gollums 2 faced personality

[kiwi]

for those who have seen TTT what do u think of the way the animators of gollum/smeagol's arguments had been created?
I thought it was really good and a bit funny because at one point he had a mean,evil lookin face and was speakin like a horrible nasty creature called Gollum and then at another point he was a sensitve, big eyed hobbit called Smeagol.

[cee2lee2]

The portrayal of Gollum was one of the highlights of TTT. And the scene in which he is arguing with himself was a brilliant job of showing the conflict within.

[Shadowfax]

A brilliant portrayal of Gollum vs. Sméagol by Andy Serkis!

[kiwi]

i toally agree! i thought it was excellent and funny! my friends thought so too!

[ElfArianwen]

Question:
Am I the only one on this forum who is terrified of Gollum?
My friends laugh at me because of it and even I can't figure it out. The war/fight scenes don't bug/gross me out, but GOLLUM FREAKS ME OUT!!!!!!
-Ari-the-weird-one-who-is-afraid-of-Gollum...and penguins:D :eek:

[kiwi]

one of my friends who is 18 thinks that too! But I'm not sure why?! Ah well never mind.

[ElfArianwen]

That makes me feel better...but less special!;) Tell your friend I sympathize with them.

[kiwi]

k
i will do!

[Elf Girl]

I thought the Gollum/Smeagol thing was way to funny. People in the audience were too busy laughing to realize the significance of that scene.

[kiwi]

yeah i guess.............but i still think it was really good!

[Dúnedain]

You might want to take a look at this thread:

http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6783

and this one:

http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6904

They have info on Gollum that you might find interesting :D

[cee2lee2]

Elf Girl, there were folks laughing in the audience when I saw it too. But I was incredibly moved and felt pity for the creature.

(Of course, last year as we were walking out after FOTR, there were angry people talking about what a stupid way that was to end a movie. :rolleyes: )

ElfArianwen, though I feel pity for the creature, I'm also incredibly creeped out by him.

[HobbitChick88]

I thought they did a wonderful job in that scene! However, some people that i went with to see TTT seemed to think that there were two of gollum. It took me a while to explain that there were 2 personalities, but really, there weren't 2. :rolleyes:


(Gollum did freak me out @ first, but then I got used to him :))

[ugo]

The Gollum scenes (particulary the major smeagol/gollum conflicts) were no doubt some of the most memorable moments of the film. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they become a celebrated, oft quoted, repeated and parodied cinematic moment. Similar to all the famous Starwars quotables.

Its scary just how many people I see doing gollum impressions nowadays. And really BADLY at that.

Gollum has always been my favourite character in the rings saga. So regardless of all the contraversial changes made the fact that he was well portrayed just about forgives everything else. My only minor quibbles were with the limitations of the CGI skin effects (always one of the hardest textures and there were a couple of times it didn't look quite right), and I thought the eyes were a little too much on the freakishly, disturbingly large side. But maybe that was the point.

Take notes George Lucas. That's how you intergarte a completely CG animated character into a live action film without turning your fan base against you.

[Lanelf]

I really loved the Gollum Vs. Smeagol debates! I thought they did it very well - like the one where they use one angle for Smeagol and a slightly different one for Gollum. Really well done.
Lanelf.

[kiwi]

one of my friends asked me if there was two of him or if it was just the camera. when i told her she still wasn't that sure about it

[Black Breathalizer]

Originally posted by ugo
I thought (Gollum's) eyes were a little too much on the freakishly, disturbingly large side. But maybe that was the point. It was the point--and quite logical. The eyes were "disturbingly large" because Smeagol lived in near total darkness for 500 years. They grew in size to adjust to the darkness.

[kiwi]

cool!
I learn some thing new everyday!

[Black Breathalizer]

Thank you, kiwi.

