What Fingolfin looked like during his rage... [Archive]

DÃºnedain

03-19-2003, 02:42 AM

in riding to battle Morgoth. After reading about that some months ago, and growing to like Fingolfin the best of all Elf's, I realized just now that there is an image in my mind of what he could have looked liked. I remember playing this game called Warcraft III last year and there is a character who is an elvish priest with flaming eyes of blue, and so I wanted to post this to show everyone what that character looks like, to me I picture it being a copy of Fingolfin during his rage...

Here is the link to that image:

http://www.battle.net/war3/images/human/units/portraits/priest.gif

Gwaimir Windgem

03-19-2003, 03:06 AM

Dear lord, don't tell me you really think the princes of the Noldor were sword-ear elves???

DÃºnedain

03-19-2003, 04:05 AM

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Dear lord, don't tell me you really think the princes of the Noldor were sword-ear elves???

I didn't say that it looked exactly like him, however the flaming eyes and the golden hair resemble him, plus the picture looks angry, thus during his rage...:D

Inderjit Sanghera

03-19-2003, 04:58 AM

Fingolfin was dark haired.

FrodoFriend

03-19-2003, 07:49 AM

I pictured him as sexy ... so not quite like in that image ... :)

Falagar

03-19-2003, 11:32 AM

in riding to battle Morgoth. After reading about that some months ago, and growing to like Fingolfin the best of all Elf's, I realized just now that there is an image in my mind of what he could have looked liked. I remember playing this game called Warcraft III last year and there is a character who is an elvish priest with flaming eyes of blue, and so I wanted to post this to show everyone what that character looks like, to me I picture it being a copy of Fingolfin during his rage...

You've played Warcraft 3 too? I'm not the only computer-gamer here then...
Sorry, off topic..

Lefty Scaevola

03-19-2003, 12:41 PM

NoloFinwe's aura shown so brightly through from the spirt world during that ride that it made many of the enemy believe that it was one of the Valar.

Gwaimir Windgem

03-19-2003, 01:00 PM

O.O

That's impressive. But I thought it was Finwe NoloFinwe?

OT: I play a few computer games, but not many new ones. I mostly like 'classics', like LOMSE and Majesty. But I do know a few WC3 players; one of them I think has a temple to Blizzard in his room.

DÃºnedain

03-19-2003, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Inderjit Sanghera
Fingolfin was dark haired.

I disagree, he had long golden-hair...

Starr Polish

03-19-2003, 02:23 PM

Anke Eissman's art has me convinced. Fingolfin had long, gold hair.

Gwaimir Windgem

03-19-2003, 03:03 PM

I think that long golden hair is the more common conception, but that in some volume (maybe Silmarillion, but probably one I haven't read yet) he is probably described as dark-haired.

DÃºnedain

03-19-2003, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
I think that long golden hair is the more common conception, but that in some volume (maybe Silmarillion, but probably one I haven't read yet) he is probably described as dark-haired.

I've been trying to find the passage all day and I can't but I remember reading that he had golden-hair.

Also, countless reknowned Tolkien Artists have painted Fingolfin with golden hair as well. If John Howe has him with Golden hair than the probability that he was written in with having golden hair is usually right on...

Gwaimir Windgem

03-19-2003, 03:24 PM

Since some of the VERY learned Tolkien scholars have said he had dark hair, I presume that this is the fact. We'll just have to wait till one of them can give us a quote. :)

DÃºnedain

03-19-2003, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Since some of the VERY learned Tolkien scholars have said he had dark hair, I presume that this is the fact. We'll just have to wait till one of them can give us a quote. :)

Who? Provide me with some of these "VERY" learned Tolkien scholars, I haven't seen anything....

BeardofPants

03-19-2003, 03:38 PM

I've always been of the opinion that he was dark haired. *shrug* Where's SGH when you need her? :D

BeardofPants

03-19-2003, 03:46 PM

"was his father's son, tall, dark", The Shibboleth of Feanor, HoMe vol 12

DÃºnedain

03-19-2003, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by BeardofPants
"was his father's son, tall, dark", The Shibboleth of Feanor, HoMe vol 12

BAH! I am so disappointed now, lol, I like thinking he has golden hair better. I think I found where my confusion was, this is a quote regarding Finarfin, his brother:

"Alone among the Noldorin princes he and his descendants had golden hair, derived from his mother Indis, who was a Vanyarin Elf."

