Men of the Silmarillion

[Sister Golden Hair]

The fangirl thread in the movie forum prompted me to make this thread. cassiopiea threatened to, but then she chickened out. BoP also had a hand in this. So, ladies of the forum, who is your favorite, most loved, sexiest, coolest, guy in the Sil?

[BeardofPants]

I did *not* have a hand in this! This is all your making. :p

I still stand by my earlier statements that Feanor is the hottest guy of the First Age. :cool:

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
I did *not* have a hand in this! This is all your making. :p

I still stand by my earlier statements that Feanor is the hottest guy of the First Age. :cool: Liar, liar, Pants on fire.:p

[cassiopeia]

I was only joking! Oh, ok, I think Feanor is pretty hot. That black hair and those three pretty jewels he made (I'm sure he'd give me one of them). He's great with his hands, imagine what he could do with them. :D He had seven sons, very prolific for an elf, so he obviously enjoyed....... :p And so much fire and angst in his belly, come on gals, he's the best!

[BeardofPants]

Yeah, right on! :D

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Liar, liar, Pants on fire.:p

Stop distracting me from my Feanor worshipping, you hussy. :mad: :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Yeah, right on! :D



Stop distracting me from my Feanor worshipping, you hussy. :mad: :D Hussy? Finrod wasn't even married. Anyone that has the hots for Feanor is not only a hussy, but is quite imbalanced.:D :p

[Lanelf]

Feanor stinks! Honestly! I could never go for a guy who'd swear such a blasphemous oath!
Really now - look at Glorfindel, or Fingolfin. Even Finrod Felagund. They're all better. I haven't got that much against Feanor really, he just annoyed me in the Sil. And the Kinslaying, that was just nasty and uncalled-for.
Lanelf.

[Khamûl]

Originally posted by cassiopeia
Oh, ok, I think Feanor is pretty hot.Well, his body did burn up after he died... :p

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Lanelf
Feanor stinks! Honestly! I could never go for a guy who'd swear such a blasphemous oath!
Really now - look at Glorfindel, or Fingolfin. Even Finrod Felagund. They're all better. I haven't got that much against Feanor really, he just annoyed me in the Sil. And the Kinslaying, that was just nasty and uncalled-for.
Lanelf. There ya go. Finrod was such a kind and wise soul. :)

[Artanis]

Beleg Cuthalion is one that trigger my fantasies. :D Great warrior and archer and faithful friend as he was, roaming around in the forest of Doriath.

Not exactly mainstream, am I. :rolleyes: :)

Finrod is still a favourite, but I don't think of him as ... hot.

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Lanelf
Feanor stinks! Honestly! I could never go for a guy who'd swear such a blasphemous oath!

Blasphemy AND dedication. Could it get any better? :D :p

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
There ya go. Finrod was such a kind and wise soul. :)

*cough* Boring old fart. *cough*

[Earniel]

Tuor. Now there's a guy that didn't drag his people to the mortal shores to get killed slowly and painfully and didn't hide in a cave for the better part of his life. Idril had good taste. :p

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Artanis


Finrod is still a favourite, but I don't think of him as ... hot. Come now. Even the master says that he was the fairest and most beloved of the house of Finwe.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
*cough* Boring old fart. *cough* Excuse me! Why is he a boring old fart, cause he isn't evil like you and your boyfriend Feanor?:D :p

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Come now. Even the master says that he was the fairest and most beloved of the house of Finwe. Fairest and most beloved, yes. But not hot. Fair does not imply sexy. Finrod is a little bit too perfect, if you ask me. :D

You can have the king of Nargothrond, SGH. I'll rather run about with Beleg in the woods of Doriath. :cool:

And perhaps, occasionally, go to Himring and visit Maedhros ... :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Artanis
Fairest and most beloved, yes. But not hot. Fair does not imply sexy. Finrod is a little bit too perfect, if you ask me. :D Are you kidding? How could he not be hot with those long golden locks, those beautiful grey eyes, that tall and slender build, that beautiful voice? He wasn't too perfect. He screwed up lots of times.

You can have the king of Nargothrond, SGH. I'll rather run about with Beleg in the woods of Doriath. :cool:

And perhaps, occasionally, go to Himring and visit Maedhros ... :D Beleg? now there's a scruffy Elf. Maedhros? Well, if you want to get mixed up with that bunch go ahead.:D

[Artanis]

How could he not be hot with those long golden locks, those beautiful grey eyes, that tall and slender build, that beautiful voice?Exactly. Too perfect. No Goldilocks for me, thank you. :D

Beleg? now there's a scruffy Elf.Scruffy? **runs to dictionary** Oh no, not that. But rather rugged, as in hardy. Mmmm...

Maedhros? Well, if you want to get mixed up with that bunch go ahead.Is his left hand really as good as his right was? That's what I want to know. :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Is his left hand really as good as his right was? That's what I want to know. Well, with a sword it was.:D

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Artanis
Is his left hand really as good as his right was? That's what I want to know. :D

One would hope so. :D


Originally posted by Artanis
Exactly. Too perfect. No Goldilocks for me, thank you. :D

Yeah, he's a bit of a pretty boy. Do you think he's gay? :p

[azalea]

Finrod is really cool, but I'm kind of liking Beren. I mean there's a real man, breaching the girdle of Melian and all.:cool: I bet Celegorm was sexy, I tend to like bad guys that are driven by lust. :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by BeardofPants





Yeah, he's a bit of a pretty boy. Do you think he's gay? :p No he's not gay. He has a girlfriend you know? So there!:p :D

[Coney]

*struggles through the oestrogen fog*

yeesh! the "educated" fangirl thread:p

*runs away*..................*quickly*

[Sister Golden Hair]

Pretty scary huh?:D

[Earniel]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
No he's not gay. He has a girlfriend you know? So there!:p :D

Who very conveniently stayed in Valinor. Coincedence? Naaaaaah! :D

yeesh! the "educated" fangirl thread

LOL :D

[Artanis]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Yeah, he's a bit of a pretty boy. Do you think he's gay? :p If he and Beren weren't chained in the pits of Sauron, who knows what would have happened :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

You guys just think you are so funny.:p

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Well, with a sword it was.:D Ahh yes. Always good with his sword. :D

[Lefty Scaevola]

Finwe has the rep of being the most attractive to elven ladies. So far As we know he is the only person in history to have been mated to two different evlen ladies. A person of Great charisma who in short order created an centralized monarchy amongst a fractious tribal people. Raven dark Black hair, stricking blue grey eyes. Dearly loved even by the supreme egotist, Feanor, who would abandon home and wife, and expend his sons for his pride and revenge.

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Artanis
If he and Beren weren't chained in the pits of Sauron, who knows what would have happened :D

Hee hee. :D

SGH:
You guys just think you are so funny. :p

Who's being funny? It's not our fault you ended up chained to a pansy boy. :p

[cassiopeia]

Originally posted by Artanis
If he and Beren weren't chained in the pits of Sauron, who knows what would have happened :D
Don't say that, you'll give slash writers ideas! :rolleyes: :)

Proof Feanor is hot (from the Quenta Silmarillion):
Then he died; but he had neither burial nor tomb, for so fiery was his spirit that as it sped his body fell to ash, and was borne away like smoke; and his likeness has never again appeared in Arda, neither has his spirit left the halls of Mandos. Thus ended the mightiest of the Noldor, of whose deeds came both their greatest renown and their most grievous woe.

So there! :p

[Tessar]

Wow... This is like... An older generation of fan-girls...

You scare me SGH...

[Sister Golden Hair]

Who's being funny? It's not our fault you ended up chained to a pansy boy.Listen "fart blossom" It's not my fault that you are in love with a loser. JEALOUS!:p

[Sister Golden Hair]

You scare me SGH...As it should be. Mwahahahahahah!

What are you doing here Tessar? You scare me. I never hardly see you outside of GMs.:D

[Tessar]

Then I guess you don't go to the RPG forum. I hardly even look at general now :).

