How can that be??? (spoiler for Haldir fans!)

[Elf.Freak]

yes, me again. i bet i'm starting to bore you, so i'll make this short.

i read in a story onFanfiction.net (http://www.fanfiction.net) (well, it was the author arguing with Peter Jackson :rolleyes: ) that... (spoiler coming up, be warned!!!) ...Peter Jackson kills off Haldir! :eek: :eek: :eek: (i can't even remember who he is!).

I put this because on a quiz i turned out to be Haldir, that i was 'Destined' to be him, so i was quite upset when i found out that i was destined to be a dead-to-be character! :(

if you have any background info on Haldir then you can post it here! :)

[Heather Wooltoes]

Haldir is that snotty blond lorien elf with a five'o clock shadow that said they could shoot gimli in the dark. I hope he is killed off...he's an ass.

[Lanelf]

Hey! I liked Haldir! PJ just can't go killing off *named* elves! Kill Mr Random Elf instead.;)
And the "could have shot him in the dark" line - I thought it was funny!
Lanelf.

[Varda Oiolosseo]

Noooooooooo!! they can't kill Haldir off!! He's cool!!
It's not everyday you find a camp elf going "A dwarf breathes so loud that i could have shot him in the dark" you just need the wrist actions don't you!! :)

[Ërendil]

Yeah, he can't kill off Haldir!
I mean he is so funny, especially the "A dwarf breathes so loud we can shoot him in the dark" line, and I thought that he was really fussy in the extended version so they can't get rid of him!

[Varda Oiolosseo]

He totally rules and is one of my fave characters!!! Who can be the camp elf now?? ( Do not say Legolas coz he is not camp!!) I can imagine that thought being in Ërendil's mind right now!!

[Ërendil]

That is because, Varda, I told you it was and sent you a PM telling you that.

How accurate do you think the information is elf.freak? Can anyone else confirm it?

[Varda Oiolosseo]

I didn't read that till after i'd posted actually!!

Yaeh is this really really true!!!! I mean u can't kill Haldir off!! Who would have the heart to kill a poor little camp elf?

[Lanelf]

I have heard this rumor before, but that's all I thought it was - rumor.
Lanelf.

[Fred Baggins]

O who cares that Haldir dies. Perter Jackson's taking out the scouring of the Shire... so big deal!*starts to cry*

[Lizra]

It's sadder than sad when any elf dies! They are supposed to be immortal!

[Fred Baggins]

of course, I'm sorry, I just am mad about other things which should be in the movie.

[BeardofPants]

Yep, from what I've heard, Haldir is biting the dust in TT.

[Millane]

im with you MR F Baggins... screw haldir he was a ........... anyways i am glad he dies he was gay in the book and the movie... Elrohir and Elladin cane his backside anyday.. now if they take them two out therell be hell to pay

[samwise of the shire]

:( The fairy elf DIES?! Darn it all...I was looking foward to making fun of him but it's impolite to speak ill of the dead. :( *pouts*...DARN it ALL!
Pouting
Sam

[Renille]

Not fair...but oh well. Haldir's a minor character...they can't really expand him, so why not kill him? Okay...that sounded scarily barbaric. Icky..but I think that that must be what the filmwriters thought! I guess it's a bloodthirsty Hollywood-ized thing that *sigh* we'll have to deal with.

[Miranda]

Oh God I'll cry so much!!!!! Haldir makes me giggle so much- he was an unending source of amusements when we were on the tuesday afternoon, cheap day at cinema, LOTR trips for weeks- I saw it nineteen times in all at the cinema and never once didn't I laugh at Haldir and its great that he's got a bit more to say in the extended edition. If PJ kills him I'll cry and cry and cry and end up drowning the rows in front of me. I'll be as bad as I was with Gandalf in Moria and Boromir at Amon Hen (actually I do have a chuckle at that at times- for years Sean played Sharpe and got shot so many times he should have died but he was always back in the next episode. Then he does one LOTR flick and he's dead at the end of the first film- life's a b***er isn't it?) Tee hee Mx

[Varda Oiolosseo]

