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Arat-Falathion
01-12-2003, 10:09 AM
First of all Zavron, if I seemed rude in my last post, I didn't meen it that way, sorry ;) The discussion of who has been here the longest is just a bunch of crap, I meen, yes, I was registered almost a year before you here, though that doesn't matter, and I don't see how it came up in the first place...
And if you think the Red Flame in this RPG affects your other Blue Flame RPG, then very well (still I do not see how it hurts or steals your idea at all) A great idea anyway... and the Order of the Red Flame has a sertain cling to it that is so cool... I just wish you could see that putting it into this RPG will not affect your other rpg at all... and I'd hate to see Lief trash whatever plot he probably has spent many hours to come up with... but very well, looks like you stand your ground :p

Glistenfae, I guess you just have to find a way to interact further with people, till this point your character seems rather rude and mad, and I'm beginning to see that you're hinting to a reason for it... interesting!

Lief Erikson
01-12-2003, 10:59 AM
Okay Elvenfaerie, I've thought of an idea that might help you connect your character to things better.

I also got a new plot idea, and it's looking pretty good. Might have to develop it a little bit more, but it's looking pretty well in shape. I had to drop my previously written history of the Hytorax and the Red Flame-Blue Flame interaction, but this new idea still makes everything that has happened and will happen make sense. Except the titles- we'll have to go back and edit every post which calls the Red Flame or Blue Flame by their titles, Red Flame or Blue Flame. We'll have to rename them.

I personally thing the "Shadow Order" sounds corny (Sorry Zavron ;)), but I'd be open to listening to other ideas for the names of the groups.


Tessar, I rather forget what we had decided on in terms of Elise. I don't remember if it had any connection to the Flames or not. If it did, please PM me and we'll discuss how to fix it according to the new plot.

zavron
01-12-2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Arat-Falathion
First of all Zavron, if I seemed rude in my last post, I didn't meen it that way, sorry ;) The discussion of who has been here the longest is just a bunch of crap, I meen, yes, I was registered almost a year before you here, though that doesn't matter, and I don't see how it came up in the first place...


Nobody actually said anything about being in The Enrmoot. It was in This Rpg. I was here in this Rpg before you. I wasn't here when you registered, I know that.

zavron
01-12-2003, 11:53 AM
Is it allright if I work on the name of The Bad guy, seeingas I caused a bit of a disruption in the flow. I'll do that for you lief and I'll try not to make it sound corny:p.

zavron
01-12-2003, 11:59 AM
I've been looking for something that seems like some Evil Order when I found this:

There is a group of monks who worship the God, Gorn. Gorn, it is said, is a god of purity, strength, and peace. All of the beliefs and scrolls of Gorn, however, show Him as a violent enforcer of that peace. While the prescripts prohibit the drawing of blood of thy fellow creatures, it does not prohibit the use of body to bring people into the light which is the Almighty Blessed Gorn.

I found it quite Interesting and I am working on These Dark Monks and Sorcerers that worship an Evil being posing as a God, I decided to use this as a basis if that is Ok. I'm sure it will be able to fit in with you Plots lief!:)

Lief Erikson
01-12-2003, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Zavron
Nobody actually said anything about being in The Enrmoot. It was in This Rpg. I was here in this Rpg before you. I wasn't here when you registered, I know that.

Arat-Falathion is just as welcome here as you are, Zavron. Being here longer isn't going to make one person take precedence over another in the Hytorax RPG. There will be no 'hierarchy'.

Originally posted by Zavron
Is it allright if I work on the name of The Bad guy, seeingas I caused a bit of a disruption in the flow. I'll do that for you lief and I'll try not to make it sound corny.

Yes, it's fine for you, as well as anyone else, to make suggestions about the name of the bad guy group. I'd be happy to hear them :D.

Originally posted by Zavron
I found it quite Interesting and I am working on These Dark Monks and Sorcerers that worship an Evil being posing as a God, I decided to use this as a basis if that is Ok. I'm sure it will be able to fit in with you Plots lief!

I know who the villains are already, and I just need a title for their group. The only involvement of such a group that I can see happening in this RPG would be a minor role, like the mentioning of the Blue Flame and Red Flame that you made happen earlier in the RPG.

You could make some Maiar do that in another RPG though, if you want to. Like you could make an RPG about the Ontors' history, and they could have been deceived by a Maiar in such a way. That would be an interesting RPG, for the history of this new species you've invented if for nothing else.

If you're really interested in that sort of thing, as you say, I'd suggest you read the Philip Pullman trilogy called 'His Dark Materials'. Those books are on that same topic. I really enjoyed them when I read them, and I expect you would too.

zavron
01-12-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Lief Erikson
Arat-Falathion is just as welcome here as you are, Zavron. Being here longer isn't going to make one person take precedence over another in the Hytorax RPG. There will be no 'hierarchy'.

Tell that to Tessar! She's the one that started that!

I'm not going to read that book. I might make an Rpg about what you said, but I doubt it. I was just working on it. So who are the villains and what's the Plot Line.? I need to know what the boundaries are.

Arat-Falathion
01-12-2003, 02:05 PM
Lol, I wonder if my grandmother is one of those guards Athalt has gotten in his group... I see no reason for the kingdom to pay them at all :p Hobbits are small yes, but I would guess the guards kept a better lookout for the hobbits after the first getaway... just found that a bit odd :p ah well :)

Sorry for all that Zavron, that is behind everyone now... no more people being rude or angry... Lief has a new idea! :D

Let's get them ideas for the dark group coming!!

Arat-Falathion
01-12-2003, 02:43 PM
Some ideas for the name of the dark group:::
-Red Wolf clan (Order of the Red Wolf)
-Broderhood of the Black Shadow
-The Shadowhand
-The ShadowOrder
-The Black Guardian

...ok, none of those were any good... but maybe they can inspire for better ones :p a good night sleep might give birth to better ideas...

Tessar
01-12-2003, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by zavron
Tell that to Tessar! She's the one that started that!



Dear eru, why me? I'M A BOY! :p Get it right of I'll fire ball ya! ;)

From now on it will be a part of my sig. I AM A BOY.

Earniel
01-12-2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Arat-Falathion
Lol, I wonder if my grandmother is one of those guards Athalt has gotten in his group... I see no reason for the kingdom to pay them at all :p Hobbits are small yes, but I would guess the guards kept a better lookout for the hobbits after the first getaway... just found that a bit odd :p ah well :)

LOL :D My idea exactly. And to think that Imarwyn was caught when she sneaked in a camp of these guys. *sigh* I am so ashamed of that girl! :rolleyes:

Arat-Falathion
01-12-2003, 03:49 PM
Haha :D

Lief Erikson
01-12-2003, 03:55 PM
LOL! Yes, good point, Eärniel :D. Almost makes me ashamed of making my guards behave in such a way!

The Shadowhand is the idea I like best :). I'll give you some history, everybody. This group was originally assigned to undercover research, but later on its former commanders (Who will for the time being remain nameless) disappeared and the group was left to fend for itself. During that time a transformation occured in the hierarchy, as they were cut off from their old authority. That was when the hierarchy squabbles happened that the Servant of the Dark Order mentioned. They are probably still going on, but this group took on a reorientation, changing from focusing on undercover research, discoveries about magic and seizing the Hytorax, and aiming instead toward gaining power for themselves. That was when they got into orc breeding, political power grasping and all sorts of things like that.

They still are focused on their original goal, but it has now become only a part of their primary goal, which also I will keep private at this point.

Arat-Falathion
01-12-2003, 03:59 PM
Nice :D

Lief Erikson
01-12-2003, 04:10 PM
Oh yes, since some knowledge of this group has to exist if legends are going to have been made, I suppose I'll also drop that this group was influential in bringing about the destruction of Tyrn Gorthad (The old name of the Barrow Downs).

It isn't currently known how this group was involved, but the dark wizards of this bad group were seen, like wraiths in Tyrn Gorthad. Many people believe them to have been some kind of premonition of the spirits from Angmar which would animate the dead bodies of the kings of Tyrn Gorthad, but that belief was ended when Saruman the White identified them in the White Council as a perfectly believable phenomena- something that magic can produce. He claimed that they were images of the spirits of living sorcerers, looking out upon the land. Some were too weak to simply 'look', so they had to manifest themselves, and their gaze was more limited. This brought about a search by the White Tower for this mysterious group that had involved itself in the destruction of Tyrn Gorthad, but the group seemed to have simply vanished like smoke in the air.

Earniel
01-12-2003, 04:18 PM
Sounds really interesting. How do you always come up with these nice twists?

