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FrodoFriend
03-01-2003, 06:46 AM
What happened to Túrin's sword after he killed himself on it? And what about it's original twin blade, Anguirel, made from the same meteor? Were they both lost somewhere along the way?
I'm searching for an excuse to have part of either Gurthang (Anglachel) or Anguirel survive into the Third Age of Middle Earth. Is there any basis for this?
Sister Golden Hair
03-01-2003, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by FrodoFriend
What happened to Túrin's sword after he killed himself on it? And what about it's original twin blade, Anguirel, made from the same meteor? Were they both lost somewhere along the way?
I'm searching for an excuse to have part of either Gurthang (Anglachel) or Anguirel survive into the Third Age of Middle Earth. Is there any basis for this? IIRC, Gurthang was buried with Turin. As for its mate, I don't recall it being mentioned what happened to it.
Lalaith
03-01-2003, 01:37 PM
I don't get the point of giving names to swords.
Lefty Scaevola
03-01-2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Lalaith
I don't get the point of giving names to swords.
Besides the cultrual value of naming artifact and heirlooms, and the morale value of naming weapons (a name painted onto most mordern tanks and aircraft) it was likely important for placing spells onto the weapon to make it more effective. Much such magic in many cultures and mythologies needs a 'true name' to be effective.
Halbarad of the North
03-26-2003, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
IIRC, Gurthang was buried with Turin. As for its mate, I don't recall it being mentioned what happened to it.
Gurthang was buried with Turin, but it also broke in two after Turin killed himself with it
Sister Golden Hair
03-27-2003, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by Halbarad of the North
Gurthang was buried with Turin, but it also broke in two after Turin killed himself with it I know that.
Lefty Scaevola
03-27-2003, 05:55 PM
Elric of Melnibone got it.
Anglorfin
04-10-2003, 10:25 PM
Didn't Eol himself carry the other sword? And if so I would assume it was lost in Gondolin.
Mirahzi
04-11-2003, 12:33 AM
Anguirel, the mate of Anglachel, was stolen by Maeglin when he departed to Gondolin. It may have been lost in the fall of Gondolin or even taken from Maeglin when he was captured by the Enemy.
To answer the original query, I don't think it's likely that either survived.
Mirahzi
04-11-2003, 12:33 AM
Double post.
Anglorfin
04-11-2003, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by Mirahzi
Anguirel, the mate of Anglachel, was stolen by Maeglin when he departed to Gondolin. It may have been lost in the fall of Gondolin or even taken from Maeglin when he was captured by the Enemy.
To answer the original query, I don't think it's likely that either survived.
Oyeah I forgot about Maeglin stealing it. I knew Eol didn't give it away though and in either case it probably was lost in Gondolin.
Lefty Scaevola
05-16-2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Mirahzi
Anguirel, the mate of Anglachel, was stolen by Maeglin when he departed to Gondolin. Stealing your father's sword is highly Oedipal.
I'd say Maeglin had more than a few problems...
Anglorfin
06-07-2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by FrodoFriend
I'm searching for an excuse to have part of either Gurthang (Anglachel) or Anguirel survive into the Third Age of Middle Earth. Is there any basis for this?
Why not just say that Eol made more swords in secret, or kept them with the Dwarves or something.
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