Isnt FRODO a blondy>?

[congressmn]

in some of the books in different languages( it sayas he is blonde)

[Jonathan]

I have looked in the Swedish version of the book, but I have not found any passage where Frodo's hair colour is mentioned. All I have found about Frodo's appearance is that he looked like Bilbo.
If there are versions where Frodo is blonde, than the Swedish version should definately be one of them.

[Adrian Baggins]

Who cares, may I ask? Personally I can't see Frodo with blond hair.

[Sister Golden Hair]

I don't think Frodo's hair color is mentioned, but Tolkien implies that Hobbits had dark hair, because he mentions that Sam's children were born with golden hair because of his great love for the Elves and Galadriel. This to me indicates that blonde hair among Hobbits was not common.

[Sminty_Smeagol]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Sam's children were born with golden hair because of his great love for the Elves and Galadriel.

LOL do you know how weird that sounds? Maybe Rosie is cheating on Sam with some of his elvish relations...

[FrodoFriend]

Frodo's supposed to be sort of elvish-looking, and Elves have dark hair, so I always assumed he had dark hair too....

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by FrodoFriend
Frodo's supposed to be sort of elvish-looking, and Elves have dark hair, so I always assumed he had dark hair too.... Yes, but not all Elves had dark hair.

[FrodoFriend]

The great majority did. It says so in the Appendices....only the royal house or something was blond. I'm not sure what the deal with Lorien is, in the movie they're all blond, but I don't remember any such description from the book. I never pictured Legolas as blond either, but oh well.

[Sister Golden Hair]

The Noldor for the most part were dark haired with the exception of the house of Finarfin who had golden hair. Galadreil and Finrod were two of those from that house. A couple of Feanor's sons had redish hair.

The Vanyarin Elves all had golden hair, but few of them came to Middle-earth.

The Telerin Elves, which is what the Sindar are from had silver and blondish hair. Legolas was a Sindarin Elf. To me there is uncertianty with this branch of Elves because Luthian although half Maia, was a Telerin Elf with black hair.

[Beleg Strongbow]

At the end of RotK it points out that many children born in the Year of Plenty (1420 SR) were blond haired but that was rare.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

SGH: Telerin Elves are silver/blond? Could you tell me where it says that? I always thought that Eldar had dark hair, except for Vanyar and those with Vanyarin blood. :confused:

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
SGH: Telerin Elves are silver/blond? Could you tell me where it says that? I always thought that Eldar had dark hair, except for Vanyar and those with Vanyarin blood. :confused: Tolkien says that Thranduil had golden hair. He is a Sindarin Elf. Celeborn, who is a kinsman of Thingol had silver hair. Earwen, who was a Telerin Elf is also described in Unfinished Tales as having silver hair.

[azalea]

What is it w/ Entmooters and hair color?:p

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by azalea
What is it w/ Entmooters and hair color?:p Ha ha! I don't think it's just Entmooters, but Tolkien fans. Afterall, Tolkien was vague, but yet talked a lot about hair color.:)

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by azalea
What is it w/ Entmooters and hair color?:p

Yeah seriously, you can find, literally, that almost every other post on these boards have something to do with hair or legolas, lol :D

[Starr Polish]

Frodofriend! ::glompity::

I've imagined hobbits having dark hair for the most part as well, since it was uncommon when the children of 1420 had blonde hair...hmm.

[FrodoFriend]

I imagined Frodo in the most pleasing form to me, which is to say dark-haired, blueish-green-eyed, and lacking several important articles of clothing. ;)

Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo, StarrPolish!

[Sminty_Smeagol]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Ha ha! I don't think it's just Entmooters, but Tolkien fans. Afterall, Tolkien was vague, but yet talked a lot about hair color.:)
We have nothing better to argue over lol

[Falagar]

I've always thought Hobbits had brown/dark hair.

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Jonathan
If there are versions where Frodo is blonde, than the Swedish version should definately be one of them. What, because then you blonde swedish guys would feel at home among hobbits? ;)

[Jonathan]

Originally posted by Artanis
What, because then you blonde swedish guys would feel at home among hobbits?That's right! Many Swedes are blonde, we would find quite natural to have a blonde Frodo :D

[Earniel]

I believe hobbits had mostly dark hair but I also seem to remember reading something about ....

*runs to get FoTR-copy*

Here it is, from chapter 'Strider' in the description of Frodo that Gandalf gave to Butterbur.

But this one is taller than some and fairer than most, and he has a cleft in his chin: perky chap with a bright eye.

I know that 'fair' has more than one meaning in English so I checked in my Dutch translation and there it says 'blonder' (more blonde) so I believe it does refer to his haircolour. My verdict :) is thus that he wasn't blond but that he had lighter hair than most hobbits.

[Artanis]

I couldn't resist to check my Norwegian translation. It says 'flottere', which I think could be translated back as 'more dashing' :rolleyes: , but definately not 'more blonde'. :D
I'm prepared to let the Dutch translator be right though, since I'm not at all happy with the Norwegian translation. :(

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Elves are also described as fair, but the hair of the Noldor is dark, I believe. I think that when Tolkien says fair, he either means fair of skin, or good-looking.