I'm here because... Well, I was just browsing around.

And as you said... I should scare you. Maybe we should run away from each other? ;)

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Tessar
Then I guess you don't go to the RPG forum. I hardly even look at general now :).

I'm here because... Well, I was just browsing around.

And as you said... I should scare you. Maybe we should run away from each other? ;) No, I don't go to the RPG forum unless I have to.

Run away from each other? I thought we did that.:confused: :p

[Rían]

You guys are funny!

Watch out, Coney, here comes more estrogen!

I agree with Eärniel - Tuor's hot! What a man! A great fighter, loves his wife and child with all his heart, defends his father-in-law (until the castle falls down on him), helps Ecthelion when he's wounded, helps the refugees away from Gondolin, etc. from BoLT II, The Fall of Gondolin:
...but Tuor fared home with the folk of the Wing. Now Tuor did this, thought his valour leapt to the noise of war, that he might take farewell of Idril and Eärendil, and speed them with a bodyguard down the secret way ere he returned himself to the battle throng to die if must be....yet of the leap of that axe Dramborleg that was swung by the hand of Tuor were they still more afraid, for it sang like the rush of eagle's wings in the air and took death as it fell, and five of them went down before it....Now was Tuor torn sorely between his reverence for the king and the love for Idril and his child...

Beren?? He fell asleep when he was with Melkor! Big help! (well, ok, everyone else fell asleep too, and he was quite a guy defending Lúthien from Carcharoth with nothing but his bare hands!) from The Lay of Leithian:
and Beren desperate then aside
thrust Lúthien, and forth did stride
unarmed, defenceless to defend
Tinúviel until the end.

[BeardofPants]

You have a point there, Rian. Wouldn't want Beren to fall asleep during crucial moments. :D
Can't see Feanor suffering from that problem. :p

Listen "fart blossom" It's not my fault that you are in love with a loser. JEALOUS!
Hey, who are you calling Fart Blossom, Barnacle Breath? :mad: Don't get mad at me, just because your guy was idiotic enough to go chasing after an oversized evil black entity. :p

[Coney]

Watch out, Coney, here comes more estrogen!

Took me 20mins to find my way out last time:D

"Fart Blossm"? "Barnacle Breath"?............you ladies are worse than the kids:rolleyes: :D ................. 'tis hilarious tho';)

*runs again..........breathing in all the oestrogen fog is making this Coney feel a little "happy"*

[cassiopeia]

This thread is more savage than an Elijah vs. Orlando thread! :D Educated fangirls are scary. :) I'm trying to read The Sil you know and now I keep thinking how hot Feanor is. :rolleyes:
More quotes:
Feanor grew swiftly, as if a secret fire were kindled within him. He was tall, and fair of face, and masterful, his eyes piercingly bright and his hair raven-dark; in the pursuit of all his purposes eager and steadfast.
Seldom were the hands and mind of Feanor at rest.
I like the last quote. :D

[Blackboar]

Originally posted by Coney
Took me 20mins to find my way out last time:D

"Fart Blossm"? "Barnacle Breath"?............you ladies are worse than the kids:rolleyes: :D ................. 'tis hilarious tho';)

*runs again..........breathing in all the oestrogen fog is making this Coney feel a little "happy"*

Yeah!! Totally worse than all us fangirls!

I'm seeing a whole new side to SGH!:D :rolleyes:

[Artanis]

Originally posted by cassiopeia
Don't say that, you'll give slash writers ideas! :rolleyes: :) Hey, they've already brought up much worse ideas than that :rolleyes: :D

You have a point there, Rian. Wouldn't want Beren to fall asleep during crucial moments.
Can't see Feanor suffering from that problem. Seldom were the hands and mind of Feanor at rest.Fall asleep? Be at rest? No-no, but he would be far too busy with his own jewels to fiddle with yours. :D

Nay, Beleg is the Elf. Great woodsman and hunter, strong and best skilled with his weapon. :D

[Elvet]

I'm always interested in learning more about the Silm. , but found out way more about the posters. You go girls:D

[Earniel]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
I agree with Eärniel - Tuor's hot! What a man! A great fighter, loves his wife and child with all his heart, defends his father-in-law (until the castle falls down on him), helps Ecthelion when he's wounded, helps the refugees away from Gondolin, etc.


Quite right. :D Where as Feänor and Finrod were kicked out of Valinor, Tuor was allowed in!

In those days Tuor felt old age creep upon him, and ever a longing for the deeps of the sea grew stronger in his heart. therefore he built a great ship, and he named it Eärramé, which is Sea-Wing; and with Idril Celebrindal he set sail into the sunset and the West, and came no more into any tale or song. But in after days it was sung that Tuor alone of Mortal Men was numbered among the elder race, and was joined with the Noldor, whom he loved; and his fate is sundered from the fate of Men.

[Sween]

this thread worries me. Ne way berens the fittest of all men and elf cos he pulled the proper smart woman (even though melian was probably quite cute as well)

[Khamûl]

Seldom were the hands and mind of Feanor at rest.*almost hurts himself from laughing so hard* I nearly fell out of my chair when I read that. :D

You people need to get your minds out of the gutter. :p

[Rían]

Originally posted by Eärniel
Quite right. :D Where as Feänor and Finrod were kicked out of Valinor, Tuor was allowed in!

Right on!

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Khamûl
You people need to get your minds out of the gutter. :p

Yeah, and what were *you* laughing at, O Sweet and Innocent Super-Mod? :p

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Eärniel
Quite right. :D Where as Feänor and Finrod were kicked out of Valinor, Tuor was allowed in!
Bah, what a goody-two-shoes. :p Who wants to be there anyway? Place is overrated, with all those elves nancing around. :rolleyes:

[Khamûl]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Yeah, and what were *you* laughing at, O Sweet and Innocent Super-Mod? :p Hey, my mind was only down there because it was dragged down there. :D

I think it's close between Fingolfin and Beren. Fingolfin because he's my current favorite elf king, and Beren because he's the only man in the Silmarillion to marry the most beautiful elf in Middle Earth and beyond.

[azalea]

But Beren has the cooler name.:p

[Rían]

I like Beleg, too, Artanis - the strong, mysterious type, and what a good pal to Turin.

I'm reading thru The Lay of Leithian, and got to the part where Finrod and Beren were before Thu - I had to read CRT's little commentary before I realized that the false names they gave to Thu were their own names backwards! (i.e., Nereb and Dungalef)! Did you guys realize that?

Let's see - Dornif, Ronaef, Geleb, Rout, ...

[Artanis]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
I like Beleg, too, Artanis - the strong, mysterious type, and what a good pal to Turin.Come along, RÃ*an, I'll give you a share! :D Let's see - Dornif, Ronaef, Geleb, Rout, ... Oh my Eru, I just realized what Artanis says backwards ... :eek: :rolleyes:

[Rían]

Originally posted by Artanis
Come along, RÃ*an, I'll give you a share! :D
What a pal you are! :D

Oh my Eru, I just realized what Artanis says backwards ... :eek: :rolleyes:
*writes out 'Artanis' backwards.... * Oh, how funny!!
*writes out RÃ*an backwards.... * Oh, that was a chemical hair-removal product, wasn't it?

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
What a pal you are! :D


*writes out 'Artanis' backwards.... * Oh, how funny!!
*writes out RÃ*an backwards.... * Oh, that was a chemical hair-removal product, wasn't it? OMG, Sinatra and Nair. Artanis can sing to Rian while she sheds:D

[Rían]

Oy, what an image! :eek:

I think I'll go back to thinking of Tuor and Beleg!

[Earniel]

But Beren has the cooler name. I like Beleg, too

It's funny that both names means something in Dutch. :D

Beren means 'bears' (plural of bear). This is rather cool because it reminds me of scandinavian myths.

