Music of the LOTR Movie

[Nuraith TarLhailatar]

Hi, I am new and I have a few questions about the music of the movie.

- Does anyone now if there will come a soundtrack of the movie?
- And if there is going to be a soundtrack who will be on it?
- Will there be any music used in the movie cause it was an important and returning part in LOTR?
- Also if music will be used what kind of music will it be?

Personally, I think that if they are going to use music they could make it a blend of traditional Irish music, pop music and eastern music. Or use any of these three separately.

Well that's all for now.

Nuraith Tar-Lhailatar

[juntel]

Welcome to Entmoot!

(first time that i'm the first welcoming a first timer!)

[Fat middle]

Welcome to Entmoot :)

I think it´s sure they´ll have a soundtrack, but AFAIK the composer have not been already chosen.

Ian Mckellen has said something about songs in the films. There´ll be songs, but they won´t be as frequent as they are in the books. We all hope they shall pick the very central songs of the books. You can find a thread about songs somewhere in this forum.

My personal view about what sort of music will be the best is that they should choose a symphonic soundtrack though that may not be very "contextual". However, for the songs i will choose medieval music (sorry MM;) ) or folkloric-tavern music for the hobbits. But that´s only my opinion.

Pop music is a very good option in some films, as Princess Bride, but i´d wish some greater for LOTR.

[bmilder]

I wouldn't mind a traditional movie score, with a few vocal songs from the books put in.

[Darth Tater]

I'd like to here a John Williams meets Celtic music meets Medival (sp) flute/recorder music score (recorder music is actually quite beautifull when played by someone who knows how, not a hideous screeching sound like can be heard in classrooms across the country ;) )

[noldo]

What's Celtic music like?

Polish composer Wojciech Kilar (Bram Stoker's Dracula, The Ninth Gate) and James Horner (Braveheart, Titanic) are the leading candidates for the composer of the OST.

[Darth Tater]

I'll let someone else try to describe Celtic music. Not being musical myself I really don't know how to.

[Nuraith TarLhailatar]

I can explain what Celtic music is. Have you ever listened to Clannad or to music groups like The Corrs ect, well that is kind of what Celtic music sounds like and is. Most of the Celtic music originates from Ireland and is also still used and produced there. In Celtic music they use old traditional instruments like flutes, (thin) whistles, violins, a dobro (whatever that is, can't explain what it looks like.), a instrument called BodhrÃ*n which is very difficult to describe sort of like a hand drum or something in that way. They sometimes use guitars (acoustic) and piano's.

Earlier I mentioned the Irish group, The Corrs, well they would be perfect to appear on a soundtrack of LOTR. They have successfully blended Celtic music with modern pop music. You should really check out there music. Well I hope that this is enough information for people who don't know what Celtic music is.


Nuraith Tar-Lhailatar
The Dreamwalker

[IronParrot]

When referring to Celtic music (not related to LOTR though)... I need but three words.

Great Big Sea.

[Darth Tater]

The Corrs are great, I also love the Chieftains.

[trevkw]

Orchestral is the way to go for epic fantasy. I'd like to hear something halfway between the Braveheart soundtrack and something spacier, like Vangelis a la Blade Runner, or even Enya (but darker and creepier).

[noldo]

The Corrs rules! I don't care so much about the singing but otherwise it's great.

[arynetrek]

i say go with symphonic for the really big epic stuff & Enya or instrumental celtic for the lesser stuff. but the hobbits get their own kind of music, but i cannot describe theirs in words. BTW, has anyone heard the enya song "shepherd moons?" in my mind, that IS lorien.

if they did it right, pop music could be OK, but we have to keep Celine & Britney & their clones off the soundtrack!

<hiss>

aryne *

[anduin]

I love Enya, in fact, I "walked down the aisle" to Hope Has a Place at my wedding. :) Enya would be great for the soundtrack, and it wouldn't be the first time that she did a movie track.

[Griff Nizz]

I've heard that two reasonably popular Heavy Metal bands offered to compose music but were turned down. One is a band called Iced Earth, I believe they really did offer. The second is Megadeth but I'm not so sure about the truth of them offering to compose a song, either way they were turned down. Peter Jackons preferred the more dramatic orchestral sounds. Living in New Zealand helps me in hearing rumours, one of my friends spent two to three weeks working as an extra in the movie.

[Fat middle]

welcome to Entmoot Griff! :)

what role had your friend? elf, orc, man...?

[Griff Nizz]

He played many bit parts, he play one of Saruman's Orcs, can't think of their name at the moment, he played an elf and a Rohan Warrior. All really tiny parts, but he doesn't mind, neither would I. He got paid something like $250 US ($500 NZ) for a weeks' shooting, that's as well as $100 US spending money and all the alcohol he could drink pretty much. Plus he got to talk to Liv Tyler and Elijah Wood and all them. Not an opportunity I'd turn down.

[anduin]

DROOL!

[Griff Nizz]

I see that this really isn't about music anymore, heh heh, oh well.

[Fat middle]

nonono! i come to save the thread :)

a few days ago i read in a Spanish forum a very good idea for this topic: the music should use some leit motivs for the main themes/characters: hobbits theme, elves theme, Aragorn-Arwen love theme, Lidless Eye theme, etc. Okey?

what´s the original point in that theory?: those leit motivs should "be born" from the songs. Thus, the hobbits theme should be derived from The Road Goes Ever On; the elves theme from Elbereth, Gilthoniel; the love theme from the Lay of Luthien.

If they take that way, that i deem very probable, we can count with some of the main songs in the movies.