Incidentally since you have but little time to post in the RPG thread how will Athalt agree to accompany Hruad's group to the barrowdowns? Right now they are discussing it but I don't really see how Hruad would be able to convince Athalt. And you know better how to play them since they are your characters. I'm merely asking because I think a decision on it would be nice since the half of Hruad's groups starts escaping because they're bored. ;)

Lief Erikson
01-12-2003, 04:31 PM
That's a very good point.

Aralle hasn't met the company yet, has she? I don't think she's really gotten seriously involved with them yet- correct me if I'm all off.

I've been planning for Athalt to refuse Hruad's offer and take the whole company prisoner. Aralle can rescue them, which would work well for all concerned. If she doesn't rescue them, for example, if it simply wouldn't make enough sense for her to do something like that, then somehow you company members can rescue yourselves. Though that wouldn't be very good for Athalt's guards' reputation :D.

Please hold yourselves in on rescuing yourselves until Silverstripe has a chance to post, everybody, I encourage you :D. Oh, and by the way, to keep things moving, someone else can send that post for me in which Athalt refuses Hruad.

Originally posted by Eärniel
Sounds really interesting. How do you always come up with these nice twists?

Thanks :).

Silverstripe
01-12-2003, 07:09 PM
No, Aralle is not very involved with the company yet, although it looks like she's about to speak to Gil and Asaar.

Aralle herself is the type of person who might show up and rescue everyone (she's sent places to help, remember), though she would not reveal who/what she truly was, except as a last resort.

I think what we should/can do really depends on what the circumstances are when that part of the plot develops.

Also: I have some ideas about griffins (particularly Aralle) which I would like to discuss with people, particularly Tessar, Lief Erikson, and (oh, why not include the bad guys?) Servant of the Dark Order.

By the way, are we still going to include a good order in this?

Lief Erikson
01-12-2003, 08:28 PM
Ohhh . . . I guess not. Leastwise, my plot doesn't really include any at this time. There might be a group of that kind, if people need it for their characters- my ideas on that line aren't firmly settled, and if other people need/want one much, it would be easy for me to include one.

elvishfaerie3088
01-12-2003, 09:33 PM
Yes yes, of course i'm hinting at a reason for her anger and everything. Now the question is how to interact with the likes of u fools! lol jk jk hmmm this could take me a while though cause Glistenfae really doesn't interact with ppl very often and when she does she seldom speaks more than what is on her mind she doesn't chit-chat lol she likes to know the facts nothing but the facts, or just her questions answered she doesn't like being surronded by unknown ppl! And she doesnt' get interogated much! Those that question her have fallen to their deaths at times...

Legolaslvr!
01-12-2003, 10:06 PM
Can I be an elf?
Name:Dendewen
Misc:Great defender friend to Legolas!!!
Weapon: Bow & Arrow Oh yeah!!!
Apperence:a cute and nice elf like Arwen!
:)

Lief Erikson
01-12-2003, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Legolaslvr!
Can I be an elf?
Nameendewen
Misc:Great defender friend to Legolas!!!
Weapon: Bow & Arrow Oh yeah!!!
Apperence:a cute and nice elf like Arwen!
Fine :). It'll be good to have you joining us. The RPG is already underway, so we'll have to think of some method to link you into it. It shouldn't be too hard, though. Meanwhile, you might want to read some of the RPG, to get an idea of what's going on and what it's like. Oh, and is Endewen male or female?


Originally posted by Elvenfaerie
And she doesnt' get interogated much! Those that question her have fallen to their deaths at times...
Elvenfaerie, you still haven't managed to convince me that Glistenfae isn't insane :D.

Arat-Falathion
01-13-2003, 09:45 AM
Welcome Legolaslvr :) It's a pleasure to have you with us, and together with assistance of Lief I am sure your entrance will be interesting :p

I do not see how I should interact right now, so I'll wait for a post or two before continuing...

Anyway, just had to mention... I'm reading a book now called "The Thousand Orcs"... the last book in the Ice Wind Dale series. It is just so cool to see how RA Salvatore uses his skill in writing how the Dwarves speak, and the Dark Elves are really something... So much happens! I just love it! Read it!

zavron
01-13-2003, 04:11 PM
The Black Shadow. How does that sound? or. The Order of The Black Hand

Arat-Falathion
01-14-2003, 06:08 AM
Yeh, I liked thatone Zavron... The Black Hand mark on the orcs (instead of the read flame), Order of the Black Hand (or order of the shadow hand?) :p both are good suggestions in my opinion...

Maybe it is about time I introduce my new creature... a cross between demon, dark elf, dragon and frost giant! Its name is SanTUPonIaD, and is a fine creature indeed... Brought to the world for pure evil deeds, though turned kind because he fell in love with a crossbreed between an Ontor and a Dwarf... Really a sweet story I can assure you all... He wields two Balrog Flame swords and one flame whip. He also is totaly covered with mithril armour and can therefor never be wounded by fysical damage... oh, and he is resistant to all magic! He is also feared and known of his great fireball that he summons and casts at his enemies when he wants to... He is what I call Invinsible... in the true meaning... emm, I'll introduce him when I see the time is right!

Oh, btw, how long is it gonna take before we move on now? My guess is that we manage to hold the encampment till the weekend, so that Lief might do his bits of posting :p Just a thought...

Arat-Falathion
01-14-2003, 06:08 AM
*Shrugg* Double post :rolleyes:

Tessar
01-14-2003, 08:22 AM
*makes cross with two fingers* Ahhh!! God playing! NOOOOO!!!!

Just kidding! Sounds a little odd though, and what's with the crazy punctuation in his name? :D

Arat-Falathion
01-14-2003, 10:25 AM
What crazy punctuation? :p I always wanted to play GOD :D It is a Borzagon, the largest creature in Arda (exept for the Valar)... I shall enter him as soon as I see it suitable... ;)

Silverstripe
01-14-2003, 11:10 AM
LOL. Yeah, I can just picture what that would be like now.

Servant of the Dark Order
01-14-2003, 11:36 AM
Arat-Falathion:
I should warn you that tossing in an invincible character to the plot only gives the evil side an excuse to do the same, or to find some way to counter your god-mode character - which probably won't bode well for the other characters. Just a warning. ;)
But, honestly... keeping characters to a reasonable level isn't a bad idea.

zavron
01-14-2003, 12:00 PM
I've allready introduced a new carachter. It is a Gargoyle. Good one ey! I could also introduce another carachter to help elvenfairy. He's a gnome of Secrets.

Silverstripe
01-14-2003, 02:00 PM
Oh, dear. I'm beginning to feel sorry for Athalt's guards, as everyone keeps escaping on them. Except for the elves, oddly enough.

In Aralle's case, they were dealing with something they couldn't fight, because they didn't know what was going on. Basically Aralle made it painful to try to keep an eye on her. Aralle could get away with escaping this way because no one knew she had the power to do that.

Aralle wouldn't neccesarily be able to do that again when the guards did know about that particular ability. Unless of course they really are pathetic!

Just something to keep in mind. If Aralle is supposed to rescue the imprisoned company, she had better not get recaptured! :)

Someone has figured out what the capitalized letters of Arat-Falathion's (hopefully fake) character's name spells, right?

Zavron, I like your gargoyle. And it fits in particularly well with griffins as both races/creatures were "guardians" in mythology. :D

Arat-Falathion
01-14-2003, 02:33 PM
Hehe... as I bet you all understood, it was all a joke :p And the name spelt STUPID yes :D hehey... anyways... it was more a joke pointed towards all those creatures people make, making no sense at all... crossbreed between demons and elves and such things that I've read about just doesn't fit into Tolkiens "rather" realistic setting... ah well... that was my two cents of a joke :p
And no, it was not pointed towards your new creature Zavron :rolleyes: :p so don't worry :D Emm.. seriously though, could you post a more detailed description of this creature in this thread, once it is introduced to the group?
Thanks :)

Earniel
01-14-2003, 03:06 PM
*sighs very deep sigh of relief*

Thank god, Arat-Falathion. You actually had me fearing for your sanity a few minutes back. (Gullible lil' me :rolleyes: )

Oh, and by the way, to keep things moving, someone else can send that post for me in which Athalt refuses Hruad.

I will try if no one else has done it by the time I'm through my mail.

EDIT: Make that tomorrow night, I've just found out I have heaps of stuff to do before tomorrow.

Lief Erikson
01-14-2003, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Arat-Falathion
Hehe... as I bet you all understood, it was all a joke

You know what, your joke took me in too :D.

Originally posted by Arat-Falathion
Oh, btw, how long is it gonna take before we move on now? My guess is that we manage to hold the encampment till the weekend, so that Lief might do his bits of posting Just a thought...