But Beleg means 'siege' which is still something I can live with but it also means something else. *sniggers* I don't know the right English translation but it's the things you put on a slice of bread or a sandwich. This might just be me but it is such an odd name for a heroic elf. *can't stop sniggering*:D :rolleyes:

[Rían]

That's funny, Eärniel - I wonder how many of Tolkien's names mean something in other languages? It reminds me of the name of a car in the US - "Nova" - supposed to refer to the star explosion, but also means "Doesn't go" (no va) in Spanish! Bad name for a car!

Does Beleg mean something like "baloney" - the dubious mixture of processed meats that goes into a sandwich? "Baloney" also has two meanings in the US - it also means something that's stupid or unbelievable. That would be pretty funny to have an elf hero named "Baloney"!

"Bear" is a nice name for Beren :)

[Artanis]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
Does Beleg mean something like "baloney" - the dubious mixture of processed meats that goes into a sandwich? "Baloney" also has two meanings in the US - it also means something that's stupid or unbelievable. That would be pretty funny to have an elf hero named "Baloney"!I don't want to hear this. *closes ears* Now you may speak. :)

[BeardofPants]

LOL! :D

In New Zealand, baloney means "rubbish." We call it luncheon meat.

[Earniel]

Well basically 'Beleg' is a collective noun. It means anything that goes on bread or a sandwich. So it can range from cheese to meat to paste to salad or too whatever people put on it.... I started to say 'Beleg' instead of 'Beleg' so I don't constantly think about food when I read about the poor guy. :D

*thinks of an elf named Baloney...* Neh neh neh! :D

[Dwarven Sen]

I think in the end I'm a Feanor kind of girl, though i wouldn't say no to Tuor. I'm not easy, I'm just open to suggestion.

[Rían]

Originally posted by Eärniel
Well basically 'Beleg' is a collective noun. It means anything that goes on bread or a sandwich. So it can range from cheese to meat to paste to salad or too whatever people put on it.... I started to say 'Beleg' instead of 'Beleg' so I don't constantly think about food when I read about the poor guy. :D
Hmmm, I suppose a rough equivalent in English might be "fillings", but I can't think of a better translation right now.
I pronounce his name 'Beleg' - is that wrong? (accent on first syllable)

*thinks of an elf named Baloney...* Neh neh neh! :D
hee hee!


And now, for your poetical enjoyment, from The Lays of Beleriand, Vol. III of HoME, this stirring quote:
from The Lay of Lúncheon.. uh, Leithian, lines 785-788
And thus in hunger Baloney paid
for that great meal upon him laid,
the deathless love of Lúncheon,
too tasty for love of mortal men;

[Coney]

MMmmm...........Super-Size McBeleg Burger, Hobbit McNuggets and fries:cool:


from The Lay of Lúncheon.. uh, Leithian, lines 785-788
And thus in hunger Baloney paid
for that great meal upon him laid,
the deathless love of Lúncheon,
too tasty for love of mortal men;


Brill.........:D :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Hmmm, I suppose a rough equivalent in English might be "fillings", but I can't think of a better translation right now. Meatbi products. Tongue, nose, lips etc...
:p

[Earniel]

from The Lay of Lúncheon.. uh, Leithian, lines 785-788
And thus in hunger Baloney paid
for that great meal upon him laid,
the deathless love of Lúncheon,
too tasty for love of mortal men;

*dies laughing with tears in her eyes* :D Good one RÃ*an, real good one.

[Rían]

*whispers from under her bed, where she has been hiding in mortal fear of SGH's ASOW (Admin Stick of Wrath) for mutilating a beautiful work of Tolkien's - "thanks, guys!" :D *

[Sister Golden Hair]

Come out, come out, where ever you are.:mad: :p :D

[Rían]

Not until you tell me where 'safe' is!

OK, OK, I apologize - will you put your stick away? I promise to be good for at least an hour or so :)

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
Not until you tell me where 'safe' is!

OK, OK, I apologize - will you put your stick away? I promise to be good for at least an hour or so :) Only if you say that Finrod rules, he da Elf.:D

[Rían]

*grumble grumble* Ok, good thing for you I like Finrod! *RÃ*an's eyes mist up as she thinks of Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth*

Finrod rules, he da Elf!!

(But Tuor's the man for me :) - at least in Tolkien's world :D )

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
*grumble grumble* Ok, good thing for you I like Finrod! *RÃ*an's eyes mist up as she thinks of Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth*

Finrod rules, he da Elf!!

(But Tuor's the man for me :) - at least in Tolkien's world :D ) I guess that will do. Ok, the big stick is put away. You can stick your little pointy head out and I promise not to bop you.:D

[Maedhros]

This is just too funny. I have to congratulate the posters here because though I have seen the quotes before, I wouldn't have dreamt of using them as you have.:D

[Rían]

*crawls out from under bed*

Whew! Those dust bunnies were starting to get to me! a-ah-CHOO! :D

Yes, this has been a fun thread :)

[Arien the Maia]

I am new at this but I have to say that Feanor is the hottest guy in the Sil. (Even though he's kinda proud):D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
I am new at this but I have to say that Feanor is the hottest guy in the Sil. (Even though he's kinda proud):D Looks and talent don't mean much when you're a total jerk. Now a guy like Finrod has everything. There's a dude that is hard to top.

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Looks and talent don't mean much when you're a total jerk. Now a guy like Finrod has everything. There's a dude that is hard to top.

I hold Melkor to blame for most of Feanor's problems...I agree that Finrod was a great guy...helping Beren and all!...still Feanor was the greatest of all the Noldor:)

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
I hold Melkor to blame for most of Feanor's problems...I agree that Finrod was a great guy...helping Beren and all!...still Feanor was the greatest of all the Noldor:) Only because of his creations. He also was the cause of all their griefs.

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Only because of his creations. He also was the cause of all their griefs.

Still Feanor didn't make his sons swear the oath...and everything he told the Noldor was from what Melkor had told him...regarding men and the valar

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Only because of his creations. He also was the cause of all their griefs.

Well, that's because he's a complex character! :p

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Well, that's because he's a complex character! :p

I agree! :D

[Arien the Maia]

I decided to get this thread going again....what do you think it would have been like to have been married to Eol? I was just thinking that when I was reading the Sil.

[Linaewen]

Uh, is Legolas a man of the Silmarillion? J/k! No, I'm not doing that Legolas thing again.

I'd have to say.....Beren...whoa! :p :D

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
I decided to get this thread going again....what do you think it would have been like to have been married to Eol? I was just thinking that when I was reading the Sil.
*thinking* I think it would have been like having a very large weight tied to your ankle, your hands bound behind your back, and then you are thrown into a very deep lake. *begins to gasp because she can't breath*

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Ruinel
*thinking* I think it would have been like having a very large weight tied to your ankle, your hands bound behind your back, and then you are thrown into a very deep lake. *begins to gasp because she can't breath*

:D yes I was getting that impression too!

He seems like one of thoses Elves who has to have his meal on the table , and the laundry done when he comes home from his hard day of making weapons!

[Artanis]

IMO, Eöl's problem was that he didn't love Aredhel. I think he only desired her, and wanted to possess her.

But even if he had married his 'true love', I think he may have been difficult to live with. Always in the dark, shunning daylight.

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Artanis
IMO, Eöl's problem was that he didn't love Aredhel. I think he only desired her, and wanted to possess her.

But even if he had married his 'true love', I think he may have been difficult to live with. Always in the dark, shunning daylight.

Was that natural for an Elf to lust?

[Artanis]

I think it was natural for the Elves' bodies to feel lust, in the same way as hunger, thirst, weariness and so on. But compared to Men they had much more control over these feelings through their spirits.

Also I'm not sure it was lust, or lust only that made Eöl take Aredhel to his home. He thought her fair, so maybe he just wanted to possess her as a valuable gem at his hand. Or he may have known or guessed who she was, and thought it a sweet revenge to 'steal' the sister of a mighty Noldorin king. As we know, he had little love for the Noldor.

