Post Your Episode II Reviews here **SPOILER WARNING**

[gdl96]

In order to keep things organized, please post all impressions and reviews in here, and feel free to post spoilers.

I see it in *checks watch* two hours and ten minutes. :D

[BeardofPants]

It's really, really good. Some of the dialogue is cheesey (never George's strong point), some of the plot devices are dubious, some of the acting is woeful, (but compared to Luke...), BUT, this is one kick arse movie. It more than makes up for it with some amazing CGI, and really awesomely choreographed fight scenes, and action sequences.

Like EP 1, not much happens in terms of plot development. It's more about political intrigue, than heroic action "blow up everything in sight" sequences. The heroes are less black and white, and the hero/bad guy divide is infiinitely more blurred than Eps 4 - 6. In fact, you can now see why George decided to go with the lack of a climactic ending in Ep 1; the whole series of the "new" star wars movies have definately moved away from big explosions, obvious ploys, and clear-cut good guys and bad guys. In Ep 2, there IS no big explosion at the end, like in eps 4-6; but rather it's more about setting up the stage for the big fall.... Confusion reigns supreme. You don't come out of the movie with a good feeling in your gut, but rather a nasty case of acid stomach! And as for any of the storyline being resolved, well... I came out knowing about as much as I did when I first walked in. The dark side has definately clouded my vision. The future, I see not...

Jar Jar makes more sense this time around, has less lines, and actually has a purpose. In fact, his role is so integral to the development of the Clone Wars, that you'll just have to be prepared to forgive him.

The love story is a but sucky, but I can look beyond that.

Overall? I rank this one better than ALL of the previous ones, with maybe the exception of ESB... maybe....

I'm off to see it again tonight, it kicks serious butt!

Final note: the closest comparison to any other movie of the current denotation, would be Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. (Looks like George is hailing back to his mythological roots....)

[Comic Book Guy]

Awesome, that was awesome.

It had pacing issues, and it was boring to watch the bad dialoge and romantic scenes, but besides that it was amazing.

I smiled when I saw Yoda teaching young Jedi, Jar Jar's role having a point to it, Boba Fett, the Death Star and Anakin's robotic arm.

The CG was great, especially the images of Clones getting prepared.

Oh, and Yoda was good as well.

[emplynx]

YODA! YOU'RE MY HERO!
I loved it! I think the romantic scenes were necessary to make more anger in Anakin. I did think young skywalker was very irritating throughout the movie though.
Jar Jar being one of the key players in the starting of the empire is kind of ironic though. :)

[gdl96]

Awsome, awsome, awsome.

Although this movie had a few flaws, (mainly the romance stuff, which was necessary, but could have been better) it was overall GREAT!!!!

Even Jar Jar wasn't bad. He seems to be okay in small doses. And his character has much more feeling, as he is being tricked into what he does.

Yoda rules. He unleashes the fury, and kicks a ss!

And Jango...too bad he met his fate at the end. But he seems to have passed on his ways to his son...

I have to go see it again to really give a solid review. I just walked out of the theater 30 minutes ago, and I need it all to settle.

2 years 364 days 2 hours 53 minutes 30 seconds...

[Ben]

Wow!

Admittedly, the first half dragged a bit, and I was starting to get worried. But then the big fight scene kicked in, and ... wow :p

[Arathorn]

I think the drama scenes were necessary. Otherwise, we wouldn't have Luke and Leia.... :p
<thought shift>
BoP, with regards to our discussion earlier, you're right about Owen Lars. I just saw the movie a 2nd time 16 hrs ago and he did say that they were stepbrothers. It explains why Owen's not just 10 yrs old.
<thought shift>
BTW, the audience went "OOOOOOHHHH!" when the Camino girl told the kid "Boba, where's your dad?"
<thought shift>
I'm thinking Boba eventually slices and dices Mace Windu in Episode III.
<thought shift>
Crouching Yoda, Hidden Jedi Master RULES!!!!
<thought shift>
And here's my favorite quote:
"Hmmmm...Lost a planet, Master Obi Wan has. How embarrassing. <snickers>How EMBARRASSING..."
-- Master Yoda

[olsonm]

Saw it. Loved it. Nuff said!:D

[Arathorn]

I'm gonna view it again in about an hour. I want to see those 3 Millenium Falcons I've read about elsewhere just as Padme and Anakin are about to 1st land in Naboo.

