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Aeryn
10-23-2002, 09:28 PM
Well, the title pretty much asks the question. I mean I saw the movie dune...is that what your talkin' about? *feels like an oblivious, out of date...person*

IronParrot
10-23-2002, 11:29 PM
The film was based on a novel by Frank Herbert that spawned a lot of sequels. And I mean a lot.

Not that I've read them.

BeardofPants
10-24-2002, 01:26 AM
The sequels are well worth reading once you get past messiah, IP.

Dune is the best thing ever, and you're a heathen for never having heard of it, Aeryn. :p

Treebeard's apprentice
10-25-2002, 12:47 PM
I am also a Dune virgin. Could someone give a brief outline of the plot, please?

Aeryn
10-25-2002, 04:08 PM
Yeah, a plot for the VIRGINS!....wait....that didn't sound right!
I meant the DUNE VIRGINS! ;)

BeardofPants
10-25-2002, 04:27 PM
This Hugo and Nebula Award winner tells the sweeping tale of a desert planet called Arrakis, the focus of an intricate power struggle in a byzantine interstellar empire. Arrakis is the sole source of Melange, the "spice of spices." Melange is necessary for interstellar travel and grants psychic powers and longevity, so whoever controls it wields great influence.

The troubles begin when stewardship of Arrakis is transferred by the Emperor from the Harkonnen Noble House to House Atreides. The Harkonnens don't want to give up their privilege, though, and through sabotage and treachery they cast young Duke Paul Atreides out into the planet's harsh environment to die. There he falls in with the Fremen, a tribe of desert dwellers who become the basis of the army with which he will reclaim what's rightfully his. Paul Atreides, though, is far more than just a usurped duke. He might be the end product of a very long-term genetic experiment designed to breed a super human; he might be a messiah. His struggle is at the center of a nexus of powerful people and events, and the repercussions will be felt throughout the Imperium.

Dune is one of the most famous science fiction novels ever written, and deservedly so. The setting is elaborate and ornate, the plot labyrinthine, the adventures exciting. Five sequels follow. --Brooks Peck

Ms. Undomial
11-06-2002, 10:29 PM
You didn't know about Dune? that is like saying "Who is Tolstoy?". sorry, that really didn't make very much sense.... Dune is a really good book once you get passed the first 100 pages or so.

Aeryn- Empty your mailbox!

Aeryn
11-06-2002, 10:33 PM
says you!

cassiopeia
11-06-2002, 11:30 PM
Dune sounds good, BoP. I have heard of it, but never read it. I am a big sci-fi fan and love AC Clarke and Asimov, but for some reason have never read dune. I will put it on the growing list of books I must read.:rolleyes:

BeardofPants
11-07-2002, 01:14 AM
I can not recommend it high enough Cass. My BF finished last night - after months of nagging - and he now wants to read all the sequels; this from a purely non-fiction reader!! :)

TwirlingString
11-09-2002, 07:26 PM
THe series is really deep, it makes you think. I saw the movie too, the version I saw was really good, if really long (3 two hour tapes!)

Draken
11-14-2002, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by BeardofPants
now wants to read all the sequels

Ah now THEY should dampen his enthusiasm! ;)

Silverstripe
11-15-2002, 02:03 AM
*bursts into tears at the thought of someone not even KNOWING what Dune is*;)

Just kidding. I save THAT for LotR and Tolkien.

trolls' bane
02-22-2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Ms. Undomial
You didn't know about Dune? that is like saying "Who is Tolstoy?". sorry, that really didn't make very much sense.... Dune is a really good book once you get passed the first 100 pages or so.

Aeryn- Empty your mailbox!

I sure agree with that. Almost stopped reading it after the first 30 pages, but luckily, I had a few unanswered questions so I kept reading.

luinilwen
02-22-2004, 08:47 PM
Dune is really worth reading. as you can probably gather from this thread, most people who read it add it to their favourites list. i haven't had a problem with the sequels i've read, although i've only read Dune Messiah and Children of Dune. eventually i'll get around to the next three, although i don't think i'll read the prequels written by Brian Herbert, nor the new trilogy currently being written.

i've seen both versions of the Dune movies, although I haven't seen Children of Dune yet. anyone seen it yet? is it good?

trolls' bane
02-22-2004, 10:17 PM
Well, now I'm quite intersted anyway. I finally got to Muad'Dib, too.

Nurvingiel
02-22-2004, 10:33 PM
I've just started this book, and I think it's great so far. I'm only 51 pages into it, so I can't really judge, but it does seem a bit too politicky to me. I really like Paul, he's such a neat, intelligent, and hard-working person. Arrakis also sounds exciting, and the Harkonnens are wonderful bad guys.

According to the front page of my copy of Dune, the sequels to Dune are:
Dune Messiah
Children of Dune
God Emperor of Dune

(My copy was only 65 cents at a Salvation Army thrift store! It's a bit beat up, but still - why let such a book go for such a small amount?)

