Elrond

[Eowyn, Lady of Rohan]

I don't like elrond because he turned into a sort of father from 'eight simple rules for dateing my elf daughter!!!' Peter Jackson destroyed him and Arwen. In the same movie!!! ;)

[Evenstar1400]

yeah that father daughter bond was kinda ruined. it made him seem alot nastier in the movie.

(elrond+purple=gack!)

[Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn]

yea, he did sorta kill elrond.....

but the secret diaries are sooooo funny

[WallRocker]

I think Elrond was prtrayed well in the movie. BTW, this really belongs in the LotR movies forum:)

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I don't think he was portrayed well, and yes, it does. :) Otherwise, how would BB be able to inform us that PJ's vision of ME is the only that matters? :eek:

EDIT: accidentally said don't think he was portrayed poorly, instead of don't think he was portrayed well. See title for more info.

[Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn]

elrond was played well by the actor.....but the script for him wasnt that good

[Eowyn, Lady of Rohan]

Ok, sorry, i forgot that it would belong in the movie thread. I think that he was ok in the book though. They didn't do a great job on him in the movie

[Elf Girl]

I wonder how they will do his last meeting with Arwen... If they did it like in the books, it would contradict the charecter PJ has given him.

[Evenstar1400]

elrond was just this happy guy who loved his life and his family.... but in the movie he seems so dark and mysterious

[Insidious Rex]

Originally posted by Evenstar1400
elrond was just this happy guy who loved his life and his family.... but in the movie he seems so dark and mysterious

well i dont know about that. I think all the elves (or at least all the elf leaders) sort of ooze this graceful sadness because of what is fated for them. I didnt see him as happy go lucky at all. plus hes an elf and all elves have a bit of high and mightyness to them. especially someone as old and learned as Elrond.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Moving to Lord of the Rings movie forum.

[Artanis]

I don't think Elrond's feelings for Arwen and her relationship with Aragorn in the movie was ooc from the book, but they did spell it out too clearly imo. I would like it better if it had been done more subtle.

[Gorhiriel]

If you remember he told Aragorn he would not leave his daughter in Middle-Earth to die. I think he just wanted the best for her.

BTW, Hugo Weaving plays the part perfectly. AUSTRALIANS UNITE!!

[Nurvingiel]

I don't know if Hugo Weaving was perfect... maybe if he changed his voice slightly. The second time I saw FotR I kept thinking "The Matrix has you Frodo."

[Miranda]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
I don't know if Hugo Weaving was perfect... maybe if he changed his voice slightly. The second time I saw FotR I kept thinking "The Matrix has you Frodo."

I would have prefered to be thinking about the matrix than what I was thinking about when I saw him in those purple roads! MITZI!!!!! All I could see was him in his drag outfits from Priscilla Queen of the desert. I did think he acted the part well though. Mx

[Lefty Scaevola]

I do not think that Jackson understood the concept that elves fenerally were most psysically (to both human and elf taste) beings in the world, and particularly that Galadriel was one of the 3 most beutiful person in the history of the world. Hugo weaving is a bit ruugh and craggy for Elrond and Blanchet is not one of the most beautiful actresses in our world. Haldir is a little odd looking in the face as well. (Bloom at least seems have have met great approval in this reagard). While beauty may seem of small note in the modern priority of things, it was a very important symbol in JRRT's literature and also was to be the main phsycial distinguishment between human and elf (rather than funny ears). In a visual medium like the big screen, I would have thought Jackson would have paid more attention to what visual motifs there were in the story.

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
... Galadriel was one of the 3 most beutiful person in the history of the world.Those 3 would be Galadriel, Luthien and Arwen, non?

[Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn]

i think kate blanchet was perfect for the part...she just radiats "galadrial" or maybe that was the light they were shining on her.....

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by Artanis
Those 3 would be Galadriel, Luthien and Arwen, non?

oui

[Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn]

i dont understand this french!!!! im in spanish!

[Nurvingiel]

They said ,"Si!"

