Could Harry be Gryffindor's heir?

[durin's bane]

Many readers have been asking this! Post what you think and give your reason why!
Well, I think he is. Remember, when he got his wand, the sparks that came out of it were red and gold: Gryffindor's official colours. And his sign is Leo, and the symbol for that is a lion, the same animal for Gryffindor. He was able to pull Godric's sword out of the Sorting Hat, and only a true Gryffindor could have done it, like Dumbledor says. And, did you notice, that Harry used to live in GODRIC'S Hollow---the name Godric is the first name of the founder of Gryffindor House.

[Adrian Baggins]

I know this may sound odd, but I think that it is either Harry OR Hermionie, I mean, a witch with her skills had to have a very talented ancestor, so maybe... Harry could be the heir in lots of ways, I mean, Slytherin HATES Gryffindor, Voldimort hates Harry, Voldimort=heir of Slytherin house, need I say more?

[Fili]

i agree

[gimli7410]

yea but the sorting hat always said he could be great in slytherin u never kno if he went there he probably could have done better then in gryffindor

[Lanelf]

I know this may sound odd, but I think that it is either Harry OR Hermionie, I mean, a witch with her skills had to have a very talented ancestor, so maybe... But Hermione's Muggle-born. I don't know if it counts when they had a witch/wizard for a grandfather or something, but I'm sure she wouldn't be called a muggle-born if she did have a magic ancestor.
I don't know why, but I think it'd be kind of boring if Harry did turn out to be Gryffindor's heir. It just seems predictable to me.
Maybe he should be the Heir of Hufflepuff instead. ;)
Lanelf.

[gimli7410]

harry could also speak parseltoungue

[FrodoFriend]

I think it's highly possible, and it could also explain why Voldemort was so intent on killing him in the first place. Maybe there's some prophecy about the Heir of Gryffindor defeating the dark lord... Heh heh, I like prophecies...

[Estel13]

Originally posted by durin's bane
Many readers have been asking this! Post what you think and give your reason why!
Well, I think he is. Remember, when he got his wand, the sparks that came out of it were red and gold: Gryffindor's official colours. And his sign is Leo, and the symbol for that is a lion, the same animal for Gryffindor. He was able to pull Godric's sword out of the Sorting Hat, and only a true Gryffindor could have done it, like Dumbledor says. And, did you notice, that Harry used to live in GODRIC'S Hollow---the name Godric is the first name of the founder of Gryffindor House.

I totally agree with you. I never even THOUGHT of the Godric's Hollow thing, stupid me who thought she knew everything about Harry Potter.:rolleyes:

[Hanza]

durins bane firstly i think youre avatar is the cutest ever even though tom felton is better!
secondly i think you are probably right there are a lot of things pinting to it.It just seems too predictable . Rowling will probably make it twist at the last minute.:rolleyes:

[durin's bane]

Thank-you! :)

And, gimli7410, while you are right, the reason Harry speaks Parsletongue is that when Voldemort disappeared after he tried to kill Harry, some of his magic rubbed off on him. This is probably the reason the Sorting Hat said Harry would make a good Slytherin, also paired with the fact that Harry's father James could've been in Slytherin House.

[gimli7410]

oh yea. well i havent read the books in a while:D

[durin's bane]

I haven't either. I'm just starting Philosopher's Stone again, but I haven't read much of it because of school and stuff. :)

[Adrian Baggins]

Originally posted by Lanelf
But Hermione's Muggle-born. I don't know if it counts when they had a witch/wizard for a grandfather or something, but I'm sure she wouldn't be called a muggle-born if she did have a magic ancestor.
I don't know why, but I think it'd be kind of boring if Harry did turn out to be Gryffindor's heir. It just seems predictable to me.
Maybe he should be the Heir of Hufflepuff instead. ;)
Lanelf.

Hermionie is a MUDBLOOD (excuse me but I am not making fun of her, she rox, I'm just making a point, I mean this in a non-mean way), therefore, she has muggle parents, but she has magic in her blood somewhere that was, in the words of MAlfoy. made dirty by a muggle. That does not mean she has no magic ancestory. Harry's mom, was in fact, a MB(still not being mean).
I rest my Hermionie case, although, the chances of it being her are slim.