BeardofPants
02-23-2004, 01:21 AM
Woohoo! New converts. :D ;)

Nurvingiel
02-23-2004, 01:25 AM
That's right! :) It's not hard to convert me to reading a new sci-fi book though, especially one so acclaimed as Dune.

brownjenkins
02-23-2004, 12:11 PM
i enjoyed the dune series a lot... it does tend to be somewhat heavy-handed at times though... more in a philosophical than tech-sci/fi way

if you enjoy the first 100 pages or so, you'll love the series

luinilwen
02-23-2004, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Nurvingiel
According to the front page of my copy of Dune, the sequels to Dune are:
Dune Messiah
Children of Dune
God Emperor of Dune


There's also Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse Dune by Frank Herbert.

Brian Herbert (his son) went on to cowrite (not sure of the name of the other author) the "Dune: House Trilogy" which is:
House Arteides
House Harkonnen
House Corinno

and currently doing a trilogy which so far is:
The Butlerian Jihad
The Machine Crusade
(i suppose these are also prequels, or rather "History of Dune", something like that.)

BeardofPants
02-23-2004, 07:42 PM
BJ, you did not enjoy it enough! :mad: It is *not* enjoyable, it is life-changing, amazing, astounding, magnificent... *smacks self with trout* Eh, sorry 'bout that. ;)

Nurvingiel
02-25-2004, 02:10 AM
They've hinted at a time where humans were enslaved by other humans who controlled powerful machines, it would be interesting to read a book about that.
I'm going to read a little Dune before bed. :D
Gnight.

BeardofPants
02-25-2004, 02:23 AM
They did - Butlerian Jihad. And it sucksass.

Nurvingiel
02-25-2004, 03:08 AM
Aw, too bad. Maybe I should stick with Frank Herbert originals. Or are some of the ones he wasn't the sole author of good?

brownjenkins
02-25-2004, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by BeardofPants
BJ, you did not enjoy it enough! :mad: It is *not* enjoyable, it is life-changing, amazing, astounding, magnificent... *smacks self with trout* Eh, sorry 'bout that. ;)

actually... i've been looking for something to pick up lately and may read it again... i only did once before, and it was quite a few years back (when i was about 14 i think)... maybe i'll catch some more of the fish-smackin' splendor ;)

trolls' bane
02-25-2004, 11:33 AM
Well, what page are you on anyway? You forgot to answer on What About Bob?.

BeardofPants
02-25-2004, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Aw, too bad. Maybe I should stick with Frank Herbert originals. Or are some of the ones he wasn't the sole author of good?

I haven't read any of the preludes, so I really wouldn't know. But from what I can gather, they're pretty bad - and inconsistent. I've only read Butlerian Jihad, and like you, I only did it because I was interested in the war that caused the anti-machine thing.

Falagar
02-26-2004, 08:07 AM
Dune better be good, 'cause now I've spent some of my hard-earned and scarse money on the first one, solely because of all your praise, BoP. :p

BeardofPants
02-26-2004, 03:08 PM
Well, YOU'D better like it, or I'll be over there to beat you to a bloody pulp with MY autographed Heretics of Dune. :p

Falagar
03-02-2004, 05:18 PM
BoP, help me out here; I'm wondering where to place my self-made Muad'Dib altar: in the middle of my room or in front of my bed. Or perhaps make an extra room where I can place it?

Am also struggling with the idea of wheather to make a mouse-doll and place it on the altar or buying a living mouse...

BeardofPants
03-02-2004, 07:47 PM
Well, the obvious place would be at the end of the bed, since that's the last place you see before you go to sleep, and the first thing you see when you wake up. However, if it's size (as proportional to how much you liked it) that you want to go for, then I'd recommend buying a mansion, and putting shrines every where. As for the mouse, I guess I'd recommend getting a real-live one, and gluing bigger ears on it or something. But you know, the problem with a living mouse is that you've got to give it the run of the place, and they leave pee-trails, so maybe you should consider just getting a mouse-doll. But then, if you were genuinely worshipping Paul, maybe you wouldn't mind the pee-trails? :confused: Or maybe you could compromise, and just pee on the doll, so it could smell like a real mouse....


;)



edit: Nice location. :D Perhaps you could just wait for the Lions of Kenya to pee on your doll? :p

Falagar
03-04-2004, 12:32 PM
How about getting a real mouse to pee on the doll? Or perhaps I'll just drop the whole mouse-thingy and buy a
maker (could live in the garden, I'll just need a few bags of sand).

I can ask him 'cause here comes the lion!


*is eaten*

trolls' bane
03-08-2004, 11:37 AM
I just finished it a few days ago. The ending was rather "flat" I should say.:D

Falagar
03-08-2004, 12:03 PM
Luckily there are sequels. ;)

Katie of the Golden Wood
03-08-2004, 04:46 PM
*Another ashamed novice wanders in*

Planning to go buy a copy, but though I love fantasy I've never really liked sci-fi...is it really hard core science fiction or is it more....allegory (is that the word??)