Cate Blanchet was... perfect! I think she was the perfect Galadriel, in that no one could have played the part better. And it helps that she's beautiful.

Hugo Weaving looked Elrond-y, I just he sounded Agent Smith-y sometimes. And some of his lines were out of character.

[Insidious Rex]

Originally posted by Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn
i dont understand this french!!!! im in spanish!

Si (EDIT: woops. You beat me to it Nurvingiel)

[Lalaith]

I think that Elrond was just too direct in saying Arwen she should leave Middle-earth in the movie. He was much more subtile in the books I think.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Artanis
Those 3 would be Galadriel, Luthien and Arwen, non? Galadriel, Luthien, and Finrod.:D

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Galadriel, Luthien, and Finrod.:D LOL! :p Arwen, begone!

[Elf Girl]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Cate Blanchet was... perfect! I think she was the perfect Galadriel, in that no one could have played the part better. And it helps that she's beautiful.
I thought she looked a bit smirk-y. ;)

[Lalaith]

I thought she looked a bit smirk-y.
I thought Cate Blanchett looked great, although not like the most beautiful woman on earth. But she has an exceptional extraordinary beauty.

[Nurvingiel]

Cate Blanchett is so beautiful! But I can see why you would say 'smirky'. I would not describe her this way, but I can see why you'd think that.

[Firekitten2006]

Cate Blanchett kept looking like she had a little inside joke going on there :) lol

Elrond....he worries me. In the books he really just didnt seem to be so angry. But at one minute in the movies he's telling Aragorn about his mother and his destiny, and the next he's tellin him to get his hands off his daughter! lol

[Nurvingiel]

Galadriel is so wise, maybe she does have an inside joke going on. She's even wiser than Elrond, so maybe he just hasn't reached the stage where he can be humorous about all the dark and terrible knowledge he's burdened with.

[Balrog_of_Morgoth]

I agree. I have come to a point where I can accept him now, but he is far from my favorite. I would have never cast him because of the whole Matrix thing. He sort of "is" Agent Smith to the general public now, and that takes away from LOTR.

As someone said above, he acted well and played his part well, just a mis-cast on PJ's part.

He is much easier to take in the opening scenes of the Last Alliance and the flashback scenes, but then comes across as a scrooge concerning Arwen and the Ring.

[Wayfarer]

In the opening scene, where he's all greasy and dirty, I think he looks a bit like an orc.

[Balrog_of_Morgoth]

One scene in particular I did really like was when he was leading Isildur into Mt. Doom. When Isildur turned away I think Elrond looked badass in his armor and with his cape flying in the updrafts from the chasm. That rocked.

[azalea]

I thought he looked good all sweaty and dirty!:cool: I'm glad I've never seen The Matrix; there've been so many comments about Hugo Weaving being seen as his character in that! Since I never saw it, I thought he was fine (although I agree that PJ made him too negative, I understand he was using that character to get some stuff across to the audience, but it's too bad they didn't get to see more of his nice side!) [I do want to see The Matrix, though, I've heard it's good.]

[Legolas_GreenLeaf]

I'm glad I've never seen The Matrix; there've been so many comments about Hugo Weaving being seen as his character in that!
You should definately watch the first matrix before seeing the second, it's really good. (but LoTR is better! :)) I want to see the second Matrix but it is strange seeing Hugo Weaving played in LoTR and in The Matrix...It's like seeing Harry Potter as a hobbit or something...

[cassiopeia]

Just don't go and see Priscilla: Queen of the Desert...Elrond in drag disturbs the mind. :D

[Nurvingiel]

Hugo Weaving was in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert!? :D :rolleyes: :confused: I'd heard it was funny, but that just takes the cake. Now I've got to watch it.

[Artanis]

Originally posted by azalea
I'm glad I've never seen The Matrix; there've been so many comments about Hugo Weaving being seen as his character in that!I had it the other way around. I saw Matrix after FotR and was constantly thinking of Elrond when I saw agent Smith :rolleyes:
Elrond in drag though, he-he :D

Edit: It's difficult to spell 'Elrond' today

[Lalaith]

Thats the problem with actors, you'll probably remember them playing another character all the time.
Can you watch a film with Elijah Wood without thinking of Frodo?