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Artanis

Also I'm not sure it was lust, or lust only that made Eöl take Aredhel to his home. He thought her fair, so maybe he just wanted to possess her as a valuable gem at his hand. Or he may have known or guessed who she was, and thought it a sweet revenge to 'steal' the sister of a mighty Noldorin king. As we know, he had little love for the Noldor.

yes that's true...how horrible for poor Aredhel
:(

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I've heard some people say that he raped Aredhel, but the way I remembered it, he seduced her. Which is right? :confused:

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
I've heard some people say that he raped Aredhel, but the way I remembered it, he seduced her. Which is right? :confused:

I remeber reading somewhere, that if someone took an elf by force then that elf's fea could leave the hroa because it was being violated...or something like that....I think in the published Sil, that Aredhel was lost and Eol just seduced her...the deceiver!:mad:

[Artanis]

In the published Sil, Eöl used 'magic' to lead Aredhel to his house, but after that she stayed, at least partly willing.And it came to pass that he saw Aredhel Ar-Feiniel as she strayed among the tall trees near the borders of Nan Elmoth, a gleam of white in the dim land. Very fair she seemed to him, and he desired her; and he set his enchantments about her so that she could not find the ways out, but drew ever nearer to his dwelling in the depths of the wood. There were his smithy, and his dim halls, and such servants as he had, silent and secret as their master. And when Aredhel, weary with wandering, came at last to his doors, he revealed himself; and he welcomed her, and led her into his house. And there she remained; for Eöl took her to wife, and it was long ere any of her kin heard of her again.

It is not said that Aredhel was wholly unwilling, nor that her life in Nan Elmoth was hateful to her for many years. For though at Eöl's command she must shun the sunlight, they wandered far together under the stars or by the light of the sickle moon; or she might fare alone as she would, save that Eöl forbade her to seek the sons of Fëanor, or any others of the Noldor. And Aredhel bore to Eöl a son in the shadows of Nan Elmoth, ....

I think the rape part is in Morgoth's Ring, "Laws and customs among the Eldar", but I'm not sure of it.

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Artanis
In the published Sil, Eöl used 'magic' to lead Aredhel to his house, but after that she stayed, at least partly willing.

I think the rape part is in Morgoth's Ring, "Laws and customs among the Eldar", but I'm not sure of it.

did Tolkien ever write about an elf raping another elf?

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
did Tolkien ever write about an elf raping another elf? Oh no! I think that would be very 'un-Tolkienish'. OK, let's see if I can find the quote you were talking about..... All right, there it is, from Morgoth's Ring, Laws and customs among the Eldar:The Eldar wedded once only in life, and for love or at the leastby free will upon either part. Even when in after days, as the histories reveal, many of the Eldar in Middle-earth became corrupted, and their hearts darkened by the shadow that lies upon Arda, seldom is any tale told of deeds of lust among them. (5) And the corresponding note: ... But among all these evils there is no record of any among the Elves that took another's spouse by force; for this was wholly against their nature, and one so forced would have rejected bodily life and passed to Mandos.

[Arien the Maia]

ahhh...I see...so they could reject bodily life if they were being forced to do something they didn't want to do

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Linaewen
Uh, is Legolas a man of the Silmarillion? J/k! No, I'm not doing that Legolas thing again.Legolas Greenleaf was an Elf in Gondolin. :D

[Inderjit Sanghera]

Just a statement to any confused by Artanis's statement: Legolas of FoG and the Fellowship aren't the same person. Well it is 99.9999999999999999 per cent certain they weren't.

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Inderjit Sanghera
Just a statement to any confused by Artanis's statement: Legolas of FoG and the Fellowship aren't the same person. Well it is 99.9999999999999999 per cent certain they weren't.
I think Inderjit is right. These 2 Legolases... Legolasae... Legolasi? Anyway... they are not the same Elf.

I will need to check the first post, but I thought this thread was about Men, not Elves.

[Sister Golden Hair]

I thought this thread was about Men, not Elves.I should have titled it "Males of the Silmarillion." That's what it is suppose to be about.

[Ruinel]

Ah, yes. I just read it. And of course, you started out exclaiming your love for Finrod (my boyfriend/fiance). But all is forgiven, SGH. And I gave you the FF that posts on the Moot as a consolation prize. :p ;) :D

Does that remind you of the good old times? LOL!

[Sister Golden Hair]

Don't start! :p :D

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Don't start! :p :D
ROFLMAO!!!

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Ruinel
I think Inderjit is right. These 2 Legolases... Legolasae... Legolasi? Anyway... they are not the same Elf. Hehe. Of course they're not the same Elf. I just wanted to give Lin something to think about. :D

[Ruinel]

Ah.. ok.. :D

[Utumno]

The thought of a lot of these elves is intoxicating... but especially Fingon, Fingolfin, and even Feanor :eek:.

Why doesn't Glorfindel ride to me on a white horse and give me elvish drink, I'd take a nazgul blade for it.

I'd hang from my wrist for ages to be rescued by Fingon. :D

And what wouldn't I give for a little time in Nerdanel's place just after the marriage?

Heck, I'd probably even go for Curufin and Maeglin, being as how they are so skilled and crafty and... such. hehehe

But I have to say that on a serious note if I could have any elf I'd not be any of them.

And though I love Finrod I know he has Amarie. I think I'd go for Gildor (who seems very fun and is charming) or Pengolodh... he seem so sweet. But there are tons of others such as Voronwe... a lot of great elves.

[Inderjit Sanghera]

Quite the fetish there Utumno. Heck if you rephrased the Glorfindel thingy then you may come out with something QUITE rude. ;) :p

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Utumno


And what wouldn't I give for a little time in Nerdanel's place just after the marriage?



you might have some competition:D Feanor is spoken for;)

[Linaewen]

Originally posted by Artanis
Hehe. Of course they're not the same Elf. I just wanted to give Lin something to think about. :D
You certainly did! *wonders if the Legolas thing will start again* Nope, Beren & Beleg all the way! *swoon* <-- look, Ruinel!! :eek:

[Lalaith]

Turin I guess. I don't know why.

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Utumno
And though I love Finrod I know he has Amarie.
O.o Finrod is spoken for... and not by Amarie. :mad: ;) :p :D


Linaewen: good job on the swooning. ;) very nice.

[Artanis]

Ehem - Lin - Beleg is also spoken for ... :D

[Linaewen]

Originally posted by Artanis
Ehem - Lin - Beleg is also spoken for ... :D
Awww, come on. Surely, we couldn't share him? I have no qualms about that! (Heck, it's been done before! ;) )

Artanis, what happened to Celeborn? Naughty, naughty!:D

[Artanis]

Hehe. Sharing is fine, but we'll see if there's anything left for you when I'm finished with him. :D

Yes, yes. Naughty Galadriel. What you didn't know about her ... :D

[Elvengirl]

:( you mean Legolas is not an option? ;) JUST KIDDING :D

I'd much rather go for Glorfindel.

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Artanis
... Naughty Galadriel. What you didn't know about her ... :D
O.o :eek: :eek:

[Elvengirl]

Off topic I know but I 've been meaning to ask, what does the two o's mean? O.o?

[Linaewen]

Originally posted by Artanis
Hehe. Sharing is fine, but we'll see if there's anything left for you when I'm finished with him. :D
Oooh. Plenty of Cúthalion to go around for all. ;D After all, he didn't have a lady or anything, did he? It's just us two, Artanis. ;)


Yes, yes. Naughty Galadriel. What you didn't know about her ... :D [/B]
:eek: Artanis is the side of Galadriel that the hobbits didn't see. ;) The one who runs around fixing cars in racy red lingerie. :D :p

Elvengirl, imagine those o's are eyes. One big, one small. I'm surprised you haven't asked about them before- they've been seen everywhere!

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Elvengirl
Off topic I know but I 've been meaning to ask, what does the two o's mean? O.o?

the 'o's are like eyes. the period is a nose. :)

O.O this is like shock or surprise. :)

O.o is like one eyebrow raised where one eye appears more open than the other. :)

I've also seen.... O_O and O_o where the underscore is a mouth.
Hope this helps.