I think I have to inform you all about something. I actually am not posting on the Hytorax RPG thread because I cannot post in it. It's nothing against the thread, which I have been enjoying greatly, and it isn't that I'm being punished or anything. I want to post, but for a personal reason I cannot, for a while. I'll be very happy when I can join in again :).

In the meantime, I can keep up on the discussion thread. The reason for my being there somewhat less than all of the rest of you is the reason I stated, that I'm very busy with school and other things. Plus my Internet connection has been having trouble today and yesterday; we'll have to fix that soon.

Lief Erikson
01-14-2003, 10:05 PM
Legolaslvr, are you still here?

Because I had a thought of how you could be included. You say you are a friend of Legolas, so in that case, you are probably acquainted with Aragorn. If that is the case, then perhaps you were assigned to meet Adrian at a certain location and escort her on to Gondor. She didn't show up, so now you are going to chase after her and find out what's happened.

Arat-Falathion
01-15-2003, 03:53 AM
LOL! Dissapointed in you guys :D Thinking "I", Arat-Falathion, would do something like that! :p No no no... I understand the rules of RPGing to "that" degree :rolleyes:

Anyway, okidokes Lief, hope you get your time settled nicely and get here with us as soon as you find time :) Oh, and your example of entrance for legolaslvr was exelent! Should work out nicely...

Heh, just can't see how anyone would fall for my little joke :p :p :p

Earniel
01-15-2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Arat-Falathion
Heh, just can't see how anyone would fall for my little joke :p :p :p

Yeah sure. RUB it in! :rolleyes: ;)

Tessar
01-15-2003, 12:33 PM
Actually if you did throw him in I was planning a major fanny-whooping scene in which Elise thinks he is a creature of evil and wipes him off (and all over) the face of middle earth no matter how resistant he is to magic because she is the next most powerful thing to a GOD.

And if you didn't realize THAT was a joke... Then I need to work on my humor... :D

Actually I'm having a few problems getting into the 'posting groove' for this thread and so I'm just sitting back and reading along for a while. I'll jump right back in soon enough... Just as soon as I get my mud zones installed, finish writing several RPGs, get more work done on my Middle Earth storie, write more Roth and Seth stories and in-between find a little time to eat sleep and do other various things like school. Plus before January is done I need to get those songs recorded for Iron P. and then by the time all this stuff is done I'll have 5000 more RPG threads to write (thank you, God. Suddenly life seems much more fun) :).

Did I mention I was busy? :)

Arat-Falathion
01-15-2003, 02:39 PM
Ah, you were bussy? Never realized that :p Oh well... right now I think we are just waiting for the morning to arrive and move along... little has happened in this spot, or maybe alot has happened but over very little time :p it makes it hard to make new posts, exept for thee who have interesting interactions atm. Being the 2 new creatures only... so we should get on the move here :)

Earniel
01-15-2003, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Eärniel
EDIT: Make that tomorrow night, I've just found out I have heaps of stuff to do before tomorrow.

Actually make that again tomorrow. The company called if I could do the last of my 7 days of practical tomorrow and I'm kind of busy preparing, having only a little time to catch up with the threads and very tiny replies.

elvishfaerie3088
01-15-2003, 09:47 PM
Arat-Falathion- I never said she had travelled the world! lol. She's just been around longer than you think i might add longer than you think! lol oooo will it be a joke on 'em when they find out, hahhahhahah oops shouldn't have said that *whistles*

Arat-Falathion
01-16-2003, 10:48 AM
*gig* :p

Mathron
01-16-2003, 11:19 AM
I tossed up a post of the decision in order to keep things moving along.

And Arat-Falathion - I got taken in too. ~grin~ You have to remember, voice tones don't carry over the web, and there are plenty of people out there who might toss forth an idea like yours in perfect seriousness.

Earniel
01-16-2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Mathron
I tossed up a post of the decision in order to keep things moving along.

Thanks a million, you've saved me the trouble. :)

*sighs of relief to find that out for once she wasn't the only one who fell for the joke*

Mathron
01-16-2003, 02:03 PM
Glad to help. :)

Arat-Falathion
01-16-2003, 04:08 PM
Lol Mathron! :) I can asure you though that I will never include such a character in any rpg... :) I'm not that ... emm... stupid? :p Thanks for moving things along!

elvishfaerie3088
01-16-2003, 10:24 PM
Um question! Should i fight with you guys or should i just stand alone and hit anyone that comes close to me? Or should i just run away??????:confused: AHHHHHHH so confused!

Lief Erikson
01-17-2003, 12:35 AM
Well, strictly speaking you aren't part of the company yet, so they might let you go. Which would give you a good opportunity to meet Aralle and organize a rescue with her.

Arat-Falathion
01-17-2003, 03:39 AM
Yeh, agreeing that there need to be someone rescuing the captives, or atleast distract Athalts group long enough (that would need to be distraction of Athalt, Imarwyn and Glimdrell I guess, since the soldiers have prooven blind and deff already :p )

Silverstripe
01-17-2003, 11:18 AM
Wel, I will try to have Aralle start a rescue effort (if it's still needed) as soon as I can finish her battle with the gargoyle.

elvishfaerie3088
01-18-2003, 09:04 PM
Yes, yes i knew i wasn't in the group but i was unsure of what to do! One more question though shall I go into my woods now and watch the fight or shall i remain and then wander into my woods after the fight has finished? The only tricky part should be convincing Aralle that i'm on her side and want to help her for i don't think she noticed me the first time i should say.

Mathron
01-19-2003, 03:29 AM
If you are planning on assisting in the rescue, sneaking into the woods now and meeting up with Aralle is probably the best idea, once she finished her bout with the gargoyle.

elvishfaerie3088
01-20-2003, 01:00 AM
? Did you want me to post now so the fight between whoever can start or am i suppose to wait? 'Cause it seems like your waiting for me to post since no one has posted. I'm sorry if i didn't know i was suppose to post and i'm holding everyone up.

Earniel
01-20-2003, 04:34 AM
I think we're waiting for the fight between the gryphon and the gargoyle to finish. As long as that goes on the rest of the group has to wait for the rescue.

Maybe you could go and find the gryphon and the gargoyle and end the fight because it is still your forest and you don't want to see it damaged during a fight. Just a suggestion, though. :)

Sicirus
01-20-2003, 03:44 PM
How about the guards get distracted by the fighting creatuuures and one of the hobbits and or elves(since they are thee most silence) escape and get help or something?

Arat-Falathion
01-20-2003, 03:51 PM
Help from whom anyway? Only living things we've met in this wood is a crazed elf and some strange never-before-seen-creatures that runs in and out... so where go for help? Nered? :p guess it is best to stay with the plan that was firstly made.. for the griffin and elf to rescue yeh in some way or the other...

Silverstripe
01-20-2003, 05:49 PM
What's funny is how everyone is calling this a "fight" when no fight has yet begun! Hmmm... well, since Zavron isn't posting, I'll try to come up with a way to temporarily end the conflict.

elvishfaerie3088
01-20-2003, 09:47 PM
Heh Heh Heh uh hope nobody else wanted that opening,:rolleyes:

Arat-Falathion
01-23-2003, 09:39 AM
Is it just me? Or is this "people using 1st person form" ( "I" instead of "name") pretty confusing..? I must say I tend to forget these characters name... specially among the hobbits :p sorry bout this, but I must admit I find the 3rd person form much more direct and easy... ahh well :p got that out of my system! :D

anyway... had to save that thing in the rpg, or felt like it... remember it is the griffin and fem.elf that is comming for the rescue, the hobbits won't ;) that was the plan anyway... though changing Athalts mind might be a little bit harder then what it seemed at first... I think the Griffin has to leave Athalt no choise but to turn his path and head for the Barrows... Which leads to another dilemma, how?

Silverstripe
01-23-2003, 12:05 PM
I agree with you, first person can be confusing. Who "I" is (er...am?) keeps changing. With third person, POV still changes somewhat, but at least it's always the same narrator.:)

Earniel
01-23-2003, 02:00 PM
I agree, with more players it's difficult (for me) to remember who's talking at the time. I find third person easier to follow.

I'm not so sure we'll find a logical way to make Athalt and his 30 soldiers go voluntarily to the barrows. After the last fight we've had it would require hefty arguments to change his mind, which I don't think we have.

It would also be very difficult to force Athalt to go. There's a slight imbalance in numbers here, no matter how bad fighters these soldiers have proven to be. :p They're still with a lot more and I definately vote against killing them all off, no matter how convenient.

