The End [Archive]

FrodoFriend

03-13-2003, 08:25 AM

I'm agreeing with the Ron/Hermione thing there. Lots of little hints in that direction . . . Voldemort killing Harry, I think not, however. I suspect Dumbledore will die at some point. It would suck if Hagrid were the one she killed off!! I don't know about Harry being related to Voldemort, that's awful Star Wars-y, but there has to be some sort of connection between them, otherwise why would Voldy have been so intent on killing Harry, even pushing Lily out of the way to get to him?

Ithilwin

03-13-2003, 08:56 AM

Ron will go out with Hermione,it's pretty obvious...the 4th book.I don't think Harry will die,I mean how can he?he's the star,but on the other hand we can never know...And there might be a connection between Harry's family and Voldemort,judging by Rowlings hints

Finrod Felagund

03-13-2003, 07:22 PM

What about Percy? I think either he'll die trying to stop Voldemort and somehow in the process end up breaking the law. or turn in his family for disobeying the ministry.

And Dumbledore might die too, but I don't think Rowling would kill off Ron. These kinds of kids books arer supposed to have happy endings.

Estel13

03-13-2003, 09:49 PM

I say Voldemort is somehow Harry's Grandfather or Uncle or something. Ron will NOT die, neither will Harry, Neville will, and Ron & Hermione will go out, as will Harry & Cho Chang. Oh ya, Hermione get's made a Prefect in Book 5. Later.......

Legolas_is_fit

03-14-2003, 01:36 PM

I reckon Harry and voldermolt are wizard brothers beacuse Voldermolt passed a bit of evil into harry when he was a baby and maybe that voldermolt is his real dad (i dunno im taking a guess)

ArwenEvenstar

03-14-2003, 07:12 PM

maybe voldemort is realted to the Dursley's or something

Adrian Baggins

03-14-2003, 08:21 PM

My predictions:

RON AND HERMIONIE GET MARRIED

Harry defeats Voldemort

Ginny and Colin marry

PERCY GOES EVIL

Harry's mom is related to V. (V. said Harry's mom needent have died, is that a hint)

Cho dies or never ever dates anyone because she loved Cedric so much

HArry meets another boy named Ron (maybe a third Creeve) who dies

Lupin comes back to Hogwarts

Snape befriends Harry and the others and makes up for years of letting Malfoy get away with anything (in the 5th or 6th book)

Malfoy fails Potions(6th year)

Malfoy's dad gets caught and Malfoy is expelled from his 7th year

Harry lives with Sirus and Petigrew is caught

ArwenEvenstar

03-14-2003, 10:31 PM

man that would be the perfect ending!!

Lady of Rohan

03-14-2003, 10:45 PM

AB= Do you know that or was it just a guess? Either way, it sounds like a great ending to me! :)

Estel13

03-15-2003, 07:35 PM

Great ending.(For the most part.):D ;)

JCL2

03-15-2003, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by Legolas_is_fit
I dont know if this a spoiler or not.
But what do you think is going to happen in the last book because ive heard that Ron goes out With hermione and Harry gets killed by voldamort (he who shall not be named)
But loads of people have been saying different things, sowhat do you think:confused: I think hagrid will kill Harry while trying to save him from VOLdAMORT.RON will run away crying and Hagrid will die because VOLDAMORT will attack him.

Fili

03-16-2003, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by Adrian Baggins
My predictions:

PERCY GOES EVIL

I quite agree..:)

samwiselvr2008

03-16-2003, 01:57 PM

Do you meen the fith book, or the last one that she will ever write? If you are talking about the fith book, unless that is the last one she is planning to write, Harry Potter probally won't die, anyone else can though. Imagine Hermonie or Ron dieing, that would really be a twist. I think that maybe in the fith book (or at least I'm hoping) that Sirus Black will be deemed good, and will adopt HP, and that HP will never visit the Dursleys again, though he may go back into the muggle world and see the Dursleys somewhere. I also hope that that will happen in the last book writen, whichever one, it'll be good with me, just to know that HP is free.