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Linaewen
Oooh. Plenty of Cúthalion to go around for all. ;D After all, he didn't have a lady or anything, did he? It's just us two, Artanis. ;)All right, all right. It'll be sharing between friends then. ;):eek: Artanis is the side of Galadriel that the hobbits didn't see. ;) The one who runs around fixing cars in racy red lingerie. :D :pLOL! :p And Celeborn does the laundry. :D

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Artanis
LOL! :p And Celeborn does the laundry. :D
SSSSSssssssssswwwwwwwwweeeet! :D
Where can I get an Elf-nér that does my laundry and doesn't mind me spending my romantic time with Finrod? Hey, I would even settle for an Atan-nér! Hook me up, girl, hook me up! :D

[Elvengirl]

Originally posted by Linaewen
Elvengirl, imagine those o's are eyes. One big, one small. I'm surprised you haven't asked about them before- they've been seen everywhere!

Your right, I've been wondering what they are for awhile. So thanks for clearing that up for me :D

[Rían]

Just thought I'd resurrect this thread -we were discussing it over in the Quote game ...

[Artanis]

Jewels! I had forgotten that one! :D
Whoa!

[Rían]

so ... any changes of opinions, anyone, on who's the guy for you in the Sil? (or HOME, etc.) Are Earniel and I still fighting over Tuor? Does Arty still swoon over Beleg? (is that still in your sig?)

[Artanis]

Yes, Beleg is still in the lead. But he now has compete with both Findekáno and Maitimo. And I like Makalaure too. Phuuh! There are so many great men! It's getting rather hot here ...

[Rían]

*hands fan to Arty, fans self with another fan*

[Valandil]

Don't you girls know it's best to let sleeping threads lie... ;)

[Rían]

Originally posted by Artanis
But he now has compete with both Findekáno and Maitimo. And I like Makalaure too.
I always liked the description of how Findekáno wore his hair ("long dark hair in great plaits braided with gold")

Who's Makalaure? Isn't that the guy that played Lurz in the movie? :D :eek: ;)


poor Celeborn ... :D

[Rían]

Originally posted by Valandil
Don't you girls know it's best to let sleeping threads lie... ;) Not when they're this fun!

Tuor is still my human pick; I'm working on my elvish pick ... I rather like Finrod, but am leery of taking on SGH and Ruinel ... :eek:

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
so ... any changes of opinions, anyone, on who's the guy for you in the Sil? (or HOME, etc.) Are Earniel and I still fighting over Tuor? Does Arty still swoon over Beleg? (is that still in your sig?)

nope...I still think that Feanaro is the best! (followed closely by Caranthir, and Curufin)...although I'm beginning to like Annatar as well:D ...I like the dark characters:)

[Valandil]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
Tuor is still my human pick; I'm working on my elvish pick ... I rather like Finrod, but am leery of taking on SGH and Ruinel ... :eek:

So you need one of each?

Uh... 'fem-only' thread?

[Artanis]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
I always liked the description of how Findekáno wore his hair ("long dark hair in great plaits braided with gold")I have always liked everything about Findekáno. :)
Who's Makalaure? Isn't that the guy that played Lurz in the movie? :D :eek: ;)LOL! RÃ*an, have you forgotten your Shibboleth? Kanafinwë Makalaure. Second son of Fëanor.
poor Celeborn ... :D Pah. He's married to me, that should be enough for him. :D

Oh and thanks for the fan, I need it ...

[Falagar]

LOL! RÃ*an, have you forgotten your Shibboleth? Kanafinwë Makalaure. Second son of Fëanor.
Translation: Maglor. And I think most Elves dumped the shibboleth sometime during the First Age. ;)

[Rían]

Originally posted by Valandil
So you need one of each?
Well, I'm "halfelven" .... ;)

Uh... 'fem-only' thread?
Oh no, not at all - it was started in response to the Orli-swooning threads, it's just fun and silly, and the guys have made some of the funniest comments!

OK, Arty, I'm afraid I'm going with Fingon - my husband has always reminded me of him. Altho his hair isn't in plaits, it's a lovely "dark hair", and he's a big strong guy who loves to help people and is the first to volunteer for tough jobs. I've always loved the part where Fingon just heads off on his own to save Maedhros - reminds me of something hubby would do. Tuor reminds me of him, too. Go guys!

[Rían]

Originally posted by Falagar
Translation: Maglor. And I think most Elves dumped the shibboleth sometime during the First Age. ;)
Þilly elves! ;)

(note to people that don't know - read "The Shibboleth of Feanor" in The Peoples of Middle Earth if you're curious about it - great read!)

[Rían]

Originally posted by Artanis
LOL! RÃ*an, have you forgotten your Shibboleth? Kanafinwë Makalaure. Second son of Fëanor.
Oh, I can't keep all those names straight! Maglor wasn't one of my favorites, anyway.

[Rían]

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
nope...I still think that Feanaro is the best! (followed closely by Caranthir, and Curufin)...although I'm beginning to like Annatar as well:D ...I like the dark characters:)
Arien! The C brothers?! I must protest! And Annatar? - no, not a good idea! I can see an attraction for Feanor, esp. because of the grief he went thru, but ugh! I've never liked the C's, and Annatar is definitely not a candidate for me.

I'll share Fingon with you, if you'd like (we're talking about one Fingon for each of us, to keep it proper :D ) - Arty said I could have him. Or better yet, stay with your Feanaro - I think Arien and Feanaro go well together. :)

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
Arien! The C brothers?! I must protest! And Annatar? - no, not a good idea! I can see an attraction for Feanor, esp. because of the grief he went thru, but ugh! I've never liked the C's, and Annatar is definitely not a candidate for me.

I'll share Fingon with you, if you'd like (we're talking about one Fingon for each of us, to keep it proper :D ) - Arty said I could have him. Or better yet, stay with your Feanaro - I think Arien and Feanaro go well together. :)

:D lol! yes 2 Spirits of Fire go well together I suppose! I only like the "C" brothers b/c they resemble Feanor in appearance and mood.

recently I've been coming up with these stories based on Tolkien's characters and Annatar plays a crucial role....what if he could have been turned to good? After all, there was still some good in him wasn't there? Maia belongs with Maia afterall:p

[Rían]

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
:D lol! yes 2 Spirits of Fire go well together I suppose! I only like the "C" brothers b/c they resemble Feanor in appearance and mood.
Yes, I see what you mean - I just have a soft spot in my heart for Feanor, tho, that I don't have for the C brothers, because of the terrible murder of his father. I don't recall anything offhand particularly nice that the C brothers did. Of the 7 sons, Maedhros is much more to my liking - I really like his part in the ship-burning story - his immediate thought is of course, we're sending the ships back for my bud Fingon! and he stood aside when the ships burned.

recently I've been coming up with these stories based on Tolkien's characters and Annatar plays a crucial role....what if he could have been turned to good? After all, there was still some good in him wasn't there?
I think Annatar reached a point where his decisions put him past redemption :( but he certainly could have turned out different, and it was a tremendous loss for him to have turned bad.

Maia belongs with Maia afterall:p
Tell that to Melian! :D

But enough seriousness! Yes, I think Fingon, altho I really like Finrod's heart, too - but I think the dark hair of Fingon decides it! :D Hmm, what's a mix of the two - Fingod, Finron?

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Falagar
Translation: Maglor. And I think most Elves dumped the shibboleth sometime during the First Age. ;) Well they shouldn't have done so. Those quenya names are just marvellous. :) Originally posted by RÃ*an
Arty said I could have him.Where did I say that? :eek:
Why don't we go for a sharing deal, as the one I have with Lin?

[Artanis]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
Maglor wasn't one of my favorites, anyway. But think of his poetry and singing! And his strong, commanding voice! Now that's a serious turn-on! :D
He also took care of Elrond and Elros. And he was very close to giving up the Oath.