There's also supposed to be some TIE fighters and X-wings in the coruscant(sp?) city. Great them park ride, btw.

Yoda's facial expressions are so unforgettable!

[Dwarven Sen]

YODA is GOD

Strange execution

it is very embarrasing indeed to lose a planet

i swear I will see it again soon


Kill The Raiders

[Dwarven Sen]

Question
Why did Ani have a bicycle chain for a hand, when luke gets a real looking one?
I mean, they can clone but cant make a hand-looking mechanism?
Or was it just a quick fix while he returns Ami home?

Haha XK, you died.
(private thing, i doubt anyone has an understanding of it)

The nice ship got busted right in the beginning.

[Arathorn]

Originally posted by Dwarven Sen
Question
Why did Ani have a bicycle chain for a hand, when luke gets a real looking one?
I mean, they can clone but cant make a hand-looking mechanism?
Or was it just a quick fix while he returns Ami home?

Haha XK, you died.
(private thing, i doubt anyone has an understanding of it)

The nice ship got busted right in the beginning.

I think it's because they have yet to perfect the technology for making it look natural-looking.

BTW, Sen, isn't the name of that assassin sent by Jango Fett Sen?

Did anyone notice the parallel between what C3PO said to Anakin in Ep2 to what he said to Luke in Ep4? He told Luke that R2D2 says "he has a message for a certain Obi Wan Kenobi." while he told Anakin that "he has a message from an Obi Wan Kenobi..."

<Fake PM follows>
Sen, I couldn't reply to your pm since youe inbox is always full. You need to erase the sent messages as well. I have no ill feelings towards you but never could answer back because....umm...YOUR INBOX IS ALWAYS FULL! :D

I'm still confused, though with your pm before. :confused:
<Fake PM Ends>

[Wayfarer]

Why did Ani have a bicycle chain for a hand, when luke gets a real looking one?

It's a different technology, I think.

It seems to me that Anakin had basically a modified droid arm, while luke had an actual prosthetic.

Incidentally, we're near to being able to do this ourselves. Primate tests have succeeded in driving a robot arm with brain impulses.

[gdl96]

I liked 3PO's puns, but there was probably one too many. :P

"I'm besides myself"
"She sure looks like she's getting on top of things"
"What a drag"

[jerseydevil]

I really liked the 40's feel in the beginning of the movie. (I swear I lived in the 40's in a past life. :D) Plus the diner was cool. Both were like a an acknowledgement to what inspired George Lucas's Star Wars saga to begin with.

[Arathorn]

Anybody get the name of those giant fleas/ticks anakin was playing with near the falls with Padme?

[Eruviel Greenleaf]

Now that it's been a few hours and I've calmed down. . .a bit. . .not very much, but enough. . .

Wow!!! :D Of course, Yoda is. . .YODA!!! He rules!!!

Okay, real review now. . .
Loved the fight scenes, the last 45 minutes were well worth the ticket price, and the not-so-great stuff such as poorly written Romance scenes with creepy giant fleas.
The pacing could have used some help, and the dialogue, (but there were some great lines in there!!!) but besides that, and the boring (but necessary) romance scenes, I thought it was great :D

Okay, gotta see it about three more times. . .

[afro-elf]

is the mace windu jango fett fight any good?

[afro-elf]

who many jedi survive the final battle?

[Arathorn]

The Mace Windu / Jango Fett fight seemed short. Windu had some help from a beast (accidental); then when Mace was charging, Jango couldn't do anything since all his energy gun shots were easily parried by Mace's lightsabre and then he got beheaded.

I'm still not sure but I'm estimating around 12 to 15 when they were outnumbered in the middle of the arena plus 2 to 4 who got pushed in by the enemy. But they seemed to have had it pretty well covered in the beginning. There just were too many droids under Count Dookula's(pun intended) command.

[Faramir]

WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR STUPID GRIPES?! I DON'T! BEST MOVIE!
FLAWLESS! O.K., sorry. But it was great! The love scenes were fine! The movie was great! Did you know Dooku is Christopher Lee, a.k.a. Saruman? Rocked! Yoda is du master! He was AMAZING! I'll see it as many times as I can. Didn;t like the Moulin Rouge inspired nightclub though, only gripe.:rolleyes: It was the best! By the way, the girl bounty-hunter that got killed by Jango Fett's name is Zam Wessel. I don't care about your gripes because I loved it! YODA!!! ROCKS!!!

