Silmarillion Discussion Chapters Assignements

[Maedhros]

The Chapters are:
Ainulindalë (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6057): Maedhros
Valaquenta (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6291) : RÃ*an. Date: December 2, 2002
1. Of the Beginning of Days (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6567): Artanis. Date: December 24, 2002
2. Of Aulë and Yavanna (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6912): Eärniel. Date: January 14, 2003
3. Of the coming of the Elves and the Captivity of Melkor (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7291): Artanis. Date: February 7, 2003
4. Of Thingol and Melian (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7565): Elanor Gamgee. Date: February 28, 2003
5. Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalië (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7904): re-assigned. azalea.. Date: March 21, 2003
6. Of Fëanor and the Unchaining of Melkor (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8122): Earniel. Date: April 11, 2003
7. Of the Silmarils and the Unrest of the Noldor (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8350) : casseopeia. Date: May 2, 2003
8. Of the Darkening of Valinor (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8516): re-assigned, Attalus. Date: May 24, 2003
9. Of the Flight of the Noldor (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8684): Diamond of Long Cleave. Date: June 15, 2003
10. Of the Sindar (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8825): Elanor Gamgee. Date: July 7, 2003
11. Of the Sun and Moon and the Hiding of Valinor (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8966): re-assigned. Maedhros. Date: July 28, 2003
12. Of Men (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9098): reassigned. Fat Middle/ Date: August 19, 2003
13. Of the Return of the Noldor (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9182): re-assigned: azalea. Date: September 10, 2003.
14. Of Beleriand and its Realms (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9495) : re-assigned, Maedhros. Date: October 18, 2003
15. Of the Noldor in Beleriand (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9432): Attalus. Date: October 24, 2003
16. Of Maeglin (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9572): azalea. Date: November 14, 2003
17. Of the Coming of Men into the West (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9750): re-assigned, Iluvatar. Date: December 6, 2003
18. Of the Ruin of Beleriand and the Fall of Fingolfin (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9866): Lefty Scaevola. Date: December 28, 2003
19. Of Beren and Lúthien (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10052): re-assigned. Maedhros. Date: January 19, 2004
20. Of the Fifth Battle: Nirnaeth Arnoediad (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10285) : Lefty Scaevola. Date: February 10, 2004
21. Of Túrin Turambar (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10449): re-assignment, Beor, March 3, 2004
22. Of the Ruin of Doriath (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10579): Finrod Felagund. Date: March 25, 2004
23. Of Tuor and the Fall of Gondolin (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10850): Maedhros. Date: April 16, 2004
24. Of the Voyage of Eärendil and the War of Wrath (http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10930): Elvet. Date: May 8, 2004
AKALLABÊTH: Wayfarer. Date:May 30, 2004
OF THE RINGS OF POWER AND THE THIRD AGE: Wayfarer. Date: June 21, 2004


Usually chapter discussion last between 2 through 3 weeks to give anyone the opportunity to participate.
Remember, the person who does the intro of a chapter must:
1. Post the Additional Readings regarding that Chapter that are found in HOME.
2. Try to find pics that would help enlighten and broaden the discussion. Ex: maps would be a great addition to the thread in general, pictures depicting landscapes, battles, etc.

[Maedhros]

The Aditional readings of the Ainulindalë are:

From Book of Lost Tales I: The Music of the Ainur.
From the Lost Road and Other Writtings: Ainulindalë.
From Morgoth's Ring: Part I Ainulindalë.

[Ñólendil]

There are extremely important Ainulindale writings found in Myths Transformed, don't forget.

[Maedhros]

Yes, I missed that Ñóledil. Myths Transformed II. Thanks.
Now I want to make a clarification regarding the posting of the additional readings per chapter. You don't need to necesarily give the readings if you don't have the books available to you. I'm will help anyone who was trouble finding them, and there are people like Ñóledil who would be willing to help, as he has done already.:)
The important thing is to have people willing to do the intros on the chapters, so that we can have more ideas and point of views that would be lost without the participation of more members.
The purpose of using HOME in this discussion is to make it broader and more interesting to everyone.

