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Helix
12-12-2002, 05:01 PM
My friend receantly asked a really bizarre trivia question, and I don't know where to find the answer. He asks..

What was the battle cry of Malach's great-great-great-great-grandson? (that's four greats)

Malach, I think, was a Man mentioned somewhere in the Silmarillion. However, I don't remember him and certainly don't remember his family tree. Any help would be wonderful.

Nibs
12-12-2002, 05:45 PM
A stated by http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8611/tolk_1.htm , the line of Malach is as follows:

Malach
Magor
Hathol
Hador
Galdor
Hurin

And Hurin's battle cry was "Aure Entuluva", which means "Day shall come again!"

Didn't take but a minute to find. And it helps that this part of the Silmarillion is my favorite. But it didn't help that, on my first try, I spelled "Tolkien" as "Tlokien". Google fixed it for me.

Nibs
12-12-2002, 05:46 PM
Or would that be Turin? Ah, me... but at least that helps, I suppose... you can double-check that part.

Helix
12-13-2002, 01:59 PM
Thank you much! That is very helpful... I had forgotton completely Turin's ancestry.

Falagar
12-13-2002, 02:22 PM
Nope, it's Hurin who cries :)

Nibs
12-13-2002, 03:42 PM
What I meant was, would Turin or Hurin be the great-great-great-great-grandson, though I knew that was indeed Hurin's battle-cry.

Lefty Scaevola
12-13-2002, 04:54 PM
Hurin (Brian Reynolds) has his own web site at:

http://www.Dor-lomin.com/

(note, he is NOT the Brian Reynolds of civ2 & SMAC fame)

He has a civ2 senario there for Beleriand from Dagor Bragolach to the Niarneth.

ArwenEvenstar
12-14-2002, 01:59 PM
my signature I think has it (the last one)

Falagar
12-14-2002, 03:57 PM
Wasn't that Fingolfins cry when Turgon came forth from Gondolin?
Hurins cry was "Auta i lomë!" (I think)

azalea
12-14-2002, 10:24 PM
I think this belongs in the Silmarillion forum, so I'm moving it there.

Ñólendil
12-15-2002, 07:38 PM
Falagar, not Fingolfin (who had been killed by Morgoth), but his son Fingon. You are close with Húrin's cry, only it is "Aute".

Falagar
12-17-2002, 10:13 AM
It's pretty confusing because they all start at Fin (Fingolfin, Fingon, Finarfin, Finwë, Finrod, etc) :D

*checks Silm.*
Actually we were all wrong :D
Hurin's battlecry was "Aurë entuluva!", while the cry of Fingon (;)) was "Utùlie'n aurë! Ayia Eldalie ar AtaniatÃ*ri, utùlien Aurë!" and those who heard him's cry was "Auta i lòmë!"

Ñólendil
12-19-2002, 01:23 AM
Eh. ... Must have last word ... hmm ... oh, yes! Your accent marks are going the wrong way! Ha! It should be "ú", and "á", and "ó". Ha!

Falagar
12-19-2002, 11:18 AM
That's because I didn't know have to make the accentmark that way, untill now!
(Now I got the last word! ;))