I think there's more (logic and) possibility in letting the group escape Athalt and his soldiers with the help of Aralle and Glistenfae and maybe some magic on Elise's part. And maybe they manage to put Athalt on the wrong track afterwards so that he can follow them to the barrowdowns but with a few days delay so the little fellowship can do what's needed at the barrow downs before he catches up. Or you can always try to steal their horses. ;) That ought to slow them down considerably too.

Just my two eurocents. :)

EDIT: Ah, I've just seen that the rescue plan is getting started.

Mathron
01-23-2003, 07:41 PM
As might be guessed from my latest post, Aasinav is willing to use his own magic to help the group escape. He will only do so if there seems to be no other way out, and he will keep it as simple and small as possible - creating a cloud of fog, spooking off the horses, etc. Causing some minor confusion that the group can make use of to break free, without any casualties on any side. So anyone running the rescue - feel free to add that in.

Mathron
01-26-2003, 11:27 AM
Zavron - just a warning that it is not in especially good taste to cripple other player's characters without permission. Attacking them, at least in this situation is understandable - but you may wish to edit that out. Now, if Silverstripe is fine with it, that is one thing - but you may be asked to change it.

Silverstripe
01-26-2003, 04:05 PM
The problem with Aralle having a broken leg is, she wouldn't be able to accompany the group to the Barrow Downs like that! Griffins do not just heal within a day. If someone is willing to do a, er, magical healing, I guess, then it's fine. If not, I would prefer for Zavron to edit that part out. I'm not angry, but it simply isn't logical for Aralle to be going on a quest when she has a broken leg, and I don't want to miss out. :)

Sicirus
01-30-2003, 12:05 AM
Not to complain and all but when are we going to get back to the other characters?
We need to continue the story or it will dimolish(sp) And I like this rpg:( .

Mathron
01-30-2003, 03:55 PM
Well, the gargoyle's reappearance and battling seems to have obstructed the rescue attempt a little, but it doesn't mean it has completely halted. If nothing happens within the next few days, I'll begin it myself.

Sicirus
01-31-2003, 12:08 AM
Good cause I like this rpg. This is the first time i have been a hobbit in an rpg and like this change in character.

elvishfaerie3088
01-31-2003, 01:06 AM
ok, let me see if i've got this straight. The gargole is on a mountain in human form, Aralle is in the forest with one of the hobbits. Glimdrell is giving back weapons. Everyone is staring at the soilders or the sky. The soilders are staring at me (Glistenfae) on the ground cause i (Glistenfae) made a disturbance? Sounds to me like were at a stand still.

Earniel
01-31-2003, 06:07 AM
Well, I must confess that I'm rather unsure what is happening. That's why I decided to wait for other people to post until I can follow again.

Arat-Falathion
01-31-2003, 06:45 AM
err... me is rather confused too, and will wait for the game to move on... As the GM for this game (Lief) went away, it has been kinda out of control... I think we have halted in this place way to long, and it is starting to become uninteresting to me at this point...

We should get on with the quest soon... I think it is time for you Mathron to take matters into you own hands ;)

Sicirus
02-01-2003, 12:02 PM
I can attempt to get the story focused on the soldiers again but I need help.

Sicirus
02-03-2003, 07:10 AM
OK we need all our hobbits back. We need the ent and the ontor and ALL the humans and elves. I have made the group escape as the soldiers ran to find Adrian. I think this should give you rpg ideas to post.
PLEASE COME BACK:(

Arat-Falathion
02-03-2003, 03:13 PM
Heh :) This must be a world record in stupidity! LOL! Those soldiers really haven't got a clue of what they are doing :p It is really hallarious :D LOL!!
heh :)

Well then... the precaptives are now on the run towards barrow downs I believe, soldiers are hunting for adrian, Glistenfae is having trouble with Glimdrell, and I guess the Captain is running about, trying to gather the soldiers in order to take the captives again :p ah yea! We are on the roll again... a little strange way to get on the roll again, but we sertanly are on the roll :D

Earniel
02-03-2003, 04:59 PM
Neh, neh, neh! this is the most funny serious RPG I have ever played!:D Can those soldiers get any more stupid?

I've been thinking, since these soldiers are really too dumb to be true, why don't we make it the evil sorceror's fault? Maybe he has used the hytorax to make the soldiers less alert and suspecting so no one would know of his scheeming. Just a thought though.

I reread the threads again and I think I now know how things are broadly going, if I'm still wrong and I posted something impossible, give me a nudge in the right direction, okay? :)

Sicirus
02-03-2003, 09:06 PM
ooc: Earniel your avatar is adorable.:D I need to try that type of drawing. were did you get it????

Hey at least we are not stuck anymore in one spot. I was getting really bored. Plus the soldiers were stupid for keeping us captives.:D

Earniel
02-04-2003, 07:44 AM
OOC: My avatar is me from the picture that EXK made of the crew of the Nancelot. :D Remember?

It seems like Mathron has nicely solved the stupidity of the soldiers. Well done. It look's like we're back on the road. :)

Arat-Falathion
02-04-2003, 01:04 PM
Yeh! Nice avatar Earniel :D

Anyway, really great to be back in the writing now! Sorry for the short interaction with your character the Silverstripe, and sorry for fainting the she-elf :p but I don't think it would be realistic for Glimdrell to think he could face such an opponent. Remember his strength lies in the shadows, hidden, striking without being noticed... He does not confront battle eye to eye, not if there is another way out. :)

elvishfaerie3088
02-05-2003, 11:12 PM
ah no problem, didn't bother me much, though i was going to answer ur questions lol. yeah but it all works sorry if i stalled things i read the hytrox before i read this so yeah.

Earniel
02-06-2003, 04:47 AM
Zavron, what's with the sudden character change?

zavron
02-06-2003, 05:00 AM
Whoever said my carachter had changed? I play two carachters. A Goody-Baddy in the end halps out gargoyle and Boulderhead the ontor. I still play both of them.

Earniel
02-06-2003, 05:04 AM
I meant about the 'dark soldiers', where do they come from all of a sudden?

zavron
02-06-2003, 05:21 AM
There Evil! Evil guys can do basically anything. I'm not so sure about them myself.

zavron
02-06-2003, 05:23 AM
The Gargoyle's working for the bad guys, but he suits being a good guy. In the end he turns out to be good.

Arat-Falathion
02-06-2003, 09:47 AM
Errr.... please Elvishfaerie, read the posts... You need to delete or alter your post, because it is totaly out of place. I am currently bleeding from my head after crashing into a stone. Hruad and Assar is in this same spot as well.

And please, I beg all of you (though it doesn't consern the most experienced mooters), to make this a good rpg people need to put their heart and time into their posting. Too many posts seems hasty to me, rushing over too much content in all to few words... It simply makes things confusing, frustrating and boring... I am just saying this because I am a honest man, I say things the way I see and feel them...

I can not tell you to do this, and I know everyone hasn't got the english to produce it, even if they wanted to... but please do your best, and spend a little more time then 5 minutes on each post, that would make the rpg so much more thrilling!

Anyway, I'll wait till eather Hruad or Assar interact with me... I don't see how it could be in place for Glistenfae to interact like he did now, that makes just no sence and confusion to the current happening I wrote... Errr... This might sound overcritical and stupid off me, sorry if it does, but it is the mere truth... Please take it for what it is ;)

Yeh, and when I am in on the critizising... Zavron, since you have 2 characters and write both of them in 1st person, please make a Boulderhead: or Gargoyl: before your posts to make less confusion :) thanks!

Hopes high :D :D :D

:p

Servant of the Dark Order
02-06-2003, 08:46 PM
'Ey, Zavron - sorry bout killin' off your soldiers, but your fiddling with the bad guy stuff might screw up the plot. Though it could make some neat dynamics between the bad guys and all. :)

Mathron
02-06-2003, 08:54 PM
Hey guys - just wanted to step in and make sure no one is getting upset.
I wanted to remind everyone of one of the main rules of roleplay - be careful with other player's characters.
Arat-Falathion - you have been on the moot and while, and done a great job in a lot of RPGs - but don't be too harsh on the others. Remember that while Elvishfaerie's latest post might not mesh perfectly with what you intended to have happening, you *did* incapacitate her character. And it isn't much fun to play in an RPG where another character easily removes yours from the game - what is left for her to do, or post about, when her character is unconscious?
Elvishfaerie - a small advice that, sometimes, it doesn't hurt to play along with others actions - and not to then try and reverse the tables, others we end up with a 'cop and robbers' scenario. We are all on the same team, after all - trying to tell a story. ~grin~
In any case, what I would recommend be done:
Elvishfaerie, you might want to either remove your previous post - or simply have your character wake up a few minutes later, shake off the effects, and rejoin the others - maybe without holding a knife at anyone's throat this time. :) To be honest, the more you do that, the less likely that the other characters will work with yours.
Finally, just want to let anyone know I'm not criticizing anyone here - just trying to make sure everything is resolved peacefully.

elvishfaerie3088
02-06-2003, 09:35 PM
SHE SHE SHE SHE SHE! Do any of you not get that????? I am a girl a female a woman whatever you want to say! just get it right. I am confused and i'm going to alter it! Jeepers don't spazz at me! *how dares they* I'll do what i want to thank you i had no idea arath had other plans! otherwise i would not have intertuded, now i will alter the stupid post. Yeah me go with the group great idea, they dont' really like me, why should i stay? my forest i'll do what i please in it! *gosh, darn ppl, yes i agree with you, can they not see, no course not* Don't ask!