[Artanis]

Are we supposed to volunteer here? I could do ch. 3, at least.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Yep, this is the place where you volunteer. Three? Wow!:)

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Yep, this is the place where you volunteer. Three? Wow!:) Am I reading you right? I meant chapter number 3, "Of the Coming of the Elves"..., not 3 chapters, thank you! :)

But I suppose I could do 3 chapters if not enough people volunteer, because I think this idea is far too good to be turned down.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Artanis
Am I reading you right? I meant chapter number 3, "Of the Coming of the Elves"..., not 3 chapters, thank you! :)

But I suppose I could do 3 chapters if not enough people volunteer, because I think this idea is far too good to be turned down. Ok Artanis Chapter 3. You caught my manipulation:p Happy to have you participate.:)

[Ñólendil]

A few nights ago, I wasted valuable homework time for this doomed project (and I mean that in the nicest way). The Beren & Lúthien texts:

1 -- History of Middle-earth Volume II: The Book of Lost Tales 2, Chapter 1: "The Tale of Tinúviel"

2 -- History of Middle-earth Volume IV: The Shaping of Middle-earth VII: "The Earliest Annals of Beleriand"

3 -- History of Middle-earth Volume IV: The Shaping of Middle-earth VII: "The Earliest Annals of Beleriand"

4 -- History of Middle-earth Volume V: The Lost Road and Other Writings, Part Two - III: "The Later Annals of Beleriand", - VI: "Quenta Silmarillion" - 12-15 "Of Beren and Tinúviel"

5 - History of Middle-earth Volume XI: The Silmarillion Part Two - The War of the Jewels, Part One - "The Grey Annals", Part Two - "The Last Chapters", Part Three - V "The Tale of Years"

6- The Silmarillion - Quenta Silmarillion, XIX "Of Beren and Lúthien", XX "Of the Fifth Battle: NÃ*rnaeth Arnoediad"

[Maedhros]

Thanks Ñóledil, but I think that you might have missed:
From Home 3: The Lays of Beleriand: The Lay of Leithian.

[Ñólendil]

The best of all! Thank you. I thought it odd: my paper had seven items, and my post six; I thought I had simply skipped a number.

1 -- History of Middle-earth Volume II: The Book of Lost Tales 2,
Chapter 1: "The Tale of Tinúviel"

2 -- History of Middle-earth Volume III: The Lays of Beleriand, III The Lay of Leithian, IV "The Lay of Leithian Recommenced"

3 -- History of Middle-earth Volume IV: The Shaping of Middle-earth VII: "The Earliest Annals of Beleriand"

4 -- History of Middle-earth Volume IV: The Shaping of Middle-earth VII: "The Earliest Annals of Beleriand"

5 -- History of Middle-earth Volume V: The Lost Road and Other Writings, Part Two - III: "The Later Annals of Beleriand", - VI: "Quenta Silmarillion" - 12-15 "Of Beren and Tinúviel"

6 - History of Middle-earth Volume XI: The Silmarillion Part Two - The War of the Jewels, Part One - "The Grey Annals", Part Two - "The Last Chapters", Part Three - V "The Tale of Years"

7- The Silmarillion - Quenta Silmarillion, XIX "Of Beren and Lúthien", XX "Of the Fifth Battle: NÃ*rnaeth Arnoediad"

[Wayfarer]

I'd love to help out with some readings. and contribute to the discussion.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Wayfarer
I'd love to help out with some readings. and contribute to the discussion. That would be great Wayfarer. :)

[Cirdan]

I'm in. Assign whatever you need to me. I have the BoLT 1 & 2 and Lays of Beleriand. I'll be picking up PoME next.

[Elvet]

I would like to do Chapter 24 'Of the Voyage of Earendil and the War of Wrath'

[Sister Golden Hair]

Excellent!:)

[Cirdan]

I would like to do...

23. Of Tuor and the Fall of Gondolin: Maedhros.

[Sister Golden Hair]

It's yours Cirdan. Thanks for the participation.:)

[Lefty Scaevola]

Perhaps for me? #20 the battle of unumbered tears, which brings tears even to this ancient Roman.

"Aure entuluva!"

[Sister Golden Hair]

Very good Lefty. I will take chapter 17: Of The Coming Of Men Into The West, and chapter 19: Of Beren and Luthien.

Anyone else that has volunteered and has not chosen a chapter should do so please. The discussion of the Ainulindale will be unstuck on November 28th and allowed to move down to make room for Valaquenta which will be the next discussion, and is unassigned as of now. Any takers?

[Lefty Scaevola]

18 and 20 are very closely related, and much of the dicussion on and speculation on strgtey and heroic warfareoverlaps. I quess I should take both the major battles. Since much of the material will be usefull to both chapter, Rather than starting a near threa for #20, we may want to revive the #18 thread when starting the #20 discussion.

[Sister Golden Hair]

As of right now, these are the chapters that are taken:

Valaquenta- Rian
Chapter 3- Artanis
Chapter 4- Elanor Gamgee
Chapter 10- Elanor Gamgee
Chapter17- SGH
Chapter 18- Lefty Scaevola
Chapter 19- SGH
Chapter 20- Lefty Scaevola
Chapter 23- Maedhros
Chapter 24- Elvet

All other chapters are available.