[cassiopeia]

Originally posted by Eärniel
I know that 'fair' has more than one meaning in English so I checked in my Dutch translation and there it says 'blonder' (more blonde) so I believe it does refer to his haircolour. My verdict :) is thus that he wasn't blond but that he had lighter hair than most hobbits.
I always interpreted that to mean that Frodo was better looking than most other hobbits. But you could be right. More things to debate now. :)

[Earniel]

It's quite ironic isn't it, that it all depends in this tiny word 'fair'. :p

Well I'm not sure whether the Dutch translator got it 100% right, Artanis. So far I haven't found any faults in my copy but then I haven't compared the Dutch and English book in detail yet. :)

[congressmn]

Ya, some more to debate on certainly.
But i think the English version shoulr be trusted more than others, for obvious reasons.

i'm sure of one thing. the Swedish Translator has definately goto it wrong.+++

[BeardofPants]

I have always interpreted "fair" to be fair of face. Just as in the reference to the elves being fair of face, and form.

[FrodoFriend]

I'm pretty sure that 'fair' is just Tolkien's way of delicately letting us know that Frodo is a gorgeously snogolicious love hobbit.

[Rána Eressëa]

Yep. Right on, halfwitted friend.

[Elf Girl]

*groan* Let's not discuss the hotness of Frodo in this thread.

I also thought "fair" meant handsome or something of the like in this case.

[Earniel]

I don't know, I just think it's weird that Gandalf would describe Frodo as pretty and goodlooking. You'd think that hair colour would be a more valid criteria to describe someone the other has never seen.



*snicker*

Neh neh neh...

Sorry... can't stop giggling....:D

[Narsil's Master]

i have never read enything about hhim being blonde

[Guardian_of_the_Forest]

Would the blonde hobbits have blonde foot hair too?

[Rána Eressëa]

Since most hobbits had dark hair, I think if Frodo's was blonde, it would have been mentioned.

And since most hobbits are not "fair" to look upon, I don't think it would be odd for Gandalf to say Frodo was, after all, he was more slender than most hobbits and possibly better than average looking. Compared to most, he is fair, is what I believe Gandalf meant.

[Rána Eressëa]

Aha! I have found the proof!

The Fellowship of the Ring -- Chapter 10: Strider

'Well Masters,' said Nob, 'I've ruffled up the clothes and put in a bolster down the middle of each bed. And I made a nice imitation of your head with a brown woollen mat, Mr. Bag – Underhill, sir,' he added with a grin.

[FrodoFriend]

Oooh, one for the Halfwits!! That was some good quote-searching. So I believe the question is settled now... :D :D :D

[Earniel]

[Nitpicky mode]Okay, so we know now that Nob used a brown mat to mimick Frodo's head. But does that really means that Frodo had brown hair? Maybe Nob just couldn't find a blond woollen mat. :D Or maybe it didn't matter what color as long as it faguely resembled a hobbithead. I don't think the nazgûl would have now just what kind of colour Frodo's hair had.

Personally I do think Tolkien envisioned Frodo with brown hair. I just think that he meant by 'fairer' that Frodo had lighter hair than most hobbits.[/Nitpicky mode]

[Lizra]

Well......I think :rolleyes: :) Tolkien meant Frodo looked more elvish ( delicate, comely, pretty...... as in "fairy" :) ) than your usual "salt of the earth" hobbit. Frodo was an "elf friend". He was "fairer" than many hobbits. His features must have been more "fine" and pleasing to the eye than many hobbits. I do not veiw the use of "fair" as meaning blond hair.

[Diamond]

I imagined Frodo in the most pleasing form to me, which is to say dark-haired, blueish-green-eyed, and lacking several important articles of clothing.

LOL FrodoFriend.

I figured Frodo was dark haired. Call me movie poisoned, but that was definitely my first impression of him. And in the end of RotK it mentions that blond/e Hobbits were a rarity before the Year of Plenty and I figured if Frodo was blond, it would be worth a mention.

Di

[Wayfarer]

Frodo was a pretty boy with nice eyes, according to Gandalf.

Hmmm... :rolleyes:

[Rána Eressëa]

It wouldn't be a nice imitation if it wasn't the same color as Frodo's hair.

[FrodoFriend]

Originally posted by Wayfarer
Frodo was a pretty boy with nice eyes, according to Gandalf.


Why do I suddenly have a strange urge to giggle? I suppose Gandalf really was wise in ALL matters . . .

[Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn]

frodo with blonde hair???i cant imagine

[Aragorn_iz_cool]

Originally posted by Sminty_Smeagol
LOL do you know how weird that sounds? Maybe Rosie is cheating on Sam with some of his elvish relations...


How do you know they're even Rosie's kids. Sam could be cheating on her with Galadriel. (Gimli & Celeborn beat him up then Celeborn beats up Gimli)