That is my mission: To guide lost Tolkien purists to The Light. :D

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Elf Girl
I thought the Gollum/Smeagol thing was way to funny. People in the audience were too busy laughing to realize the significance of that scene. I also laughed at that scene, it was just too funny. That does not mean I didn't notice the importance of the scene. It was very moving. The scene where Smeagol is captured by Faramir's men and Gollum creeps back into him is immensely tragic. Your time in freedom was short, Gollum. :(
Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
That is my mission: To guide lost Tolkien purists to The Light.You may have a life-long quest there BB, at least with me. :D

[Elenka]

Originally posted by ElfArianwen
Question:
Am I the only one on this forum who is terrified of Gollum?
My friends laugh at me because of it and even I can't figure it out. The war/fight scenes don't bug/gross me out, but GOLLUM FREAKS ME OUT!!!!!!
-Ari-the-weird-one-who-is-afraid-of-Gollum...and penguins:D :eek:

We need to start our own club, the Gollum Gives Us Nightmares club. I'm so-o-o scared of Gollum. In FotR he has about 2.5 seconds of screentime, and those 2.5 seconds were enough. I didn't sleep soundly for two weeks after that....Ugh, creepy.

[Firekitten2006]

I loved the Gollum/Smeagol scenes! It was so sad when you could see at the end, that Gollum had taken control again. :( But am I the only one who thought that Smeagol was slightly cute? not Gollum, he awoked a horrible hate for freaky looking mean creatures! But Smeagol reminded me of the Grandma on "Maybe its Me" I dont know :) Its probably just a wierd moment of mine :D

[ElfArianwen]

We need to start our own club the Gollum Gives Us Nightmares club.
Let's do it. Now I don't feel so bad. Even when I was reading the books he freaked me out. When I read them at night I had to read far enough that it was a scene without the freaky-NOT CUTE, NOT FUNNY-one.
I think they need to add an I'm-Scared-of-Gollum face.

[Aeryn Evenstar]

I thought the portrayal of Gollum was done really well. You have to feel sorry for him. You can see how he is tormented. The last time I went to see TTT the audience started laughing at that point. I really don't see the humor in it. I thought it was really sad. :confused:

[Insidious Rex]

Originally posted by Aeryn Evenstar
I thought the portrayal of Gollum was done really well. You have to feel sorry for him. You can see how he is tormented. The last time I went to see TTT the audience started laughing at that point. I really don't see the humor in it. I thought it was really sad. :confused:

I agree. I mean am I the only one who saw Gollum as more child like then anything else? Especially with those big puppy dog eyes. And singing to himself and all that. He actually reminds me of my 9 year old nephew. *laugh*

[Aeryn Evenstar]

The Smeagol part of Gollum was really sweet and scared and even seemed like he wanted to fit in by helping. But Gollum was the tormentor. He was a big influence on Smeagol. Smeagol depended on him. Gollum was the part of the charactor who took charge. I think Smeagol saw in Frodo someone to take care of him and help him and that is how he found the strength to tell Gollum to "go away and don't come back." Then Frodo betrayed him, or at least he felt that way. Then he let Gollum barged back in.

[Millane]

i thought it was funny but as i have said they didnt have to change him round and to make him that way that is just his personality

[kiwi]

yeah! I totally agree with you. It was a really good idea but they didn't really have to do it. In a way it probably confused people more and also made it a bit funnier..... atleast that is what is think.

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by Insidious Rex
I agree. I mean am I the only one who saw Gollum as more child like then anything else? Especially with those big puppy dog eyes. And singing to himself and all that. He actually reminds me of my 9 year old nephew. *laugh*

No, I agree. Here is why I think this too. If you remember back to the story of Smeagol, the time in his life when the ring "came to him" he was just "coming of age" for Hobbits and so he was technically still a teenager, as Pippin is. So, if you look at it from this perspective, Smeagol lost his youth when the ring took dominion over him, which allowed Gollum to take over his life. Now, that Smeagol got to come out again, he kinda picked up where he left off, since he (being Smeagol) was still "coming of age" in the sense that he didn't grow as himself, but instead aged as Gollum...