[Elvet]

Don't forget me - Chapter 24:)

[Rían]

OK, I'll take Valaquenta to keep things moving, but I only have BoLT 2 and Morgoth's Ring (in addition to Hobbit, LoTR and Sil, of course!), so I'll need some help :) Oh, I also have "letters", which I love to quote at great length :D. Do you have it yet, SGH?

Oh, also Unfinished Tales.

Maedhros, could you edit your first post on the thread to show people's names for the chapters they have? Or can SGH, with her mighty admin powers, do this?

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Elvet
Don't forget me - Chapter 24:) :rolleyes: What a muddlehead I am Elvet. I don't know how I missed you, but you'll be up there in about 30 seconds.

[Maedhros]

I have updated the Chapter assignements in the first post of the thread. I will finish the calendar and post it too.
Note: I had already chosen Chapter 23 when I posted it, sorry Cirdan.

[Elanor Gamgee]

Sister,
Thanks for updating the assignments and putting me in. Let's see if Thingol is the greatest jerk in Middle-earth ;)

[Morgan]

Originally posted by Elanor Gamgee
Sister,
Thanks for updating the assignments and putting me in. Let's see if Thingol is the greatest jerk in Middle-earth ;)

Elanor,
I couldn't resisit poking my head in here. I see you STILL have it in for Elwë! :cool: :p

Anyway, it's nice to have my rusty self up on a board with you again! ;)

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Morgan
Elanor,
I couldn't resisit poking my head in here. I see you STILL have it in for Elwë! :cool: :p

Anyway, it's nice to have my rusty self up on a board with you again! ;) Morgan, is that you?:D Welcome to Entmoot. You are very welcome to join our little project if you wish. We could use your scholarly input.:)

Elanor, welcome to the project, and nice to see your back.:)

[Elanor Gamgee]

Sister, thanks for welcome! I hope you won't regret it :D
Morgan, being at a forum with you is joy indeed :)
As for Elwe, the least I can say is that with Melian being unable to leave Aman (embodied or not), and quite low competition from Humans in this world I feel quite safe. Happen what may, my soft spot for Sindar does not diminish ;)

[Morgan]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Morgan, is that you? Welcome to Entmoot. You are very welcome to join our little project if you wish. We could use your scholarly input.

Sister,
Yes, for better or for worse it's me! :D
I would love to help with your little project. Speak, friend of Finrod and tell me that which must be done! :)


Originally posted by Elanor Gamgee

Morgan, being at a forum with you is joy indeed :)
As for Elwe, the least I can say is that with Melian being unable to leave Aman (embodied or not), and quite low competition from Humans in this world I feel quite safe. Happen what may, my soft spot for Sindar does not diminish ;)

Don't be so sure my dear Hobbit, I believe Elwë still has a fairly significant support crew residing in Middle earth. :cool:
BTW, does that soft spot of yours happen to frequent hay stacks?! :p

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Morgan
Sister,
Yes, for better or for worse it's me! :D
I would love to help with your little project. Speak, friend of Finrod and tell me that which must be done! :)




Wonderful! All you have to do is choose one or more of the available chapters from the Silmarillion, research it along with any other texts you may have that relate to the subject of that chapter. When the time comes, you will post the intro to the discussion of that chapter, and I will stick it to the top of the main forum page. Discussion of each chapter will last approximately 3 weeks.

You can go to the main forum page and read the threads that are stuck, for further info.

Welcome aboard.
:)

[Renille]

Hello! Could I do one? Could I do Turin Turambar (21)? Please? Thank you. (This looks really interesting;I'll be looking forward to the beginning!)

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Renille
Hello! Could I do one? Could I do Turin Turambar (21)? Please? Thank you. (This looks really interesting;I'll be looking forward to the beginning!) You sure can do one Renille, and chapter 21 is yours.

The beginning has begun. We are finishing up the Ainulindale, and Rian will introduce Valaquenta on Friday.

Welcome to the project.:)

[Morgan]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Wonderful! All you have to do is choose one or more of the available chapters from the Silmarillion, research it along with any other texts you may have that relate to the subject of that chapter. When the time comes, you will post the intro to the discussion of that chapter, and I will stick it to the top of the main forum page. Discussion of each chapter will last approximately 3 weeks.

You can go to the main forum page and read the threads that are stuck, for further info.