[Arathorn]

I saw it for the FOURTH TIME 4 hrs ago since I first viewed it 00:01 thursday morning. I still can't get enough of it. I might break my own 9-sittings record for FOTR!!:D

[emplynx]

Originally posted by Arathorn
I saw it for the FOURTH TIME 4 hrs ago since I first viewed it 00:01 thursday morning. I still can't get enough of it. I might break my own 9-sittings record for FOTR!!:D
*quivers in jealosy*

[Arathorn]

I think movies are a little cheap here. They're worth about the equivalent of 1.60 USD for premium seats and the THX cinemas allow you to get in for around 2.40 to 2.50 USD

[afro-elf]

Originally posted by Arathorn
I think movies are a little cheap here. They're worth about the equivalent of 1.60 USD for premium seats and the THX cinemas allow you to get in for around 2.40 to 2.50 USD


right i forgot that is one advantage to seeing it thailand for me. It will be dirt cheap

just hope its still playing when I get there

The Mace Windu / Jango Fett fight seemed short. Windu had some help from a beast (accidental); then when Mace was charging, Jango couldn't do anything since all his energy gun shots were easily parried by Mace's lightsabre and then he got beheaded.

couldn't jango use his jet pack to escape?

[olsonm]

It got damaged by the beast.

[afro-elf]

thanks

[azalea]

My review:
It was an excellent movie.

I happen to be a fan of romance as well as action, so I wasn't bothered by the romance. (Actually my husband looks like an older Hayden. Wish I looked like Natalie Portman!) Anyway, the romance was necessary -- they couldn't just make it a wham bam type thing, and they had to establish a relationship before they have the characters marry!

There was a lot of info to absorb and process very quickly, especially in a crowded theater with kids jumping around and creaky seats. I can't wait to rent it at home -- I like to stop and rewind, and have a front row seat without neck strain. So until then, maybe Arathorn can answer some of my questions since he's seen it 4 (?) times!

Count Dooku = Jedi ? they talked about on the Cloner planet? Who is Count Dooku? He is a sith now, he took Darth Maul's place? The apprentice of Darth Sidious aka the Emperor aka the Chancellor? Was Jango lying when he said he was hired by so and so (not the Jedi)? Who then really did order the army? Was it a secret Jedi plan, or was it the enemy's plan and the Jedi stole them? I was confused about that -- I'm sorry if this makes me sound clueless! Please explain!

Bottom line: A great movie with plenty of action, but you must pay very close attantion to catch some of the details!

Oh and R2D2 rules too! (I also forgot, was he always Padme's droid?)

[BeardofPants]

Count Dooku = Jedi ? they talked about on the Cloner planet? Who is Count Dooku? He is a sith now, he took Darth Maul's place? The apprentice of Darth Sidious aka the Emperor aka the Chancellor?

The implication is that he WAS a jedi on the council (Qui Gonn was his padawan, and he himself was Yoda's padawan. Interesting link going on there: Yoda-> Dooku -> Qui Gon -> Obi Wan -> Anakin -> Sidious...) Also, he is playing off both the separatists (trade federation etc) AND the senate/republic (clone army), under his master, Darth Sidious. The reason, we do not yet know.

Was Jango lying when he said he was hired by so and so (not the Jedi)? Who then really did order the army? Was it a secret Jedi plan, or was it the enemy's plan and the Jedi stole them?

We don't know just yet who okayed the clone army creation. As far as I am aware, it is that jedi who has been dead for almost 10 years (around the time of Phantom Menace.) In all probability it is part of Sidious' machinations. BUT we don't know.

[afro-elf]

The implication is that he WAS a jedi on the council (Qui Gonn was his padawan, and he himself was Yoda's padawan. Interesting link going on there: Yoda-> Dooku -> Qui Gon -> Obi Wan -> Anakin -> Sidious...)

COOL

makes me wanna rpg, to bad my gaming buddies back home are munchkins

which sucks for gaming SW and LOTR alas were art the mature serious gamers

i is there sometiming about dooku leaving the jedi 10 years before

that's the same time maul died

it keeps the master and servant ( only two)thing initiated by darth bane ages prior

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by afro-elf

i is there sometiming about dooku leaving the jedi 10 years before

that's the same time maul died

it keeps the master and servant ( only two)thing initiated by darth bane ages prior

I'm not sure. Dooku's cover is that he is a wealthy person who left the jedi in ages past, sorta thing. I kinda got the idea that he left way before that.