19 times WoW!!!! I thought 15 was a lot!!!!!!
You can't not laugh at Haldir can you??
He's great and say: DON'T KILL HALDIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Claenoic]

Haldir's enigmatic... and funny. I sure hope they don't kill him off, but I heard this months ago. And whatever I hear is usually true. Well, whatever I believe. So yes, I think Haldir will kick the bucket. Bye-bye, bumpy nose.:( :( :(

[BeardofPants]

Hmph. Wish they'd kill off that guy who played Celeborn. Crappy ex-shortland streeter. :mad:

[Millane]

KILL HIM GOOD!!!!... i can understand people being upset for Boromir and Theoden and the like but, in the movie, he was just such an arrogant f@#$... honestly 'the dwarf breathes so loudly i could have shot him in the dark' then Gimli launches and hacks him down with one fell stroke... celeborn tries to come to his rescue but Gimli decides he is girlish aswell and fells him to... while he is at it he grabs legolas' knife and tries to fix Elronds enlarged forhead...


sorry you had to read that folks...

[viggosbeard]

ive heard haldir dies a heroic death defending the hornburg - sad cause I warmed to him in the extended version, a lot more butch I thought.

[Elf.Freak]

reply to the last post: elves are immortal, but apparently they can die in battle, noooooooooooooooooooo! :( :( :(

[Heather Wooltoes]

Need more proof Haldir should end up orc chow? In the book it was Sam not Gimli the breathing comment was directed at. SAM!!! the one who looovessss elves! nasty, nasty lorien elves. hope a balrog toasts thier butts.

[Gerbil]

I'm just happy because I predicted this as soon as I read the notes on TTT soundtrack.

God, I am a genuis! (Don't reply God)

[Lanelf]

Elves that die in battle can come back, you know. Glorfindel did it.
*resists urge to reply as God to Gerbil* Anyway, Gerbil, where have you been? I haven't seen you for ages.
Lanelf.

[Nunc]

The real problem of course is not that Haldir is killed per se.

It is the problem that apparently (from all intents and purposes) PJ is sending a contingent from Lothlorien to help Rohan at the Hornburg.

I mean, WTF?

Of course in the book, the Galadhrim are too busy defending their own borders from marauding orcs to send off aid to elsewhere... :rolleyes:

What about the Grey Company? Are they going to include the Rangers of the North? And the March of the Dead?

[Entlover]

I'm just amazed to see that Haldir has fans!

It sounds like the Elves are going to the Hornburg battle, gotta stand up for ME like they did the first time. Kind of makes sense, once you grant the premise that this battle has become very important, rather than a local men-against-orcs melee.

I certainly hope we see the Paths of the Dead.

[Nunc]

I have a creeping suspicion that I am not going to like TTT... :(

[BeardofPants]

That makes two of us.

[Gerbil]

Originally posted by Entlover
[B]I'm just amazed to see that Haldir has fans!Despite me not being gay, I quite liked him ;)
He seemed to be a bit more ethereal in a noble way, as opposed to Legolas who was also quite good, but not as 'noble' (which makes sense given the background of the Lothlorien and Mirkwood Elves).
It sounds like the Elves are going to the Hornburg battle, gotta stand up for ME like they did the first time. Kind of makes sense, once you grant the premise that this battle has become very important, rather than a local men-against-orcs melee.Erm, not sure what book you've been reading, but in TTT book the battle of Helm's Deep is of the utmost importance - if Rohan had not won this battle (with a little help from your local friendly trees) then Minas Tirith would have fallen. Rohan managed to wipe out Saruman's forces. In fact, in a way, this was more unlooked for to me than winning at Minas Tirith, which had two sets of reinforcements only possible cos of the Helm's Deep victory.

As for the elves being there, they can piss off quite frankly. Not in the books, not necessary, etc. Who does Haldir replace? Can't remember who it is that dies at Helm's Deep of note.

Elves were extremely busy elsewhere, not simply looking on - PJ has no 'right' to make out the Elves this time are more brave and as such want to take part in the 'larger' events in the world.