Welcome aboard.
:)

Thanks Sister!
I was also wondering why I suddenly have the title Hobbit under my appellation? I certainly am not one! It's Elven blood through and through for me! So, does this mean that I get to choose a new title? ;)

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Morgan
Thanks Sister!
I was also wondering why I suddenly have the title Hobbit under my appellation? I certainly am not one! It's Elven blood through and through for me! So, does this mean that I get to choose a new title? ;) From the frequently asked questions:

This text is called a title. The standard titles have Middle-earth themes and change based on how many posts you have. The titles do not have any practical function, though. Here are the titles:

Sapling: 0-2 posts
Hobbit: 3-49 posts
Enting: 50-99 posts
Elven Warrior: 100-499 posts
Elf Lord: 500+ posts

The default titles for moderators and administrators are "Huorn" and "Ent," respectively. Staff members and certain users may have their own custom titles. In some situations, the title "Smelly Orc" is given to spammers.

Once you reach 500 posts Morgan, you may choose a custom title.

[Elanor Gamgee]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
From the frequently asked questions:
<skip>
Once you reach 500 posts Morgan, you may choose a custom title.

Something to look forward to, indeed! Though I think I would prefer to remain Hobbit, whatever the number of my posts ;)
BTW, Sister, your own title is impressive, as well as the number of posts :p

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Elanor Gamgee
Something to look forward to, indeed! Though I think I would prefer to remain Hobbit, whatever the number of my posts ;)
BTW, Sister, your own title is impressive, as well as the number of posts :p The number of posts I have is a ficticous amount. It was done to prevent members from spamming to achieve a higher count. If you wish your title to be Hobbit, then after you reach 500 posts, I can put it back to Hobbit. Btw, how do you like my signature?

[Elanor Gamgee]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
The number of posts I have is a ficticous amount. It was done to prevent members from spamming to achieve a higher count. If you wish your title to be Hobbit, then after you reach 500 posts, I can put it back to Hobbit. Btw, how do you like my signature?
Re: signature - I do like it. BTW, I would hardly expect anything... err... less Finrod-oriented ;)
BTW, how do you like mine? I have just changed it.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Elanor Gamgee
Re: signature - I do like it. BTW, I would hardly expect anything... err... less Finrod-oriented ;)
BTW, how do you like mine? I have just changed it. Very nice.:)

[Maedhros]

I can't believe that Chapter 6 is not taken.

[Artanis]

I'm doing Chapter 1 "Of the beginning of days", if no one else will.

Can someone please volunteer for Chapter 2 "Of Aule and Yavanna"? Then I hope this project will go on at least some weeks more.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to put up dates for the chapter discussions. One reason that I don't volunteer for more chapters right now is that I don't know when the chapters will be due.

[Earniel]

Originally posted by Artanis
Can someone please volunteer for Chapter 2 "Of Aule and Yavanna"? Then I hope this project will go on at least some weeks more.

I will, unless somebody else wants it. But dates would nice too, that way I can make sure I get it ready in time.

[Sister Golden Hair]

That will be great guys. I can work out the due dates and will post them in a sticky.

[BeardofPants]

I might do of the Sun and the Moon and the hiding of Valinor, if nobody takes it.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
I might do of the Sun and the Moon and the hiding of Valinor, if nobody takes it. That would be great BoP. That one is due July 28th, so there is plenty of time. I won't add your name to the list until you give me a definate answer.

[Dunadan]

I'll do one if you like. I'm not bothered which, as long as it's not before xmas!

cheers

d.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Dunadan
I'll do one if you like. I'm not bothered which, as long as it's not before xmas!

cheers

d. Ok Dunadan. Go take a look at the first post in this thread, and pick what's available. The due dates are listed in a seperate thread, so have a look at that one too, and let me know which one you would like. I eventually will get around to posting the due dates in the first post of this thread so that I can eliminate the other sticky. It was really just temporary.

[Dunadan]

I'd quite like to have a go at Chapter 6, as it's central to everything else (though with some trepidation, for the same reason).

I note that the rules state that you have to have History of Middle Earth, which I don't. Can I ask why? Perhaps I'm missing something..

cheers

d.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Dunadan
I'd quite like to have a go at Chapter 6, as it's central to everything else (though with some trepidation, for the same reason).

I note that the rules state that you have to have History of Middle Earth, which I don't. Can I ask why? Perhaps I'm missing something..

cheers

d. It is not a requirement to have the HoMe series, and anyone who does not is welcome to participate and others such as Maedhros will add the extra research material, so you don't have to be conerned with that. You have the most important book of all I'd say. Maedhros just thought it would be nice to have as much as we could have, like the HoMe books and maps and pics if possible which won't be for me when the time comes to do my chapters. It is just about doing what you can in making your chapter as interesting as you can, and participating, so don't worry.