Well anyway, back to the picture I posted, it's all in the eyes :D

I still could have sworn I read about Fingolfin with golden hair though :(

Gwaimir Windgem

03-19-2003, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by BeardofPants
I've always been of the opinion that he was dark haired. *shrug* Where's SGH when you need her? :D

One topic over! :mad:

Gwaimir Windgem

03-19-2003, 03:50 PM

Anywho, I just want to go on record as saying that I object to the likening (to any great degree) of your typical Warcraft/DND/DragonLance/WHATEVER Elf to the Eldar of Middle-earth. They just ain't the same.

DÃºnedain

03-19-2003, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Anywho, I just want to go on record as saying that I object to the likening (to any great degree) of your typical Warcraft/DND/DragonLance/WHATEVER Elf to the Eldar of Middle-earth. They just ain't the same.

How so? Warcraft is based off of Tolkien's works....

Gwaimir Windgem

03-19-2003, 03:56 PM

Yes, in the sense that all modern fantasy is. But do you think that the green Orcs are the same? The noble, shamanistic race, who was tricked and deceived into acting evil?

The elves of modern fantasy are, in many ways, much more like humans than the Eldar.

Ruinel

03-19-2003, 08:29 PM

Finarfin and his decendents had the golden hair... says so in The Sil, I believe.

My brother is a D&D & RPG kinda guy (Akirapryde) and he has no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to Tolkien's Elves, Orcs, Men, Istari, etc. He is totally lost. It is fun b/c I feed him Quenya or Sindarin and he had no idea what it is (I've named him "Tithen Cabor"). I find it hard to believe that there are any similarities. But then again, I have no knowlege of D&D & RPG at all. Therefore, I am no expert on the subject in any way.

afro-elf

03-20-2003, 02:26 AM

Of the sons of Indis only Finarfin and his descendants had golden hair.

Yes, one cool picture.

BeardofPants

03-20-2003, 04:23 AM

Well, I'd just like to comment that the eye colour is all wrong as well. :p

DÃºnedain

03-20-2003, 04:34 AM

Well like I said, that is how I view Fingolfin :D

afro-elf

03-20-2003, 08:11 AM

Maybe your picture could be Glorfindel or Finrod instead?

DÃºnedain

03-20-2003, 11:20 AM

Could be, but for some reason when I think of Fingolfin's rage I think of that pic, mainly the eyes and the angered look on his face :p

Ruinel

03-20-2003, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by afro-elf
Maybe your picture could be Glorfindel or Finrod instead?

Ack!!! :eek: No!! He doesn't look anything like Finrod! Besides, we can't see his buns. ;)

Ack!!! Did I post that... *hides face in shame* ooohhhhh, I'm gonna pay for that one. I'm gonna pay big time.:o

Ninquelote

03-26-2003, 03:56 PM

I don't think anyone can really use any sort of picture for any character, because different characters look different in different people's minds.

People picture different qualities and associate them with different physical features... Quite odd, in my opinion...

Then again, I never pictured any sort of elf as a pixillized character. :p

Arien the Maia

03-26-2003, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by Ninquelote
I don't think anyone can really use any sort of picture for any character, because different characters look different in different people's minds.

People picture different qualities and associate them with different physical features... Quite odd, in my opinion...

Then again, I never pictured any sort of elf as a pixillized character. :p

I totally agree...I am illustrating some characters from the Sil, and I wouldn't expect everyone to think that Feanor, (my avatar) for instance, looks like how I picture him. What would have been really cool was if Tolkien drew pictures of his characters or places or things. That way everyone would know that this is what the charac ter, place, or thing, really looked like.

Halbarad of the North

03-26-2003, 10:57 PM

Fingolfin can't be dark haired, the only noldor with dark hair were the house of Finarfin.

Gwaimir Windgem

03-26-2003, 11:02 PM

Welcome to the Entmoot, Halbarad! :) It's always great to see someone with a name from the books! :D

I think you're a bit mixed up. I believe they had dark hair, except for the "golden house of Finarfin". :)

afro-elf

03-27-2003, 02:51 AM

Yeah, welcome Halbarad, but you have it reversed.

Inderjit Sanghera

03-27-2003, 05:27 AM

The only ROYAL Eldarin house (i.e of Finwean descent) to have fully golden hair in their house was the Finarfians. An example of non-Finarfians who had golden hair were, Glorfindel and Idril had golden hair as well.

I always thought Findis had Golden hair, for some reason.

DÃºnedain

03-27-2003, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
What would have been really cool was if Tolkien drew pictures of his characters or places or things. That way everyone would know that this is what the charac ter, place, or thing, really looked like.