Celebriel

03-16-2003, 04:39 PM

Someone must die, eventually. One of the main characters. Not Dumbledore, it'd be like killing Gandalf (Dumbledore not worthy of comparison, but it is the only one I can think of). What about Snape?

I remember someone finding it odd that Harry and Draco's mothers have flower-names.

Too much to think about!

:: Buries face in LOTR ::

samwiselvr2008

03-16-2003, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Celebriel
Someone must die, eventually. One of the main characters. Not Dumbledore, it'd be like killing Gandalf (Dumbledore not worthy of comparison, but it is the only one I can think of). What about Snape?

I remember someone finding it odd that Harry and Draco's mothers have flower-names.

Too much to think about!

:: Buries face in LOTR ::
Haha, yes, always retreat to LOTR! What was Draco's mom's name?
and, as I asked before, are we talking about the end of the whole series or just the end of the fith book?

Finmandos12

03-17-2003, 09:19 PM

I think hagrid will kill Harry while trying to save him from VOLdAMORT.RON will run away crying and Hagrid will die because VOLDAMORT will attack him.

Sounds good to me. With one small addition: Hogwarts gets destroyed by a group of evil dragons that eat Hermione and Ron when they try to kiss!:D :D

Lanelf

03-25-2003, 06:17 AM

I'd be ecstatic if Colin Creevey died! Yes, I'm nasty and evil, but it's so much FUN!
I hope Harry gives up on Cho, particularly now Cedric's dead, and Ron and Hermione are so going to get together.
And I kind of hope that Harry will die a heroic kind of death in Book 7 battling You-Know-Who to the death. It'd be a good end. I'd cry, but it would be good.
Lanelf.

Blackboar

03-25-2003, 06:43 AM

I don't think that v will be related to harry i reckon hagrid his i dont know why its my womanly instincts thats telling me.

TinuvielChild

03-28-2003, 11:31 PM

samwiselvr: Draco's mum's name is Narcissa.

Don't know who JKR's going to kill off, but I know who it won't be:

Snape (too valuable as a spy)
Harry (2 more books to go)
Hermione (same reason as Harry)
Ron (see above)

The rest are fair game; Hagrid could have problems with the giants, Draco could be killed as a Death Eater, Dumbledore could be killed by a fatal error (I know, he doesn't make errors, but it could happen).

Tanoliel

03-30-2003, 02:43 PM

Right. Um. Let's have a go, here....

Draco won't die yet. He will have to join up with the Death Eaters, but then in Bk 7, Harry and Moldywart will have a big climactic battle and Draco will end up saving Harry and dying then. Or something like that. I predict that they will have to work together to make something work in Bk 6 or 7.

Ron/Hermione....it's kind of obvious. :rolleyes: :D

Harry / no one as of yet. There isn't anyone that fits....Hermione will most likely end up with Ron, and there's no one else that he's close to. Any other girl (or boy, but I doubt JK would write that...too bad :D) would have to displace Ron and Herm AND Sirius AND his parents in his heart, to use a sappy term.

Neville will play an important role somehow....everyone will think he's useless but he will remember something v. v. important and be smarter than people give him credit for.

Dumbledore...I don't think he's EVIL, per se (stupid stupid generalizations), but he HAS got something up that sleeve of his besides one arm.

Also...someone (don't recall who) mentioned that kid's books will have a happy ending--but JK has already pointed out that it's getting darker and darker (not to mention longer and longer...:)) and it wouldn't be at all suprising if someone close to Harry died.