I will add your name and due date to the list in this thread. Thanks for taking part.:)

[Dunadan]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I will add your name and due date to the list in this thread. Thanks for taking part.:)
Grand. Looking forward to it. Now I've got some reading to do to catch up on the discussion so far...

[azalea]

I'll take chapter 16. Since it's such a long time befire it's "due," I'll have long finished the book and hopefully will have read a lot of HoME! In any case, I have ample time to prepare! I can't believe no one has taken ch. 4!:)

[Maedhros]

Excellent, I see that the discussion is going well. I think that the idea of giving people the opportunity to do the intros of the chapters and setting the pace of the discussion is great. It makes it a more evolving discussion and everyone will feel in it.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by azalea
I'll take chapter 16. Since it's such a long time befire it's "due," I'll have long finished the book and hopefully will have read a lot of HoME! In any case, I have ample time to prepare! I can't believe no one has taken ch. 4!:) Welcome to the project azalea. I have added your name to the list.:)

[Wayfarer]

Put me down for the AKALLABÊTH and OF THE RINGS OF POWER

Those are more my areas of specialty.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Excellent Wayfarer. Consider it done.:)

[Vortûriel]

Hi, this may be considered a little ambitious for my first posting but I would like to take chapter 11 (I am lying as I would really like to take chapter 19 but am concerned that I wouldn't do it justice and it is already been assigned anyway!). I have loved reading the threads and find the discussions fascinating. I thought I was knowlegeable on the subject of Tolkien but having been hanging around the Entmoot for a few days I have decided to re read Sil (and possibly LOTR again - just bought the set for my other half in the hope of encouraging a similar obsession in him so he is no longer bored to tears with my ramblings on the subject). Just got BOLT1 and 2 for crimbo along with the complete guide to Middle Earth and the book of maps so I should be able to contribute far more effectivly by the time chapter 11 comes up for discussion! You may find me a little quiet until I have finished some serious reading though! Keep up the good work and keep an eye out for my signature, developing something really profound at the moment :confused: ha ha.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Welcome to Entmoot Vortûriel, and welcome to the Silmarillion project. I will run over and post your name to the list of volunteers. Hope you enjoy our little community.
:)

[cassiopeia]

I'm happy to do any chapter available. I have a copy of The Sil and can get copies of the relevent HoME books.

[Sister Golden Hair]

That's great cassiopeia. Go have a look at the list. There are still quite a few chapters available. Pick one and let me know, and I'll put you up on the list.:)

[Attalus]

Iwanna help. What are we doing? :confused:

[Sister Golden Hair]

Pick one of the available chapters from the list in the first post in this thread. Let me know which chapter and I will put you name by it in the list. Then you will research your chapter and post it's introduction when your chapter date is due. I will stick it to the top of the main forum page, and the forum will spend about three weeks discussing that chapter.:)

[Attalus]

I'd like to do Chapter 15, "Of the Noldor in Beleriand." if that is still avaiable. One of my faves. ;)

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Attalus
I'd like to do Chapter 15, "Of the Noldor in Beleriand." if that is still avaiable. One of my faves. ;) It's all yours. Remember, to post all otherbooks and chapters that relate to you chapter if you have the HoMe series handy. If not, that's ok too. I have added you to the list.:)

[Attalus]

;) I shall go to work, ASAP. ;)

[Sister Golden Hair]

You have plenty of time. Your due date is October 24, 2003.:)

[zavron]

Can I do Chapter.8 The Darkening Of Valinor.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by zavron
Can I do Chapter.8 The Darkening Of Valinor. It's yours zavron. I'll add you to the list.

[Blackboar]

Please can I do "Of the flight of the Noldor"?

Just out of interest, how long does it have to be?

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Blackboar
Please can I do "Of the flight of the Noldor"?

Just out of interest, how long does it have to be? What do you mean, how long does it have to be? You research the chapter, when the time comes you post your intro to the chapter. If you have any of the HoMe then you post them as info where it can be found. If you can post maps or pics is a plus. If not, that's fine too.:)

[Blackboar]

Which HoME book has anything about the Return of the Noldor?
I don't own one them but I can easily rent one out from the libary:rolleyes:

Thanks! I'll do my best on it but I have got till September!;) :p

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Blackboar
Which HoME book has anything about the Return of the Noldor?
I don't own one them but I can easily rent one out from the libary:rolleyes:

Thanks! I'll do my best on it but I have got till September!;) :p Your best source in the HoMe for info on the Return of the Noldor, I would say would be in the last three volumes. Volume 10 and 11 are the Later Quenta Silmarillion, and volume 12 is the Peoples of Middle-earth.