Harry, if you will remember correctly, was a TRUE GRYFFENDOR! he pulled out GODRIC'S SWORD!! He is the most likely person now that I think about it.

[Estel13]

I am in complete agreement with ya, Adrian! Did you people know that Book 5 is 800+ pages long?
Must...Get...New...Book...If...It...Kills...Me...
;) :p :D

[Daughter of Elros]

On Harrypotter.com, a bunch of us came up with a way for him to have been both the heir of slytherin and the heir of Gryffndor. IT was very complicated though, involved a bunch of diagraming, and I no longer remember how we arrived at out conclusion- was something about Lily's character being very vague.

-DoE

[Lanelf]

Originally posted by Adrian Baggins
Hermionie is a MUDBLOOD (excuse me but I am not making fun of her, she rox, I'm just making a point, I mean this in a non-mean way), therefore, she has muggle parents, but she has magic in her blood somewhere that was, in the words of MAlfoy. made dirty by a muggle. That does not mean she has no magic ancestory. Oh, I always thought that a mudblood (not being mean either!) was just a muggle-born person with no magic ancestory but could do magic. *shrug* Guess I'll go reread again... after this series of books...
Lanelf.

[IronParrot]

Yes, I think Harry is an heir of Gryffindor, but only partly and indirectly so.

In terms of his status as the hero of the story, it's important for him to have some sort of stature - and there are already many clues that establish this relationship to Godric Gryffindor to be the case, as you've all pointed out.

However, one of the major themes of the Harry Potter series is that who you are is not determined by birthright, but rather by the choices you make as an individual. I think we have to balance the two concepts here.

What I'm saying is, yes, Harry is probably a descendent of Gryffindor - but in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't matter. In Rowling's universe, she makes it very clear that birthright never matters.

[sun-star]

Originally posted by IronParrot
However, one of the major themes of the Harry Potter series is that who you are is not determined by birthright, but rather by the choices you make as an individual. I think we have to balance the two concepts here.

What I'm saying is, yes, Harry is probably a descendent of Gryffindor - but in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't matter. In Rowling's universe, she makes it very clear that birthright never matters.

I agree with you that this is a central theme to the book. I can't remember the exact quote, but Dumbledore says something like "It is our choices which make us who we are, Harry". That's why I think it is unlikely that Hermione will turn out to have magical ancestory, because the three friends (one Muggle-born, one from an old wizarding family and one who had wizard parents but has lived with Muggles) represent three different kinds of people in the wizarding world. And it is their choice to join the side against Voldemort, not their blood, which determines who they are.

[Estel13]

Not to be rude or anything, but Lily Potter was a Mudblood, so Harry isn't quite a pure-blood wizard. What I always thought was funny was that Molly Weasley has a second cousin who's an accountant, of all things!

[Hanza]

My friend got me the 5th book for my b'day but now i have to wait ages til i get it

[Elf Girl]

Eru! Isn't it obvious that Harry is the heir of Slytherin? On his father's side, remember Voldemort said he only needed to kill Harry and his father, not Lily.

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Elf Girl
Eru! Isn't it obvious that Harry is the heir of Slytherin? On his father's side, remember Voldemort said he only needed to kill Harry and his father, not Lily.

Wouldn't that make more sense if Voldemort was the heir of Slytherin, and Harry was the heir of Gryffindor? It is said that the only reason Harry was exhibiting the so-called slytherin traits was because when Voldemort tried to kill him, he imbued some of his own talent in Harry. I've yet to see this otherwise. However, I guess it is a possibility... No one said the heir of slytherine had to be bad....

[TinuvielChild]

I think that it might be possible for Harry to be the heir to Gryffindor and to Slytherin, though probably only Gryffindor. It's also possible that Harry has some other wizarding blood/whatever through Lily; what would happen if a Squib had children who were also Squibs? And they had Squib children? They'd go through life as Muggles, until another witch/wizard were born. The more recent generations would probably have no idea that there is such a thing as magic, seeing as the wizarding family would effectively disown them; remember, Ron said something about "Mum has a second cousin who's an accountant, but we don't talk about him". Just a thought...