Arat-Falathion
02-07-2003, 05:12 AM
I know Mathron, reading over what I wrote yesterday I feel kinda ashamed :( I don't know what came over me...

It was nothing like Elvishfaerie erased my big plan for what was going to happen, nah, rather that I was in the same place as 2 other characters, and she didn't take any notice of those in her post, but after a nights sleep I see, even with your post, Elvishfaerie, it could all have worked out :p
I could simply have written my next post as if it were before the confrontation in your post, and therefor give it all a little sence. That is what I should have done, and I'm sorry ;)

After Sicirus post, it looks like you finaly cought up with us though, faerie :D Guessing your mad mind didn't have the patience to hang out in that tree for long, me having fainted you and all :p And not the least, all sorts of strang folk footing around in your forrest :)

And yes, I know I shouldn't have fainted you, but I saw it from Glimdrells point of view. Doing as he did just seemed like the obvious to me really... still I am sorry for hurting your character, guess I'll be getting back for that... :D :D :D

Sorry for loosing it like that! Hoping it won't happen again :p

elvishfaerie3088
02-07-2003, 06:57 PM
lol sorry i kinda lost it too, too much going through head, i need a holiday, *cries* lol. yeah too much stress in life this is like my only escape anyhow, i told you already i think? its okay you fainted my character i was gone for a while but hey, i can go with what ever anyone throws me.

zavron
02-08-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by Servant of the Dark Order
'Ey, Zavron - sorry bout killin' off your soldiers, but your fiddling with the bad guy stuff might screw up the plot. Though it could make some neat dynamics between the bad guys and all. :)

I'm sorry but you're going to have to delete your post. The Dark Soldiers work for the main bad guys. There was no need to kill them. They are not ordinary soldiers. They were and still are going to be in it more. Whoever said you were in charge of the bad guy department. The Soldiers have magical powers and would have been able to smash your carachter into a gooey pulp. What you just did then was Godmodding in the extreme bad. Don't do it again.

They are part of my carachter's plot. They work for the main evil dude, and are his main soldier general-dudes. My carachter also works for the big bad boss as a Bounty Hunter sent after the group.

Please Delete that post.

Arat-Falathion
02-08-2003, 04:10 PM
Emm... Zavron, is Lief aware of this plot you're having?? I think Lief actually has filled Servant in the Dark in with the info needed to let him run the bad guys... that is the way these things work anyway, the GM (Lief) makes the plot, and we others just interact with what happens... if Servant of the Dark has been filled in from Lief, then he has actually been given the power to do pretty much as he likes with the bad guys... and has also been given the task to keep the plot to the plot, and not go some other way...
I though Lief had given Servant of the Dark this task, right?

and thanks Elvishfaerie :)

Silverstripe
02-08-2003, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Servant of the Dark Order
I shall be joining in to assist Lief with the forces of darkness, heheh.

Silverstripe
02-08-2003, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Lief Erikson
LOL! Yes, good point, Eärniel :D. Almost makes me ashamed of making my guards behave in such a way!

The Shadowhand is the idea I like best :). I'll give you some history, everybody. This group was originally assigned to undercover research, but later on its former commanders (Who will for the time being remain nameless) disappeared and the group was left to fend for itself. During that time a transformation occured in the hierarchy, as they were cut off from their old authority. That was when the hierarchy squabbles happened that the Servant of the Dark Order mentioned. They are probably still going on, but this group took on a reorientation, changing from focusing on undercover research, discoveries about magic and seizing the Hytorax, and aiming instead toward gaining power for themselves. That was when they got into orc breeding, political power grasping and all sorts of things like that.

They still are focused on their original goal, but it has now become only a part of their primary goal, which also I will keep private at this point.

Silverstripe
02-08-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Lief Erikson
Oh yes, since some knowledge of this group has to exist if legends are going to have been made, I suppose I'll also drop that this group was influential in bringing about the destruction of Tyrn Gorthad (The old name of the Barrow Downs).

It isn't currently known how this group was involved, but the dark wizards of this bad group were seen, like wraiths in Tyrn Gorthad. Many people believe them to have been some kind of premonition of the spirits from Angmar which would animate the dead bodies of the kings of Tyrn Gorthad, but that belief was ended when Saruman the White identified them in the White Council as a perfectly believable phenomena- something that magic can produce. He claimed that they were images of the spirits of living sorcerers, looking out upon the land. Some were too weak to simply 'look', so they had to manifest themselves, and their gaze was more limited. This brought about a search by the White Tower for this mysterious group that had involved itself in the destruction of Tyrn Gorthad, but the group seemed to have simply vanished like smoke in the air.

Silverstripe
02-08-2003, 04:30 PM
That's about all I can find about the bad guys in this thread. I am not going to argue with anyone right now. I'm only putting out the information I found, so we can perhaps decide what does or does not make sense according to what Lief has said. :)

Servant of the Dark Order
02-09-2003, 02:01 AM
Zavron - I apologize if my actions felt like 'godmodeing'. I can't argue that that wasn't what they were. However... your actions were directly running counter to some very central plot of the entire RPG. You chose to create some new bad guys without contacting either Lief and myself, when we are the ones who have been running the bad guys. The presence of the gargoyle on its own managed to slow down a great deal of play for the others, and adding in the soldiers seemed unnecessarry.
If you'd like to have some relevant plot for your character relating to the bad guys, feel free to Private Message me and we can work something out - but you were messing with some of the bad guy plot without asking.
Especially considering that you were the one who, earlier, got upset when we added in an element of your design - the name of "Order of the Red Flame", I would expect you to be able to understand that going around and changing around vital plot for us isn't much fun. I can't claim to speak for Lief, since he is busy - but that is the reason I did what I did.
No offense was meant - but if you would like to have bad guys under your control, pertaining to your character, letting us know first would be appreciated.
To be honest, I do believe that, especially in a online role play like this, the presence of GM figures is needed. Otherwise everyone ends up with their own plot, and nothing is really resolved. I'm certainly not planning on doing anything 'godmode' with people's main characters - but I hope people can see my reasons for what I did with your random dark soldiers.

Arat-Falathion
02-09-2003, 05:51 AM
Exactly what I thought... Rules of roleplaying :)

Arat-Falathion
02-10-2003, 05:38 AM
Emm.. just wondering, who might this character be who was introduced by err... Silverstripe? The dark figure in the fog aproaching towards Hruad, Assar and the fainted limb of Glimdrell? Is it Elvishfaeries char?

Earniel
02-10-2003, 01:16 PM
Fne... confused again...

Can anyone tell me whether I'm right or wrong on this:

Every one ran into the forest, and all the soldiers enjoy a nice magical beauty sleep.

Hruad and Asaar ended up in one spot of the forest, Glimdrell smashed his head in front of them and Sicirus' character (I'm so ashamed, I forgot the name) found them and helped them carry the unconcious elf on the back of a wolf (?) back to the rest of the company.

Underway they ran into someone who I suppose was meant to be Servant of the Dark Order's evil character (Sicirus will have to affirm this since she was the one who brought it up) but Lossilewen (welcome BTW) who arrived with Aralle faced him down.

Then they all proceeded on horseback back to the clearing where Elise, Aasinav, Adrian, the ent, the ontor and probably one or two others that I'm forgetting, are.

Meanwhile Glistenfae is wandering the woods between, looking for Glimdrell, and Imarwyn is hiding close to the clearing where the others are.

The gargoyle is somewhere between a mountain (beats me where he found that mountain, 'though) and the camp, advancing towards the camp.


It's very annoying not to know just what is going on at the moment and therefor not being able to post without the risk of being totally wrong. I suppose it's my grasp of English, so can anyone please thell me if I'm right?

