View Full Version : Hey fangirls...........LOTR is not just Orlando Bloom
Faramir Took
12-23-2002, 11:49 AM
I by no means, mean to offend any of the female fanbase, but it seems to me the only reason most women enjoy these films is because of legolas (orland bloom). Women never seem to talk about anything other than orlando, and they seem to be oblivious to the rest of the film, and characters!!!!!!!!
C'mon, LOTR, is much more than just one elf!!!!!
Blackboar
12-23-2002, 12:05 PM
Ok!! Thats offending!!
Ok I really, no LOVE like Orlando Bloom but ILOVE LOTR ABOUT 1000 TIMES MORE THAN HIM!!!!!
And I do talk about about Orlando non-stop for 1/4 of the day but the rest I never shut up abou LotR and Tolkien!!!
And I agree LOTR Is much more than just one elf!!
eowyngirl14
12-23-2002, 12:15 PM
As I posted in the fangirl thread, I do not think lotr is just about orlando bloom/legolas. He is too 'goody two shoes' of me. The elves all have fair skin and silky blonde hair. Give me a break! I prefer Aragorn. He is in charge of their quest and he does not always make the right desicion. He is a mortal man. And he is WAY TOO GOOD FOR ARWEN! I love his raggedy rustic look!:D
Faramir Took
12-23-2002, 12:25 PM
Don't get me wrong.......I love Orlando Bloom as Legolas. I think he is perfect for the part. I actually posted this thread because I was tired of hearing about him from my wife................and then everytime I read something posted from a woman, it is about Orlando/Legolas 90% of the time.
happy holidays
Starr Polish
12-23-2002, 12:58 PM
Don't make assumptions, FT, it doesn't look good. :D
I'll admit, Orlando Bloom is quite attractive (as well as many other of the leads), but to most 'fangirls' who have a brain we are quite aware of the depth of Tolkien. Don't base your opinion of all female fans on your wife and a couple of boy-crazy young teenagers. (I'm an 'old' teenager...;))
Sister Golden Hair
12-23-2002, 12:59 PM
Most of the Men of the Lord of the Rings movies are awesome. Good actors and overall pretty good looking in their own ways, but the quest in itself and the battle scenes are for me what makes it a great movie. There is nothing like seeing and hearing those bowstrings sing and those arrows flying.
Artanis
12-23-2002, 02:07 PM
Agree to SGH's view of the battle scenes, and Men in the movies, and I do find Legolas particularly beautiful. :D
But I love the books much more than the movies, and in the books, Legolas was not at all outstanding. Read my posts here and I don't think you will find much babble about Legolas.
Merlin
12-23-2002, 05:13 PM
Sorry Legolas fans everywhere, but I really do not like him at all. Wait I got something better, he isdispleasing to look upon. My friend ,Anonymous Idiot thinks he is so hot! Why does everyone thinkhe is so cute? He's really (at least Idon't think so) not. What has our world come to? Ian McEllan is wonderful for Gandalf! I am a girl.
Varda Oiolosseo
12-24-2002, 02:59 PM
I love LOTR!!!!!! And Orlando!!
It wasn't our falt that they just used the hottest actor in the world to play the role of Legolas!! ;) :D
I too talk about them non - stop!! They r both great!!!!!
eowyngirl14
12-24-2002, 03:04 PM
Just becasue some of the people posting on this site are young teenagers, doesn't mean that we are all obsessed with Legolas/Orlando. I love Aragorn/Viggo! He is my favorite male charecter in the book and the movie, too! I appreciate all that he does for the Fellowship, and if it weren't for him Middle Earth would probobly be under Souron's rule right now! Legolas on the other hand, did not play such a major role in the books/movie! You can't hate the guy for being good looking!:)
Varda Oiolosseo
12-24-2002, 06:22 PM
People are always saying this to me "If it wasn't for Orlando you wouldn't be into LOTR" which is totally untrue!!
Like eowyngirl14 said a lot of teenagers do like Orlando! I'm 15 and really like Orlando! It doesn't mean i don't like LOTR!!! Coz I do!! I love it!
:D
My little sis loves Viggo as Aragorn too! :D
Firekitten2006
12-24-2002, 06:30 PM
Okies ppl chill for a sec. I am almost 15 (in Feb!!!) and really just dont like Legolas that much. (Yes I am a girl) I agree, he is a pretty boy, but I read the books before the movie came out. And actually I was clueless for a long time as to WHO Orlando Bloom was in the movie. He doesnt make a good blonde.
I like Elijiah Wood (somebody please tell me that was the right way to spell that!) Frodo is an awesome character (even tho PJ has diminished him a bit, ok a lot!) and he perfectly suits him.
