Will TTT match FotR in Oscar Nominations???

[Dúnedain]

I am just curious what everyone thinks about the Oscar Nominations this year. Do you think TTT will match the 13 nominations FotR got last year or even surpass that mark?

I think this is a tough one. I would say yes they will match it or surpass it, however the Oscar committee is so strange. The movies from this past year, in my humble opinion, sucked big time and there isn't really much competition in my eyes. However, I am hearing rumors about movies that got horrible and I mean horrible reviews that are said to be leading the way for Best Picture in the major categories amongst the so-called "movie experts".

What does everyone else think???

[Evenstar1400]

i think TTT will get as many or more nominations. as for the people who decide who gets nominated, they should seriously consider whether or not the movies that sucked are worth nominating.

[Huan]

I think this one will be considered a "sequel" and more of an action picture than Fellowship. Thus I expect the Academy to be snobby about it. It'll get fewer nominations, and those mostly in the technical categories.

[Lalaith]

I think it would deserve every academy award which is available to win. But the people who decide who wins have sometimes strange opinions.
And I think this year there is competition (not for a real LOTR fan but for non-fans): Star Wars, Spider Man (in the technical area) and some other movies.

[Elfhelm]

No. Although this one seems to be making even more money, it's RotK that will bring in the big awards. I expect RotK will pass Titanic, and PJ will not claim to be king of the world.

[unregistered]

I agree with huan, there will be less

[Lalaith]

No. Although this one seems to be making even more money, it's RotK that will bring in the big awards. I expect RotK will pass Titanic, and PJ will not claim to be king of the world

I agree to that totally. I mean, FotR was a great movie and TTT, to, but I guess that RotK will win the oscar for the best movie of the year, because it is the final conclusion of the trilogy. That would honour the first two movies too.

[Noahamir]

Lets see:

---Nominated last year but didn't win its catgory---

1.) Best Picture - I think it will be nominated again but I doubt will win.

2.) Best Director - A lock to be nominated (Based on Director's Guild Nomination) but will lose out to Scorsese for win.

3.) Best Supporting Actor - A Real Toughie - It depends if Academy trys to be original and nominate Andy Serkis, otherwise no.

4.) Best Adapted Screenplay - A Lock to be nominated

5.) Best Art Direction - A Lock

6.) Best Editing - I think it will be nominated again based on PJ's ability to weave together three different storylines so effectively.

7.) Best Costume Design - A Lock

8.) Best Original Song - I don't see this being nominated again, no big name like Enya this time.

9.) Best Sound - A Lock

---Last Years Nominations that Won!---

10.) Best Visual Effects - A Lock (Gollum, Ents, and Helm's Deep Battle)

11.) Best Cinematography - A Lock (Rohan Landscapes)

12.) Best Makeup - A Lock (Theoden's transformation - major reason)

13.) Best Original Score - Debatable

---Possible New Nomination---

Best Sound Editing? I don't know why it wasn't nominated last year - only two spots though

Worst Case: I am guessing 11 nominations instead of 13.

Definite loss for Best Original Song nomination and I think a 50/50 Chance for Best Supporting Actor/Best Score. I think one of those won't make it.

Best Case: 13 Nominations

Only loses Best Original Song, but picks up Sound Editing

[dawningoftime]

Here are my predictions for oscar nominations:
Most of the technical awards
Best Costume
Best makeup
Best supporting actor
Best director (if Gangs of New York is nominated, it probably won't win)
Best picture
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Original Score

One thing to look forward is for the AFI awards in a couple of weeks and see how rings does.

[Lalaith]

I think it is a difficult question, to say who is a supporting actor and who is a "main" actor. And there are so many actors in this movie. they should all be nominated.

[Dunadan]

Originally posted by Noahamir
1.) Best Picture - I think it will be nominated again but I doubt will win.

4.) Best Adapted Screenplay - A Lock to be nominated

5.) Best Art Direction - A Lock

7.) Best Costume Design - A Lock

10.) Best Visual Effects - A Lock (Gollum, Ents, and Helm's Deep Battle)

11.) Best Cinematography - A Lock (Rohan Landscapes)

12.) Best Makeup - A Lock (Theoden's transformation - major reason)

Thanks for posting that list, N. I've edited it down to what I think will be the max list of nominations. I agree with what you said about Best Picture

I reckon it only has a chance of winning win Best Makeup and Visual Effects. PJ stated in an interview that he had no intention of playing the game this time as far as brown-nosing the Academy members goes. That scuppers its chances for a start. Then there's the "been-there-done-that" factor. And also the fact that the script wasn't very good. :rolleyes:

cheers

d.

[Noahamir]

Even though Peter said he is not going to smooze the Academy Members this year. I think New Line itself will try to pick up the slack and do alot of the smoozing itself. Who knows if that will be effective enough.

I also agree about the "been-there-done-that" effect, but I think it will mostly effect catagories that LOTR has already won the OSCAR, in perticular Best Score. I can see Academy Members thinking that they already awarded LOTR with an Oscar with it, why not give someone else a chance. We'll see!

