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diannah
12-25-2002, 04:55 PM
This'll blow your mind--Tim Burton directing the Lord of the Rings.

eowyngirl14
12-25-2002, 06:07 PM
Sorry, but who is Tim Burton?:) Is he another directer? I am an american, so should his name ring any bells to me?

Celebréiel
12-25-2002, 06:18 PM
That would be weeeeirrrdd. I think the creepy side of Lotr would be enhanced, like the orcs, nazgul would have a bigger role....but on the good side he probably wouldnt have decided to play up the Arwen role, but yeah....alot darker than PJ did it...I think.
~Celebréiel

HOBBIT
12-25-2002, 07:07 PM
He has done a lot of movies here eowyngirl14. I'm too lazy to look any up, but off the top of my head I remember "The nightmare before christmas" "sleepy hollow" (or whatever that movie was called . close enough) ,and planet of the apes.

akutach
12-25-2002, 10:48 PM
The extra darkness would be a given, but how wacky would have Isengard been with Burton's penchant for outlandish contraptions. I could see the Uruk Hai assulting the gates of Helm's Deep with some over sized battering ram with 10,000 moving parts. I also see the good things being a little exagerated as well. The elves would have been a bit too jolly I'm afraid.

As long as your thinking about other directors, how about David Lynch? I think I'm about the only person who thinks Dune (consider only the director's cut) was as great a piece of film as the book was a book. I bet every Dune book fan that has seen Lynch's version just decided to disregard anything I ever post again.

What if Stanley Kubrick were still alive?!?!

Coney
12-26-2002, 01:52 AM
If Burton had directed LotR the Nazgul would have been truly terrifying........and Moria probably very, psychologically, horrible.
In fact, I'd be amazed that he'd keep the movie pg-13:rolleyes:

*shudders at the memory of the god-awful Plantet of the Apes re-make*

To be honest, although Burton has some fantastic ideas in his film making about creating atmosphere (Edward Scissorhands was/is a classic dark fairytale) I can't see Burton having the scope to re-tell LotR in a movie:rolleyes:

Erawyn
12-26-2002, 02:13 AM
Seeing the remake of Planet of the Apes has totally ruined Burton for me. That movie sucked beyond belief.

Blackboar
12-26-2002, 09:24 AM
I've never heard of him!:rolleyes:

Arathorn
12-26-2002, 01:38 PM
Tim Burton also did the first 2 batman movies and changed the image from a blue and grey Adam West - acted concept to a darker, more internal struggle type.

He'd probably have the whole fellowship seeking to grab the ring from Frodo, IMO. It would be a whodunnit series of films as the ring is always in someone else's hands. Some of them will probably even conspire with Saruman. The Nazgul would not be screeching but would be laughing maniacally. Orcs would not be pursuing them but would rather lie in ambush underground and pull on their legs whenever they step near as if triggered like mines. Sauron would still be an eye but covered in glowing slime rather than fire. Gandalf would be humorless, silent, and mysterious while Aragorn would always work an internal struggle (invented, of course) way too much that he often has a Smeagol-Gollumish contradiction monologue. While Gollum would be able to befriend Frodo whenever no one else is looking and will actually steer the group to Moria after he catches up with them when they leave Rivendell....:eek:

Varda Oiolosseo
12-26-2002, 06:46 PM
I don't think I've heard of him!
Even so it wouldn't be the same i mean PJ has done it perfectly! :D :D
Oh * looking at Erawyn's post* he did Planet of the Apes! Oh he would have done a crap job of it! I didn't like that film! no offence to any one who did though :D

Nariel
12-27-2002, 09:02 PM
Bite thy tongue, thou wicked doomsayer. diannah, why did you even bring this up? Now I'm going to have nightmares of LotR a la Beetlejuice.....spare me, someone!! please!!! Let's think thoughts of Steven Spielberg, Ron Howard, and Roland Emmerich....

diannah
12-28-2002, 08:56 AM
Yup I agree. This was kind of a scary thread. Weird to think about at least...

Gwaimir Windgem
12-28-2002, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Varda Oiolosseo
I don't think I've heard of him!
Even so it wouldn't be the same i mean PJ has done it perfectly! :D :D

I'm not even going to start on that...

gdl96
12-28-2002, 11:58 AM
Kinda odd that some people haven't heard of Burton.

Anyway, I think the movie would be very dark, obviously. And now that everyone here has been talking about it, IMO, i think it would be kind of interesting to see.


What if Stanley Kubrick were still alive?!?!

Ooh, my favorite director. I think the movie would movie at a much slower pace. It would probably be rated R for all the violence he'd put into it as well.

Hasty Ent
12-28-2002, 01:08 PM
I'd love to see Burton's version -- it would be dark, Gothic and creepy. His Batman was, IMO, perfect.

How about a version by Bergman: lots of close ups of gaunt faces, long silent moments, empty landscapes w/distant horizons, Max von Sydow as Gandalf...

or Fellini, scored by Nino Rota: very surreal with twisted humor, Giuletta Masina as Arwen and Marcello Mastroianni as an elegant and decadent Elrond...

or Godard, the Fellowship struggling to communicate with each other, and failing that, smoking in silence and looking off into the distance as the rain falls...

BeardofPants
12-28-2002, 03:20 PM
What if Stanley Kubrick were still alive?!?!
Originally posted by gdl96
Ooh, my favorite director. I think the movie would movie at a much slower pace. It would probably be rated R for all the violence he'd put into it as well.

Yeah, and let's face it: he'd never have completed the movies! He's almost as much as a perfectionist as Tolkien...



I think I'd like to see a Burton adaption... maybe in claymation, a la Nightmare before Christmas. :D


Varda:
Oh * looking at Erawyn's post* he did Planet of the Apes! Oh he would have done a crap job of it! I didn't like that film! no offence to any one who did though

Hah, your ignorance is showing:

Sleepy Hollow (1999)
Mars Attacks! (1996)
Ed Wood (1994)
Batman Returns (1992)
Edward Scissorhands (1990)
Batman (1989)
Beetlejuice (1988)

azalea
12-28-2002, 05:33 PM
What about a Hitchcock version? Or Orson Welles?:)

Ërendil
12-28-2002, 05:58 PM
I can't imagine a different LOTR - I like this one.

Varda Oiolosseo
12-28-2002, 07:37 PM
I can't either!
Hah, your ignorance is showing:
What do you mean? I don't understand!:(

Cirdan
12-28-2002, 10:31 PM
His credits are better than PJs pre-LotR, anyway. I can think of others I'd rather have done it. I like the Bergman idea... elvish with a Swedish accent. I think Cameron would have done a nice job. I'd like a collaboration of Ridley Scott for the magic bits and Mel Gibson for the battle bits. PJ has too little affinity for the magical aspects of the book, even though he did great on the sets, costumes, and casting. I agree with Ebert (for once): PJ lost the "magic and whimsy" of the book in TTT.

eowyngirl14
12-28-2002, 11:05 PM
I like the way Peter Jackson did the movie. I like the subtle magic he used, not all the flashy lightning bolt and blue flame stuff. It makes the movie seem more realistic.