Shadowfax
12-24-2002, 06:35 PM
I am a female fan as well, almost age 17, and I love LotR for many many reasons, none of which include Orlando Bloom. He's great as Legolas, but that's not why I watch the films. Thankyou to whoever started this thread, I agree with you whole heartedly...although I must disagree with you when you said that almost all girls who are fans are in love with Bloom -- I know plenty who are not.:)
Elenka
12-24-2002, 08:56 PM
Ok...So maybe the lead actors are pretty cute...That's not why I watch the movie. I like the story, and I love the books, and I just love all those cool battle scenes:D
IluvSmeagol13
12-24-2002, 08:57 PM
yea-tru..
doesn't any1 think faramir is hot?
eowyngirl14
12-24-2002, 10:10 PM
I think that all of the charecters are very very very very good looking! But as many have said before me, that is not why I love Lotr! I too read the books before I saw the movies. I fell in love with them because they are totally briliant! Yes, I must admit that my heart does a flipflop whenever I see Viggo/Araogrn smile, that is not why I am into Lotr!! Is that not so hard to except!? :cool: Why can't you people except the fact that not all teens, (I am 14) like Lotr for the hot guys!?!?!? I also think that is nothing wrong with flaunting the fact that we do love the actors, or chaecters that we do on Fangirl threads! If it makes us feel better to speak/type our love and devotion for certain actors/charecters than I think we should be able to without a bunch of people calling us mindless teenagers for doing it!
Thankyou... done venting now...*runs away*
()Yes I do think that Boromir/Sean Bean is very very cute! :D
Nariel
12-25-2002, 12:44 AM
My goodness, people! Poor Faramir was simply trying to make a statement regarding that fact that there are far too many girls who like LoTR simply because of Orli or Lij or Viggo. I do not deny that these men are attractive (as long as Viggo has a beard... without he's yeeeecccccchhhhh). However, I base my love of LoTR of the complexity of the storyline and the beautiful pictorization as well as vernacular used in the books. I base my attraction to Orlando Bloom on his good looks and his quirky personality. The fact that these two things are connected has no effect on my liking either one of them. Were Orlando Bloom not casted in LoTR, I would not stop liking either. As a small confession, however, I do think I wore out my friend on Thursday at the movies when, every time Orli popped onto the screen, I whispered, "That's my man." Of course, she knew I liked him before I saw LoTR, and she knew I liked LoTR before I ever saw him. SO it was a funny little inside joke between the two of us, which kept us both in stitches through the entire 2 hours and 59 minutes of TTT. So be easy on FT.
BTW, wanna hear something that totally and horribly sucks?? I was supposed to be an extra in a Tobey Maguire movie last week, but I had finals so I couldn't go. My friend went, and told me that they ended up standing right behind Tobey all day. Bummer!
Millane
12-25-2002, 09:15 AM
ohhhh come on this is such a joke sure there are people who think "ohhh hes a bit of allright" let them have there giggles does it really worry you (ohhh except that one is your wife i guess :p )
And he is WAY TOO GOOD FOR ARWEN!
well he can shift her this way if he isnt happy;) hahaha i think that the only thing that keeps me from talking about Arwen all day is that violence in the movie has overshadowed her hehehehe... hey and anyway my thinking arwen is hot is justified it says so in the books but i cant recall anywere talking about legolas' attractiveness so explain yourself:rolleyes:
Firekitten2006
12-25-2002, 01:25 PM
Nobody said they think Gollum is hott ;) *drools* ok I'm just kidding lol
I *love* the story, and the movie, and the good looking actors is just a plus. :D
I think the guy who plays Eomer is also pretty good looking :) He's got the Johnny Depp face *yum*!
Adrian Baggins
12-25-2002, 01:32 PM
I never talk about Olando or whoever it is I ONLY talk about and fanticise about Elijah Jordan Wood and Sean Asten and Merry and Pippin.BUT THE STORY IS THE ONLY REASON I WATC THE MOVIE. I have seen the fellowship of the ring 10.75 times. beat that somebody. I haven't seen the 2 towers yet though:(.
eowyngirl14
12-25-2002, 03:02 PM
Accualy I have seen the lotr fotr 13 times as of last night... I saw it 3 times in the theater, and then 10 times over the last couple of months that it has been on DVD. I have seen lotr TTT 3 times in the theater... SCORE! I just got the extended version of fotr for christmas so my dad is going to watch it with me tonight! When I sat down to watch it each of those 13 times, I was definetly NOT thinking, wow I am only watching this for Viggo and Orlando and Elija...
although they are all cute...
I watch it becasue I love the storie and now, the movie!
samwise of the shire
12-25-2002, 04:06 PM
Adrian would you believe me if I told you a friend of my friend saw FOTR in theater 20 times? I meself saw it 9 times in theater.
I have my moments of dreaminess, but it's really cool to look into the way they got into movie making. And after reading some of the interviews you just kind of have to see what they say about one of their hobbies (like surfing or bungee jumping) is true.
Unfortunatly I dont have an ocean near my house so I cant try the surfing...but I can jump from a 30 ft tall diving board at the pool in Lava Hot Springs and that's about as close to bungee jumping I'm gonna get.
Cheers,
Sam
diannah
12-25-2002, 04:21 PM
Ok, let me get this straight--you think girls are only into the lord of the rings because of Orlando Bloom?[FLAME DELETED] First off, personally I fancy Sam and second of all I'm not just into it for Sean Astin. When will this stigma that fantasy is boys end?[FLAME DELETED] Oh and I suppose that you don't like Arwen, Galadriel or Eowyn. But then I guess you would think it would be alright if you did because you are a supreme and always correct male. Right, in another world besides this one and Middle- Earth. What I think it all comes down to is that you boys want to keep the Bath Song all for yourselves.
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SamwiseGamgeeOTS
12-25-2002, 07:49 PM
oooooo it's not just bout Orlando.......ELIJAH IS WAY BETTER! That's how i started to love the movie and books!:D :cool: :p
TinuvielChild
12-25-2002, 11:31 PM
First of all: LotR is LotR. Admittedly, they cast some REALLY hot guys in it. ;) But LotR is LotR.