[Blackboar]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Your best source in the HoMe for info on the Return of the Noldor, I would say would be in the last three volumes. Volume 10 and 11 are the Later Quenta Silmarillion, and volume 12 is the Peoples of Middle-earth.

Thanks SGH I'll will rent all of those books out

:D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Blackboar
Thanks SGH I'll will rent all of those books out

:D There may be others, but those are the ones that I am most familiar with.

[Diamond of Long Cleeve]

Does that mean you are short of someone to do chapter 9? I will do it if you need someone.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Diamond of Long Cleeve
Does that mean you are short of someone to do chapter 9? I will do it if you need someone. I've added you to the list. Your due date is: June 15, 2003.:)

[Dolenloteiel]

Ok can I do Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalie?

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Dolenloteiel
Ok can I do Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalie? Very good Dolenloteiel. Your date is March 21, 2003.

[Inderjit Sanghera]

Can I do 'Of Beleriand and it's realms' please?

[Inderjit Sanghera]

I'd also like to do 'Of Men' since that is the only one free.

[Sister Golden Hair]

I'll add you to the list for two chapters.:)

[Inderjit Sanghera]

Thanks! :)

[Sister Golden Hair]

Now that all the chapters have been assigned with names and dates on the first post of this thread, I will unstick the thread that listed dates only.

Thanks everyone for your participation.:)

[Ruinel]

Maedros,
What is "HOME"?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Howdy, Luthien!

just seeing what this does

happy are those who live a life learning what they thought they knew

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Ruinel
Maedros,
What is "HOME"?

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Howdy, Luthien!

just seeing what this does
HoMe stands for the Histories of Middle-earth series, which consists of 12 volumes.

Welcome to the Forums Ruinel:)

[Ruinel]

Thanks for clarifying HoME to me. And your friendly welcome.

I have not ordered any of these books. I have the Sil, Unfinished Tales of Num & ME, (the Hobbit, of course) and the 3 volume set of LotR. I have also read Vol 1 & 2 of the Book of Lost Tales. Would you recommend these 12 books (Histories of Middle Earth series)? Will I find new information that was left out of the others? Will it enhance my knowlege of Tolkien's works?

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Ruinel
Thanks for clarifying HoME to me. And your friendly welcome.

I have not ordered any of these books. I have the Sil, Unfinished Tales of Num & ME, (the Hobbit, of course) and the 3 volume set of LotR. I have also read Vol 1 & 2 of the Book of Lost Tales. Would you recommend these 12 books (Histories of Middle Earth series)? Will I find new information that was left out of the others? Will it enhance my knowlege of Tolkien's works? Well, you all ready have the first two volumes which is BoLts. The HoMe series is a must for any devoted Tolkien fan. You will find a great deal of information on Tolkien's world, its developement, and learn the changes that took place as Tolkien progressed in his life. They are loaded with notes and commentaries by Christopher, along with the corrections he made to mistakes that were in the Silmarillion. I have found Morgoth's Ring, volume 10 to be the most enjoyable so far. There are also some stories in the HoMe that you won't find anywhere else. A great series of books worth the money.:)

[Inderjit Sanghera]

Originally posted by Ruinel
Thanks for clarifying HoME to me. And your friendly welcome.

I have not ordered any of these books. I have the Sil, Unfinished Tales of Num & ME, (the Hobbit, of course) and the 3 volume set of LotR. I have also read Vol 1 & 2 of the Book of Lost Tales. Would you recommend these 12 books (Histories of Middle Earth series)? Will I find new information that was left out of the others? Will it enhance my knowlege of Tolkien's works?

BoLT (1-2) Early Mythologies, and basis for the Quenta Silmarillion. You could call itTolkien's soon (ish) abandoned legendarium for England. Cottage of last play and Fall of Gondolin stand out.

HoME 3-Lays-Poems on Luthein and Hurins and his family,m I beleive. Never read it.

HoME 4-5 Tolkien's early Silmarilllion work. Some great maps of early Arda in HoME 4 and some Etymolgogies in HoME 5.

HoME 6-9 Early draftings on LoTR. Only read 6, and it shows how significant the improvments in Tolkien's masterpiece have been. Great read.

HoME 10-11. The Silmarillion, as far as Tolkien wrote it. Great philopsopical essays, in form of 'Athrabeth Firnod ah Andreth' and 'Myths Transformed', with the 'Annals of Valinor and 'Grey Annals' thrown in.

HoME 12- Absolutley brilliant 'Shibboleth of Feanor' and 'Tal-Elmar', with some work on the appendicies of LoTR thrown in.

HoME 13-An appendix of names, I believe. Recently released.

My personal faves. are the last three.