Tano

Legolas_is_fit

04-05-2003, 03:07 PM

I agree Draco wont be killed off snice he has joined with the death eaters (read book 4)
but I think Sirius Black (read book 3) should come back and help harry in a 'quest' and Dumldore should be involed a bit more as well snice he is the head. Harry should die because of the poison put into him by v (you no who) should start to posion his mind and bring him on to the dark side with v then they become the most powerful wizards and they go killing inacent people and then they try and kill a baby and he reflects it (like harry did) and they both die.
I hope you got where i was going...

analyveth

04-16-2003, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by Tanoliel

Draco won't die yet. He will have to join up with the Death Eaters, but then in Bk 7, Harry and Moldywart will have a big climactic battle and Draco will end up saving Harry and dying then. Or something like that. I predict that they will have to work together to make something work in Bk 6 or 7.

yup, reckon so, there's got to be some sort of family betrayal on draco's part, noone is born evil, nature/nurture kind of thing. hmm, predictions in general, not just for book five:

dumbledore dies trying to save harry or vice versa :(
percy goes evil (v probable) but is then redeemed
neville saves key character
the mysterious reason that harry is safe with the dursley's is revealed to be the crazy old lady with cats is v powerful witch in style of dumbledore's sister or something
harry discovers twin that was hidden at birth
voldemort's star wars stylee revelation of some kind of parentage
snape dies saving harry

...hmmm, these are getting a bit outlandish

gimli7410

04-16-2003, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by Adrian Baggins
My predictions:

RON AND HERMIONIE GET MARRIED

Harry defeats Voldemort

Ginny and Colin marry

PERCY GOES EVIL

Harry's mom is related to V. (V. said Harry's mom needent have died, is that a hint)

Cho dies or never ever dates anyone because she loved Cedric so much

HArry meets another boy named Ron (maybe a third Creeve) who dies

Lupin comes back to Hogwarts

Snape befriends Harry and the others and makes up for years of Malfoy fails Potions(6th year)letting Malfoy get away with anything (in the 5th or 6th book)

Malfoy's dad gets caught and Malfoy is expelled from his 7th year

Harry lives with Sirus and Petigrew is caught

sounds like you have read the book. you seem so sure.

nessawen

04-18-2003, 04:06 PM

i think that Draco and Harry will become friends and then Draco will marry Hermione! hehehe very strange, i know!:D :D

SamwiseGamgeeOTS

04-22-2003, 08:33 AM

i'm thinking that harry and draco fight to the death.......wait...childrens book. maybe not. maybe they'll become friends? who knows. maybe somehow v will work through Draco to kill Harry.....I think i'm goin along with the ending of harry dying...even though I would also cry.:( but, I always wanted Harry and Herm to hook up! I always thought that that would be better than her and Ron...GRR! i dunno. I do know that I would absolutly love to see Lupin back at Hogwarts. I always pictured him as Igore (spelling?) from Young Frankenstien....It just seemed to fit his character.

Finrod Felagund

05-07-2003, 11:56 AM

Who said Dumbledore's not comparable to Gandalf? Well...I agree but Dumbledore, I thought, is possibly the best Harry Potter character. And Richard Harris was brilliant for that role in the movie.

Tanoliel

05-07-2003, 07:44 PM

Meh. Within the HP universe, Dumbledore is definetly cool. Very cool. And I am very sad about Richard Harris's death...:(

But I also get the feeling that dear ol' Bumblebee won't be around at the end for whatever reason.

tano

LadyGreenleaf22

05-08-2003, 05:38 PM

I heard a rumor about that Ron, Harry, and Hermione will all be made prefects. I also read that one of the main characters will be a teacher at Hogwarts...Hermione would be my guess...Maybe Harry will be Headmaster?

Elf Girl

05-08-2003, 07:58 PM

My theory:

Cornelius fudge goes the same ways as Barty Crouch, Sr. Percy follows, but he's a Weasly, so he doesn't die, and he sees the light in the end.

Ron/Hermione, of course. Victor Krum dies in the fourth book to allow this.

Aunt Petunia is a witch who rejected going to Hogwarts.

Harrry is related to the Weaslys. (Ruling out Harry/Ginny.)

Harry is the heir to Voldemort.

Colin Creevy dies to save Harry.