Mathron
02-10-2003, 03:14 PM
You seem to have summarized things as well as possible (so many characters does make it hard to keep track of things!)
Anyway, I've just used momentary GM powers and posted with as much as consolidation and organization of things as I could manage. Apologies if anyone was desperately wanting their character to remain lost in the woods. :) Hopefully we can stay as a party for more than a few seconds now. ~grin~
And I hope I didn't have any characters say stuff they wouldn't normally say - I was simply trying to get everyone together and all issues on the table. And if I missed anyone, please, let me know!

In addition, I am assuming the following things about areas of the plot that contradicted:
1) Glistenfae was stunned by Glimdrell's attack, but quickly came to, though he had already gone. She searched for him, but didn't find him until she tracked the others back to the clearing.
2) The dark sorcerer, after killing the soldiers on the mountain (or simply warning them, or whatever), showed up long enough to spook the characters, and then resumed watching them.

Tessar
02-10-2003, 07:23 PM
Very nicely done Mathron!

Well now that we are all together lets all make a big effort to KEEP that way.

I.E. If you simply MUST run off somewhere be sure to not leave it hanging, actually go on and post how you come back. :)

Arat-Falathion
02-11-2003, 04:07 AM
Thanks alot Mathron! Seems to me you got every character into that post who was supposed to be there :) Good work! Since I am fainted, I really don't have anything to post atm, so I guess I'll have a hard time leaving the company as it is... Guess you all will have an easy time convinsing me of your true faith to king and country when I finally awake from my cursed dream... :p

Lief Erikson
02-11-2003, 09:54 PM
:D Poor Glimdrell. If he had been a little less the silent assassin and a little more the merry elf, he probably wouldn't have dreams like that :D.

Anyway, I'm back again, everybody! Mathron and everyone, thanks for drawing everything back together. Now, hopefully, we can continue to the Barrow Downs without major interruption.

Zavron, by PM please inform me what your plot intentions are as far as these new villains you've created go.

Thanks, Eärniel, for posting that description of where everyone is and how they got there :). It made it clearer in my mind.

Arat-Falathion
02-12-2003, 03:51 AM
Yeh... Poor, poor Glimdrell :D

"It is great to have you back Lief!" /me squirts in /me tiny hobbitvoice and runs in for a jumping hug ;)

Welcome back!

Earniel
02-12-2003, 06:52 AM
Oooh, welcome back Lief! :) Found enough time to join us again?

Glad you liked the summary although I wasn't certain whether everyone was were I thought they were.

Tessar
02-12-2003, 02:18 PM
*does the happy dance* LIEF!! Yay!!!!!!!!!

Arat-Falathion
02-12-2003, 03:56 PM
:D Did you check your PMs lately Eärniel? :p

Earniel
02-12-2003, 05:25 PM
I did Arat-Falathion, but the matter you've put before me takes a little more thinking from my part. And I haven't had much time yet to think it through thoroughly. You will get my answer friday at the latest. :)

Edit: Oh, and for future references: I'm a girl.

Lief Erikson
02-13-2003, 07:56 PM
It might be interesting to note, in case anyone hasn't noticed this detail, that as Losillewen and Glimdrell both came from Lothlorien, there's a chance that they know each other. Which could have the possible effect of causing Losillewen to be less trusting of the company because they've imprisoned Glimdrell, as she doesn't know them. She could be caught between friendship with Aralle and Glimdrell. It could have the added effect of giving Losillewen a reason to become interested in this business, rather than her simply being with the company because of Aralle.

Of course, the silent assassin might keep to himself a lot and it's possible that there's no connection whatsoever (Which it's perfectly fine to do). I'm simply mentioning it as a possibility that those playing those characters might be interested in thinking about.

Ms. Undomial
02-13-2003, 08:43 PM
Now that you mention it Lief that is an interesting point. Either way is fine with me, so it can be whichever Arat-Falathion prefers. :)

elvishfaerie3088
02-14-2003, 12:01 AM
uh i'm confused who's Losillewen? If you are talking about me, which i think because it sounds like it but i could be wrong of course i probably am. But uh yeah who is Lossillewen??????

Mathron
02-14-2003, 01:58 AM
Losillewen is Ms. Undomial's character, who Aralle contacted to help the party out. She's only recently arrived.

Arat-Falathion
02-14-2003, 06:27 AM
Hmm.. an interesting point you have there Lief... What so ever, I do not think it would fit in with my characters character if you get my meaning... He IS a lonely shadow-walker, he does not normally gather with others.

The way out of this, as I am thinking, keeping Liefs idea, is simply to add "childhood"... perhaps we were friends in the old times? Now, that would be made possible, and perhaps bind an even stronger relationship between us two, as very good friends, who hasn't seen eachother for many many years (even many ages) suddenly meet eachother again... I would have alot to explain when I awake I guess :p I guess it would startle Losillewen to see me though, maybe not believing her own eyes before she actually starts talking with me :p we'll see...

Arat-Falathion
02-14-2003, 09:28 AM
Oh, and btw! I am 20 years today!! WOHOOO!!! that is two, cero! YEH!

*/me runs up at the table and clears my throat*

Happy birthday to me
Happy birthday to me
Happy biiiirthday dear Falathion
Happy birthday to me!

*cheering wildly*

In advance:
THANKS! :D :D :D

ahh... no longer teenager :p

Mathron
02-14-2003, 09:49 AM
Hey, happy birthday man!

Arat-Falathion
02-14-2003, 10:06 AM
*/me bows deeply*

Thanks alot! :D

Tessar
02-14-2003, 11:20 AM
Yay! Go you! :D

Lief Erikson
02-14-2003, 01:07 PM
Happy birthday! Have a long and pleasant adulthood :D.

Arat-Falathion
02-14-2003, 01:48 PM
thank you and thank you :D

Ms. Undomial
02-14-2003, 02:03 PM
Happy Birthday Arat-Falathion! May the leaves of your life never turn brown. ;)

Aye, that could work, but would you like to notice me first, or should I come up and ask you if you are really Glimdrell of old? Or have you thought of something else?

Arat-Falathion
02-14-2003, 02:28 PM
Read what I just wrote in the hytorax thread :) Interact with it as you like :) or just ignore it :d

Ms. Undomial
02-14-2003, 02:35 PM
I will not ignore it, :) but it will take me rather long to reply, nassty writers block. :rolleyes:

Arat-Falathion
02-15-2003, 12:55 PM
Heh :) Fun to write in quenya... one really has to be creative, for the language itself isn't large enough to host all words usually needed, so one will have to make new words using the words already in there :p I am no quenya expert myself eather, but I think I can give an advice or two... firstly, the use of "i" (the) is very seldomly actually used... in the "I Glimdrell en’ yerna" it is right to use it, but in the sentence: "Inye intya mme nar I ve" the "the" here should be cut out, making the sentence: "Inye intya lme nar ve"

One other thing you may want to notice, is that words like "-lme" (we) is never written alone, rather it should me melted in with the word it is pointing towards. "I believe we are the same" That would be "are". What kind of corpus did you use for your writings? In my corpus "are" translates "-ier". So you would actually have to bind all the last tree words together in a way. I always bind these so that it sounds the best pronounsing it :p "ve-ier-(e)lme" would the binding become "same-are-we", put in the (e) in there, because "r" and "l" doesn't sound right after another. So "veierelme" would meen "we are the same".

So, the sentence would become "Kyern veierelme" if I were to write it... though there is no word for "believe". "Kyermë" (prayer/believer) was the closest I got, cuting out the -më at the end there, it somewhat becomes pray/believe (not totaly sure of this). I would probably have kept the -më in though, for it sounds better :p "Kyermën veierelme". Kyer-n ve-ier-(e)lme = Believe-I same-are-we. Seriously though, a direct translation from english to quenya would make it all wrong, so when translating a quenyan sentance, it will sound rediculous in english :p Yet, much of what is written here might be very wrong, though, it works and is more right then writing every quenyan word alone in the english writing system :)

A hard language to learn indeed! :D

Check out Ardalambion (http://www.ardalambion.com) for the biggest corpus list on the net... all Arda languages included :) The Sindarin (which is the language commonly used by the Silvan elves, I think) is the biggest language of them all, though I have mostly been working with Quenya...

Thanks, and hope it was interesting for some of you atleast :p

Arat-Falathion
02-16-2003, 02:45 PM
Sorry to say I'm leaving for London tomorrow :p

Will probably be back in a week or so... :)

Have a good time!

- Falathion

Lief Erikson
02-17-2003, 01:00 PM
Well, since you're not really present to make your character's responses to situations, I've done a conversation between your character and Athalt without you present. I hope you don't mind.

We look forward to your return!

Lief Erikson
02-17-2003, 08:28 PM
Adrian, did you read my most recent post? We've just reached the Barrow Downs and everyone's awake, on its border. I'm glad to see you posting here again, though :). It's been a while since you last did.