Secondly: Those of you who are vehemently protesting the idea that the only reason to watch LotR is for the hot guys, either learn how to correctly use the English language, or take some typing lessons. Either one would greatly enhance your credibility. Lemme dig up bropous's famous rant about those of us that consistently misused Tolkien's fair language...
Ah, here we go. The remainder of this post is completely bropous's words, from the LotR Easter Egg Mistake thread, in the LotR Movie forum, from much, much earlier this year. Somewhere around Easter, as it were.
Originally posted by bropous
QUOTE: "i dunno the difference. i didn't know that there woz one, but sumone sed that there woz a difference between canadian and american, so i woz just stating wot type of smarties my raid woz going 2 b on, english american or canadian !!!!"
QUOTE: "sorry strawberry, and i wozn't jst calling u names. don't invent things n e way"
Pardon me while I take an anti-nauseant and vent my literary spleen.
Folks, a person can write or post in any manner they choose, within constraints of the admins and mods, but what is so BLOODY difficult about posting in proper English? You ARE discussing, at least in other threads, the works of an OXFORD PROFESSOR OF LANGUAGES, for Pete's sake! Can't you show an OUNCE of respect for the man, for the generations of time he spent grading papers in cloistered houses, for the regiments of students he guided on the path to greater understanding of the arts of communications, and for the sensibilities of others who see this retrograde, southron Orcish and cry, "Aieeee! Aieeeee! The language of Mordor is heard in Rivendell! Bespeak it no more!!!!"
Seriously. It is not difficult to write "be" when you mean "be", it is not difficult to write "was" when you mean "was", it is not difficult to write "what" when you mean "what", it is not difficult to write "to" when you mean "to", "too" when you mean "too", or "two" when you mean "two"!!!! Why in the heck write "wuz" for "was"? It's the same number of keystrokes, you ain't saving any time! And MAYBE if you wrote "before" instead of "b 4", you might improve your typing skills AND your language skills. The posts I have seen in this goblin/trollish drivel makes one wonder whether the author of the post ever even TOUCHED a book of greater challenge than "Curious George".
You are here, you've obviously read the books, how about taking a little bit of effort and write in proper English? A bit of colloquialisms or intential poor grammar from time to time are acceptable, sometimes even disarmingly charming, but a constant barrage of "near-English" in a Tolkien discussion group is like showing up at a black tie dinner in a blue suit with brown shoes.
Folks, you have some learning about you, you're not some illiterate street punks, you have read the books of the Master, did his mastery of the language have NO effect on you WHATSOEVER???????? Are you in no way embarassed to speak in broken, stilted, pidgin-English in a group of people discussing the Lord of the Rings? I am sure you are capable of FAR more effective communication.
Have some respect for the language, and for the work which the Master poured into the books. We are not discussing some rap hip-hop unintelligible garbage, we are discussing the most important works of literature produced in the Twentieth Century. [Did I balance compliments with critique sufficiently? Didn't want to make this a flame harangue in any way. Post as you wish. Best wishes, all. Soapbox dismounted.]
Take his words to heart and gain points not only here, but in your English classes! ;)
[edit] This is only aimed at those of us whose native language is English. Those whose English is not so great because it is not their mother tongue (such as Radagast the Brown) have an excuse.
Erawyn
12-26-2002, 02:20 AM
Well put Bropous, and TC for sticking that little speech in this thread. I know that I am in no way innocent of sounding like an idiot when I post things, but when people post entire sentences without using any vowels, well they certainly do not sound like people who like LOTR for more than the hot guys.
Blackboar
12-26-2002, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by Firekitten2006
Nobody said they think Gollum is hott ;) *drools* ok I'm just kidding lol
I DID!!!
Gwaimir Windgem
12-26-2002, 10:46 AM
I'm sorry, but where did the anti-fangirls use poor English? I didn't see that.
TinuvielChild
12-26-2002, 03:06 PM
It wasn't so much poor English as the "chat-speak" - you know, "n e way", "b4", things like that. And things like writing "there" when they obviously meant "their" or "they're". I never said it was all of the anti-fangirls; only a few of them. Mostly, though, it's a phenomenon that appears on Entmoot during the influx of newbies right after another LotR movie comes out. Please, people, don't take that rant personally, but please do correct yourself if you find yourself writing in this "retrograde, southron Orcish", for the good of us all.
eowyngirl14
12-26-2002, 04:05 PM
originaly posted by Erawyn
but when people post entire sentences without using any vowels, well they certainly do not sound like people who like LOTR for more than the hot guys.
I know that I type horribly, and that my english is not the best. But I don't think that gives you the right to say that I am only into Lotr because of the hot guys! Because that is not true! I read the books before I saw the movies, and fell in love with them! The hot guys are maybe one of the reasons I like the movie soooo much, but definetly not the books, which I think are 10 times better than the movies will ever be! If some people care so much about correct grammer and spelling, (not that there is anything wrong with taking pride in correctly speaking the english language) maybe a spell chack feature should be added to this forum.:)
samwise of the shire
12-26-2002, 04:34 PM
Eowyn CALM DOWN. There are ALOT of people on this board to have stinky English. I think Erawyn wasn't talking about you.
Have you ever seen a chat room where the only think they use are smiley faces and lower case letters to get their point across? I think that's what he was talking about.