[azalea]

Thanks for the answers! I'm glad it's a "we don't know" type thing rather than a "I somehow missed it" thing!:)

Lucas is gonna have a lotta 'splainin' to do in Epi 3!

[afro-elf]

is it mentioned WHY ani couldn't marry padme

is it a problem of marriage or sex

[olsonm]

I think it had something to do with the fact that it might interfere with Anakin's duties as a Jedi.

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by afro-elf
is it mentioned WHY ani couldn't marry padme

is it a problem of marriage or sex

A jedi is not really allowed to love. To love her is to live a lie, so to speak. It's similar to being a monk. (and look where that got them: a sign of Jedi stagnation?)

[afro-elf]

Chistopher lee is an older man how did his fight scence come off

was he more kenjutsu or more shaolin or more in the middle

for those of you not famaliar with martial arts

the question could be phrased


was he like alec guiness

darth maul


or luke, qui gon, obi wan (TPM)

[BeardofPants]

Put it this way: he walloped both Obi Wan AND Anakin at the same time! (remember how "special" Anakin is.)

Yoda kicked his a$$ though.

And Dooku can do that lightening sparky thing.

[olsonm]

Well, for part of the scene they put Lee's face on a stunt double's body so he moves pretty good.

[Arathorn]

This is not very significant to the story but for Christopher Lee, it's funny how he plays a count once more.

Anyway, back to Count Dooku. it is not clear either, when he turns exactly. I also agree that it icould either be, Darth Sidius/Chancellor Palpatin, Count Dooku/Lord Tyrranus, Darth Maul, or even that dead Jedi Master Cipher Diaz (Zero Days?). The plot has indeed thickened due to Episode II.

[IronParrot]

I'm currently working on the World's Longest Review of Attack of the Clones. It won't be done in quite a while.

But for the time being, I'll repost a summary of a couple thoughts that I posted on another forum... by the way, I loved the movie.

Here's a quick summary of what I didn't like (given that I love the rest):

- The nightmare. The WORST part of the whole movie, one of the WORST parts in all Star Wars - and one that did not grow on me even after three viewings. The scene of the morning after does such a great job of conveying that Anakin had another nightmare about his mother that the shot before, bad enough already, was rendered useless. Totally dispensable, and totally unfair, given that we didn't get to see Natalie's nipple too.

- The love confession scene by the fireplace. It shows that Hayden, while an amazing physical actor in his expressions and actions, isn't top-notch in his delivery. And I wouldn't fault the dialogue - I thought it was good dialogue. And Natalie's reaction (backing away uncomfortably as he says, "The closer to you I am, the worse it gets") was a good nuance. And the scene does highlight how Anakin is controlled by his emotions, not the other way around. But it was still bordering on painful to sit through.

- The iris-in transition out of Anakin's Tusken massacre. The preceding scene was perhaps the most dramatically tense moment in the entire film - and it was cut off by a poor transition. A slow dissolve would have worked exceedingly well, particularly to emphasize that Yoda in the scene after was sensing the events at the same time.

- Jar Jar upon meeting Obi-Wan and Anakin. Worse than he ever was in TPM (you see, I didn't mind him in TPM).

- The only CG that consistently distracted me: Padme eating the pear. That looked downright fake - she obviously had nothing in her mouth after taking the bite. Besides that, I really had no problem with the CG in the movie, the many creatures included.

- "This party's over" and right after, "I don't think so." Okay, cool, but just too stereotypical melodramatic Samuel L. for my tastes. A friend of mine called him "Shaft Windu", though he took that positively... I didn't.

- Artoo's intrusion in the burial - the shift in tone was too abrupt.

- A good deal of how the score was edited. Listening to the soundtrack out of context, it was terrific, but in the film itself... two spots in particular stuck out: the reuse of the Gungan battle music in the Arena, and what the hell was Yoda's theme doing on the conveyor belt? The original stuff JW wrote - and it was great stuff - was largely underused. Although I praise how some certain moments, particularly action sequences, were left unscored - particularly the seismic charges sequence, and the fight with the three beasts in the arena.



