Continuity

[bropous]

Well, this might combine a few threads, but here goes:

Will The Two Towers suffer any continuity problems due to the two versions of Fellowship of the Ring?

One point is lembas: Will Merry and Pippin suddenly introduce this in the theatrical release of TTT, or will the lembas only be mentioned in the inevitable The Two Towers Extended Edition?

Also, do you folks think that perhaps Jackson will be giving us some "alternate endings" on the Return of the King Extended Edition, including a Scouring of the Shire?

I am fascinated by the possibilities of the next two films, and even more intrigued by the possibilities that the Extended Editions can explore.

[Not included in FotR Extended Edition thread due to questions re: Upcoming extended editions of TTT and RotK.]

All I can say at this point is that Peter Jackson is forgiven in many instances for taking creative license with the books. I can just imagine what lies in store for us all over the next two years (til RotK Extended Edition is released).

[Shadowfax]

I really hope that lembas is somehow introduced in the theatrical version, and not just left till the Extended edition, although it would probably flow better if that did happen. I love lembas it's so cool, and kinda a crucial part of the story. How else would they all live through all that happens to them?

[Elfhelm]

I am sure Samwise will comment on it as the trudge through the swamp. He'll get tired of it eventually and he'll want to stew a rabbit, which he calls a "coney".

[IronParrot]

Even in ROTK Extended, I highly doubt there will be the Scouring of the Shire. It isn't clearly in line with the continuity established by either of the two editions, and furthermore, they didn't film it before they tore down the Hobbiton sets. (Except for the bit seen in the Mirror of Galadriel)

Tolkien left many clues throughout LOTR regarding the condition of the Shire, and none of these are insofar present...

[bropous]

Admittedly, O Ferrous One, it was simply blind hope.....

[Elfhelm]

I am willing to have that blind hope, considering that the S-Bs have made their appearance at last!!!

[bropous]

I, too, was surprised, pleasantly, by the arrival of the Sackville-Bagginses.

[Firekitten2006]

I *loved* how they had them come in! It was just like the book! (ok i just saw it last nite, and I borrowed it from a friend. :))

[Coney]

Originally posted by bropous
I, too, was surprised, pleasantly, by the arrival of the Sackville-Bagginses.

Me also. Wasn't the actess who played Lobelia just perfect?........that was a look that could pickle walnuts at 100 paces:D (but where was her umberella? lol )

[BeardofPants]

I dunno, it came off a bit too contrived. The only new addition that really sat well with me was the gift giving scene. Gimli was incredibly cute in that. The "new" beginning seems a bit muddled.

[Lelondul]

Agreed with the above posts regarding The Scouring. As much as I'd love to see it too, PJ and crew have been adamant about filming only parts of the books that truly (in thier minds) drove the story regarding the journey of the ring. The Scouring, while being a crucial part of LotR's brilliance, happens after the destruction of the ring, thus I imagine it's a no-go.

If they didn't included Bombadil, I doubt Scouring will see any screen time.

Intruiging idea about potential conflicts w/extd edition extras though - hadn't thought of that! I think that besides Lembas, most of the added stuff was pretty safe in terms of affecting future plot lines or character exchanges.

[IronParrot]

I think it's going to turn out in a way that it's essentially a nine-hour movie, with an eleven-hour extended edition. And it should make sense both ways.

[bropous]

Well, then I guess The Scouring will remain an "inside joke" for thsoe who have actually persevered through all three sections of "The Book".

Oh well, we'll just have to wait for that early-twenty-third century virtual reality LotR for a good visualization of the Scouring, lol!

[Sween]

in truth im not even sure that we will see them marching on the black gate. Seriously though i have the higest hope that this will all fit together perfectally seeing as basically its been shot as one movie (in my opinion the most revolutinary part of the films).

They are gonna be going for the big finish and when is the higest point of the book? I think the battle of plenor is much more fun than the black gate and the suspence would not be there in the film as in the book because of the way the book are structred.

as for a lot of the issues like lembras im sure they could comment on it at some point in the upcomming movies something like 'thank eru for this lembras or ild be slimmer that gollum'. As for everyones favorie bug bear merry and pippin swords im sure they will either refer to them someone going 'holly crap these are blade of the north these can hurt the old witch king hint hint'.

The scourging of the shire just would not work in a film the rings destroyed the main part of the storys over in a film you would get the uninlightened going 'well that an hour or so longer than it should of been'

[bropous]

It's either "I Am The Walrus" or "Piggy in the Middle".....

Do a poo-poo!

[IronParrot]

"in truth im not even sure that we will see them marching on the black gate. Seriously though i have the higest hope that this will all fit together perfectally seeing as basically its been shot as one movie (in my opinion the most revolutinary part of the films)."
I really don't get your reasoning here.

The Battle of the Morannon happens as Frodo and Sam are scaling Mount Doom and approaching the Cracks. I'd say that intercutting these would in fact add to the suspense at the climax... otherwise, timing-wise, what's at stake?

[Nibs]

Originally posted by IronParrot
I'd say that intercutting these would in fact add to the suspense at the climax... otherwise, timing-wise, what's at stake?
Not much more than where they ended with Fellowship. That is, the majority of the audience's timing... "Great! I want to know what happens, but I'd rather wait a year and see the movie than read the... book... if that's what they're still called."