Dwarves.

[gollum9630]

Do you think that the dwarves would have been any help at all in the battle at gondor.

[markedel]

They were helping-fightingoff Sauron's northern army at the lonely mountain.

[gollum9630]

yah, but what about in the battle of gondor.

[Elf Girl]

If they hadn't been fighting at the Lonely Mountain, the "battle of gondor" as you put it might have been lost.

[gollum9630]

not just the ones ot lonely mountain, but what if other dwarves went and helped out at the battle of gondor.

[Blackboar]

Dwarves are good fighters and they would of helped out quite alot, but they had their hands full at the Lonely mountain and were busy there!

[Elf Girl]

Originally posted by gollum9630
battle of gondor.
Do you mean the Battle of Pelannor Fields, or is there some "battle of Gondor" that I'm unaware of?

[Lady of Rohan]

Originally posted by Elf Girl
Do you mean the Battle of Pelannor Fields, or is there some "battle of Gondor" that I'm unaware of?

I think that he was refering to the Battle of Pelannor feilds.

The dwarves would probably been a great help if they wern't busy.

[gollum9630]

Yes I am reffering to the battle of Pelannor fields

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Not to nitpick, but I thought it was Pelennor, not Pelannor? Or am I wrong? :confused:

[Elf Girl]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Not to nitpick, but I thought it was Pelennor, not Pelannor? Or am I wrong? :confused:
I'm sure you're right, I can never spell anything right.

[samwiselvr2008]

I think that they would have, weather they would decide to joun the "good" side or the "bad" side, would be in question, but eather way, they would help, weather they helped the "right" side or not, they would still help someone.

[gollum9630]

I can never spell anyways

[Nurvingiel]

Of course they'd be a help! The defenders of Minis Tirith needed all the help they could get. Most, if not all, the Dwarves would join the good guys.

But, as was already pointed out, they still helped by occupying some of Sauron's forces in the North. However, Sauron did that so the Dwarves wouldn't be able to fight at Pelannor.

[gollum9630]

so even sauron feared the dwarves. It just proves how good they would be in helping at the battle of Pelannor fields

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by samwiselvr2008
I think that they would have, weather they would decide to joun the "good" side or the "bad" side, would be in question, but eather way, they would help, weather they helped the "right" side or not, they would still help someone.

I don't agree with that. Dwarves were, as a whole, on the 'good' side. They may have been a little greedy and/or self-centered at times, but look at the Noldor! Hardly perfect. But how many people think they would have fought on the side of Morgoth? I believe he mentioned a few Dwarves being allied with Orcs in TH, but that's a few, and allied with Orcs (big difference between allying with them and allying with the greatest force of evil on the world at the time). And also, don't forget the Dwarves at the Council of Elrond.

[markedel]

Only the house of Durin fought for Elendil and Gil-galad

[durin's bane]

Actually, the Dwarves were already helping at the Battle of Pelennor Fields. They weren't there, but they were helping by holding off some of Saurons forces in the Lonely Mountain. Plus, don't forget about Gimli! Wasn't he at the Pelennor fields too?

[#1GaMGeeGuRL]

I though dwarves cared little for the doings of Men. They wouldn't have been there even if they weren't busy in the Lonely Mountain. And no I'm not anti-dwarf or anything, my comment was just looking at their temperment.

[afro-elf]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
I don't agree with that. Dwarves were, as a whole, on the 'good' side. They may have been a little greedy and/or self-centered at times, but look at the Noldor! Hardly perfect. But how many people think they would have fought on the side of Morgoth? I believe he mentioned a few Dwarves being allied with Orcs in TH, but that's a few, and allied with Orcs (big difference between allying with them and allying with the greatest force of evil on the world at the time). And also, don't forget the Dwarves at the Council of Elrond.


There is a quote that says " Elves are the only races never to have willingly to serve Sauron.


But I think that there were Sindar who served as Morgoths spies.I though dwarves cared little for the doings of Men.


They were allied with the men of Dale.

[#1GaMGeeGuRL]

That's different. They lived so close it would be kinda hard. But if they had a strong alliance why didn't the King Under the Mountain have some of the Dale-men go to help?

[markedel]

The men and dwarves fought side by side in the North.

[#1GaMGeeGuRL]

But this isn't about that is it? It's about Pellenor Fields (or that 'battle in Gondor' that guy refers to) and dwarves were NOT there.

[durin's bane]

They weren't there, but I think they were holding off some of Sauron's forces up north so the soldiers at the Pelennor wouldn't be out numbered or something.

[Radagast The Brown]

Well, they were anyway. I think they were attacked by Sauron's forces too. But it did helped Gondor, I guess, because they won.

[azalea]

They were also REALLY far away and it isn't as if the two countries had messengers going back and forth so that they each knew exactly what was happening at all times in the other place.

[The Lady of Ithilien]

Gimli arrived at the Battle of the Pelennor Field with Aragorn, having ridden with him in the Grey Company.

The dwarves would have been of great help -- somehow I think they would have been able to do something about the technology that dug those trenches and fire pits, and built those seige towers. And had the armies entered Minas Tirith, their presence in the city might have been decisive, as they were so familiar with fighting in such close quarters because of the Goblin and Dwarf wars.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by afro-elf
There is a quote that says " Elves are the only races never to have willingly to serve Sauron.


Yes, I said, 'As a whole'. But OT: I dont think the Woses ever did, did they?

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