Although I loved many things about the film, these were the ones that I will continue to treasure the most:

- The whole damn plot. Particularly Obi-Wan's side of the story.
- Dex's diner - a perfect scene. Just... perfect.
- The design of the Kaminoan and Geonosian cultures - the best concepts of "alien" cultures I have seen in Star Wars so far.
- The DEATH STAR. My favourite moment in the film.
- Anakin's reaction to Shmi's death. No dialogue, just the expression on his face, and swelling music to go along with the swelling pain and anger.
- The "I slaughtered them like animals" scene - the pinnacle of Hayden Christensen's performance, and along with the aforementioned death of his mother, the most emotionally convincing scene in the movie.
- The wedding at the end made me feel all tingly inside every single time I saw it. The entire ending of the film itself after the last line of dialogue is the best ending of all the episodes.
- The shot of Anakin and Padme entering the arena was reminiscent of Han descending into carbon freezing... also my favourite musical moment, with a cello-backed rendition of the love theme that reminded me of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
- And speaking of crouching tigers and hidden dragons, the Yoda-Dooku duel... more the duel of telekinetic powers than with lightsabers, actually, but the entire sequence was an instant classic, proving once and for all that the ability to destroy a planet really is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

And best of all, the Expanded Universe just got a trashing!

[afro-elf]

Shmi death seems a tad strange?

Did her husband think she was dead?

Why did the sand people keep her alive?

Isn't it odd she would die as soon as ani got there?

[BeardofPants]

Shmi's death was very poignant. It's one of the best scenes in the movie.

She had disappeared for over a month, before Anni turned up, so yes, hubby thought she was dead.

And yes, it WAS a plot device that she died pretty much immediately. BUT, maybe she has a little bit of the force in her or something, and that kept her alive 'til Anni showed up.

It was a $#@!ing brillilant scene though! It's my favourite part of the movie... that and the Yoda fight.

And who knows why the tuscan raiders kept her alive? :confused:

[Arathorn]

Mine ramblings:
Shmi could be a special clone that Sidius could have "placed" there to help Ani get over his first few steps towards the dark side. :rolleyes:

BTW, I just noticed that Jango said his recruiter was a Lord Tyrranus. I first thought he said Taranas. It was Dooku all along! What remains to be known is who is this Cipher Diaz who went to Kamino about 10 yrs prior to Ep. II.

[BeardofPants]

It was Dooku all along!

Hey... I missheard that! :rolleyes: What a surprise that is.... Geez.
Thanks for pointing it out, Arathorn. It makes a little more sense now...

What remains to be known is who is this Cipher Diaz who went to Kamino about 10 yrs prior to Ep. II.

At the same time as the machinations on Naboo...

[BeardofPants]

Interesting that we still haven't found out who Anakin's father is. I wonder if we're going to find out in Ep 3. It seems like a rather big gap to leave out. I was also wondering: could it be Sidious? heh heh. That would explain why Anakin went to the dark side so easily... <grin>

"Anakin, I am your father."
"Nooooooooooooooooooo.....!"

If I'm right, you saw it here first! :p

[gdl96]

IP:

First of all, looks like a nice review you have going, and I agree with a good number of your positives and negatives.

But what do you mean by the expanded universe just got a trashing?

Also, Jar Jar I thought was used much better here than in Episode I...he was actually important. And I agree with you especially on the scene where Anakin tell Padme on Tatooine about how he killed them...etc, and the scene with Anakin and Padme before they enter the arena. The Tatooine scene is where Darth Vader emerges for the first time, showing what Anakin is capable of, and giving a glimpse of what will come. And before they enter the arena was probably the best part of the whole romance plot...it worked, and it was a lot like the carbonite scene in ESB.

[Eruviel Greenleaf]

In the "I slaughtered them all" scene, which I really liked, I agree that it was one of the better scenes, etc. I would have done it slightly differently though. I would have had Anakin's voice, and expression, completely emotionless until he says. "I hate them!" or whatever that line was. . .must see again. . .but anyway, I thought it would have been more effective. But it was still good. :)

[Arathorn]

Of the romance sequences, the one I did not like was when Padme was still packing for Naboo (I just chose to call it romance because it involved only the lovers; their first time alone).

Hayden, I felt, was too abrupt in his mood swing towards Obi Wan or at least too loud. I would've made him sound more like he's wimpering than angry right away; especially since he starts off talking about Jedi virtues he believes in.