[Artanis]

The only other film I've seen with EW is "The ice storm", and that was some years ago. He was cute already at that time :D

I've seen Cate Blanchett in other films after LotR, but luckily I didn't think about Galadriel when I saw her, she was so different.

[Legolas_GreenLeaf]

Thats the problem with actors, you'll probably remember them playing another character all the time.
I definately can't watch a film with Elijah (like The Faculty and The Good Son) w/o thinking of Frodo. Same with Sean Astin in Rudy.
But not Viggo Mortensen because he looks so different in LoTR.
But I don't think I've seen another movie with Orlando yet. Does anyone know when that Pirates of the Carribean movie is coming out? soon?:)

[Miranda]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Hugo Weaving was in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert!? :D :rolleyes: :confused: I'd heard it was funny, but that just takes the cake. Now I've got to watch it.

Its hilarious and he's brilliant- you'll never look at Lord Elrond in the same way again! I watched it over new year and then went out and bought it. The only problem is now I can't watch LOTR or read it for that matter with visualizing him in all his great drag costumes. Its a good film though. Mx

[Lalaith]

oes anyone know when that Pirates of the Carribean movie is coming out? soon?
I really looking forward to seeing this movie, but I don't know when it comes out. But I don't think that I'll think of Legolas when I see Orlando Bloom because they look so different. I would like to see Black Hawk Down with him, but my friends said the movie is stupid and he looks like 12 years old.

And it was really strange to see Sean Astin as a young boy in the film Boy Soldiers.

[Insidious Rex]

Originally posted by Lalaith
I would like to see Black Hawk Down with him, but my friends said the movie is stupid and he looks like 12 years old.

Julie, the film is actually not bad but its kind of hard core. I certainly wouldnt call it stupid. I dont know what they were watching. Several vietnam vets have told me Black Hawk Down is the most realistic combat movie ever made.

Originally posted by Lalaith
And it was really strange to see Sean Astin as a young boy in the film Boy Soldiers.

Have you seen The War of the Roses? Wasnt he a kid in that?

[Evenstar1400]

awwww! sean astin was soooo cute as a kid? ever see the goonies? hes mikey!!!! hes soooo cute! (ok ill shut up now)

ps pirates of the carrabien comes out sometime in june i think

[Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn]

yea...there was a movie with elijah in it on saturday..he was like 10 maybe and he was so cute@!

[azalea]

Gentle reminder: This is going off topic. The topic here is Elrond, and there is a whole thread called "Movie Actors" where you can discuss other movies the actors have been in.:)

[Lalaith]

Okay, as we should not talk about that in this message board just a short comment: Didn't see that movie with Sean Astin.

Back to Elrond:
Do you think he'll take part at the wedding of Arwen and Aragorn in the movie?

[cassiopeia]

Originally posted by Lalaith
Back to Elrond:
Do you think he'll take part at the wedding of Arwen and Aragorn in the movie?
I think so. Surely he wouldn't miss his daughters wedding. Hopefully he won't ruin it by objecting halfway through the ceremony and take Arwen to Valinor with him. :)
I wonder if Galadriel will be attending. In the FOTR she says to Aragorn that they will not meet again. How mean not to attend your grandaughters wedding!

PS: I just saw the Goonies with Sean Astin. He is pretty cute. :D

[Lalaith]

I wonder if Galadriel will be attending.
But she was there in the book! How can PJ cut her part out! that would really make no sense.

[cassiopeia]

Well, he's cut out other people before...;) :D

[Lalaith]

Well, he's cut out other people before...
yeah, but Galadriel was in the movie before and the audience already knows her so he can have the advantage of using a character which is already introduced.

[Ithilwin]

Elrond seemed like a bad guy in the movie...they made him look bad.It wasn't like that at all in the books:(

[Lalaith]

Is there anything that PJ didn't change?

