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The Last Ranger
10-18-2002, 05:20 PM
where was Gondolin, what happened, and how come i never seen it talked about? please respond ASAP
Radagast The Brown
10-18-2002, 05:33 PM
THIS IS THE HOBBIT!!! GONDOLIN IS NOT IN THIS STORY!!!!!!!!! :mad:
nazgul prince
10-18-2002, 07:31 PM
But the fabled blades of gondolin are in the hobbit.It was a great elven city in the first age.It was located in beleriand which sunk under the sea at the end of the first age.Turgon the high king of the noldor( High Elves, Gnomes, Deep Elves) ruled there.And he weilded the mighty Glamdring.Elrond is a decendant of him.
Lanelf
10-18-2002, 10:58 PM
If you want to know more about Gondolin, you'll have to read the Silmarillion. There's a chapter or so about it there.
Lanelf.
Millane
10-19-2002, 07:52 AM
THIS IS THE HOBBIT!!! GONDOLIN IS NOT IN THIS STORY!!!!!!!!!
geez radagast get hyped up!!! hehehe
Radagast The Brown
10-19-2002, 10:41 AM
If you want to know more about Gondolin, you'll have to read the Silmarillion. There's a chapter or so about it there.
Lanelf.And in UT, the part on tour. and probably in HoMe too.
geez radagast get hyped up!!! heheheIt's really doesn't supposed to be here. It's suppose to be in ME.
Millane
10-19-2002, 11:05 AM
so it should Radagast but no need to lose your cool
Radagast The Brown
10-19-2002, 11:27 AM
I didn't. I accidently pressed Caps Lock.
The Lady of Ithilien
10-25-2002, 07:54 PM
I didn't. I accidently pressed Caps Lock. :D I LOVE the Internet!
The scene in The Hobbit where Elrond tells Gandalf and Thorin the history of the blades becomes even better after reading in other books that Elrond was himself closely descended from the King of Gondolin (Turgon). One likes to imagine that it was a more touching moment than Bilbo at that time could appreciate when Elrond handed that sword back to Gandalf.
Radagast The Brown
11-02-2002, 09:15 AM
originally posted by TLoI
:D I LOVE the Internet! Can I ask what's the conection between the fact that you love Internet and the quote?
The Lady of Ithilien
11-03-2002, 07:42 PM
Sure. I truly do love the Internet, where misunderstandings are sometimes very easily laid out for all to see, and so cleared up. That seemed to be a classic instance of it.
I hope my remark didn't seem personal or sarcastic, Radagast -- it wasn't meant that way at all. Perhaps I should have included the whole exchange. Sorry!
Radagast The Brown
11-04-2002, 07:18 AM
you don't have to be sorry. :) I didn't take it too hard, you know.
The Lady of Ithilien
11-04-2002, 10:25 AM
Glad to hear it! :D
Eothain
01-06-2003, 04:21 PM
It is not in the hobbit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
Lefty Scaevola
01-06-2003, 09:14 PM
It has a line or two in passing in the Hobbit. Its an ancient city during the first age duriing the Wars of the Jewels (Called Goblin wars in the Hobbit) against Morgoth. It was founded by Turgon, a price of the Noldorin exiles and people with Noldor and Sindar. It was located in a hidden valley cirlcular amists a mass of mountains which had once been a lake bed (It looks lkie and acient cladera) The a a of rocked in the center of the vally on which the city was built. It was likely the highest expresion of Elvish culture ever in Middle Earth. Morgoth captured it nearly 6500 years before the time of the Hobbit.
Shadowfax
01-08-2003, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Eothain
It is not in the hobbit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! Wasn't that scintillating fact previously established?
Faramir Took
01-10-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
THIS IS THE HOBBIT!!! GONDOLIN IS NOT IN THIS STORY!!!!!!!!! :mad:
your wrong - gondolin is mentioned several times in the hobbit. all the swords found in the trolls lair were said to be manufactured in gondolin, and two of those swords, as you know, go on to future greatness, and orc-head cleaving.
markedel
01-11-2003, 10:41 AM
But the real question is-since the Hobbit as not set in ME at first publishing, what was Gondolin, aside from a convinient placeholder name of course? Was it really "Gondolin" at first conception?
Radagast The Brown
01-11-2003, 10:43 AM
originally posted by Faramir Took
your wrong - gondolin is mentioned several times in the hobbit. all the swords found in the trolls lair were said to be manufactured in gondolin, and two of those swords, as you know, go on to future greatness, and orc-head cleaving. I know that, but Gondolin is about 6000 years before "the hobbit". If someone wants to ask about Gondolin it should be in the Sil or ME. That's all.
Artanis
01-11-2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by markedel
But the real question is-since the Hobbit as not set in ME at first publishing, what was Gondolin, aside from a convinient placeholder name of course? Was it really "Gondolin" at first conception? Gondolin was certainly already there. Tolkien wrote a story named "The Fall of Gondolin" in 1916-17. A revised (and unfinished) version of this story is given in Unfinished Tales under the name "Of Tuor and his coming to Gondolin."
Blackboar
01-11-2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
I didn't. I accidently pressed Caps Lock.
That cracked me up:D I thought Radagast was getting totally stressed out over it and I'm just like "Calm down!!" Then I saw that!:D :D :D
(Didn't you look at it before you posted it, or after you posted it?)
Radagast The Brown
01-11-2003, 03:22 PM
originayll posted by Blackboar
That cracked me up I thought Radagast was getting totally stressed out over it and I'm just like "Calm down!!" Then I saw that!
(Didn't you look at it before you posted it, or after you posted it?)Actualluy, no, I don't look (usually) at my post before I post it.
And, I wasn't stressed! I just tried to explain what happen. :rolleyes: Afterwards, I could've erase the post and write it again but since she already quoted me....
markedel
01-13-2003, 08:05 PM
Ah the joys of the internet LOL. Gotta love it.
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