I'm actually glad he didn't draw them, because now we can imagine them the way we want to with certain attributes from their descriptions and whatnot. It gives more depth to the stories in my opinion :D

RÃan

03-27-2003, 08:40 PM

From HoME 12, The Peoples of Middle Earth: from The Shibboleth of FÃ«anor
Fingolfin was his father's son, tall, dark, and proud, as were most of the Ã‘oldor...
*sigh* - I like Fingolfin, and I like dark hair!

From the Sil:from Of The Ruin of Beleriand
...and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking that OromÃ« himself was come: for a great madness of rage was upon him, so that his eyes shone like the eyes of the Valar......Thus died Fingolfin, High King of the Noldor, most proud and valiant of the Elven-kings of old. The Orcs made no boast of that duel at the gate; neither do the Elves sing of it, for their sorrow is too deep. :(

BeardofPants

03-28-2003, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by RÃ*an
From HoME 12, The Peoples of Middle Earth:

I already posted that! :p

RÃan

03-28-2003, 02:47 AM

whoops!

DÃºnedain

03-29-2003, 04:42 AM

Well either way that is how I picture Fingolfin anyway :p

Especially the eyes! :D

Falagar

03-30-2003, 12:06 PM

Happy now? I colored his hair! ;)
http://link.freepichosting.com/image.cgi/29888/0.jpg

afro-elf

03-31-2003, 01:53 AM

Nice! :cool:

Mirahzi

03-31-2003, 04:08 AM

Very interesting, Falagar. :) To nitpick, though, you've left out the highlights, so it's hard to discern from his hair and the black background.

Falagar

03-31-2003, 04:15 AM

Perhaps I should paint flames in the background instead.... :)

DÃºnedain

03-31-2003, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by Falagar
Happy now? I colored his hair! ;)
http://link.freepichosting.com/image.cgi/29888/0.jpg

LOL! You beat me to it, haha. I was thinking about that the other day, lol :p

Gwaimir Windgem

03-31-2003, 11:22 AM

Too bad he still has swords for ears. :p

Falagar

03-31-2003, 03:22 PM

I've now also shortend his ears...hang on a sec.

Edit: one of the ears is a little bit shorter than the other :rolleyes:
http://link.freepichosting.com/image.cgi/30186/0.jpg

afro-elf

03-31-2003, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Too bad he still has swords for ears. :p

Now he has daggers for ears:p :)

Still, better than I could do.

DÃºnedain

03-31-2003, 05:15 PM

I think Batman is standing behind him :p

Ruinel

04-01-2003, 08:19 PM

hahahahahahahaha.... OMI.... that is too funny. .... hahahahaah....can't .... type....hahhahahaaha... nevermind. ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaahahahhaahah aha

Anglorfin

04-12-2003, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by DÃºnedain
How so? Warcraft is based off of Tolkien's works....

LoL Blizzard is probably the most unoriginal game maker I've ever seen. That is not to say I don't like their games, but man I could go on for hours listing plot rehashes or names that they borrowed.

DÃºnedain

04-13-2003, 03:20 AM

Originally posted by Anglorfin
LoL Blizzard is probably the most unoriginal game maker I've ever seen. That is not to say I don't like their games, but man I could go on for hours listing plot rehashes or names that they borrowed.

But their games are still fun :D

afro-elf

04-18-2003, 09:45 PM

http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8165

This is a picture of my character, but if he was fairer in complexion he might pass for Fingolfin in his rage.

afro-elf

04-19-2003, 12:32 AM

Another of Fingolfin

Ruinel

04-19-2003, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by afro-elf
Another of Fingolfin
Ooohh, the second one is hhhhhot. Don't much care for the green dreds on the first one, though. I've never much cared for dreds. (especially on white boys. What are they thinking?)

BeardofPants

04-19-2003, 06:20 PM

I saw this woman once with dreads. They looked amazing... She'd bleached them all white-blonde (and she had really fair skin), and had them piled on top of her head. Wow. Anyway, much agreed, second pic is definately sexy. :D

afro-elf

04-19-2003, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by Ruinel
Ooohh, the second one is hhhhhot. Don't much care for the green dreds on the first one, though. I've never much cared for dreds. (especially on white boys. What are they thinking?)

It SHOULD be dark hair and flowing locks, but that is the best I could find

Ruinel

04-20-2003, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by afro-elf
It SHOULD be dark hair and flowing locks, but that is the best I could find
;) Dark hair would be better. Too bad there aren't many dark skinned elf pics. *sad* keep looking, maybe you'll come across a really good one.