So calm down. You have good english...for a fangirl. :)
Cheers,
Sam
Sister Golden Hair
12-26-2002, 05:11 PM
What does having good English, spelling, etc... have to do with liking a movie full of hot actors?:confused:
Varda Oiolosseo
12-26-2002, 06:59 PM
I have no idea!
To whoever started this thread Why did you start it? Was it just to have a go at the people who like Orlando Bloom!! ;) :rolleyes:
I like Orlando alot but I also like LOTR!! It was just a coincidence that they were put together on the big screen! :D a good one too!! :D ;)
TinuvielChild
12-26-2002, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
What does having good English, spelling, etc... have to do with liking a movie full of hot actors?:confused:
I posted what I did because some people were saying that they liked LotR because of the books (and presumably Tolkien's mastery of the English language), not only because of hot actors. I cited bropous's soapbox dissertation because I felt that if these people didn't use the 'pidgin-English' normally seen in chatrooms, it would lend credibility to their argument. If I am in the wrong here, feel free to take whatever action you deem appropriate.
Sister Golden Hair
12-26-2002, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by TinuvielChild
I posted what I did because some people were saying that they liked LotR because of the books (and presumably Tolkien's mastery of the English language), not only because of hot actors. I cited bropous's soapbox dissertation because I felt that if these people didn't use the 'pidgin-English' normally seen in chatrooms, it would lend credibility to their argument. If I am in the wrong here, feel free to take whatever action you deem appropriate. No problem at all TC. I just wanted to understand why it mattered about good English and whatever.
I think the thread starter said something about his wife being a big OB fan or something, and after the fangirl thread, I think he was just wanting to know if all the women out there are seeing this movie for the hot guys, or for the story itself.
I saw it because I love the books, but I'll say that having a bunch of hot fellas in the movie certianly is a plus.:D
Lizra
12-26-2002, 07:31 PM
I'm with you SGH. I'd be at these movies even if Rod Stewart was Legolas and Hank Williams Jr played Aragorn. :eek: (ick & icky!) The addition of sexy men just ups my interest and possibly the $'s I'll spend. They know what they're doing! It is good!:) I think the sexy men are magnified because they play righteous, valiant characters. The only evil "looker" (so far) is Lurtz! :p :D
Firekitten2006
12-26-2002, 08:08 PM
Ok well lets think about this :)
1st of all, sometimes I'm just lazy and talk like that :) Its ok, no reason to get worked up about it.
2nd I dont know about you, but it would be pretty distracting if they had some dirty hobo playing Frodo and a dirty scummy old man playing Gandalf. I dont think I would stay to watch the movie. I'm glad they cast good looking people, and then just added makeup or whatever to make them look dirty.
3rd I did read the books first and saw the movie after I read the books and I wouldnt have seen the movie if I hadnt have read the books. Its just not my normal type of movie. I'm more in to murder mysteries (*loved* murder by numbers) and comdeys (10 things I hate about you). I didnt even know the books existed tho (see its "chat talk!" LOL) until I saw an ad at school in the library for the movies/books.
Erawyn
12-27-2002, 12:45 AM
Sorry I came across as kind of b*tchy there!
Have you ever seen a chat room where the only think they use are smiley faces and lower case letters to get their point across? I think that's what he was talking about.
Yeah pretty much. I really wasn't talking about anyone in particular here, but I do agree with the people who said that as we are on here talking mainly about books that proper English would be nice;).
And btw, I'm a girl:p
Merlin
12-27-2002, 01:54 AM
Does anybody have any idea what I've found out from this thread? About 60% of the people who have signed are civilized humans, and aren't crazy about Orlando Bloom. Sorry, but thats a strange name. Good thread,
TinuvielChild
12-27-2002, 02:37 AM
Oh! An on topic post from me, for once...:p :rolleyes:
The first time I heard the name Orlando Bloom, I seriously went "Orlando Bloom? As in Florida Flower???" It amused me greatly...
And lazy people or those who can't type well, it's okay. It's just the chat-speak that really bugs me. Sometimes I get really annoyed about spelling/grammar errors, but the problem with that is when I make one, everyone jumps on it! :p Tired....
Elenessiel
12-27-2002, 04:34 AM
Thank you everyone. I am so bloody relieved to know that there are other bastions of sanity out there who actually prefer the story to the scenery (the guys). I can completely relate to anyone who needs to vent about Orlando Bloom's fan clubs. I am a seventeen year old girl, and I get SO tired of trying to talk to my friends about the plot and getting the response "Plot? What plot? I was noticing other things." I am not entirely unmoved by pleasing male appearances, but my heart makes a bigger thump when I look at the gorgeous architecture in Rivendell. (Have you noticed how nicely the waterfalls are integrated into their surroundings? Wow.) There is nothing wrong with admiring the actors. I only wish that physical appearances would get put in perspective by a larger percentage of moviegoers. I am guessing that the postings on this site do not represent a normal cross-section of the population. Thank you people here for taking a serious interest in the movies in their own right, and not as just billion dollar extended showcases for male models.
samwise of the shire
12-27-2002, 04:38 PM
And btw, I'm a girl oops, Sorry Erawyn. I've done that twice now. :p :rolleyes: When're you gonna learn Sam?