[Eruviel Greenleaf]

In that scene I was wondering why he was whining like that to Senator Amidala, and why she was actually listening to him! But of course, that just goes back to wondering what she saw in him! But yeah, he's very loud and angry, though whiney isn't necessarily better. But that kid just annoys me anyway. . .:rolleyes: :)

[mithrand1r]

Overall I liked the movie.

It was much better then ST:TPM. (I guess that is not saying too much.)

The beginning and ending were well paced, IMO.
The romantic "Sound of Music" scenes were a bit slow paced for my liking, but I thought The Queen and Anakin acted the role given well enough.

My biggest complaint about the film is the treatment of Anakin's mother.

Since there is a ten year gap between TPM and AOTC one would think that someone (either the Jedi council or Queen Amadala) out of gratitude for what Anakin did to free Naboo would get his mom out of slavery and reunite mother and son.

Maybe this is ultimately why Anakin turned to the Dark Side. ;)

This just seems to be a cheap ploy to move the trip towards the Dark Side for Anakin.

3CPO's comic lines was a bit much For my tastes and I think the movie would have went fine without it.

The Jedi Philosphy (?) of being against love/attachment seems annoying at best. I do not know. Maybe if the reasoning behind it was better explained in the movie.

Lack of Sufficient "Republic" troops to enforce the Will of the Republic and defend the republic against external/internal threats. I may be a bit harsh here since I am not completely sure about the internal workings of the Republic and how it stayed together for about 1,000 years (this is how long I have heard that the Republic was togerther)

I did not completely like the Boba Fett origin story since it contradicted some of the novels I have read and I liked the books history of Fett better. It does not mean that the book is necessarily incompatable with the movie, but it does raise the question of the rest of Boba Fett's upbringing. (He appeared to be about 8-10 in the movie).

I liked:
the Yoda sword play.
The Kenobi character. Too bad didn't get more lines.
Count Dooku.
Jango fett scenes.
The manipulation of events/people by Palpatine.
Jar jar gets to have a role in the downfall of the Republic. Kind of fitting in a way. ;)
The scenes of the Naboo retreat. (I saw a special on Northern Italy a week before seeing ST:AOTC so it was nice to see and recognize Lake Como in the Film) :)
The Musical score and special effects

These are just some of my impressions of the film. Again overall I liked it, but there were certain areas that I found vexing.

As a side note One comment about Star Wars that I found funny.

In SW:TPM it is stated that Anakin is too old for training, but ST: original trilogy it is ok to train Luke when he is about 18-20yrs old

Sincerely,
Anthony
:p

[mrcool]

good it was...bad it wasn't...

[elendili]

I thought that the start was a bit slow but ince it got going it was a good film I especially liked the arena scene with all the jedi in it.

The romantic scenes were tiresome but i guess they were necessary 4 the whole luke and leia kids to exist.

I couldn't stop laughing when Joda was fighting Dooku it was so funny the way he walked in hobbling and ended up doing somersaults in the air with a lightsaber.

Obi-wan was funny especially his little one liners all together I thought it ws much better than the phantom menace although it would have been better with more sith jedi fights.

[Rei]

I don't know if I liked it....

The whole forbidden romance just killed the movie, especially since Natalie Portman and Hayden Christiansen (?) had absolitely no chemestry. And when they're getting taken into the big fight scene and she's like "I die a little more each day.." talk about a mood killer, a battle field is no place for romance.

A lot of the dialouge was very cheesy, and when C-3PO's head was getting dragged around and he had the line "this is a drag" it became down right horrible.

But Yoda's fight scene rocked and it was a whole lot better than the Phantom Menace. (That little kid that played Anakin bothered me) I really think that Obi-Wan should have been given more lines, he's probably the best actor after Christopher Lee, that the movie had in it.

It looks like my Favorite Star Wars episode is still The Empire Strikes back!

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Rei
...especially since Natalie Portman and Hayden Christiansen (?) had absolitely no chemestry.

Ah nuts. :( I have to agree with that.

*adds to list of grievances*

PS Dex's Diner Sux! :p

[Eruviel Greenleaf]

Originally posted by BeardofPants

PS Dex's Diner Sux! :p

To that I must agree. Neh.