Neville does something extremely foolish, like attacking Voldemort, but survives.

SNAPE GETS THE DARK ARTS JOB!

Gilderoy Lockhart reenters the story, messes things up.

Voldemort is defeated by the fact that Harry's blood runs in his veins.

Tanoliel

05-10-2003, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Elf Girl
My theory:
Tano's comments like this....

Cornelius fudge goes the same ways as Barty Crouch, Sr. Percy follows, but he's a Weasly, so he doesn't die, and he sees the light in the end.

I can buy that. Percy definetly smelled suspicious. He's a little too interested in his job and etc....

Ron/Hermione, of course. Victor Krum dies in the fourth book to allow this.

Yes....I agree on that point.

Aunt Petunia is a witch who rejected going to Hogwarts.

Not so sure about this...It doesn't quite seem like she has such a "dark past" so to speak. It would be interesting but I don't think it's set up quite the right way so far for that to make sense.

Harrry is related to the Weaslys. (Ruling out Harry/Ginny.)

Lily did have red hair...:) That would be cute, I think. But not really close...like Lily was the fourth cousin of Molly twice removed or something like that.

Harry is the heir to Voldemort.

Vooosh....heir to what? It wouldn't be suprising...but I hope she doesn't do it.

Colin Creevy dies to save Harry.

I wouldn't be at all suprised by this, either.

Neville does something extremely foolish, like attacking Voldemort, but survives.

Right! He turns out to be not so stupid as everyone thought he was....I have deep hopes for Mr. Neville. I think he's going to turn out very crucial.

SNAPE GETS THE DARK ARTS JOB!

Ooh, no.....okay, it would be cool, but then who would teach potions? I know everyone says he hates it, but still...he's such a crazy teacher. :) I want Lupin to come back and teach DADA.

Gilderoy Lockhart reenters the story, messes things up.

I thought he went insane? Ah, well...that's never stopped anyone before. :) Maybe Moldywart uses him as a stupid minion-goon. :)

Voldemort is defeated by the fact that Harry's blood runs in his veins.
Yes, that and a combination of other factors. Can't wait to see!

Elf Girl

05-11-2003, 02:20 PM

Neville will be teaching potions, Rowling's already said he'll be teaching something.

As for Petunia being a witch, well, I'm not sure on that, but I just think it would work nicely.

See the heir to Voldemort thread for why I think Harry's his heir.

Remember, deep in the fourth book, when Harry tells Dumbledore that Voldemort took his blood? And it said:
For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph it Dumbledore's eyes.
Dumbledore know it will be the Dark Lord's downfall.

O, forgot one: Dumbledore will die in the seventh book, naturally.

Lanelf

05-11-2003, 06:26 PM

I had one idea a while ago about why Petunia and Vernon hate wizards so much.
Maybe it's not actually what they think but an idea the Ministry of Magic gave them, so they wouldn't seek to exploit magic.
Lanelf.

Nurvingiel

05-12-2003, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by Elf Girl
Neville will be teaching potions, Rowling's already said he'll be teaching something. Neville is more likely to teach Herbology, which he's good at. He hates potions! (Muggle equivelant - Biology rules over Chemistry!)

I'm really scared one of the Weasleys are going to be killed. I don't know if I could handle that, I love the Weasleys!

Who else wants to see Harry/Ginny? I sure do!

SamwiseGamgeeOTS

05-25-2003, 07:08 PM

i'm for the Harry/Ginny thing.

but, I wouldn't wanna be Ron though. that would suck. having ur best friend dating ur sister. good times.

but then again...having ur best friends dating each other...that's also good times.

these books are just good times. rock on.

Rána Eressëa

06-01-2003, 07:03 PM

I'm not sure, but I have a hope that the Four founders of Hogwarts serve as the connection between Harry and Voldemort. Voldemort is an Heir - maybe Potter is one too? They're not going to be blood related. Far too Star-Warsy indeed. That would be a disappointment for me.

Ron and Hermione are at some point getting together.

