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Nilore
12-23-2002, 03:17 PM
What were the explosives that Saruman made to blow the wall in Helms Deep?
Caleb
12-23-2002, 03:27 PM
I see your really obsessed with the blowing up of the helms deep wall. Im gonna go ahead and guess it was black powder.
claudia silver
12-23-2002, 09:50 PM
Why did they destroy the wall of Helms deep when they knew that the falling boulders would kill alot of the orcs?

Cannon fodder :D
Gwaimir Windgem
12-24-2002, 01:15 AM
Yes, the bad guys usually don't care if a few of their twisted creatures get killed.
zavron
12-24-2002, 08:18 AM
More dead people the more food thee is for them!!:D
eowyngirl14
12-24-2002, 04:56 PM
They still blew up the wall even though it would kill several *hundred* of their orcs/uruk hai, because if they could get into Helm's Deep tha nthey could kill a lot more people/elves. It benefitted them in the long run, not harmed them.
Gorhiriel
02-05-2003, 10:39 PM
How the hell did Saruman find out how to create gunpowder anyway?
Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn
02-05-2003, 10:53 PM
a mixing of this...a dab of that...and POOF gunpowder
Gorhiriel
02-06-2003, 12:25 AM
Poof? I think you mean KABOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
squinteyedsoutherner
02-06-2003, 11:44 AM
Gun powder was known in Middle-Earth, it is the main ingredient in fireworks, Gandalf's claim to fame. It is also historical. Gun powder was first discovered in China in the 8th century and was in use in fireworks by the 10th. It did not appear in Europe until much later though.
eowyngirl14
02-06-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by squinteyedsoutherner
Gun powder was known in Middle-Earth, it is the main ingredient in fireworks, Gandalf's claim to fame. It is also historical. Gun powder was first discovered in China in the 8th century and was in use in fireworks by the 10th. It did not appear in Europe until much later though.

Ya... what he said!
Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn
02-06-2003, 06:04 PM
oh yea...good point
Captain Stern
02-06-2003, 06:22 PM
And, presumably, being a maia of Aule, Saruman knew a lot about such things anyway...
samwise of the shire
02-06-2003, 07:29 PM
What fun is normal gunpowder?I think that because Middle Earth isn't in our world or at least Mideaveal England gunpowder wasn't known there, so it stands to reason that possibly Sarumans explosive stuff wasn't gunpowder but some sort of material unknown to our world.
Or you could just say that the stuff Saruman used was black painted pebbles and computer graphics. ;)
Cheers,
Sam
Legolas_Frodo_Aragorn
02-06-2003, 08:05 PM
either one works....