[Lalaith]

If anyone of the acadamy has read the book and loved it, than the chances that TTT wins many oscars go down dramatically.
And isn't Christopher Lee a member of the academy? I thought he was.

[Lalaith]

Hey I've got oscar news for you: They are talking about nominating Andy Serkis!!!!!!

[Insidious Rex]

Originally posted by Noahamir
Lets see:

---Nominated last year but didn't win its catgory---

...3.) Best Supporting Actor - A Real Toughie - It depends if Academy trys to be original and nominate Andy Serkis, otherwise no.

Now who are considered the lead actors for these movies and who are the supporting actors? Would Ian McKellen be considered a supporting role?

[Insidious Rex]

Originally posted by Lalaith
...And isn't Christopher Lee a member of the academy? I thought he was.

If he is then he will definitely have to take a pass on all the catagories the movies get nominated for.

[dawningoftime]

What I find interesting is that the members of the academy haven't necessarily seen the movies they're voting for. It's more about the campaigning that goes on that determines the outcome of the oscars.

[Pippin Skywalker]

Sadly Howard Shore's score is not valid to be nominated. The Academy made a new rule that movies (like in trilogies) that have theme from a previous one can not be even nominated. And although the score of TTT is 88% new music it is still considered out of contention.

Generally I have a feeling that TTT will recieve LESS nominations this year simply because the Academy is more used to the film and the world of Middle Earth and it feels (to them) a little same ol' same ol'. The reason Fellowship power housed into the oscars with 13 nods is because it was a new thing,groundbreaking, jaw dropping and down right spunky baby. But with Towers they feel a little more used to the whole "feel" and so will lavish it less this time. I fear it will neither pick up Director (for sure) or Best Picture but will only be nominated. Art Direction, Costume Design, Sound and Editing will probably jump in as well as screenplay.

And Andy Serkis?


GO, GOLLUM, GO!

I agree that ROTK will probably win Best Picture and Director.

[BeardofPants]

Guys, that's not how the academy works. The LOTR trilogy is too "successful" for PJ to win best director for. It won't be until he's churned out a smaller movie, which required far less effort and talent, that he'll win best director. :rolleyes:

[Lalaith]

I don't understand the decisions of the academy at all. they seem to have a strange way to nominate and choose.
By the way: Do the same peeple vote for the nominees like the ones that decided who will be nominated?

[Lalaith]

Not many nominations at all. What a pity.

[Rána Eressëa]

Who cares about the academy? The People's Choice Awards are what you need to be worrying about. So what if the academy didn't like you - if you lose there, you know who didn't like you? The people!

[Dúnedain]

Yeah I am kinda pissed that there wasn't even a nomination for someone for Best Supporting Actor. However, like I said in the other thread, I've come to realize that the Oscar's are a joke, they nominate and award unworthy movies and actors all the time...

[Lalaith]

Yeah, sometimes they choose a good movie, but most of the winners and nominations just suck. Sometimes I think if something is commercial they don't want to give the oscar to this movie. Commercial means to them bad quality.
And this year PJ didn't want to make advertisements for the academy so maybe this is another reason for their decision not nomitation TTT.

[Dúnedain]

Yup it seems the Academy only ever nominates and awards "Artsy" movies...

[Lalaith]

Stupid academy.
I'll bet they are all old and grey and haven't seen all the movies that came out the last year.

[Legolas_GreenLeaf]

Who cares about the academy? The People's Choice Awards are what you need to be worrying about. So what if the academy didn't like you - if you lose there, you know who didn't like you? The people!
I couldn't agree w/ you more!:D

Also, the biggest thing is probably that Peter Jackson is once again snubbed the Academy Award for Best Director. This year he is not even nominated… Can you believe it? Here is the man who is single-handedly delivering the best movies we have seen in years, converting a vision to the screen that EVERY other filmmaker has been afraid of, and creates not only some of the most stunning cinematic moments, but also some of the most engaging films of recent years, and he gets…. nothing! Not even a nod. The only thing that is left for me to say to that is that the Academy is clearly missing the point here. Every year there are a few strange nominations in the list...Sad, isn't it?

[Lalaith]

Sad. Sad. Sad. I just don't get it, why the academy doesn't like commercial movies. I know that many of these are trash, but TTT is definitely a nomination worth. Even the oscar.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

"commercial" movies? :confused: Sorry, not familiar with the term.

[Lalaith]

Maybe this term doesn't exist in the english language. In german we mean the opposite of "independent" if we talk of commercial.
You know if a production company makes a movie and the only purpose is to gain loads of money. And if the movie is successfull (if intended or not) it is commercial. Many people have seen it and it doesn't seem that the movie was made because it is a great story but to gain money. Do you understand what i mean?

[Legolas_GreenLeaf]

I know what you mean.:) :)

[Lalaith]

Now the most interesting question is if TTT will get any oscars in the nominated categories.