Welcome to the Moot Elenessiel. And have patience with your friends. I have friends who call Frodo "The head hobbit guy" or Legolas" That guy with the bow" so I understand your predicament completely. :)
Cheers,
Sam
Firekitten2006
12-28-2002, 11:01 PM
thats nothing. For some reason my sisters call Gandalf "tenderloin" and I stupidly tried to describe the skitsofrenia scene with Gollum/Smeagol so now Gollum/Smeagol is "feces" like animal doodoo. *sigh*
Morgan
12-30-2002, 05:22 AM
Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Most of the Men of the Lord of the Rings movies are awesome. Good actors and overall pretty good looking in their own ways, but the quest in itself and the battle scenes are for me what makes it a great movie. There is nothing like seeing and hearing those bowstrings sing and those arrows flying.
Sister,
Like yourself, my primary motivation for seeing the film was a passion for the book, coupled with a love of historical weaponary and medieval campaigning in general. (You may recollect the merciless Rohan Campaign Elanor Gamgee and I lauched in another forum earlier this year! ;) :cool: )
In all honesty, I had no idea that there was going to be so much eye candy in the films. They were merely a bonus.
In retrospect, I would have to say that I am most impressed with the martial aspect of the film. Bob Anderson's sword choreography is second to none. And to think the man is in his seventies! He manages to make the actors look like they really do know their hilt from their quillion.
As for singing bowstrings as you so aptly put it, that is music to my Elf ears. :D
Andnólëiel
12-30-2002, 11:27 AM
I can't say I'm not an Orlando fan, becuase I am. I'm a girl, I'm a teenager, but I don't always talk about him. I've been reading Tolkien's works since I was ten years old - I love LotR and all of Tolkien's other works as well, and I am quite aware that LotR is not just about one elf.
Anadriewen
12-13-2003, 03:13 PM
I guess i can see y so many girls like Orlando Bloom, but i just don't think he's the hottest actor i've ever seen. I mean, i think the hobbits are the hottest (namely Elijah Wood):D
Sister Golden Hair
12-13-2003, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Andnólëiel
I can't say I'm not an Orlando fan, becuase I am. I'm a girl, I'm a teenager, but I don't always talk about him. I've been reading Tolkien's works since I was ten years old - I love LotR and all of Tolkien's other works as well, and I am quite aware that LotR is not just about one elf. Well, I wish you success on reading the books. In the Third Age, Elves were few. If you really want Elves, the Silmarillion is the place to go after LotRs.
Captain Stern
12-14-2003, 07:04 PM
Tinuviel Child: Secondly: Those of you who are vehemently protesting the idea that the only reason to watch LotR is for the hot guys, either learn how to correctly use the English language, or take some typing lessons. Either one would greatly enhance your credibility. Lemme dig up bropous's famous rant about those of us that consistently misused Tolkien's fair language...
Has it ever occurred to you that some people might have problems with spelling, might not be terribly academic, or suffer from dyslexia? Heck, they might even be sensitive about it too! I guess these people don't deserve to discuss The Lord of the Rings.
Nurvingiel
12-14-2003, 07:36 PM
Speaking of Tolkien, didn't he say Legolas was the least important member of the Fellowship?
cassiopeia
12-14-2003, 09:31 PM
I thought Tolkien said Legolas achieved the least of the fellowship.
Nurvingiel
12-14-2003, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by cassiopeia
I thought Tolkien said Legolas achieved the least of the fellowship. This is certainly possible. I don't know the exact quote.
I only said that because some Legolas fangirls tend to inflate his role, and inflict endless Mary Sues upon him.
There's nothing wrong with having Legolas as a favourite character, just not at the expense of Tolkien's story.
ethuiliel
12-14-2003, 10:56 PM
To be perfectly honest, I'm never really into actors, and the only reason I know the names of most of the actors in LotR is that I watched the comentaries.
As for Legolas, he is a great character, and of course he is an Elf, which is my favorite race on Middle Earth, but I do get annoyed by how it seems that most people only notice Legolas, or thier favorite character is always Legolas. He didn't even do all that much, as some of you have said.
Anadriewen
12-17-2003, 07:30 PM
I agree. Most people only notice Legolas. I mean, I like elves and all, but there are other people in the story other than Legolas!:eek: (:D)
Varda Oiolosseo
12-18-2003, 04:46 PM
I'm one of the biggest Orlando fans ;) :P
But i do know that there are other characters and he was my favourite character before Orlando was cast as him, also Aragorn and Arwen are my favourite characters too!!!
It's not our faut that such a hot actor was cast in the role of some people's favourite character :P
I'm not saying your wrong because a lot of people go to see it for Orlando (eg my mates) who havn't read the book before and Elijah too (not so nice), but not me!!!
I love the book's i love the movies, i love pretty much all of the characters!
:rolleyes:
sirigorn
01-16-2004, 09:16 AM
OK I am in love with orli. in my opinion he is the hottest guy on this planet. when i first watched the movie i fell in love. not with legolas but with the story of LotR. Legolas has a small role everybody, the movie (and books) have a much wider range than "oh, the elves are so hot" And Legolas is cool and all but Aragorn is totally better in my humble opinion (just thought i'd put that out there)
ryttu3k
01-16-2004, 12:04 PM
You know what? Five years ago, there wasn't a single twelve-year-old girl like me who had actually heard of Tolkien or Lord Of The Rings.
Actually, some of them still haven't heard of Tolkien.