Arien, Curufin and Caranthir may pass, though barely, but Annatar, really? :eek:

[Rían]

*Rats! I couldn't slip it by her!*

by Arty
Where did I say that?

Umm, here:

by Arty - um, well I wish by Arty
OK, RÃ*an, Fingon is all yours! I'm happy with Beleg and Maedhros and Maglor and occasionally Celeborn - you go ahead and take Fingon the valiant! ;)

and yes, I do like those points about Maglor - esp. how he really wanted to give up the oath at the end. I got the feeling he only stuck with it out of love for Maedhros. What do you think?

And btw, who's your human pick, if any?


OK, Arien - Arty's on my side - we two moms say Annatar must go, or you'll be grounded! Now go clean your room! ;)

[Artanis]

Heh - I do keep an eye on my men. :D
Originally posted by RÃ*an
I got the feeling he only stuck with it out of love for Maedhros. What do you think?I don't know whether it was love and/or respect for an elder brother, or if he really was convinced by Maedhros' arguments.
And btw, who's your human pick, if any?Human? That would be Húrin for the moment, but he just doesn't compare to the Elvish males.

[Arien the Maia]

LOL !! you guys!:p
I'm not giving up on annatar! He was disguised as beautiful afterall:p :D and I think that he could have been redeemed.;)

as far as Melian..well I don't know WHAT she was thinking about Thingol! (the worst Elf King ever!!!!)

I still say that a Maia belongs with a Maia!!!!:D

[Rían]

Originally posted by Artanis
[B]Heh - I do keep an eye on my men. :D Rats! I should have known I couldn't slip something by the "Greatest Elven woman of Aman"!

[Rían]

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
I'm not giving up on annatar!

*takes away Arien's sun-car keys* :D

What do you drive, anyway? A Nova?

[Sister Golden Hair]

You know, I was thinking about this thread the other day, and how all you fickle women have posted in threads about Finrod. How beautiful and wonderful he is, and then turned on him here. Rian, You chicken! BoP and Artanis, you guys are two timers.:p :D

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
BoP and Artanis, you guys are two timers.:p :D Hah! I'm a four-timer! At least! :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Artanis
Hah! I'm a four-timer! At least! :D Yeah, well see what I mean? In all the years since reading the Sil and everything else by Tolkien, I have stayed true to Finrod. Not to mention, I hear he had jewels too, nice ones, but he lost them in the sack.:D

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Not to mention, I hear he had jewels too, nice ones, but he lost them in the sack.:D

I don't even know HOW to respond to that. :eek:

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
I don't even know HOW to respond to that. :eek: LOL!:D

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
*takes away Arien's sun-car keys* :D

What do you drive, anyway? A Nova?

:D ...well, I must say that it is your lost after all!!! heheh....where would you get your warmth if not from my fiery self:p maybe I'll drive a New Beetle instead...a nice red or yellow one so that it will be visible!

[cassiopeia]

Feanor's still the hottest. *wanders away*

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
LOL!:D

I take back everything I ever said about him being gay. The poor guy's obviously a eunich! :eek:




:p

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by cassiopeia
Feanor's still the hottest. *wanders away*

DITTO!!!! YUMMY!!!:D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by cassiopeia
Feanor's still the hottest. *wanders away* There's just no accounting for some people's taste:rolleyes: ;)

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
I take back everything I ever said about him being gay. The poor guy's obviously a eunich! :eek:




:p How would you know that? Besides, from what I know of him, he is deadly with his sword.:p :p :p

[cassiopeia]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
There's just no accounting for some people's taste:rolleyes: ;)

At least he's got balls! :p :D

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
How would you know that? Besides, from what I know of him, he is deadly with his sword.:p :p :p

Well, he's obviously got an ego problem, if he's running off to someone with a BIGGER er... weapon. Unh.

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
There's just no accounting for some people's taste:rolleyes: ;)

Yes, especially when they're lusting after nanny-boo-boo-goldilocks. :p

[BeardofPants]

Yeah, Cass, as least Feanor's got some not like Mr. jewel-less over there! :p

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by cassiopeia
At least he's got balls! :p :D Yeah, and look what happened? Mogoth wanted them.

[cassiopeia]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Yeah, and look what happened? Mogoth wanted them.

Because they were so...uh, I don't know if I can keep this PG any longer. :D Shiny? Pretty? Fair?

Hmm, he did lose them, didn't he? Damn... :D

[Rían]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Rian, You chicken! Nah, I've given it serious thought now. I like and admire Finrod, but I think Fingon's the guy for me :) The dark hair settled it!

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
Nah, I've given it serious thought now. I like and admire Finrod, but I think Fingon's the guy for me :) The dark hair settled it! Fickle. fickle. fickle.:p

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by cassiopeia
Because they were so...uh, I don't know if I can keep this PG any longer. :D Shiny? Pretty? Fair?

Hmm, he did lose them, didn't he? Damn... :D :eek: You have a dirty mind.:D Everybody wanted Feanor's...er... stuff.:D

[BeardofPants]

Yeah, that's because he's good with his... er... stuff. :p

[Rían]

(BOP - check your PM's please :) )


Arty - I really admire Hurin, too - what a guy! - but somehow, Tuor's the guy I'd rather live with on a day-to-day basis. He just seemed to treasure Idril and Earendil so much, and he seemed much more passionate - just really in love with Idril. Fun! I love the account in FOG of how he would just grab her and kiss her, he loved her so much.

Hurin just seemed more distant - heck, when Morwen was dying, it was like he was chatting with a casual acquaintence :( but then again, after what he went thru, I suppose it's somewhat understandable. But I would have rather seen a more tender and loving last few minutes between the two of them. Yet even at the beginning, he seemed rather distant to her - of course, she had a bit of an attitude, like Turin.

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Yeah, well see what I mean? In all the years since reading the Sil and everything else by Tolkien, I have stayed true to Finrod. That's because you're obsessed. :p Yeah, and look what happened? Mogoth wanted them.Well he seems to have wanted Finrod's too. :p

Cass: Shiny? :D :p

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Artanis

Cass: Shiny?

Isn't that logical to assume? He WAS straight out of Valinor, right?

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Valandil
Isn't that logical to assume? He WAS straight out of Valinor, right? Well it was usually the eyes that were shining. :p

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Artanis
Well it was usually the eyes that were shining. :p

Huhhhn...?? Wasn't that what you were talking about?? :confused:

[Earniel]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
Are Earniel and I still fighting over Tuor?
Yes. :D Though I must admit, of late I've been thinking of claiming Ecthelion, Lord of Fountains, for myself as well.

BTW, this thread is still as hilarious as ever. :D

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Valandil
Huhhhn...?? Wasn't that what you were talking about?? :confused: So you think we're talking about EYE-balls, do you? :p ;)

[Valandil]

Originally posted by Artanis
So you think we're talking about EYE-balls, do you? :p ;)

Weren't you all just saying how his eyes were like jewels?? :)

[Artanis]

I think I'm gonna end this and get myself back to Beleg ...

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Valandil
Weren't you all just saying how his eyes were like jewels?? :) Uh...ummm...not exactly.

[BeardofPants]

Try family jewels, Val. :o :p

[Rían]

(I think he prob. knew that! :D)

Shiny?!?! That reminds me of some article I just read recently, where men are starting to do the hair removal thing, like on chests, necks, and, um, ... you get the picture ... :o Exactly why, I have NOOOOOO idea! One would think for purely reasons of physics, this would not be a good idea, but whatever ...

[Rían]

So Arty, what do you think of my Tuor/Hurin comparison? Have I changed your mind? (not that you'll pry Tuor away from me!)