Katie

BeardofPants
03-08-2004, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by trolls' bane
I just finished it a few days ago. The ending was rather "flat" I should say.:D

FLAT??? When Paul marries Irulan instead of Chani? ????? How could you think that that is FLAT? :eek: GNRRRRRR.... *eyes Trolls Bane threatenly*

trolls' bane
03-08-2004, 10:41 PM
LOL:D! I don't think you get what I mean by "flat." What I mean by flat, it the way it ends: the last sentence makes it look like there's another page or more. It's like he didn't finish, but as my friend said, it's probably a lead up to a sequel. What is the next sequel, anyway?

Falagar
03-09-2004, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by trolls' bane
LOL:D! I don't think you get what I mean by "flat." What I mean by flat, it the way it ends: the last sentence makes it look like there's another page or more. It's like he didn't finish, but as my friend said, it's probably a lead up to a sequel. What is the next sequel, anyway?
I believe the word you're looking for is 'abrupt'. ;) And indeed, it did, I thought there was another chapter after the last one when I first read it (excepting the appendixes, of course).
Originally posted by BeardofPants
FLAT??? When Paul marries Irulan instead of Chani? ????? How could you think that that is FLAT? :eek: GNRRRRRR.... *eyes Trolls Bane threatenly*
I knew he would do that since the first time we "saw" her. She's the one that was quoted all the time. :p

Nurvingiel
03-12-2004, 04:16 PM
Paul doesn't marry Chani!!! They love each other! They have a child! What the @^%$#$%!? :mad: Why didn't you put that in spoilers!? I love Chani, and I'm not done the first book yet, so thanks a lot. :mad:
Oh well... now I'm more prepared for the heartbreak. Who's this Irulan chickie anyway? I know she's come into the story already... I'll just have to go read more.

Falagar
03-12-2004, 04:21 PM
I won't comment on that, since everything I say can and will be used against me in a court of law. Just read on. :)

BeardofPants
03-13-2004, 02:28 AM
Whoops, sorry Nurv. :o Ignore Trolls bane - the ending is really powerful. You get a real sense of how much bigger Paul is.... *zips mouth shut* Not saying another word. :D

Draken
03-16-2004, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by Falagar
Luckily there are sequels. ;)

Depends how you define 'luck', I suppose!

trolls' bane
03-16-2004, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by BeardofPants
Whoops, sorry Nurv. :o Ignore Trolls bane - the ending is really powerful. You get a real sense of how much bigger Paul is.... *zips mouth shut* Not saying another word. :D
I heard that ;). Hey, I never said that the ending was bad, it was just...incomplete.

Nurvingiel
03-16-2004, 07:34 PM
There's four sequels, suck it up! :D

I remember who Irulan is, she's the princess with the interesting quotes at the start of each chapter. Hm... that explains a lot...

I always like Irulan, because of her insightful quotes. But I love Chani. I hope her and her son are happy even if Paul ditches them. Maybe it's just as well. Paul has a hard road ahead of him. :(

BeardofPants
05-17-2004, 11:54 PM
Nurv, did you ever finish reading Dune?

Arathorn
05-20-2004, 04:55 AM
I've been at it with Machine Crusade for months now but it's been surprisingly slow going for me compared to the original 6 books. Must be since I only read it when I'm on the throne...

BeardofPants
05-20-2004, 05:43 AM
You're reading the second one? The first one wasn't useful for anything other than bog roll, small wonder you're reading this one on the throne. ;)

Arathorn
05-20-2004, 05:57 AM
Yeah, I'm a sucker for closure and I decided to finish the second one before the 3rd and last one comes out. Kust curious about the story. Brian sure ain't his Dad...

I'll go back to God Emperor one of these days. I miss Hwi Noree. ;)

Cirdan
06-06-2004, 09:41 AM
Hwi Noree... Now she could make me feel human again.

*releases some oxygen*:evil: :D

trolls' bane
07-24-2004, 03:02 PM
I finished reading Dune just recently, but I can hardly remember half of it. Memory-loss at twelve:o.

Jonathan
07-24-2004, 03:18 PM
After seeing how obsessed BoP is with Dune and getting a 15% discount on all books at my English book shop, I thought I'd give Dune a try:). And from what I've gathered from this thread, I should just start with the original Frank Herbert books and skip the Prelude to Dune and Legends of Dune, or at least save them till later. Right? Or do you think starting with the prequels is a good idea?

BeardofPants
07-24-2004, 03:29 PM
No, avoid the prequels like the plague. Ugh. :mad:

Hope you enjoy it as much as I have. :) (and if you don't, I may be forced to violence;))

trolls' bane
07-24-2004, 03:41 PM
And I hope you don't forget it as much as I have:rolleyes:.

Arathorn
07-24-2004, 08:13 PM
Follow BoP's and troll's bane's advice, Jonathan. They have good taste.

trolls' bane
07-24-2004, 08:42 PM
Follow BoP's and troll's bane's advice, Jonathan. They have good taste.
Wow. Thanks. No one has ever said I had good taste. At least not that I could remember... :confused:

BeardofPants
07-25-2004, 12:37 AM
Arathorn! *hugs*