Me: "Have you read Lord Of The Rings?"
Teenybopper: "No, I don't like adaptions, I like the real thing. And besides, Orli isn't in the book."
*cue bashing head repeatedly against the wall*
sirigorn
01-17-2004, 12:24 AM
Me: "Have you read Lord Of The Rings?"
Teenybopper: "No, I don't like adaptions, I like the real thing. And besides, Orli isn't in the book."
*cue bashing head repeatedly against the wall*
I agree. If any of you read the comic strip Foxtrot, the cartoonist is a lotr fan!! The whole week of Dec 17, he or she had only lotr realated comics. there's this girl and boy in the family. the girl is orli obsesed the boy is movie obsesed. I had fun reading those even though they were stupid:D
ethuiliel
01-17-2004, 12:54 AM
I agree. If any of you read the comic strip Foxtrot, the cartoonist is a lotr fan!! The whole week of Dec 17, he or she had only lotr realated comics. there's this girl and boy in the family. the girl is orli obsesed the boy is movie obsesed. I had fun reading those even though they were stupid In one of the comics the girl asks her brother if Tolkien mentions Orlando Bloom a lot in the books. Seems a little exagerated, most people know that he's the actor, but it was funny. I could understand why her brother asked another fan to shoot him with his Uruk-hai arrows though...Orlando Bloom in the book!!
Anadriewen
01-17-2004, 08:41 PM
You know what? Five years ago there wasn't a single twelve-year-old girl likeme who ha actually heard of Tolkien or Lord of the Rings
Hey, you're twelve? Thats cool, cuz I just turned 13 about a week ago! I only know of about...6 people (2 of them are girls) that like Lord of the Rings that are about my age!
ryttu3k
01-17-2004, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Anadriewen
Hey, you're twelve? Thats cool, cuz I just turned 13 about a week ago! I only know of about...6 people (2 of them are girls) that like Lord of the Rings that are about my age!
Whoops, I didn't point that out too well... no, five years ago I was twelve, and just about the only twelve-year-old girl fan out there. Now there's a lot, mostly thanks to the movies. I'm seventeen now - sorry.
mallondwen
01-19-2004, 03:43 PM
I hade never heard of Lord of the Rings, the Hobbit, the Sim, or Tolkien when it came out. i am just a 17 (almost 18) year old teen. But I saw a preview for the movie and I was like “oh that looks cool” so I saw it the day after Christmas in 2001 and I was mesmerized by the quality, the depth, and the emotion that the movie portrayed. And of course the actors, I admit I was completely obsessed with Orlando at first, now my mom and I have an ongoing joke about it, but I am no longer like that, thank god.
But as soon as I could I got my hands on a copy of FOTR and I read it in about two days, then TTT and ROTK. By the time I had seen FOTR a few times I had it memorized and knew a lot about the characters. And I have fallen head over heels in love with Tolkien’s world, the languages, the characters, the places
especially. And now I am an obsessed fan with everything about Tolkien's work, not just the actors, though I admit openly ORLANDO IS HOT and Viggo is too, so is Elijah I guess, heck they are all HOT.
We have kept up that tradition too, every day after christmas me and my family have gone to see the new ones, though we had seen it several times already. (we have gone to two of the premires, didn't go to FOTR) my brother, who is now in the air force, had convinced my mom to see it with him in 2001 and after that we were sold, and in 2002 we saw TTT with him. and now he is stationed in Guam and on the day after christmas we all went to see ROTK, and so did he so that was a cool little thing we did.
originally posted by Adrian Baggins
I have seen the fellowship of the ring 10.75 times. beat that somebody. I haven't seen the 2 towers yet though
Well that’s easy, FOTR- theatrical and in the theater- 10- at home- good god I lost count, well over fifty in the first two months, no lie
Extended version- uhh, I’m not sure but I have seen that one a lot too
TTT- theatrical in the theater- 7- at home- not as many as FOTR but still a lot as for at home, I still watch it almost every weekend, if not more
Extended version- hmmm- a lot, that’s mostly what I watch now
ROTK- four so far and counting, not nearly as much as I want though, I can’t ever talk anyone into seeing it with me twice in a row, I want to do that.
And I went to the trilogy, which was the coolest thing ever
originally posted by Cassiopeia
I thought Tolkien said Legolas achieved the least of the fellowship.
He did in fact say that at one point but what he did not meant that Legolas was by any means not an important, or a vital character. If it wasn’t for Legolas’ constant optimism and encouraging then who knows what might have happened.
Even in the face of almost certain death and hopelessness he was planning things to do when it was all over.
The Road To Isengard Legolas to Gimli on the road to Isengard:
Come! Let us make this bargain- if we both return safe out of perils that await us, we will journey for a while together. You shall visit Fangorn with me, and then I will come with you to see Helm’s Deep.
The Last DebateLegolas to Gimli in Minas Tirith:
”They need more gardens,” said Legolas. “the houses are dead, and there is too little here that grows and is glad. If Aragorn comes into his own, the people of the wood shall bring him birds that sing and trees that do not die.”
Also his bow and his skills as an accomplished warrior were a valuable asset to the fellowship. Come on, he shot a Nazgûl out of the sky at night when it was clouded and the thing was surrounded by its ominous dark cloud too, how cool is that.