I actually think it possible that Hermione's Ravenclaw's heir. I mean, she's got the intelligence. There are oodles of fics out there where Godric and Rowena were romantically involved; this could explain how Hermione got into Gryffindor. Again, pure speculation. You know, at this point I almost don't want the 5th book to come out, because I've read so many fics that take place 5th year...:D

[Elf Girl]

Actually, I have another theory that Harry is related to the Weasleys. Both families have green eyes, after all.

And another theory that Aunt Petunia was sent a Hogwarts letter, but was scared and rejected it.

But back to the whole Slytherin/Gryffindor thing: It would give purpose to Harry's conflict in Book 2 about whether he belonged in Slytherin or Gryffindor. Also, in Book 1 Dumbledore said Harry was "not ready to hear" why Voldemort wanted to kill him. I don't think being the heir of Gryffindor would have such a dramatic effect on Harry that Dumbledore would have to wait, whereas being related to Voldemort definately would.

[SamwiseGamgeeOTS]

related to the Weasleys? hmmm. that's odd. never thought of that. But, I do think that he is related to Godric Gryffindor....somewhere along the line.

[Lanelf]

Originally posted by Elf Girl
Also, in Book 1 Dumbledore said Harry was "not ready to hear" why Voldemort wanted to kill him. I've heard that Dumbledore's going to explain everything to Harry in book 5. ****ing spoilers... only making me wait longer... *pout*
Lanelf.

[gimli7410]

does anyone know why she is taking so long to release the 5th book. shes really pissing me off right now

[Aragorn_of_the_west]

god!i am so jealous!!!*cant wait to get it to*
i dont think that Harry will be the hair of Griffindor- no concrete facts- just a stomach feeling- i just dont feel it would fit good into the stories*shrug*.

[durin's bane]

Originally posted by gimli7410
does anyone know why she is taking so long to release the 5th book. shes really pissing me off right now

You'll be happy to know that the fifth book is in publishing process and will be in stores June 21 this year. If you can't wait that long, then try pre-ordering it. I'd recommend using this site (http://www.mugglenet.com). I'm not sure if they're still open or not though, but it's worth a try.

[gimli7410]

why did she take so long though

[sun-star]

It takes a long time to write a book which people have such high expectations of.

[Elf Girl]

Yeah, since the fourth one didn't really hold together that well, she wanted to be really careful with the next one.

[durin's bane]

And because of these other three reasons:

1) She quickly wrote the seventh book to make sure the fifth and sixth would tie-in with the ending.
2) Many bratty people have been trying to get rich quick by sueing her for the reason "She stole Harry Potter from me! It was my idea!"
3) She has a life too (though a lot of us don't realize that because we tend to think good authors spend 24-7 writing). She has to take care of her daughter, cook and clean, pay bills and things like that.

[Elf Girl]

And of course because she bought a castle, got married, and had a new baby son.

[gimli7410]

you know whats great about writing a really great book is that if it is good uyou can make so much money. rowling is richer then the queen. ozzy took 30 years just to become worth 52 million dollars and she did that in like 10 years.

[Aragorn_of_the_west]

*laugh*, yeah, Rowling really did a great job.
hopefully- the next book/s will be as good as the last four.
if they will- she will be evan richer!thats also thanx to the all the things that are made about HP- movies, cards, pupets ext:rolleyes: .

[sun-star]

Originally posted by gimli7410
ozzy took 30 years just to become worth 52 million dollars and she did that in like 10 years.

I think it's about six years, so it's even more impressive :)

[Elf Girl]

Nah, it took her 6 years just to right the first two.

[Linaewen]

Originally posted by durin's bane
And because of these other three reasons:

1) She quickly wrote the seventh book to make sure the fifth and sixth would tie-in with the ending.
2) Many bratty people have been trying to get rich quick by sueing her for the reason "She stole Harry Potter from me! It was my idea!"
3) She has a life too (though a lot of us don't realize that because we tend to think good authors spend 24-7 writing). She has to take care of her daughter, cook and clean, pay bills and things like that.

Many bratty people? I thought it was just the one? That woman who did Larry Potter or sommat?

How did this thread get to talk about Rowling's personal life, anyway?

[Rána Eressëa]

I really like the idea of Harry being Gryffindor's heir. Mostly because I want more stuff related to the heirs when so little is known about them.