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by Eruviel Greenleaf


To that I must agree. Neh.

Somebody agrees with me! Oh the shock.... the shock... (Take that Olson;))

[olsonm]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
(Take that Olson;)) Take what? Just because Dex's majesty is beyond your grasp, doesn't mean I look down on your opinion. :) :p ;)

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by olsonm
Take what? Just because Dex's majesty is beyond your grasp, doesn't mean I look down on your opinion. :) :p ;)

Dex's majesty? Are we talking about the same bloated hands down pants butt crack showing alien? :D

[Eruviel Greenleaf]

Originally posted by BeardofPants


Dex's majesty? Are we talking about the same bloated hands down pants butt crack showing alien? :D

Maybe he saw a different movie, eh? :D

[BeardofPants]

Nah. He's just delusional... Must be all those multiple personalities, eh? *evil look*

[Eruviel Greenleaf]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Nah. He's just delusional... Must be all those multiple personalities, eh? *evil look*

True, but I have multiple personalities and I'm not delusional...least I don't think I am :D

[olsonm]

Trollsonm doesn't speak for me!!! He's always using my good name to make me look stupid!:mad: I have to admit though, Dex does rule!:D :p

[Arathorn]

Once again, BoP, you're penchant for looking at cracks surfaces :p

[olsonm]

Originally posted by olsonm
Trollsonm doesn't speak for me!!! He's always using my good name to make me look stupid!:mad: I have to admit though, Dex does rule!:D :p Um, you're the one using MY name flamer! I do agree with you about Dex. Or to be more precise the Diner scene. It was quite good and they're inability to see this speaks volumes about their mental health. :p

[BeardofPants]

(Olson:

PS - in case you didn't get my mail, you need to empty your inbox, I can't send any more messages.)

Trollsonm doesn't speak for me!!! He's always using my good name to make me look stupid! I have to admit though, Dex does rule!

Whatever you say, buddy... :D

Once again, BoP, you're penchant for looking at cracks surfaces

Which reminds me: I still have you sans pants and boxers sonny!

[olsonm]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
(Olson:

PS - in case you didn't get my mail, you need to empty your inbox, I can't send any more messages.)Done. And stop calling me Olson! No one must know my secret name!:mad:

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by olsonm
And stop calling me Olson! No one must know my secret name!:mad:

ONLY if you admit that Dex's Diner scene is extraneous, OLSON. :p

[olsonm]

I cannot admit to something that isn't true. Your facsistic desire to cow everyone to your opinion is, quite frankly, disturbing.:p ;)

[BeardofPants]

Your facsistic desire to cow everyone to your opinion is, quite frankly, disturbing.

It's SHEEP! :mad:

And if I plan to take over the world, I'll need some practise. :rolleyes:

I cannot admit to something that isn't true.

It *is* true. Search your heart, you know it to be true. :rolleyes: They could have set it up w/out actually having to show the shot of Obi Wan going to the Diner. They could have incorporated it into the Yoda scene ("lost a planet, he has").

[olsonm]

Let it go. You have failed to convince me. Why you cannot accept someone with a differing opinion is is beyond me. You'll be in my prayers. :p ;)

[BeardofPants]

Originally posted by olsonm
Let it go. You have failed to convince me. Why you cannot accept someone with a differing opinion is is beyond me. You'll be in my prayers. :p ;)

You pray for me, and I'll mention your name to my pet, Cthulhu here. :rolleyes:

Fine. Letting it go. Boring fart. :mad: ;)

[olsonm]

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Fine. Letting it go. Boring fart. :mad: ;) The graciousness of your replie has brought a tear to my eye, you silly git you. ;)

[BeardofPants]

At least I can spell.... :p

And I meant boring OLD fart! :D

Pax? :p

[olsonm]

I shall now proclaim the Dex Pax! Let no one breach this peace, at the risk of being bombarded by spam from us silly gits. I have spoken.

[Arathorn]

Originally posted by BeardofPants

Which reminds me: I still have you sans pants and boxers sonny!