I certainly hope we see the Paths of the Dead. Yes, I too am looking forward to PJ's actors in a sheet going 'ooooEEEEEooooooo'. At the end, you'll have the lead ghost saying:

'And I'd have got away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling hobbits'.

Roll on the big battles and special effects and stunning scenery.
Roll on me timing toilet breaks deliberately to miss the story butchering :)

[Khamûl]

Originally posted by Gerbil
Who does Haldir replace? Can't remember who it is that dies at Helm's Deep of note.If I recall correctly, Hama, the door warden of Theoden, dies at the Hornburg. If Haldir replaces anyone, my money's on Hama.

[Gerbil]

Originally posted by Khamûl
If I recall correctly, Hama, the door warden of Theoden, dies at the Hornburg. If Haldir replaces anyone, my money's on Hama. That's the one - for some reason I had the name Erkenbrand rolling through my head and couldn't dislodge it even though I knew it was wrong!

PS mmmmmmmmm new 32 inch widescreen with surround sound. Now I just need to get back my PS2 my brother 'borrowed' to play FotR on :)

[Varda Oiolosseo]

Of course Haldir has fans!!!!!! :D And plenty of them he rules!!!!!

[Andúril]

What is the point of using spoiler tags if everyone is going to talk about it aferwuhds?

[Gerbil]

You mean assuming any Haldir fans hadn't guessed what was going on from the thread title?
If they don't want the spoiler, they shouldn't be lurking in this thread :D

[Khadrane]

Why is everyone so obsessed with Haldir anyway? I think he's a pretty stupid minor little character. (And he's pretty darn ugly too.)

[Entlover]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gerbil
in TTT book the battle of Helm's Deep is of the utmost importance - if Rohan had not won this battle (with a little help from your local friendly trees) then Minas Tirith would have fallen. Rohan managed to wipe out Saruman's forces.

Too true. But in the book there're a lot of other things going on that seem equally important - Entmoot, attack on Orthanc, etc. The Helm's Deep battle was not that long. But in TT it will of course be the climax.
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Yes, I too am looking forward to PJ's actors in a sheet going 'ooooEEEEEooooooo'. At the end, you'll have the lead ghost saying:
'And I'd have got away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling hobbits'.

Unkind! PJ can do better than Scooby Doo. The ghosts should be very spooky - the Ringwraiths are pretty wraithlike. (But I've heard no rumors, nothing at all about ghosts.)

[Varda Oiolosseo]

I agree with the ugly bit!! ;)
But he is sooooooo funny and you just can't help but like him!!!!

[Draken]

I think it's in an obscure addendum that Christopher Tolkien overlooked, wherein JRR scribbled.

"And so it was that Haldir perished, surrounded by four score fallen orcs, all with their eyes scratched out. And with great sorrow did the elvenkind lift him from the field, even as his life blood dripped red on them. And they did all on that day agree that it was actually more a sort of crimson, which on mithril looked a sort of vibrant pink, you know, one that would go quite well with woodland green, maybe?"

;)

[Blackboar]

I love Haldir!

I'm just more upset about the Scouring of the Shire!!!:eek:

*SOB SOB*

[Lizra]

Elf spoiler....Spoiler!

I read that Elrond goes to Lothlorien, and has a disagreement with Galadriel and Celeborn. Now, I can't remember who takes what side, :confused: :rolleyes: I'm thinking Elrond wants to help the men, but G&C feel the alliance between elves and men is history, the elves "time" in Middle Earth is over. How Haldir ends up in battle we will see. Also, Legolas is angry that more elves don't come to the aid of 350 men at Helms deep fighting off 10,000 Urak hai and others. Thank goodness for the White Rider and Aragorn! :)

Please don't forget the spoiler policy!

[Erawyn]

oy! Why can't PJ actually stick to the story? I loved the first movie, but if he messes around with TTT as much as it sounds like he's going to. . . :mad:
sad cause I warmed to him in the extended version, a lot more butch I thought.
Totally agree, loved it when he was arguing with Aragorn.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Well, I'll be nice, and say that it won't break my heart.