[cassiopeia]

Once again we've dropped the Silmarillion forum down to somewhere near the gutter. :D

Yes, shiny. I was trying to remember why Morgoth wanted Feanor's jewels -- I mean balls -- oh, I give up. :rolleyes: :D

[Artanis]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
So Arty, what do you think of my Tuor/Hurin comparison? Have I changed your mind? (not that you'll pry Tuor away from me!) Hiya RÃ*an, I meant to answer you, but I got lost in all the jewels and stuff here. :D

No, I haven't changed my mind. I like Húrin because he was such a great warrior and because he showed such courage and stamina during his imprisonment by Morgoth. Tuor is great too, but he does not appeal to me like Húrin, maybe because his life is fairly easy. As for their seemingly difference in behaviour towards their wives, there is nothing indicating that Húrin was not as passionate towards Morwen before he went to the Nirnaeth. I don't think Húrin was the same man when he met Morwen again as he was when he left her all those years ago. Although being husband and wife they would probably seem like strangers to each other, both because they had been separated for so long, and because of the impact of Húrin's torment.

[Rían]

Of course, considering how Tuor acted towards Idril at the end of his life .... I've never understood that :confused: , but obviously, it was just a nassssty rumor that Tolkien accidentally printed.

Still, I love all the little lines in FOG that refer to how smitten Tuor was with Idril. Tuor's the man for me!

But right now I'm in an elvish mood - take me away, Fingon!

Fingon, sweetie, ya gotta dump that Arty gal! She's 4-timin' ya! Stick with me - you won't regret it! I'm the BEST of both worlds - human and elvish. My evil twin sister naiR got the worst of both kindreds.

*whistles innocently*

[Rían]

Originally posted by Artanis
Tuor is great too, but he does not appeal to me like Húrin, maybe because his life is fairly easy. Fairly Easy? Fairly Easy?! Hmmmmph! The poor guy's father dies before he's born, his mother (that was another RÃ*an, btw - I wouldn't leave my baby!) leaves him and dies of grief, he's raised away from all his relatives by people of another race in a dangerous area, he gets captured and enslaved by the Easterlings, he escapes and lives alone and does such damage to the Easterlings all by himself that there's a price on his head, he goes on a difficult and lonely quest to get to Gondolin - and all that before the FOG. And in FOG he loves Idril passionately and fights like a major stud-muffin! And after the FOG he has to lead the ragged band of survivors for years. I suppose compared to Hurin's torments it was an easy life, but EVERYONE had an easy life compared to Hurin.

But that's ok - less competition for Tuor now :)

[Artanis]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
Of course, considering how Tuor acted towards Idril at the end of his life .... I've never understood that :confused: , but obviously, it was just a nassssty rumor that Tolkien accidentally printed.Well it was a very early version of the story. :)
Fingon, sweetie, ya gotta dump that Arty gal! She's 4-timin' ya! Stick with me - you won't regret it! I'm the BEST of both worlds - human and elvish. My evil twin sister naiR got the worst of both kindreds. Don't think he will fall for that 'sweetie' thing dear. And you need not fear, because he's sharing me obviously I'm not going to take too much of him. There's plenty left for you. :D

[Artanis]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
Fairly Easy? Fairly Easy?! Hmmmmph! The poor guy's father dies before he's born, his mother (that was another RÃ*an, btw - I wouldn't leave my baby!) leaves him and dies of grief, he's raised away from all his relatives by people of another race in a dangerous area, he gets captured and enslaved by the Easterlings, he escapes and lives alone and does such damage to the Easterlings all by himself that there's a price on his head, he goes on a difficult and lonely quest to get to Gondolin - and all that before the FOG. And in FOG he loves Idril passionately and fights like a major stud-muffin! And after the FOG he has to lead the ragged band of survivors for years. I suppose compared to Hurin's torments it was an easy life, but EVERYONE had an easy life compared to Hurin.
Of course, that's why I like Húrin. :)

I imagine that Tuor had a happy childhood with Annael and the Grey-elves. Being rereaved of your parents when you're a toddler doesn't mar you for life. And I do think he was rather lucky compared to other main human characters in the Sil. He lived in bliss in Gondolin for many years, he had love and friendship, and the favour of Ulmo, and a great son.

[Rían]

Originally posted by Artanis
And you need not fear, because he's sharing me obviously I'm not going to take too much of him. There's plenty left for you. :D Nah, I'm an "all or nothing" type of gal :D I want the WHOLE Fingon, and I'm gonna have him! Besides, Fingon has read his HOME books and knows that Elves don't share in these matters :D

[Rían]

Originally posted by Artanis
I imagine that Tuor had a happy childhood with Annael and the Grey-elves. Being rereaved of your parents when you're a toddler doesn't mar you for life. And I do think he was rather lucky compared to other main human characters in the Sil. He lived in bliss in Gondolin for many years, he had love and friendship, and the favour of Ulmo, and a great son. That's true ....

but he's still a major stud-muffin! :D

[Artanis]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
Besides, Fingon has read his HOME books and knows that Elves don't share in these matters :D It says he cannot have more than one wife. Which isn't quite the same thing. :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

I didn't know you two were sweet on Fingon.:eek: You better watch out, cause I have had an eye for him for sometime. Of course Finrod is #1.:D

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I didn't know you two were sweet on Fingon.:eek: You better watch out, cause I have had an eye for him for sometime. Of course Finrod is #1.:D

Two-timing hypocrite! :mad:







;)

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I didn't know you two were sweet on Fingon.:eek: You better watch out, cause I have had an eye for him for sometime. Of course Finrod is #1.:D Yeah well, I like Findekáno very much, but he isn't my #1 choice either.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Two-timing hypocrite! :mad:







;) HA! You should talk. I've seen you pick so many different ones, including Finrod and Feanor, I lost count.
:p :D

[Earniel]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
HA! You should talk. I've seen you pick so many different ones, including Finrod and Feanor, I lost count.
:p :D
Perhaps she was just interested in robbing them all of their pants :D

[BeardofPants]

[shifty look]what makes you say that?[/shifty look]

:p;)

[Earniel]

A little tiger in Kenya told me.... :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Eärniel
Perhaps she was just interested in robbing them all of their pants :D OMG, that just makes me want to say something, but I can't.:D

[Rían]

*wonders if Elven men wear boxers or briefs* :eek:

[Rían]

Originally posted by Artanis
It says he cannot have more than one wife. Which isn't quite the same thing. :D :D

Nah, you're 4-timin' with a Fingon lookalike - the REAL dude is MINE, all MINE! mwahahaha!

[Nurvingiel]

Has anyone said Beren yet? There's a hottie. :D;)

[Rían]

Y'know, Nurv, I don't remember anyone claiming Beren yet - so far, he's all yours!

[Nurvingiel]

Woo hoo! I'm #1! (I'm willing to share hottie-worshipness with someone else.)

This is strictly a look but don't touch scenario. I wouldn't want to face Luthien's wrath! :eek:

Beren's hot! Yes! :D

[Rían]

Yeah, he's a pretty hot guy - I love how he goes after the wolf bare-handed to save Luthien! I prefer Tuor, tho.

Who's your elf pick?

[Nurvingiel]

Elf pick..... hm... I'm going to join the Feanor camp. ;) If I thought any ficticious character was sexy, I'd say him.

[Rían]

Watch out, Arien! Here comes Nurv! :D

I'm still with Fingon the valiant! *bats away Artanis*

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
Watch out, Arien! Here comes Nurv! :D

I'm still with Fingon the valiant! *bats away Artanis*

:D LOL

I certainly don't want to share my Spirit of Fire with anyone...so watch out!:p

[Nurvingiel]

Don't worry Arien, Beren's still my number one.

[Drgnslyer]

Regardless, I still think that Nurv is the hottest person ever


.......line's person.......

*sorry...inside joke*

[Nurvingiel]

Bwahaha! Congrats Drgn, you have officially spammed. (The corruption is complete.)

Beren is still the hottest guy in the Sil. I'm not really the first person to bring him up though, people were talking about Beren's fine self back on page three. :D

[BeardofPants]

I'm sorry, but Feanor's mine. And Eruvial's. We had him first. Hands OFF! :mad:





;)

PS Beren's mine as well. Bwahaha!

