :( That's why I started this petition, wot with the great number of 'Mooters.

TheWhiteRider, Ninquelote, Agalayth, will add. :)

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I've received confirmation from numerous sources that the Writer's Forum has been approved. Hurrah! :D Though, of course, it will take a little while to do, and I haven't received information about specifics regarding time...but it's approved! :D

[Lief Erikson]

Hurrah! (Lief claps Gwaimir on the back in joy :D. He pours the champagne, only to remember a moment later that he doesn't like it particularly much, and takes an Easter candy bar instead) Hurrah!

(Takes cymbals and starts clanging them, wild with joy)

Mmm, of course, I already knew that that happened from your email ;). However, doesn't prevent me from being joyful (Even in public :o)on this one occasion! :D:D:D:cool:

Now I just have to get busy and work on that story I'm writing. (Frowns intently) I'm writing a comedy story for myself and my sister (Who reads my stories and loves them :D), and I'm planning to post it in the new forum. I'm eight pages into it now, and I suspect it'll be around thirty pages long by its end. I don't want to post it piece by piece much, for I'm afraid doing that might eliminate my motivation to finish it. That'll be a fun one to post, when finished.


This new forum is probably the thing I've gotten most excited about in all my time on Entmoot (Even though I've put a lot more thought into certain other things).

[Linaewen]

Fantastic! Yeah! Looking forward to reading all your stories (I won't posting any stories seeing as I don't write any)

Now I just have to get busy and work on that story I'm writing. (Frowns intently) I'm writing a comedy story for myself and my sister (Who reads my stories and loves them ), and I'm planning to post it in the new forum. I'm eight pages into it now, and I suspect it'll be around thirty pages long by its end. I don't want to post it piece by piece much, for I'm afraid doing that might eliminate my motivation to finish it. That'll be a fun one to post, when finished.
I think posting it piece by piece may INCREASE your motivation. Every time you post, there will be messages going 'Great!' 'LOL!' and 'Add more, Lief, more!'.

This new forum is probably the thing I've gotten most excited about in all my time on Entmoot (Even though I've put a lot more thought into certain other things).
Such as the thread I started but never post in. It is far too complex for me to even pretend to know what's going on in it.

[Aralyn]

yup i like to read things in pieces instead of on long chunk so when will the forum get up?

[Laurus Nobilis]

Great news! :)

[Lief Erikson]

Originally posted by Linaewen
Looking forward to reading all your stories (I won't posting any stories seeing as I don't write any)
What? :( Surely you can write one or two before then. They don't have to be perfect for me to enjoy them :). Are you just writing novels now, then, or are you not actively doing any fiction writing?

Glad you'll enjoy reading my stories though, anyway :).
Originally posted by Linaewen
I think posting it piece by piece may INCREASE your motivation. Every time you post, there will be messages going 'Great!' 'LOL!' and 'Add more, Lief, more!'.
Yes, you and Aralyn are right. I will post it in pieces- I just hope my motivation doesn't die because I'm already getting feedback. I'll work at it though; probably I'll write some more of it today.
Originally posted by Linaewen
Such as the thread I started but never post in. It is far too complex for me to even pretend to know what's going on in it.
What was the thread's subject?

[IronParrot]

Congratulations, all. You've just participated in what is perhaps the first successful petition I've ever seen in my entire life. :p

I'm going to be leaving this thread open for a little while longer, so you can celebrate and revel in revelry or whatever, and after that I will likely be shunting it over to the Archives.

[Elvellyn]

The petitioning has paid off! We now have a writer's forum!

[Earniel]

Amazing. The 'moot sure keeps on growing and growing.

[Silverstripe]

Yay! This is great news. And thanks, Gwaimir Windgem, for starting the petition in the first place. :)

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Don't forget it was Lief's idea. :)

-ahem-

WOOHOO! YIPPEEE! MOOT WRITING BOARD! YIPPEE-YAYO-KAH-YEH! :D

[Elf Girl]

*enters thread she has followed for a long time but just waited to see what happened* So! A new forum! Hm, what to post, what to post...

[Lief Erikson]

You could post thoughts on story writing, or character development, or essays and writing assignments, or especially fiction writing. How long have you been writing fiction?