[mallondwen]

i thought that Hugo Weaving did an awesome job considering that OJ had him wound a little too tight, even for a 6000 year old Elf, i can't (and wouldn't want to) see anyone else in that role.

off subject:
i think that for such a small role, Orlando did really good, i mean no one can fall out of a helicopter and break their back like him :D , (he's had that first hand experience, know what i mean)
I can't wait to see him in pirates of the carribean and ned kelly, honestly he's the only reason i'm gonna see 'em

[mallondwen]

origonally posted by Lalaith
Is there anything that PJ didn't change?

yes, Legolas is still the best and cutest character :D

but seriously, no, except maybe the one word lines like "gandalf" "aragorn" "Legolas" "frodo" etc...

[Arcala]

Is there anything that PJ didn't change?

In my opinion, PJ changed......let's see....perhaps.....EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!:D :D

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Hey, Sauron's still the bad guy! Isn't he? :confused: ;)

Seriously, I thought Sam's character was very well captured in the movies.

[cassiopeia]

If PJ didn't get Sam right, I would have boycotted all three movies. :)

[Lalaith]

I didn't say that I don't like the work of PJ, I mean I love it, it's wonderful and it makes me dream of New Zealand.
(In fact, after I saw the first movie I dreamt of Hobbits).

I really liked it when PJ put these famous character lines into the movie. somehow all the important sentences seem to be in it, although not all at the same place like in the book.
yes, Legolas is still the best and cutest character
what can I say more?

[Lollypopgurl]

I loved Sam in the movie too!

Trying to get back on topic:
Elrond...Elrond...is cool!

[Lalaith]

I wonder if Elrond got that arrogant look in the book too? I mean he had it in the movie, but was he described as arrogant in the books? Not really, I hope.

[Gaporli]

Hugo Weaving (Elrond) is a great actor. I think they did a wonderful job, he just wanted his daughter to live safely and peacefully. Plus if you watch closely in the first movie Aragorn tells Galadriel that he wants Arwen to leave and be with her people.

[Gorhiriel]

Gaporli, you are dead right! Hugo Weaving was fantastic.,

[azalea]

I finally saw The Matrix and LOVED it, but I didn't think of Agent Smith as Elrond, nor do I think I'll imagine Agent Smith when I see the LotR movies again. I'm pretty good at separating roles, plus he was such a baddie in The Matrix! I saw in the preview for the sequel that Hugo will be in it.

[TinuvielChild]

Yeah, first time I saw FotR, Elrond's first line sounded to me like "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Andersen!"...I have been Matrixified. Hugo Weaving did an awesome job! Okay, after having read a fanfic about it and having heard people discuss it, I now really need to go see Priscilla: Queen of the Desert! I mean, Hugo in drag? Can't miss it.

[Ornelírë Mistë]

Elrond is my favorite character in the FOTR. I like Hugo Weaving a lot, and I liked Elrond's clothes somewhat, but I did not like the actual character of Elrond in the film. I was disappointed in the Elves a lot. And the most annoying thing was Elrond's hair! Since when do Elves tie clumsy, ungraceful, ugly knots in their hair?

[Heather Wooltoes]

The Mommy in me kept wanting to grab those stupid little hair tags and tuck them behind his ears....She fought with the "bad girl" in me who just wanted to grab him (and do things I can't say in a PG forum ;O)

[Elfhelm]

One of the major differences between myth and drama is that drama is character-based. Dramatic tension must come from within the character. There is no tension in the book Elrond. So they turned him into Thingol. Now there's a story. How convenient.

[Bombadillo]

Well PJ destroyed all the elves. He made Galadriel and Elrond esspecially bad. They're ugly and they're evil in his movies.
(<Elrond's evil glance of death)

The movies center a lot on Aragorn, or Aragorn and Arwen, so PJ made Arwen steal Glorfindel's horse to get to the fords. He made Legolas too much of a pretty boy. He really should read the books.