Voldemort will die, but Harry is debatable.

I want to learn more about the Malfoy family. For some reason I think they have veela blood in them. :cool:

gimli7410

06-01-2003, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by Elf Girl
Neville will be teaching potions, Rowling's already said he'll be teaching something.

did she say this, was it in an interview or on a site.

O, forgot one: Dumbledore will die in the seventh book, naturally. [/B]

NOOOOO:mad: damn i dont want him to die. i want him to fight voldamort a bit before he dies

Nurvingiel

06-03-2003, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by Rána Eressëa
I'm not sure, but I have a hope that the Four founders of Hogwarts serve as the connection between Harry and Voldemort. Voldemort is an Heir - maybe Potter is one too? They're not going to be blood related. Far too Star-Warsy indeed. That would be a disappointment for me.
Oh just imagine my horror.

Final Battle between Voldemort and Harry Potter

Voldermort: Harry Potter, I am your father.

Harry: Nooo!!!

Voldemort cuts off Harry's hand. Harry kills Voldermort. Harry gets a robotic, oops, I mean magical hand.

I would cry. But Rowling wouldn't do that to us. She already explained that Harry and Voldemort have similarities because Voldemort transferred some powers to Harry when he attacked him.

Fimbrethil

06-10-2003, 02:56 PM

Ok I'm gonna post something here that will make you all hate me because I have yet to see it posted anywhere else. Sirius will die...because he got drunk...and feel off Buckbeak. My momma always told me never ride a flying animal when you're drunk.

Tanoliel

06-10-2003, 03:18 PM

You mean fall off? :)

I dunno...somehow I don't think he would be that stupid unless something really awful had happened and he got drunk to try and forget (which is also a stupid thing, so remember kids...don't drink and ride...er....yeah). Maybe someone cool died, like Dumbledore. Who knows.
Hey...just a couple weeks till HP5. Should be interesting.
tano

Adrian Baggins

06-20-2003, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by gimli7410
sounds like you have read the book. you seem so sure.

I haven't read the book but my friend watched a documentary by J.K. and she said there would be unexpected deaths and then muttered Ron, but then said something about Ron living in the end so I think it is a different Ron, she also hinted at Percy going evil and Hedwig too, Hedwig comes back, but not Percy, Ron and Hermy are made 4 each other, so r Ginny and Collin, I mean, can u say Harry fan club and I think I explained everything else pretty well

Nurvingiel

06-25-2003, 04:48 PM

ummmmmm... :confused: I'll just wait until I can read the 5th book. No spoilers please! *uber anticipation*

I will rage if one of the Weasley's is killed. Rage. In many fanfics I've read, this is the tragic event that happens to Harry.

Tanoliel

06-25-2003, 09:52 PM

Poo...no spoilers? I had an idea....:(
Ah well.
Suffice to say that I think a certain someone is not as gone as might be and that this certain someone might be coming back. I just think so. Because it would be cool. :)

tano

Elf Girl

11-02-2003, 12:42 PM

Okay, I thought I'd drag up this thread and address my previous predictions. (MAJOR spoilers! If you don't like 'em, don't read 'em!)

The predictions in plain text, my comments in italics.

Cornelius fudge goes the same ways as Barty Crouch, Sr. Percy follows, but he's a Weasly, so he doesn't die, and he sees the light in the end.
Dead right, although we don't know the last bit yet, and Fudge doesn't die. (yet)

Ron/Hermione, of course. Victor Krum dies in the fifth book to allow this.
Nope, not yet. I have hopes for the sixth, though.

Aunt Petunia is a witch who rejected going to Hogwarts.
I think this is quite likely, what with the stuff in the first chapter. Maybe she even went to Hogwarts!

Harrry is related to the Weaslys. (Ruling out Harry/Ginny.)
Still think it's quite possible.

Harry is the heir to Voldemort.
Less likely now that we know about the prophecy.

Colin Creevy dies to save Harry.
Still think this'll happen.