[Nurvingiel]

Okay already, jeesh! I can look can't I?

Beren's the man for me anyway. ;) :p

[cassiopeia]

I claim Feanor as well. Looks like we'll have to share him. Though he doesn't like to share very much, if we look at how he felt about the Silmarils, so I guess he's all mine. :D

[Artanis]

Originally posted by cassiopeia
I claim Feanor as well. Looks like we'll have to share him. Though he doesn't like to share very much, if we look at how he felt about the Silmarils, so I guess he's all mine. :D He doesn't have to like sharing for you to share him! :p

[Artanis]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
I'm still with Fingon the valiant! *bats away Artanis* :D
I will always be back!

[Arien the Maia]

I fI must share Feanor...then I warn you that a bloody and fiery battle will ensue....with of course ME being the victor! hahaha:D

If on the rare chance I loose...then I will settle for Annatar (no matter what Rian and Artanis say:p :D )

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
If on the rare chance I loose...then I will settle for Annatar (no matter what Rian and Artanis say:p :D ) Well with Annatar you will not have to worry about sharing. :p Good luck!

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Artanis
Well with Annatar you will not have to worry about sharing. :p Good luck!

I can help redeem him:D

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
I can help redeem him:D That's what all women think about men. :rolleyes: :p

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Artanis
That's what all women think about men. :rolleyes: :p

that is SO true!:D

[Rían]

Originally posted by Artanis
That's what all women think about men. :rolleyes: :p Just what I was going to say! :D

[Valandil]

Don't forget ladies... Valandil is also mentioned between the covers of the... book! I believe in the story; 'Rings of Power.' ;)

[Falagar]

Originally posted by Valandil
Don't forget ladies... Valandil is also mentioned between the covers of the... book! I believe in the story; 'Rings of Power.' ;)
But remember you're mentioned to be a kiddo. :p

[Beor]

Beor is in the books. Beor is hella cool. C'mon, Beor is sexy, right?

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Beor
Beor is in the books. Beor is hella cool. C'mon, Beor is sexy, right? Yeah, because he was Beren's gramps, so he had to be hot.:)

[Beor]

He just wasnt elvish, that's why everyone overlooks him. The poor guy led his people over the mountains, went to live with (Fingolfin, I think. probably wrong. maybe Fingon, one of those northern Elves), then had all his people destoryed. Cmon, dark hair, strong build, but not too strong, gentle (he willingly let go of his life! The dude was quite a guy.) ;) :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Beor
He just wasnt elvish, that's why everyone overlooks him. The poor guy led his people over the mountains, went to live with (Fingolfin, I think. probably wrong. maybe Fingon, one of those northern Elves), then had all his people destoryed. Cmon, dark hair, strong build, but not too strong, gentle (he willingly let go of his life! The dude was quite a guy.) ;) :D :eek: For shame! Beor left Estolad and went to live with Finrod in Nargothrond until he died.

[Beor]

Well, once again I bring dishonor to my family. For some reason, I always thought he went north. I also dishonor my namesake, and I will punish myself accordingly. Please, do not hold me in the disrespect that I deserve. I hang my head in shame.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Aw poor baby. I'll let you slide this time.:p :D

[Beor]

Well, I did screw up pretty bad there. A couple thwacks with the stick should do. ;) :D

[Rían]

Originally posted by Beor
Cmon, dark hair, ... Well, I was always a sucker for dark hair ... ok, Valandil, does it say your hair color anywhere? I'll think about it, but I imagine Tuor's gonna keep his #1 ranking...


"between the covers of the... book" :D *snerk!*

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Beor
Well, once again I bring dishonor to my family. For some reason, I always thought he went north. I also dishonor my namesake, and I will punish myself accordingly. Please, do not hold me in the disrespect that I deserve. I hang my head in shame.
You've been a very, very bad boy. ;)
*Bends Beor over her knee and gives him a sound spanking*
:mad: bad boy! bad Beor! :D ;) :D

[Valandil]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
Well, I was always a sucker for dark hair ... ok, Valandil, does it say your hair color anywhere? I'll think about it, but I imagine Tuor's gonna keep his #1 ranking...


"between the covers of the... book" :D *snerk!*

Well... can't be certain, but I believe we're told that Elendil had dark hair (?? or are we??) and we know Aragorn did. I've always thought there was a strong Beoran strain among the northern line of kings... on the other hand, maybe we can't therefore conclude that they ALL had dark hair (I've always pictured Isildur as a red-head, for some reason! :D ). Maybe you should use your imagination... 'sides, YOU might like the dark hair, but some of the others around here may prefer the blondes!

Glad somebody picked up on my 'between the covers' bit! :)

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Valandil
(I've always pictured Isildur as a red-head, for some reason! :D ) Hahaha! That explains a lot. Nice easy target, eh? :D

[Nurvingiel]

Lol Ru! :D

Beren's hot!

[Ruinel]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Lol Ru! :D

Beren's hot! Beren is hot. He's probably the hottest Atan of all. :D *swoons*

[Andúril]

Originally posted by cassiopeia
He's great with his hands, imagine what he could do with them.Whatever do you mean?

[Andúril]

Originally posted by Artanis
Beleg Cuthalion is one that trigger my fantasies.Fantasies? Do tell.

[Andúril]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Come now. Even the master says that he was the fairest and most beloved of the house of Finwe. What? He was the gayest looking elf of the house of Finwe?

[cassiopeia]

Originally posted by Andúril
Whatever do you mean?

Just what I said. *looks innocent* He likes to play with his balls, uh, silmarils. ;) :)

[Andúril]

Originally posted by azalea
I tend to like bad guys that are driven by lust.Excellent. I'll keep that in mind.

Originally posted by Rian
Beren?? He fell asleep when he was with Melkor!Melkor was gay as well? :eek:

[Andúril]

Originally posted by cassiopeia
Just what I said. *looks innocent* He likes to play with his balls, uh, silmarils. ;) :) Okay, I see. So you're a closet voyeur. You get turned on by the fact that:Seldom were the hands and mind of Feanor at rest....and you like to watch. Got it.

[Andúril]

Originally posted by Artanis
Beleg is.....best skilled with his weapon.Which weapon is this? Forgive me, the details have slipped my mind.

[BeardofPants]

Nah, Melkor wasn't the gay one, it was finrod. :p

[Andúril]

Originally posted by Khamûl
Beren because he's the only man in the Silmarillion to marry the most beautiful elf in Middle Earth and beyond. Then again, this is fantasy we're talking about. Therefore, Luthien was attracted to Beren's personality. Therefore, Beren was overweight and unsymmetrical.

[cassiopeia]

Originally posted by Andúril
Okay, I see. So you're a closet voyeur. You get turned on by the fact that:...and you like to watch. Got it.

You don't know the half of it! :) I appreciate a man's mind. Very much. Yes. ;)

Weren't they all gay in the Sil? That's why Feanor left Valinor -- he and Melkor had a lover's tiff, didn't they? :D

[BeardofPants]

Yeah, it was over the size of the rock in the engagement ring. ;)

[Andúril]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
I like.....the strong, mysterious typeBut am I?

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Andúril
Therefore, Beren was overweight and unsymmetrical.

Yeah, one hand'll do that. :rolleyes: :p

[Andúril]

Originally posted by cassiopeia
You don't know the half of it! :) I appreciate a man's mind. Very much. Yes. ;)You, er, "appreciate" a man's "mind".

By the way, there's this little thing called a webcam, and another little thing called MSN. These little things can help with your voyeuristic tendencies.

[cassiopeia]

Originally posted by Andúril
You, er, "appreciate" a man's "mind".

By the way, there's this little thing called a webcam, and another little thing called MSN. These little things can help with your voyeuristic tendencies.

Yes, I do. You may remove those quotation marks, thank you.

Don't worry, I know how to find the web's many pleasures. :)

[Andúril]

Originally posted by Ruinel
These 2 Legolases... Legolasae... Legolasi?Pansy boys.