[Anglorfin]

Originally posted by TinuvielChild
Yeah, first time I saw FotR, Elrond's first line sounded to me like "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Andersen."

LoL I always think of the same thing! But anyway I think Hugo made a really good Elrond, he just played with a bad script. I can't say the same for Kate Blanchett though, I didn't like her at all.

P.S. Bombadillo that face isn't evil, it's one of the funniest disturbed faces in all of ME.

[Legolas_GreenLeaf]

The movies center a lot on Aragorn, or Aragorn and Arwen, so PJ made Arwen steal Glorfindel's horse to get to the fords. He made Legolas too much of a pretty boy. He really should read the books.

Actually, when you think about it, the movie centers on everything quite equally.

Glorfindel isn't an important character, so PJ had to boost Arwens part. You have to remember though, books are SO difficult in being made into a movie. And it is never perfect and it is always never as good as the books.:)

Legolas wasn't purposely made to be a pretty boy, either. Elves aren't ugly, they have fair faces, and is faithful to the books.
And I also think that PJ has been a fan woth LOTR since he was 16. Christopher Lee is also an enormous fan, and he helped PJ out a lot.
I think the elves were portrayed GREATLY and couldn't have been better, IMO. :)

[Lady of Middle Earth 99]

I think Elrond was great!!! he was really good i think!

[Lalaith]

Originally posted by Bombadillo
Well PJ destroyed all the elves. He made Galadriel and Elrond esspecially bad. They're ugly and they're evil in his movies.
(<Elrond's evil glance of death)

The movies center a lot on Aragorn, or Aragorn and Arwen, so PJ made Arwen steal Glorfindel's horse to get to the fords. He made Legolas too much of a pretty boy. He really should read the books.
IMO, he didn't destroy the elves. Legolas was very good. And I think the Elrond wasn't bad. And Galadriel (Cate Blanchett) was also very cool. Okay, not that beautiful as described, but she acted really well.

[Jonathan]

I liked the how PJ described Elrond in the film. Elrond wasn't like I'd imagined him, but Hugo did a great job playing him. Welcome to Rivendell, Mr Anderson.

I loved PJ's Galadriel. Cate Blanchett was the perfect choise for the part of the Queen of Lórien. She looked exactly as I had envisioned her, and I loved her voice.

[Lalaith]

Originally posted by Jonathan
I liked the how PJ described Elrond in the film. Elrond wasn't like I'd imagined him, but Hugo did a great job playing him. Welcome to Rivendell, Mr Anderson.

I loved PJ's Galadriel. Cate Blanchett was the perfect choise for the part of the Queen of Lórien. She looked exactly as I had envisioned her, and I loved her voice.
Don't mention her voice. I know, I'm a girl, but I fell in love with that voice when I first heard her.
She has got the right story telling voice.

[Anglorfin]

Originally posted by Jonathan
I liked the how PJ described Elrond in the film. Elrond wasn't like I'd imagined him, but Hugo did a great job playing him. Welcome to Rivendell, Mr Anderson.

I loved PJ's Galadriel. Cate Blanchett was the perfect choise for the part of the Queen of Lórien. She looked exactly as I had envisioned her, and I loved her voice.

IMO she could have been a little hotter. Like her and Eowyn switching roles. Am I the only person that thinks Eowyn was hotter than all the Elf chiks? (yes including Liv Tyler, she's hot, but he wasn't at her hottest in this movie)

[Bombadillo]

Nope. Galadriel definately could have been hotter. I don't know what PJ was thinking when he cast Cate Blanchett.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by Anglorfin
IMO she could have been a little hotter. Like her and Eowyn switching roles. Am I the only person that thinks Eowyn was hotter than all the Elf chiks? (yes including Liv Tyler, she's hot, but he wasn't at her hottest in this movie)

He wasn't? What are you trying to say? :eek:

[Lalaith]

Maybe he thought that Galadriel should look wise and not just to attract all the fanboys.

[Eowyn, Lady of Rohan]

Ok, sorry, I've been forgetting to look here, where are we? What's happening?