Neville does something extremely foolish, like attacking Voldemort, but survives.
Again, still possible.

SNAPE GETS THE DARK ARTS JOB!
I'm waiting for the seventh book for this, but I'm pretty sure it'll happen.

Gilderoy Lockhart reenters the story, messes things up.
Kind of right. Although it was only a cameo, I think it's to remind us that he's around... so we don't forget him when he comes back.

Voldemort is defeated by the fact that Harry's blood runs in his veins.
Still believe it!

I also have a new prediction... remember how Neville broke his wand at the end of OotP? I think it's his wand that's been making him such a bad wizard, so when he gets his new wand, he'll be a great wizard.

Sween

11-02-2003, 01:49 PM

I think the angle that she has been trying to get around to is basically because of the way Voldermort attacked Harry when he was a kid there lifes are linked. Dont forget to come back to life Voldermort used Harrys blood and Wormtounges blood (the latter i think been more important as he is in debt to Harry i think this may very well come into play)! Dumbledor said as much when harry said this to him at the end of the 3rd book. I have also allways felt this linked in with the gleam of trumpth in his eye remark! Dumbledor knows how to get rid of vldermort but he isnt telling anyone yet.

As for Harry dieing in the end i think this likley his life just seems too linked with voldermort and i can see him undergoing a lot of trauma to get rid of him. Very much a la frodo.

Aunt Petunia is a character that facinates me and i think she will come into play a lot more and obvosoly has a lot to hide.

I can see Voldermort attacking other peoples family i think he wont nessarly target the students themselves. But people like Hermonies perents would be a good target and in with what he used to do. Muggle killing seems to be of been his hobby. I personally would like this anglke very much its nice and dark and would really set things up well.

As for the whole Ron/Harminy thing they are getting a bit older now i think they should start been a bit more mature. This is a bit of a failing of the books in my opinion the main character dont seem to be getting ne more mature compared to how the older charater were played in the earlier books!

Im sure there loads of other stuff to go into the books but my head hurts :p

eowyngirl14

11-02-2003, 02:59 PM

personaly i think that Voldie is going to kill harry. by hitting him in the head or something nonmagical like that. ya, voldie is going to get so fed up at lookign at Harry's scar he is goign to throw a couldren at harry wich knocks him out. then Harry dies.:p

ron and luna are going to go out, not ron and hermione (that idiot)

Tanoliel

11-02-2003, 03:47 PM

Interesting points, Elf Girl....

I have to say I still think it's going to be Ron/Hermione, simply because they bicker SO much...it's pretty obvious. I think if Luna were to end up with one of the trio it would be Harry...but I also have a hard time seeing Harry with anyone at all, because of all his life problems, not to be so dramatic, but they set him apart.
I see him and Luna getting closer as friends--they seem like the type to get along like that.

Aunt Petunia...definetly something going on there. I expect there is some fear of herself in her fear of wizards...:)

I still believe that Neville will become increasingly important--he already did; remember he was with the "special people" at the end of Bk 5, the trio and Luna and him! So I think he'll be very important in the final big Harry-Voldie fight.

I doubt JK will kill off Harry...the kind of author she is, it just doesn't seem quite like her from what I've seen of her books.

I would not at all be suprised if one or both of Hermione's parents died at the hand of Voldie. This could be the event that brings Ron and Hermione together--and hopefully make them a little more mature, too. :rolleyes:

Right. I shall stop babbling now...all I want to know is how long do we have to wait to find all this out?

Tano

eowyngirl14

11-02-2003, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by Tanoliel

I would not at all be suprised if one or both of Hermione's parents died at the hand of Voldie. This could be the event that brings Ron and Hermione together--and hopefully make them a little more mature, too. :rolleyes:

Right. I shall stop babbling now...all I want to know is how long do we have to wait to find all this out?

Tano

i wouldnt mind if ron and hermione ended up together that way.. that would be kinda nice. good question!, how long DO we have to wait?