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congressmn
01-20-2003, 03:45 PM
They were supposed to be a 10th dark rider.
Ane ine knows bout him?

FrodoFriend
01-20-2003, 03:47 PM
Really? Where did you get this info? I'm interested!

congressmn
01-20-2003, 03:53 PM
Well one of my friends raised this issue in school. I will as k him tommorrow, and confirm the source of this contovercy.
But i think its true, there was a 10th dark rider.

but somewhere along the way, his trory was lost.
Nothing certain bout this.

Any one has any answers?

FrodoFriend
01-20-2003, 04:33 PM
Now begins . . . the Quest for the 10th Dark Rider! - dramatic music - Da da da dada daaaaaa!! Who will be the 10th Nazgul?

durin's bane
01-20-2003, 07:43 PM
A tenth Ringwraith...uh oh...theory nerve has been activated...

I think a tenth Ringwraith would be possible...maybe he was lost and slain or something on the way to the Shire...but there is the line in the poem that says "...Nine for the mortal men doomed to die..." those nine mortal men became the Nazgul. But who says there wasn't another Ring made...or one of those Men shared their power with someone else...*dun dun dun*

johnnyrod
01-20-2003, 09:49 PM
If there is something behind this then get on with it, congressmn, because so far you seem to be full of so much hot air. There were nine rings for men, which produced the Nazgul. Am I missing something?

The Lady of Ithilien
01-20-2003, 10:15 PM
I think a tenth Ringwraith would be possible...maybe he was lost and slain or something on the way to the Shire...Actually, he got rather lost in time and separated from his nine fellows, but on his arrival in the Shire met the Old Took's fourth fabulous daughter, Hensbane (who isn't mentioned in the chronicles as her mother wasn't Adamanta Chubb), and was so smitten with her, he assumed hobbit form, adopted the name "Sandyman," opened a mill in the Bywater area, and married Hensbane: now that they were both finally respectable and filled to overflowing with bliss, they lived happily ever after. :)

PS: The full story is told in the ballad "Wannabe the Nazgûl," most recently recorded by Finn McGhoul and the Louts 'round about midnight in a live session one Halloween at The Forsaken Inn:

"Clueless he was,
And ringless, too,
Yet cloaked all in black,
Though he only stood five feet two,
Wannabe....
the Nazgûl....
Ah-ooooooooooo....."

The entire ballad goes on quite a bit in this vein, and rivals The Lay of Leithan in length as well as intricacy, though most listeners fall asleep before the end so the exact number of verses is still unknown.

Arathorn
01-21-2003, 01:03 AM
I think that the 10th was a Work-In-Progress during the War of the Ring. His brothers went to fetch him many times but he was taken hostage by his 8 other companions: a smart-aleck-maia who got sent to the Valar's version of the south pole, 2 men fighting over a crown, an elf who decided to play one last round of good guy before retiring, a dwarf who likes elves and 3 halflings who refused to be ruled by this 10th one.:rolleyes:

Seriously, I'm also interested on your friend's version of this 10th nazgul.

Wayfarer
01-21-2003, 02:07 AM
No.

Nimphredil
01-21-2003, 03:51 AM
The 10th Nazgul is Sauron

hobinator
01-21-2003, 04:11 AM
i think the 10th wraith is possible becuase remeber when frodo got stabbed, aragorn said he is passing into the dark and soon will become a wraith like them, perhaps they have done this to someone else

congressmn
01-21-2003, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by hobinator
i think the 10th wraith is possible becuase remeber when frodo got stabbed, aragorn said he is passing into the dark and soon will become a wraith like them, perhaps they have done this to someone else

But really his passing on to the darker side doesnt really mean he will become a Ringwraith. This isnt STAR WARS and he isnt darth vaders' son.

He could well be converted into a hideous evil loathsome charachter, and not nessacarily a ringwraith.

congressmn
01-21-2003, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by Nimphredil
The 10th Nazgul is Sauron

10th Nazgul is Sauron. Thanks a lot you have solved it. Sauron has turned himself into a Ringwraith, quite a story.
Are u thinking of adding another sequel to the Lord of the Rings?:confused: :rolleyes:

Grey_Wolf
01-21-2003, 11:24 AM
They were NINE in all. EIGHT RIDERS and the Witch King.

Wayfarer
01-21-2003, 12:05 PM
The Witch King was a Rider too.

Sauron wasn't a nazgul, because he wasn't a wraith.

Frodo was close to becoming a wraith, but not a RINGwraith. There is a difference.

hobinator
01-21-2003, 12:44 PM
ohh, i understand now about the wraiths and ringwraiths, also here is a bit of fun info, Alan Lee played one of the nine kings of men in the beginning of fellowship, but thats movies thread

congressmn
01-21-2003, 12:52 PM
Funny

FrodoFriend
01-21-2003, 02:05 PM
Sure there's a 10th Rider. We just never see him because the Witch King always keeps him hidden away under his cloak . . . hey, there's a runt in every litter, right?

Herooftheworld
01-21-2003, 08:06 PM
I think that there could've been a 1oth ringwriath, and come on, he could've been murdered on the way to the region. Or he was just hanging around somewhere, that's what I do!

Shadowfax
01-21-2003, 09:35 PM
.............I just don't think so.

Wayfarer
01-21-2003, 09:43 PM
There were nine rings, and therefore there were only nine ringwraiths. Period.

On the other hand, there were quite a few wraiths, and quite a few riders (some of whom were black :D) in middle earth.

Dúnedain
01-21-2003, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by Wayfarer
There were nine rings, and therefore there were only nine ringwraiths. Period.

w3rd up! Can't get more to the point than that :D

goodwarlord
01-21-2003, 09:47 PM
were they sent out to find and destroy the ring?

Wayfarer
01-21-2003, 09:48 PM
They were sent out to recover the ring.
Frodo and company were trying to destroy it.

goodwarlord
01-21-2003, 10:49 PM
Wraithes are the hooded dudes right?

BeardofPants
01-22-2003, 03:33 AM
Tell me: were you one of the idiots that voted Jesus to be a great American?

Grey_Wolf
01-22-2003, 02:28 PM
Well, maybe PJ will make one up.

Elf Girl
01-22-2003, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by BeardofPants
Tell me: were you one of the idiots that voted Jesus to be a great American?
BoP, that's unkind to a poor little newbie.

goodwarlord
01-22-2003, 10:10 PM
i am just a poor newbie, i don't know that much obotu the lord of the rings!

Lord Manafirogh
01-27-2003, 04:51 PM
there is no such thing as a 10 ringwraith man! don't be silly if it was Tolkien would have wrote about him. 9 rings for the man who were doomed to die!!!!! and the all became black riders remember!

Gothmog the great
01-27-2003, 05:01 PM
man exactly there were only 9 blackriders
yeah u go ask ur mate to ask his so called "source" yeah u know who im talking to.

congressmn
01-28-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Gothmog the great
man exactly there were only 9 blackriders
yeah u go ask ur mate to ask his so called "source" yeah u know who im talking to.

ok got it. Class mate gets a punch in the face, if he fails to name a source.