I'm rather unsure about this shapeshifting power that you've just introduced, though. Forgive me if I say so, but it doesn't make much sense and hasn't been shown or mentioned in the character description. Not even Valar or Maiar were reported as being able to do this. Did she earn this power in a previous RPG, or are you making it start out in her? If there's a very good reason for her having it, then I'd probably be willing to accept it. But it seems like a pointless power boost to me.

I know you're not going to like reading this, and I'm sorry to have to say it. Having her a young hobbit, Frodo's sister, armed with Frodo's sword and going to Gondor makes sense. But having her a powerful shapeshifter just doesn't, to me.

Earniel
02-19-2003, 04:52 PM
Lief, I take it that Athalt and Imarwyn did not join the rest or did they?

Lief Erikson
02-20-2003, 08:35 PM
No they didn't join the company. It's against Athalt's interests to believe them, so he's blinding himself. But he's smart enough to know that he could be wrong, so he is being careful in how he behaves toward them.

Tessar
02-21-2003, 02:38 PM
Is Assar sill in the barrows? I'm sorry, I reread the posts a few times but wasn't quite able to figure it out. I'm guessing he is still in them?

And, Sic, it wasn't a stuped post, sorry if I snapped at you and thanks for being understanding and removing it :).

Also thanks to Lief for mentioning about the deeper parts and being crushed, I hope I'm not projecting Elise as being godly, but you're better at fixing my RPG mistakes then I am anyways *poke* .
:p

Lief Erikson
02-22-2003, 11:13 AM
Tom Bombadil was able to bust into those barrows easily enough, so it has always made sense to me that Elise could too. I just don't want the Hytorax to be too easy to get :).

Tessar
02-23-2003, 07:22 PM
*nudge nudge* of course not.

Arat-Falathion
02-24-2003, 07:21 AM
heh :) Me is back! Wohoo!
Heh, looks like things are getting confusing again here :p so with respect for everyone and in an effort not to mess things up to further confusion, I'll delay my posting till things clear up :p

Oh, and god! I am tired of hearing "Mind the gap!" "Stand clear of the doors!" gagh! Those subway-people talking over the speakers really don't know when to shut up :p In england that is...

Lief Erikson
02-25-2003, 03:02 AM
Great to have you back, Arat-Falathion :).

So, what's holding everyone up on posting? If you're concerned about not knowing what's supposed to happen next, I can tell you, but I shouldn't think it should be that much of a problem. The obvious course of action is to discuss briefly Adrian's disappearance and plan some course of action for advancing into the Barrow Downs. Elise's power obviously has already been shown to be strong enough to protect them on the surface of the Barrow Downs, so they should be safe enough going through the top layer.

Arat-Falathion
02-25-2003, 08:14 AM
Ah! Thanks for clearing things up there Lief :)

Earniel
02-26-2003, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by Lief Erikson
So, what's holding everyone up on posting?

I'd say homework, well at least in my case. ;) But now that I have some time between cleaning and homework, I'll post again.

Arat-Falathion
02-27-2003, 03:21 PM
Something leapt from the shadows and a weapon flashed, blocking the pale blade. It was a man- Aasinav.

Damn that guy can write!!! You give me chills Lief :D :D :D

- Falathion

Arat-Falathion
02-27-2003, 06:15 PM
Elvishfaerie: I doubleposted on the Hytorax thread... that's the *whopsy* , nothing else :)

Mathron
02-27-2003, 08:19 PM
whopsy indeed...

And just to clarify what went on in my post, in case anyone was confused: While the Barrow Wight was distracted by the others, Aasinav cut it off from the Hytorax, which it was using as a source of power.

I left it open-ended as to what happened to the Barrow Wight once it was cut off - I'll leave it up to Lief as to whether it can still escape, etc.

But now the Hytorax is safely ours. :)

Lief Erikson
02-27-2003, 11:26 PM
I frankly don't care what happens to the Barrow Wight :). It's a side character.
Damn that guy can write!!! You give me chills Lief :D:D:D
Thanks :).

Legoles
02-28-2003, 12:55 AM
Row row row your boat gently down the stream
throw the Nazgul overboard
listen to me scream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Legoles
02-28-2003, 12:57 AM
please tell us we are dying to know

Lief Erikson
02-28-2003, 01:44 AM
Legoles, is your posting here just joking around, or do you have a question?

Arat-Falathion
02-28-2003, 12:08 PM
Ahhh... soon off to Nèred I guess... and I wonder if we'll ever see these strange orcs again... hmm... :D :eek:

The company is sleeping, so I don't wanna be the one to wake up firstly :p

Arat-Falathion
03-04-2003, 04:07 AM
Heh, it is funny how things tend to slow down when Lief isn't active, and since Mathron had the last post, who shall then get things on the move again? Hmm... If I understood everything right, we are now heading back to Néred, though I think this part will be so immerced into the Plot Lief has made for the RPG, that he will actually need to participate himself in order to get it right...
What is everyones thought on this?

- Falathion

Lief Erikson
03-06-2003, 02:13 AM
I'm actually waiting for Sicirus to post; Gil-Thalion seemed about to notice the camp Athalt and Imarwyn had been staying at(Not necessary, but I don't want to interfere with what other characters are doing as much as possible), and also she was going to notice Aralle in the tree.

And when we do reach Néred (Anyone can post the journey), naturally they will plan some sort of a covert mission to reach the king and free him from his spell.

But yes, after whatever covert mission is decided upon begins, I will have to be posting seriously. And I am still planning to be here as much as I can; it's just that I'm in the middle of the school week right now, so until the week-end it won't be that easy.

Earniel
03-06-2003, 07:06 AM
Sicirus, if that's the camp of Athalt and Imarwyn you're at right now than I think you'll have to edit. Athalt and Imarwyn had already left for Néred before your company woke so it can't be them.

Lief Erikson
03-06-2003, 08:16 PM
I'm very sorry, Sicirus and Silverstripe, about this little goof-up in understanding. I thought you were going to find the empty camp, not the one with them in it. So you can just change your posts to have them investigating an empty camp, if you want. Because Eärniel's right; we're gone.

Sicirus
03-06-2003, 09:25 PM
Oh, Soory about that. :o

Lief Erikson
03-09-2003, 04:49 AM
So nobody wants to write the journey to Néred? I'll do it in a couple more days, if no one else will.

You guys really can do what you like with your characters; I'd imagine things will get more fun after we reach Néred again.



Ah yes, one thing I've been really thinking about lately is the freedom of players to do what they want. I'm concerned that in this RPG some of that freedom might be restricted and a few of you might be uncertain as to what you can or cannot do. My plot isn't very fragile, let me inform you now.

I've had people throw plot elements into my plans before and have been able to compensate. Even though it can be courteous to discuss these plans with the GM first, I'm becoming open to people doing it without even informing me, just so long as they know what they're doing. I just want this RPG to get back on its feet and everyone to loosen up and enjoy it.

Eärniel, you can make Imarwyn summon relations of hers with other plot connections or something to assist Athalt in this crisis. Silverstripe, you can make Aralle fly on ahead to scout out what they'll find in Néred and to spy on Vahatres. Elvishfaerie, you can make Glistenfae meet someone she knew in the past who is now working for the Shadowhand, and create an interesting connection that way.

I'm not saying that you have to do something exciting or particularly outlandish with your character, I'm just trying to say that if it will enhance your enjoyment of the RPG, please do so.

Mathron
03-09-2003, 01:55 PM
Sorry I haven't been posting too much - been veeery busy with schoolwork, and will be going home for a few days for spring break (and won't be online as much.) Hopefully I'll be posting again mid next week.

Arat-Falathion
03-09-2003, 01:59 PM
and last week I was very bussy, topping to the extreem this weekend, so there's my 2 cents for not posting at the thread in a few days :)

and have a nice trip Mathron!

Sitting down to write now...

Earniel
03-09-2003, 02:09 PM
Mmm, now there's a thought. :) I'll think about. But I'll better wait until Arat-Falathion is done writing.

Arat-Falathion
03-09-2003, 02:25 PM
Ah, sorry for spending so much time on so little text... but I had a thing comming up that I had to do, and so forgot the text for a second :p sorry

Earniel
03-09-2003, 02:28 PM
Nah, don't worry about it. It's no big deal. I just didn't want to take the risk of having clashing posts if we both posted at the same time. :)

Arat-Falathion
03-11-2003, 12:17 PM
Oh, comeon everybody! Post something :( Why is it that everyone is posting so much slower when we are not fighting? gig! We should be doing character developement now, setteling relations between our characters... instead everyone waits with their posting until we reach the action! Oh please, somebody post :confused:

thanks

elvishfaerie3088
03-11-2003, 09:00 PM
Maybe their plotting.