[Coney]

Hmm, I haven't done any serious writing for several months (Uni being it's usual awkward self, demanding essay's, research etc :( ) but I'll defo be viewing this forum with interest.:)

Well done ladies and gentlemoots..........it goes to show, if ya keep chipping at the admin block yer'll eventually crack it :D ;)

[Elf Girl]

Not long. A few years, off and on.

*whine* But all my stuff is cruddy!

Well then, I won't post it. :rolleyes:

EDIT: Supposed to be before Coney's post.

[Linaewen]

Originally posted by Lief Erikson
What? :( Surely you can write one or two before then. They don't have to be perfect for me to enjoy them :). Are you just writing novels now, then, or are you not actively doing any fiction writing?
No. I don't write at all. Well, I could try... but I am too busy learning everything about Arda so as not to appear like such an ignorant idiot...

Originally posted by Lief Erikson
Glad you'll enjoy reading my stories though, anyway :).
Yes, you and Aralyn are right. I will post it in pieces- I just hope my motivation doesn't die because I'm already getting feedback. I'll work at it though; probably I'll write some more of it today.
;) Go Lief! Fantastic! Very funny.. please continue! etc [/Bit of motivation]
Originally posted by Lief Erikson
[B]What was the thread's subject?
Good and Evil... it is still DISCUSSING good and evil... tho' way off the question I asked at the start...

BTW: Go Gwai! Took me a while to notice this forum, but congrats are due!

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by Elf Girl
*whine* But all my stuff is cruddy!


Bah, humbug. :) Your tale of Luhtarian and Glorfindel was very interesting, indeed. :)

[Lief Erikson]

Originally posted by Linaewen
;) [Bit o' motivation for ya] Go Lief! Fantastic! Very funny.. please continue! etc [/Bit of motivation]
The story I've posted so far I wrote about two years ago. Around the time Starr Polish wrote the two stories she's posted; I'll post the date on my soon, probably.
Originally posted by Linaewen
Good and Evil... it is still DISCUSSING good and evil... tho' way off the question I asked at the start...
Alas, we couldn't find any common ground. The question was what we thought of good and evil. Some people didn't think that good and evil didn't exist, so we had to retreat to the basis of their theories. That's where the argument has been circulating; myself arguing against genetics being responsible for everything and Insidious Rex arguing that genetics is responsible for everything.
Originally posted by Linaewen
BTW: Go Gwai! Took me a while to notice this forum, but congrats are due!
Yes, thank-you Gwaimir for writing the petition :D. I'm greatly enjoying this forum.

[Lief Erikson]

Originally posted by Elf Girl
Not long. A few years, off and on.

*whine* But all my stuff is cruddy!

Well then, I won't post it. :rolleyes:

EDIT: Supposed to be before Coney's post.
My first writing works were pretty pathetic. I've been looking for them actually, just for the purpose of laughing at them :D. You can edit your stuff to make it less . . . cruddy, as you put it. Revision and editing is something I just about never did in the past.

Besides, as Gwaimir pointed out, it doesn't have to be wonderful to be enjoyable for people to read. I ALWAYS enjoy getting new people posting in my RPGs, and reading their posts, even if their writing ability hasn't had as long to develop as mine and some of the other RPGers has.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Yes, you should have seen my first two stories. Positively crap...:o But I, erhem, "eliminated the evidence"...;)

Of course, my family thought they were wonderful...:rolleyes: I'm still using the BASIC basic storyline from the second, which I think may have been the same as the first, but I don't remember. Well, I'm GOING to, that is, but that story has been relegated to the end of a trilogy.

[Elvellyn]

Yes, you should have seen my first two stories. Positively crap... But I, erhem, "eliminated the evidence"...

You shouldn't have done that. It's good to keep your old stories, if for no other reason than just to keep track of your progress. I was cleaning out some old papers the other day and found a story I had started on a few years ago. It was really bad, but it was good for me to see how far I had come- just in basic writing style.

[Finrod Felagund]

PUT MY NAME ON!!! umm...oh too late. Darn it! Can you put my name on anyways? PLEASE?:) :D

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Done. :)