Yes, you will GREATLY inhance your knowledge of Tolkien's work, and they are a interesting read. (If your obsessive, that is.)

[Ruinel]

Yes, you will GREATLY inhance your knowledge of Tolkien's work, and they are a interesting read. (If your obsessive, that is.)

I don't know if I am "obsessive". If you could say that I feel that reading Tolkien's works has made an impression me. That he created a world that I sincerely wished was real and that I could live in (I'd most definitely have taken Elrond's choice over Elros'). That I don't feel like I will ever be the same since I first read my first Tolkien book. That his books could be heroin and I am addicted. Hmmm, is that obsessive?

I will look into these books you recommended.
Thanks.

[Inderjit Sanghera]

Originally posted by Ruinel
I don't know if I am "obsessive". If you could say that I feel that reading Tolkien's works has made an impression me. That he created a world that I sincerely wished was real and that I could live in (I'd most definitely have taken Elrond's choice over Elros'). That I don't feel like I will ever be the same since I first read my first Tolkien book. That his books could be heroin and I am addicted. Hmmm, is that obsessive?

I will look into these books you recommended.
Thanks.

It sounds like you are catching the bug....;) :D

I too wish it was real. But hey-you never know.

[Ruinel]

Inderjit Sanghera,
I have had this "bug" for ages upon ages. I am happy that PJ made the movies based upon the tales. More people have this "bug" and I can share my enthusiasm for the works.

[Fimbrethil]

Are there any more chapters? I'd like one if that's possible.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Fimbrethil
Are there any more chapters? I'd like one if that's possible. Aw, right now they are all taken, but you may get an opportunity at some point. We just re-assigned chapter five because the person that it was originally assigned to apparently hasn't been on the board for some time, and failed to post his/her intro. I am sure that this possibly, and probably will happen again. In a project like this that lasts for as long as this one is scheduled to last, I am sure that not all who have requested a chapter are going to be able to hold to the commitment.

[Dúnedain]

Any chance I can sneak in and steal 23. Of Tuor and the Fall of Gondolin? :D

If so I'd like to incorporate the Unfinished Tales version (longer and better) into it :D

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Dúnedain
Any chance I can sneak in and steal 23. Of Tuor and the Fall of Gondolin? :D

If so I'd like to incorporate the Unfinished Tales version (longer and better) into it :D As of now, chapter 23 is assigned to Maedhros. We have had to do some re-assignments within the project though. I am pretty sure that Maedhros will do that chapter when the time comes, since it is his project.

If you aren't picky, and would like to do a chapter, the chapter of Beren and Luthien is available. One of the most important if not the most important chapter in the book.:)

[Maedhros]

As of now, chapter 23 is assigned to Maedhros. We have had to do some re-assignments within the project though. I am pretty sure that Maedhros will do that chapter when the time comes, since it is his project.
I would never say that it is my project. I just came up with an idea. I like to think that it is a forum project. I have been unable to participate in some of the chapters discussions because of my increasing work related functions. This is a project for the people who participate and the ones who actually do the research for the intros in the chapters.

Yes I will. I have not only incorporated the part Of Tuor and his coming to Gondolin, but the Tale of the Fall of Gondolin, into a single cohesive narrative. I think that it reads good, it is still in the process of revision of course.
There is also included the Alliterative version of the Lay of Eärendel and the Horns of Ylmir in there too.
Although I'm not due to make the chapter of the Ruin of Doriath, I have also begun creating a more true version of it, than the one in the Published Silmarillion. I have given my draft to Artanis and Inder to see what do they think.

[Fat middle]

:cool: I look forward to read both :cool:

[azalea]

I just wanted to bring it to the attention of the group that Inderjit Sanghera hasn't been around lately that I've seen, and his ch. was to be posted today. Do you think that if tomorrow comes and goes w/out his post, it should be reassigned? I know a couple of people had asked to do a ch. in the reassignment thread (Sween and someone else).

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by azalea
I just wanted to bring it to the attention of the group that Inderjit Sanghera hasn't been around lately that I've seen, and his ch. was to be posted today. Do you think that if tomorrow comes and goes w/out his post, it should be reassigned? I know a couple of people had asked to do a ch. in the re-assignment thread (Sween and someone else). Yes, I think come tomorrow it should be reassigned. The project is so long, that we can't wait too very long with late intros, so If Inderjit doesn't post between now and, say noon EST, this chapter will be available for re-assignment..

[Lefty Scaevola]

Chapter 18 to be posted this afternoon or early evening (Dec 28, CST) unless I hear differently from Sister Golden Hair.