Lief Erikson
03-13-2003, 02:53 AM
Well, some of us are here, anyway. A lot of people have begun to post less, but I don't think plot development is at all the cause. People can post as they please though, and a few of us are still around. More will join in, I hope, when things really start cooking in Néred.

Arat-Falathion
03-13-2003, 04:34 AM
Heh... guess me is worrying too much :p Oh well... I truly agree with you Lief, once Néred starts cooking, more chefs will arive to get the soup finished for dinner :D

Arat-Falathion
03-13-2003, 04:17 PM
Now, I am the man with the plan :) So I would kindly plead for people not making to large plotposts right now... me is begging :) Not hindering any replys at all, just saying I have a plan of how we can get in, and that I don't have more time to write that now... so I'll have to wait till the morning... that is about 12 hours :rolleyes:
So... thanks :)

- Falathion

Arat-Falathion
03-14-2003, 06:00 AM
Alright, first of all, if anyone thinks I am taking the whole story in my own hands here, you can have my word on that I have spoken with Lief about this matter already :)

I thought that just leading the company right in would be a little too easy... there needed to be a second hindering, and now Glistenfae and Glimdrell stands over a true challenge, to get the party through those "closed" gates, without the guards noticing... how in all middle earth are we going to make that possible?

Oh well, atleast Glimdrell is on the inside... that should be of some help I guess :p

Also, sorry for the long read... that was 2 full posts of text :p hope everyone is keeping up ;)

- Falathion

Lief Erikson
03-15-2003, 05:52 PM
I liked your posts a lot :).

Note to whoever posts next: Athalt Cranain is not going to join or assist the company at this point. He might come into contact with Imarwyn and her brother, but that's up to Eärniel. He might be watching the company, but at present he has no plans to interfere with or aid their mission.

Lief Erikson
03-19-2003, 08:15 PM
We're heading for the citadel, Sicirus. It'll be tough to get in, I agree. Any ideas, anyone?

Arat-Falathion
03-25-2003, 03:55 PM
Seems like you already displayed a good enough idea there with your connector Lief :) I believe that entering this citadel without permission would be out of most of the characters reach. I believe that even Glimdrell with his cunning stealth would need to go beyond his skill. This dark mage seems like a strong one... should be hard to get in on him (or the king) without him knowing... :p

Been a bussy weekend for me, getting back in normal routine again now... ahh, tend to like that :)

Lief Erikson
04-02-2003, 08:58 PM
So, from here on things take a rather different from expected turn for our characters. Here Hytorax Part 2 starts. It won't be longer than Part 1, actually it'll probably be shorter.

Does anyone not have time to keep this RPG going from here on? If so, I'll understand, and we can kill your character off here.

We might be able to accept some new people in pretty soon also. If anyone reading this thread has interest, please say so.

If anyone doesn't have time to continue, I'll be sorry to see them go. But this RPG, as you know, doesn't require an extremely fast rate, so I hope you all are willing to continue through the last steps of this adventure.

Tessar
04-03-2003, 06:56 PM
Well I'm willing to keep going, and I'm fairly sure that now that there aren't quite so many things going on I wont get all upset and confused again :).

Sicirus
04-03-2003, 09:45 PM
I am trying to figure out what my character should do but being in the situation they are in now is kinda hard to figure out.

Mathron
04-04-2003, 01:43 AM
Current situation, in case anyone is confused:

Party manages to sneak into the Citadel. They enter the king's chambers to find the sorcerer waiting for them, with a contingent of soldiers.

Aasinav steps forward, summoning a 'shadow' of himself to his side (the shadowy figure in Servant of a Dark Order's posts - that was actually me.) He reveals himself as in leage with Dagankor, and vanishes, along with the Hytorax.

Party is left in a rather dismal situation - outnumbered by many enemy warriors, with one of their own members revealed as an enemy, and the object they strove so hard to get instantly removed beyond their grasp.

Tessar
04-04-2003, 01:55 AM
Sounds like it's time for Elise to start kicking butt.

Errr... I mean, sounds like I need to... Ahhh... involve myself in the plot again. Yea that's it.

:p

Arat-Falathion
04-07-2003, 10:13 AM
Oh! That kinda came like a hit in the face, or rather a jab to the nose! Never realized that Aasinav would turn his back on us :eek:

Nice twist there ;) and ofcurse, I am still in! I wouldn't miss it for the world...

Was gone the last days (or more like a week) because school was upgrading the internet to adsl... nice :)

Will this 2nd part start in a new thread?

- Falathion

Mathron
04-07-2003, 02:10 PM
I think it will be a new thread, though Lief is the one in charge. And yeah, Aasinav has been bad from the beginning, simply using the party to get access to the Hytorax. ~grin~

Earniel
04-08-2003, 07:45 AM
Ooh, nice twist! It came completely unexpected. Poor Imarwyn isn't going to know anymore WHO to trust after this one. :p

For the record: I'm still in.

Sicirus
04-08-2003, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Mathron
I think it will be a new thread, though Lief is the one in charge. And yeah, Aasinav has been bad from the beginning, simply using the party to get access to the Hytorax. ~grin~

I guess he was using Gil too huh?:(
Oh well, so what now????

Lief Erikson
04-09-2003, 01:08 AM
I'll send the first post to start a new Hytorax Part 2 document. I've already posted its discussion thread, and we can continue the discussion there.

Glad you're still in, Eärniel :).

Yes, Sicirus, Aasinav, Dagankor and the Shadowhand were using Gil and the whole company. It was their plan from the beginning, and their reason for letting Hruad's rebellion take wing: Rather than risking their own to get the Hytorax, they risked their enemies. It's true that Aasinav was at risk also, but there was less risk there to them than there would have been in sending in their own warriors.

Lief Erikson
04-09-2003, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by Eärniel
Ooh, nice twist! It came completely unexpected. Poor Imarwyn isn't going to know anymore WHO to trust after this one. :p
At least Imarwyn wasn't in there among the company from the start. It'll be a nasty shock to Glimdrell, Gil and the other company members, but Imarwyn wasn't really one of them. Elise wasn't too much surprised though. That was rather interesting to me how Tessar actually posted making her briefly suspect Aasinav of treachery, as they approached the citadel. As having a traitor in our group is a totally new thing, basically, I didn't expect anyone to lay a finger on it. Elise probably will have her trusting damaged more through this.
Originally posted by Tessar
She was tired, perhaps she was being too cynical, but this sorcerer was extremely powerful. It would take both her and Aasinav's full strength to repel him, and that was assuming that Aasinav was not in league with the sorcerer. There, she was being far too cynical now. She would simply have to trust him.

Mathron
04-09-2003, 03:13 PM
Well, remember that Aasinav had his subtle attempt to undermine the groups power by portraying Elise as a coward when she wanted to wait to rescue people from the Barrow-wights. I can certainly see Tessar picking up on that - or at least it being a good reason for Elise to suspect Aasinav.
But yeah, I was definitely impressed by that too.

Arat-Falathion
04-09-2003, 05:49 PM
Yeh, agreed. When Tessar wrote that about Elise not trusting Aasinav I thought 2 ways. Eather Tessar, Mathron and Lief had discussed the topic, telling that Elise would find out of Aasinavs betrayal and stop him, and that Tessar just wrote a very lame post, telling it too openly for my opinion.

Or

This that seems to have occured. True aware you are of you surroundings Tessar/Elise :) Truly aware!

- Glimdrell Silvershadow

Earniel
04-09-2003, 06:32 PM
I must be really dense then because when I read Tessar's post I thought 'Huh, that's odd, why would he write something like that?' :p

Arat-Falathion
04-09-2003, 07:06 PM
Good point Eärniel :) When you say so, that crossed my mind as well :p

Lief Erikson
04-10-2003, 02:46 AM
You know, one of the more interesting things about it is really that this has probably never been done before. I mean, anyway not in an RPG that I've done. I've never gone into cahoots with another player and asked them to play a traitor until now :D. It adds a little touch of realism, perhaps, and I quite enjoyed Mathron's writing of Aasinav.
Originally posted by Mathron
Well, remember that Aasinav had his subtle attempt to undermine the groups power by portraying Elise as a coward when she wanted to wait to rescue people from the Barrow-wights. I can certainly see Tessar picking up on that - or at least it being a good reason for Elise to suspect Aasinav.
That attempt was a little too subtle for me, I'm afraid, though I might have noticed it if it were in a book. I just thought Aasinav was being bold, and as we talked about over PM, was trying to demonstrate his loyalty plainly to the company.