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Dwarven Sen
04-10-2002, 08:26 AM
So what do we think happened to the brothers of elwing?
It's a simple enough question. When Doriath was finally taken over and elves killed elves AGAIN the sons of feanor killed dior and nimloth and Elured and Elurin were thrown to the forest. But surely elves can survive in a forest, especially ones from the line of beren who was friend to living things.
Sister Golden Hair
04-10-2002, 12:11 PM
The Sil indicates that they were very small children at the time, so they probably were not able to fin for themselves and died of starvation. IMO.
galadriel
04-16-2002, 07:22 PM
I would like to believe that they somehow made it. But realistically, I'm inclined to agree that they died; they were just little kids. :(
Tar-Elendil
05-07-2002, 09:46 PM
i believe in the book of lost tales 2 it says that they were slew by the Sons of Fëanor
Finrod Felagund
05-08-2002, 08:24 AM
No, not slain but left to die in the woods and they disappeared.
afro-elf
05-08-2002, 12:03 PM
maybe they were eaten by rabid hobbits
Ñólendil
05-08-2002, 05:05 PM
Afro-elf, you dog, I was going to do an eaten-by-something joke!
afro-elf
05-08-2002, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by Ñólendil
Afro-elf, you dog, I was going to do an eaten-by-something joke!
hey i'm an AFRO-elf
that should be DAWG hommie
Tar-Elendil
05-08-2002, 07:59 PM
No, not slain but left to die in the woods and they disappeared.
i dont recall that, though i havent reead it in awhile..could you tell me on which page it says that?...
Tar-Elendil
05-08-2002, 08:05 PM
in the book of lost tales 2 elwing has only one brother, whose name was Auredhir
Tar-Elendil
05-08-2002, 08:09 PM
book of lost tales two page 242 "The Nauglafring".
"..they fell unawares on Dior, and Dior and Auredhir were slain.."
they being the sons of fëanor
DraztiK
08-31-2002, 08:16 AM
Maybe Elwing's brothers survived in the woods, but stayed small due to not taking their vitamins, and thus the Hobbits came into existing.
(hm, nice idea for a fanfic, eh?)
UnStashable
08-31-2002, 01:30 PM
Also have to remember that the woods that two infants were put into could very well have been swarming with orcs, trolls, Wargs, and other such charismatic creatures of Melkor.
Radagast The Brown
08-31-2002, 02:46 PM
originally posted by Tar Elendil
"..they fell unawares on Dior, and Dior and Auredhir were slain.."If you are right, he (the one brother) died in the war, what means all your theories are wrong.
Bertuthiel
08-31-2002, 02:57 PM
I have always stuck to what's in the Sil, that they were left on their own in the forest. Interestingly enough, when push came to shove, the Sons of Feanor repented and went looking for the two lost tots, aged approx. 2-4 years old. [Walking but incapable of caring for themselves.] They were not found, nor any trace of them. it as assumed that some animals had carried them off to a lair, leaving no trace in the open.
How sad...if they had only thought about the consequences of their action before they left them, the kiddies might have lived.
it was a great source of woe afterwards. And it marked the brothers ever after as child killers.
galadriel
09-01-2002, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by DraztiK
Maybe Elwing's brothers survived in the woods, but stayed small due to not taking their vitamins, and thus the Hobbits came into existing.Hehe... what a story to tell kids to make them eat their vegetables. Except, with the recent movie mania, a little kid would *want* to be a hobbit. :)
Willow Oran
09-01-2002, 10:03 PM
What is likely is that they died. What is nicer to think is that maybe there was some friendly maia, (such as Olorin) wandering around in disguise as the books say that some of them did and found the two little elflings and took them back to Valinor with him/her. Highly unlikely but you can always hope that that's what happened.
Well, I seem to recall that, in effect, they were never heard from again. They may as well be dead, as far as the history of Middle Earth is concerned...
Beleg Strongbow
09-20-2002, 01:30 PM
unless the hobbits descended from them...
Lefty Scaevola
09-21-2002, 11:11 PM
Elve are just barely subject to death by privation or exposure, so if they persished in the woods, it would most likely be to some casualty, a beast, a mauradur, being tracked down an murdered by one of the Feanorians after a PR showing of them being shooed off alive.
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