Behold my new box of self-replicating boxers, wooly-goat. :p

[azalea]

Ahem. I just wanted to respond to Rei's comment about being "too old" for training. For one thing, the "He's too old" directed at Annikin (albeit true in terms of the "rules") was kind of an "inside" joke because it's the exact same thing he (Yoda) says to Obi-Wan when he asks for Luke to receive training. But it was moot with Luke because Obi-Wan knew that Luke was the last hope (at THAT point) for the overthrow of the Empire/ return of the Jedi. That's the reason he had to be trained.
But then, why didn't Obi-Wan train him sooner, since he lived right around the corner all those years? That's the real question!;)

[Rei]

QUOTE]Ahem. I just wanted to respond to Rei's comment about being "too old" for training. For one thing, the "He's too old" directed at Annikin (albeit true in terms of the "rules") was kind of an "inside" joke because it's the exact same thing he (Yoda) says to Obi-Wan when he asks for Luke to receive training. But it was moot with Luke because Obi-Wan knew that Luke was the last hope (at THAT point) for the overthrow of the Empire/ return of the Jedi. That's the reason he had to be trained. [/QUOTE]

I think you have me confused for someone else Azalea, :D , I never said anything about anyone being to old for training! See, this is what I said...

I don't know if I liked it....
The whole forbidden romance just killed the movie, especially since Natalie Portman and hayden Christenses (?) had absolutely no chemistry. And when thay're getting taken into the big fight scene and she's like "I die a little more each day..." talk about a mood killer, a battle field is no place for romance.A lot of the dialouge was very cheesy, and when C-3PO's head was getting dragged around and he had the line "this is a drag" it became down right horrible.

But Yoda's fight scene rocked and it was a whole lot better than the Phantom Menace. (That little kid that played Anakin bothered me) I really think that Obi-Wan should have been given more lines, he's probably the best actor after Christopher Lee, that the movie had in it.

It looks like my Favorite Star Wars episode is still The Empire Strikes back!



But now that you point it out it is kinda odd. :D

[azalea]

OOOPS! I'm sorry, it was mithrand1r! Your post was a couple of posts down, I guess I should have gone back and looked rather than rely on memory of previous page! Deepest apologies *bows*. I agree with your post!

[elendili]

That little kid that played Anakin bothered me

He was seriously irritating and really wooden, I really liked the fight scenes but there way too many romantic scenes in it its almost like they had gaps to fill so put another scene in it

My fav film is still the Return of the Jedi

[Eäráng]

First of all, those who liked it, I'm very grateful. Second of all, I respect your opinions on this film; I will now harp on this mediocre film.

Plot: What plot?!? Lucas goes out of his way to develop Anakin in this, but does nothing in the way of a plot. My head was spinning from all the shifts in the story. First you have Padme and Anakin, then you have Kamino, then you have Jango Fett and Clone Troopers, then... It gets very annoying after a while. You have five or six subplots going on at the same time, and it's okay for a book, but when you're doing it in a movie, it can make the photo-sensitive sick.

Character Development: Okay, this was pretty good, but Episode III is going to have to work overtime on character development because of the many goof-ups of Lucas. The only CD we had was with Anakin and Padme, and that was only their mutual relationship, which turns into their marriage. No one else. It would have been better for some of the characters, such as Jango Fett and MACE WINDU, but I could kinda see where Lucas wanted to take this.

Script: I absolutely abhorred the script. Jar Jar is back?!? With all his "meesas" and "yousas"?!? This was enough to make me vomit. The part of the love story was revolting, as Hayden Christiansen could not act. He looked mad when he did his lines; with the eyebrows and everything!!! The script could not have gone anywhere but up.

Acting: As I have said before, they could have gotten some better actors. Hayden Christiansen could not act. He looked like he was mad everytime he did his lines. Do you see Marlon Brando doing that in the whole movie? I don't think so. Natalie Portman could have been taken out of this movie, I believe, and so could Ewan. The only redeeming part of the acting was where Frank Oz was concerned (with Yoda, bad syntax and all), and he only played a CGI character.

Music: Probably one of this movie's redeeming factors. John Williams does good with the music, especially the reprise of "The Duel of the Fates" when Anakin is going to save his mother. That made a tie to TPM in so many ways. John Williams was the man to have for the soundtrack. I especially loved the music at the end, where it was chaotic and the music fit in so well with it.

Overall: I would have to say that this is a movie that I would only get the DVD for the extras, and not the movie. The movie was good as a single, but isn't good enough to be considered part of the Star Wars Universe, IMHO.

[Llark silverwolf]

id say third best starwars i liked it alot some very cool fights in there i think return of the jedi was best then emperer strikes back