I do not believe that Tolkien in any way meant to degrade the value of his elf but it was just a passing comment, which has been taken and dissected under microscopes trying to figure out what he meant by it. Legolas was invaluable, there is no question about that, and he accomplished a heck of a lot more than people give him credit for. But what do I know, I am just a crazed fangirl…:rolleyes: (sorry so long, just had alot to say i guess)
eowyngirl14
01-20-2004, 06:06 PM
i used to only hate legolas a little- but after that stupid mumakil killing scene of his i hate him a lot.
that was purely for the leggy/orlando fan girls... or maybe they were strying to appeal to the extreme sports fans (?)
that just pissed me off, and all of my friends are so obsessed its crazy. ahh they make me so annoyed! ill start talking about how Legolas had no good lines in ROTK and they will all be like 'ya but hes so sexy so who cares?'
errrr i care!!! im glad that aragorn fans like me are able to keep a little bit more under control.
Falagar
01-20-2004, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by eowyngirl14
i used to only hate legolas a little- but after that stupid mumakil killing scene of his i hate him a lot.
that was purely for the leggy/orlando fan girls... or maybe they were strying to appeal to the extreme sports fans (?)
that just pissed me off, and all of my friends are so obsessed its crazy. ahh they make me so annoyed! ill start talking about how Legolas had no good lines in ROTK and they will all be like 'ya but hes so sexy so who cares?'
errrr i care!!! im glad that aragorn fans like me are able to keep a little bit more under control.
Sure you are. :p ;)
I agree, that Mûmakil-scene was plain stupid. Ok he made an action-movie, but couldn't he please have kept it within the laws of physics or at least made the scene not look like another "Legolas the gummybear"? :rolleyes:
eowyngirl14
01-20-2004, 06:59 PM
Legolas the gummybear?? thats really funny. i usually call him 'legolas the spiderman wanna-be'
i like yours better!
;) :)
Nurvingiel
01-20-2004, 09:01 PM
Hmmm... Aragorn fangirls can be pretty rabid too sometimes. :D:p
I did get the impression Legolas' character was hyped-up a bit.
eowyngirl14
01-20-2004, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Hmmm... Aragorn fangirls can be pretty rabid too sometimes. :D:p
I did get the impression Legolas' character was hyped-up a bit.
fine but we are no where near as bad as orlando fangirls... atleast i dont think i am. :rolleyes: :D :) :D
Nurvingiel
01-20-2004, 11:15 PM
Legolas fangirls are the worst. I was just kidding anyway. :D Smilies all around!
Critter
01-21-2004, 02:34 PM
I know I am weighing in on this topic a bit late, but I’d just like to add one small point . . . . So what if some “girls” first become interested in Lord of the Rings because they have a crush on Orlando Bloom, Elijah Wood, et al? If they first attend the movies because it stars their favorite actor, however, with subsequent viewings they become engrossed in the story and pick up the book to read it, is that necessarily a bad thing? (Meaning is it a bad thing because these girls only first became interested in the story because of the “hot guys”).
This very topic reminds me of a former student and how she first became a hockey fan (bear with me). She had absolutely no interest in hockey even though her father was the curator for a local sports museum attached to the local hockey arena. One day, when she was about ten or 11 she went to work with her father. One of the players came into her father’s office to ask if he would mind conducting a tour for his family who flew in from western Canada. Nicole (my former student) saw the player and (in her words) she stopped breathing because he was so hot. She asked her father who “that guy” was and when she learned he played for the local hockey team she started watching the game. She is now quite knowledgeable about the game and no longer picks favorite players because they are “cute.” It took her noticing the attractiveness of a player to peak her interest, but the game is what kept it.
Could not the same be said for “fangirls”?
EDIT: Sorry, I am what one would call less than tech savy, I needed to correct an error or two (hope it takes this time) **crosses fingers**
Critter
01-21-2004, 02:42 PM
Hey, I thought Legolas’ primary functions were to shoot things, be aloof, and look pretty.
:p
(Sorry, I just couldn’t resist).
mallondwen
01-21-2004, 06:49 PM
I guess the same could be said for "fan girls" Critter, because even though in the first half of FOTR Orlando isn't even in it, and I wanted to know more about this cool and very interesting story. But it was when he came on screen that I wanted to know everything about that character and the story. And subsequently I read the books and now I am in love with the entire story, its history and all the races, Elves mostly though. And though Legolas is still my favorite character and I still think Orlando is pretty darn hot I am more so obsessed with the story than the characters.
And Viggo fans are no more "in control" than any other, Viggo's fans are just a little older and less outspoken, Orli fans are in the range of eleven and up, therefor the "reckless teens" mostly...:D
eowyngirl14
01-21-2004, 06:59 PM
i guess your right about the whole age thing. it must be weird bing 26 (??) and having 11 yearolds walking around talking about you.
im 15 and a Viggo fan. heeeheee
durin's bane
01-21-2004, 07:34 PM
I'm 12 and I'm a Viggo fan. A very rare breed, we are. :D
I'll admit, before I utterly despised and detested Legolas and Orlando Bloom in every synonym imaginable, I was a fangirl-at-large after I saw the movies. But nobody can point fingers at me because I had read the Fellowship of the Ring before I saw the movie. :p But after that, Legolas replaced Sam as my favourite The Lord of the Rings character, and I swooned every time he spoke and did things in the book and movie. But after a while, I finally stopped and said, "Why do I really like Legolas?" When I thought long and hard about it, I finally came to the conclusion that it was not because he accomplished great things and had a personality that attracted me, but because he was played by a good-looking actor that had mastered that sexy pouty-face that makes me wet myself. So Sam once more went to the top and Legolas and Orlando went down...down....down....