[Beor]

sorry its a little late, but I should have Ch 21 posted within the next day or two. I hope to post it on the 5th, but I may take to the 6th, unfortuantely. I have been somewhat busy. Hopefully tomorrow, though, around nine o'clock PM, Iraq time (two hours ahed of Germany time).

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Beor
sorry its a little late, but I should have Ch 21 posted within the next day or two. I hope to post it on the 5th, but I may take to the 6th, unfortuantely. I have been somewhat busy. Hopefully tomorrow, though, around nine o'clock PM, Iraq time (two hours ahed of Germany time). No problem.:) I will also add your name to the list on the first page as a re-assignment.

[Rían]

SGH - a friend of mine is reading the Sil for the first time, and I just emailed her the link to Entmoot and the Sil project - and I just noticed that the first chapter, Ainulindalë, is missing. Is it just my settings, or is it missing? Could you please check - thanks! :)

[Artanis]

It isn't missing, it's just a little way up the page.

[Fat middle]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
SGH - a friend of mine is reading the Sil for the first time, and I just emailed her the link to Entmoot and the Sil project - and I just noticed that the first chapter, Ainulindalë, is missing. Is it just my settings, or is it missing? Could you please check - thanks! :)
It is there, in the Sil. Project subforum.

Anyway, here is the link:

http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?threadid=6057

[Rían]

whoops, I see it now :o - thanks!

[Finrod Felagund]

Hey guys, I'm gonna have to ask for a day of Grace for the Doriath discussion, I've just been soooooooo busy, but it will be up by this time tomorrow for sure! My humblest of apologies!

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Finrod Felagund
Hey guys, I'm gonna have to ask for a day of Grace for the Doriath discussion, I've just been soooooooo busy, but it will be up by this time tomorrow for sure! My humblest of apologies! Okey dokey. Take your time.:)

[Maedhros]

Boy, do I have a surprise for this chapter for all of you. I have already talked with SGH and Artanis about my plan, and I hope that there would be an addenda that can be used for the surprise I have in store for this chapter.

[Wayfarer]

Originally posted by Valandil
Uh... you're not gonna do "Akallabeth" and all the rest, are you? Originally postd by Artanis
Yes, we are. The two remaining chapters are assigned to Wayfarer. I hope he's still around.

Still a round? Well. I'm certainly not a square, now am I?

];-)

[Artanis]

Originally posted by Wayfarer
Still a round? Well. I'm certainly not a square, now am I?

];-) Well if you are, we'll have to cut your edges, now haven't we? :p

[Wayfarer]

Nyah. :p

Oy... a combination of weariness, dial-up, and a shared computer might result in some delays in my posting... and my memory is fuzzy as to what was originally the formula for these discussions (was it that long ago). So I might be a wee bit on the slow side getting Akallabêth posted.
And it will probably be long. I'm very verbose (which has made the going slower). ;)

But it's on it's way.

[Wayfarer]

There. Finally got it posted.

I wasn't entirely satisfied with everything I had to say in the discussion - I may have been overly critical of the Valar. But the text is pretty straightforward - mostly what I found myself questioning was they why of the events in it.

In other news, I let my little brother (age 11) borrow my copy of the Silmarillion. He got all the way to page 2. I'm so proud. ;)

[Maedhros]

Wayfarer, I was wondering if you had a date when you think you will be able to post the intro in the last chapter of the Sil.
Your last intro was very very good.:D

[Wayfarer]

Meep!

It seems I let it slip my mind. I'll have it by this weekend, if that's okay with everyone.

[Wayfarer]

Okay, it's done... Boy that was a long chapter. Anyway, Enjoy. :)

[Sister Golden Hair]

Thank you much Wayfarer. And that ends the project. Kind of sad really.:(

[Maedhros]

Thank you much Wayfarer. And that ends the project. Kind of sad really.
I completely disagree with this statement. Just because the chapter assignements are over, doesn't mean that the project is over. The project will be over when individual people stop posting in it, like so many have done.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Maedhros
I completely disagree with this statement. Just because the chapter assignements are over, doesn't mean that the project is over. The project will be over when individual people stop posting in it, like so many have done. Well, disagree. I didn't mean it the way you took it. I'm talking about the assignements are complete and there are no more intros to look forward to with this book. Okay?

[Maedhros]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Well, disagree. I didn't mean it the way you took it. I'm talking about the assignements are complete and there are no more intros to look forward to with this book. Okay?
Don't worry, I will do something that will make you happy in the following two weeks. I won't disagree with you again.

[Maedhros]

As it seems that there will be no more posts in the project discussions, I would like to thank all of the persons that have been involved in this.
At a later time, I will post what happened behind the scenes to make this project a reality, the middle of the project and how it ended.