What other main themes do you all think should be included in the partiture?

[SkateSand]

Don't hurt me, but I think Hans Zimmer could handle this soundtrack. He'd be great with the battle scenes, and he is capable of the more ethereal stuff for the softer moods.

Laurie (cringing)

[Griff Nizz]

I think that the best music for the movie would have to be Orchestral, Celtic and also some metal type music, it just goes so well in fight scenes and action scenes in movies.

[bmilder]

Well, I really like Zimmer's Gladiator soundtrack, especially the battle music, so he could probably handle LotR.

[IronParrot]

I LOVED Hans Zimmer's Gladiator score. Something along those lines would be great for LOTR. However, that was really a one-in-a-million for him... The Lion King is his only other really great score... but if he can pull something off as great as what he did for Gladiator, that would be wonderful.

[Darth Tater]

I like Zimmer's stuff but like it's been said he is kinda risky.

[Darth Tater]

Though I love John William's work I used to think he was wrong for this movie. Well, tonight my opinion was changed. I was watching Evening at Pops and he was conducting. The program was mostly his own compositions.

"Notes on the Evening at Pops Selections by Steven Ledbetter

ANGELA'S ASHES
John Williams (b.1932)

When John Williams was creating the score for Alan Parker's screen adaptation of Frank McCourt's best-selling memoir, Angela's Ashes, he decided not to use traditional Irish or Celtic melodies as the basis of his composition; rather, he would let them serve as inspiration for his own original music. Although the finished product has Celtic influences, these are woven into an eloquent and sweeping score that captures the compelling and poignant beauty of the story."
From pbs.org

As beautifull as his Angela's Ashes score is it wasn't the best part. They played an excerpt from his score for "Far and Away", which has some incredible Celtic sounds in it. It reminded me how versatile a composer he is, and I now think Williams would be perfect for LOTR.

[arynetrek]

now that a few people have already mentioned this, i think i can bring this up without fearign for my life...

metallica, when they're being balladic, can sound VERY middle-earthy - esp. their obscure melodic stuff. "unforgiven II" always reminds me of aragorn & arwen. but metal just wouldn't work for them, as beautiful & sad a song as that is. right now i can't think of anything that would fit them.

aryne *

[lindil]

I think that liz fraser of the cocteau twins should be given singing duties for galadriel [and God forboid if they have arwen/xena break into anything other than a warcry[ although she could prob. handle it well.
As for the music proper I would see a combnination of braveheart and windham hii type music [thinking esp. of remedios by william ackerman and some of the violin and mandolin of anger marshall - and garden by ackerman and the chronos quart.

[etherealunicorn]

since no one else has so far, I will mention that on Enya's album Shepherd Moons, there is a song(well, actually, a piece of music) that is called Lothlorien. Has an unearthly sort of feel to it.

[Shanamir Duntak]

The one song that sounds really Middle-earthly from Metallica is Call of Cthulu (From Ride the lightning). Go get the Mp3 and close your eyes while listening to this.
I always imagine a combat between an almost froze-to-death-by-the-winter Dunedan and a huge troll. The combat is epic and the man dies with the troll at the end...

Well... I have a lot of imagination but, hey everybody, just do it, you won't regret :D

[Griff Nizz]

If you want a brilliant song for the LOTR movie, you would have to have Smack my bitch up by The Prodigy, perfect for a fight scene, heh heh

[Fat middle]

i've just heard a rumor about the music of the film: Howard Shore could be the composser. i regret i do not know what is the source of this rumor.

some of the scorings by Shore:
High Fidelty
Dogma
The Game
The Wonders
Big
Mrs. Doubtfire
Philadelphia
Seven
Ed Wood
The Silence of the Lambs

i think it´d be a good new if confimed.

[Wizard of the Secret Fire]

Hear you can find the rumor:

www.soundtrack.net/news/article/?id=127 (http://www.soundtrack.net/news/article/?id=127)

Parts of soundtracks:

'Se7en' movietunes.hollywood.com/...en,00.html (http://movietunes.hollywood.com/movietunes/soundtracks/soundclips/1,1355,seven,00.html)

'The Game'
movietunes.hollywood.com/...me,00.html (http://movietunes.hollywood.com/movietunes/soundtracks/soundclips/1,1355,game,00.html)

'Dogma'

movietunes.hollywood.com/...ma,00.html (http://movietunes.hollywood.com/movietunes/soundtracks/soundclips/1,1355,dogma,00.html)

'Cop Land'

movietunes.hollywood.com/...nd,00.html (http://movietunes.hollywood.com/movietunes/soundtracks/soundclips/1,1355,copland,00.html)



Arynetrek, have you heard Enya's Lothlórien?, also really like Lorien :)

[arynetrek]

i think the song i was talking about was "lothlorien" - i heard it most recently in mp3 form & for some bizarre reason it had a description-thing instead of a title as its title (if that makes sense). Call of Ktulu would make excellent fight-the-orcs music. and prodigy would be good if used properly - as in the battle at Helm's Deep.

aryne *

[Shanamir Duntak]

At least someone agrees with me for call of ktulu!

[Elrénia]

I think it's a shame they didn't put "The lay of Nimrodel" in the film. It's a lovely song.

[IronParrot]

Wow... old threads. Gotta love'em.

[Starr Polish]

THere's a link on TORN to here the some music from TTT: Forth Eorlingas and Riders of Rohan. Awesome stuff!

[Sylvee Estel]

What?? There's a link to the music?? I couldnt find it... I did find the track list and release date though.. December 10th. Gosh I am almost as excited about the soundtrack as I am about the movie!!!!