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samwiselvr2008
12-08-2002, 07:39 PM
Can anyone tell me if Lord of the Rings was the second best seller of the 19th centry, or the 20th? Please, I need it for a project for school, the sooner I get it the sooner I'll be done, we are making a group newspaper on The Fellowship, and one of the things I have to do is write a one page revew of fellowship that would make someone else want to buy it. PLEASE HELP FAST!!!

Coney
12-08-2002, 07:52 PM
20th Sam..........19th century was the 1800's:)

samwiselvr2008
12-08-2002, 07:58 PM
Oh, thanks! :D I need to think more, I thought that the 19th was like in the 1900's! wow, were you just joking, are you sher?

Coney
12-08-2002, 08:11 PM
Yup I'm sure.........'tis definitly the 20th century Sam:) (trust me I wouldn't mess up your chance to bring another Tolkien fan to the world).

samwiselvr2008
12-08-2002, 08:18 PM
Thanks! I hope it will, thought unless we make the newspaper on sell to the school (wich the teacher may if she likes all of the articals) then it probaly wont. It is a good chance that it will be on sell to the school, if so I'll post all of the articals done by my group on the fellowship, if you wont.

Coney
12-08-2002, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by samwiselvr2008
Thanks! I hope it will, thought unless we make the newspaper on sell to the school (wich the teacher may if she likes all of the articals) then it probaly wont. It is a good chance that it will be on sell to the school, if so I'll post all of the articals done by my group on the fellowship, if you wont.

Cool idea Sam, the more Tolkien-Fellowship information the better IMO:)

Good luck with the newspaper.

samwiselvr2008
12-08-2002, 08:39 PM
Thanks! Can anyone please revew this article and tell me if any of the info is rong? I want to make it all correct, if possible!
Here it is:
Are you looking for an adventure?
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Have you ever tried The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring? If you are looking for a great fantasy story that has a sense of reality to it, adventure, history, and excitement, then maybe you should try The Fellowship of the Ring. The Fellowship of the Ring is the first of three books in the Lord of the Rings series written by J.R.R. Tolkien. The Lord of the Rings takes place in Middle Earth, which is known today as England. In The Fellowship of the Ring, a ring which was found by Bilbo Baggins in The Hobbit, (The Hobbit is not considered a part of the series, but comes before The Fellowship of the Ring) is found to be evil. Gandalf the wizard who researched the Ring, tests it and finds from the test that the Ring was made by Sauron, the Dark Lord, in the fires of Mount Doom. So much evil and power had been poured into the Ring before it was lost, that if Sauron were to get the Ring back, then Middle Earth would be destroyed and taken over by him. A hobbit named Frodo Baggins, who inherited the ring from Bilbo, along with a fellowship of five other races, making the total number in the fellowship nine, must work together on the perilous journey to Mordor, the only place where the Ring can be destroyed. Middle Earth was J.R.R. Tolkien’s life long work, and has so much history and other languages (made by Tolkien) in it, that it seems that everything in it really took place. So, if you are looking for a book that is so good that it was made into a movie, and was named the second best seller of the 20th century (next to The Bible), then pick up a copy of The Hobbit and The Fellowship of the Ring today!

Entlover
12-08-2002, 11:11 PM
Sam,
This is an excellent article. And everything is spelled right!
My only comment is about the line "Middle Earth, which is known today as England." Middle earth must have covered much more than what's now England, possibly extending as far as eastern Europe -- I'm not sure about the distances, but there's at least 1000 miles involved.
Good luck.

Elfhelm
12-09-2002, 12:07 PM
Nice work!

Break this long sentence into two sentences to make it easier to read:

In The Fellowship of the Ring, a ring which was found by Bilbo Baggins in The Hobbit, (The Hobbit is not considered a part of the series, but comes before The Fellowship of the Ring) is found to be evil.

In The Fellowship of the Ring, a ring which was found by Bilbo Baggins in The Hobbit, is found to be evil. The Hobbit is not considered a part of the series, but comes before The Fellowship of the Ring.

samwiselvr2008
12-09-2002, 09:58 PM
I'll go do that right know, should I change it to the contanit that england is on, whatever it's called, or just leave as is? That is what Tolkien said, if I remember right, so unless otherwise told, I'll leave it!

Blackboar
12-10-2002, 01:00 PM
That article was really good Sam! If I hadnt read it already about 20 times, I would read it!

Elfhelm
12-10-2002, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by samwiselvr2008
I'll go do that right know, should I change it to the contanit that england is on, whatever it's called, or just leave as is? That is what Tolkien said, if I remember right, so unless otherwise told, I'll leave it!

It's a little late for this answer, but the old English word, middangaerd, is what the Professor used for his world. It refers actually to the middle of the world. With a Saxon equivalent of heaven above and hell below. The Saxon people who used those words had no concept of a continent. So the Anglo-Saxon word for Middle Earth certainly does refer to modern-day Britain (England is just one of the 3 countries on that island).

But you are also right in that Tolkien stated in many different ways that he was writing a sort of mythology of England. In fact, Rivendell is a modification of the Cottage of Lost Tales, which some believe is physically based on a mansion in Warwick.

Eálá Earendel engla beorhtast
Ofer middangeard monnum sended

from an old English poem, Crist of Cynewulf

samwiselvr2008
12-10-2002, 08:38 PM
Okay, I'll change it to Britian. Anything else? Another friend told me that I should change three to triolagy. I'll do that to. After that, I better leave it as it is, besides, unless I change the font size, it wont fit on one page, and it can only be one page long. Smaller print just dosn't look as catchy, I have more to say, but what is the pount? If it dosn't make the reader read it, then what good is it?:confused:

Entlover
12-10-2002, 10:12 PM
You can replace "three" with trilogy, but why use a big word when a smaller one will do?

Elfhelm, I'm sure you're correct, but I'm in a quandary about how Middle Earth would fit into Britain. I always thought Tolkien's world is supposed to be set in a time when the island was still attached to the continent, so that one could walk from the Shire (ie England) to Mordor (maybe Poland or Romania? ) without crossing anything bigger than a river.

Starr Polish
12-10-2002, 11:10 PM
The actual planet that LOTR occured on was called Arda. Middle-Earth was just a continent, so to speak.

Gwaimir Windgem
12-11-2002, 10:43 AM
Actually, LotR is set on Earth, 7000 years ago.

Elfhelm
12-11-2002, 06:47 PM
I think the word "world" means a combination of physically reality and your ideas about it. I don't think a mythical past has to conform to historical past. I guess? *shrug*