And after seeing The Return of the King, I was reminded of how truly great Aragorn really is, and I was ashamed of how I had hated him before. Now I'm a huge Aragorn fan and I love Viggo.
Go figure, eh?
eowyngirl14
01-21-2004, 08:45 PM
i wish all legolas fand could turn out like you!;) :D :)
Critter
01-22-2004, 12:19 PM
And Viggo fans are no more "in control" than any other, Viggo's fans are just a little older and less outspoken
Hey, watch who you're calling "older" . . . . . ;)
I've always been a fan of Viggo Mortensen (check out The Prophecy to see his really creepy rendition of Lucifer) though I must admit it took me a bit to recognize him in Fellowship of the Ring because I’m used to seeing him blonde.
Aragorns Dimple
01-24-2004, 01:33 AM
Dont forget that those nutty Orly fangirls are the ones who have paid millions of $ to make the films so successful to date. Let 'em have their perv on elfboy or whoever, as long as they go home to us b/f's! :cool:
eowyngirl14
01-24-2004, 01:36 PM
that is true, but Aragorn fans helped too! we are just outnumbered by orli fans.
my good friend laura pointed this out to me when we wre talking about Hidlago. when i said that i was goign to see HIDALGO on opening night with all the other Viggo fans. she says, 'well youll be the only one in the theater.'
it wasnt very nice of her. :rolleyes: :) ill just get my friend nick to come with me!:D :D
hectorberlioz
01-24-2004, 01:48 PM
not only are viggo fans more mature, they are also more numerous. the only reason that orli gets so much attention is because his fans are a mad mob of teenage crazy girls, who'll stop at nothing(and will even shed blood) to have a look at orli in real life.
Nurvingiel
01-24-2004, 05:28 PM
Apparently, Orlando Bloom is a technophobe. If this is what movies did to him, I wouldn't blame him in the slightest.
People have to realize that he's a person, not a lust object. A hot and reasonably talented person, but a human being none the less.
eowyngirl14
01-25-2004, 11:31 PM
what's a 'technophobe'???
*im not a dumb blonde* *im not a dumb blonde*
:) :p
Nurvingiel
01-25-2004, 11:56 PM
That's not a stupid question. It means he's afraid of technology.
Eärloth
01-27-2004, 09:55 PM
Or doesn't know how to work with it...................
Hey, the title of this thread is almost misleading....the term 'fangirl' doesn't lable anyone as an Orlando fan: I'm a fangirl for Merry and Pippin. woooOOOOoooo!!:rolleyes:
Nurvingiel
01-27-2004, 11:44 PM
Are there fanboys for Arwen, Galadriel, and Eowyn?
cassiopeia
01-28-2004, 12:02 AM
Isn't there a fanboy thread around somewhere? I can't remember what it's called.
Anadriewen
01-28-2004, 06:09 PM
I'm not a guy or anything but its I saw it somewhere and I think its something like Women in LOTR but i just saw it so I don't know
luinilwen
02-04-2004, 05:50 AM
i actually find it disturbing that so many girls can find an effeminate guy with a blonde wig and tights so appealing. it's almost as distubing as men finding women with the physique of a ten year old boy (and high heels) appealing...
and i have to say i object to this whole "fangirl" label... i mean it's so patronising! just because the movie sets are like the playgirl mansion middle earth style... and some of those kiwi boys from weta are fairly easy on the eye too... d'oh! i'd make such a useless femenist - too easily distracted :p
(*aside* i wonder if there really is a playgirl mansion...)
SamwiseLover2008
02-04-2004, 08:09 PM
This is fair to say to some people, but not all. If people have read the books, and care enoph about it to talk about some other charicters, then they don't like OB. But if all they talk about is OB and how cute he is, and squeal when they see a picture of him... then most of the time it's pointless to even talk to them about it.
Victoria
02-05-2004, 04:51 AM
I'm sorry but I think the best character execution in the movie was Gollum...not Legolas. Admittedly though Orlando Bloom is really hot and made a great Legolas, I was more impressed with the way they did Gollum.
And Galadriel looked just the way I imagined her to be when I first read the books way back when I was a kid. :)
ethuiliel
02-05-2004, 10:12 PM
I'm sorry but I think the best character execution in the movie was Gollum...not Legolas. I agree, he might not have been the most pleasant character, but he was excellently portrayed.
luinilwen
02-06-2004, 03:36 AM
you mean except for him sounding like a demented donald duck... sorry but that's just my opinion :)
Victoria
02-06-2004, 03:48 AM
that's what he's supposed to sound like anyway right?
well, ya, lotr is not just legolas. but you have to admit that legolas is one of the reasons (well if not one of the primary reasons) why lotr is one of the most-watched films ever. :p
Mrs Maggot
02-14-2004, 10:15 PM
legolas is one of the reasons (well if not one of the primary reasons) why lotr is one of the most-watched films ever
Legolas is no more a reason than any of the other characters. he only plays a minor part in the movies and in the books. the movie was popular because it was well executed and it was marketed to within an inch of it's life, because it got good reviews, because people like good vs evil type movies and cos of the anticipation of so many fans of the book.
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