View Full Version : It's funny because it's true. (media bashing)
IronParrot
07-09-2001, 09:44 PM
greenbooks.theonering.net...70101.html (http://greenbooks.theonering.net/turgon/files/070101.html)
Darth Tater
07-10-2001, 04:08 PM
That's one of the best bits of online writing I've seen in a while
ladyisme
07-10-2001, 05:38 PM
It was one of the funniest things I have read in a while and so true. In short, I loved it.
"The road goes ever on and on down from the door where it began."
SauronDL
07-13-2001, 09:16 AM
:lol: It was great! I agree with both of you.
...I've always said tolk-in... :( ?
anduin
07-13-2001, 02:30 PM
Me too.....but I tell myself it is because I am from the south (well sorta) and not because I don't know any better. ;)
Shanamir Duntak
07-13-2001, 05:40 PM
I'm worst.. I've always said Toll-ki-en
I guess that's cause english ain't my native lang. :)
Darth Tater
07-13-2001, 11:52 PM
shame on you all! shame on you all~
ok, i just to say tolk in and smog and soron and sore omon but i'm better now!
webwizard333
07-16-2001, 05:06 PM
Maybe I'll do that to some of my friends just before they see the movies. :lol:
Manwe Sulimo
07-27-2001, 09:40 AM
I have the same pronounciation as Shanamir, I think... Tolk-i-en... just straight forward, really... I know it is supposed to be tol-keen, but I never think of it when I say it, so I say Tolk-i-en...
Shanamir Duntak
07-27-2001, 02:19 PM
I guess that's cause I usually speaks french.
Manwe Sulimo
07-30-2001, 12:39 PM
I don't know a word of french myself... I usually speak norwegian...
Shanamir Duntak
07-30-2001, 06:10 PM
What does norwegian sounds like? Is it a German language or a latin one?
i.e., does it sound more like french or english?
Darth Tater
07-30-2001, 07:22 PM
Tolkien was actually inspired by Norwegian in the designing of his languages
Shanamir Duntak
07-30-2001, 08:41 PM
Not only. If my memory isn't doing tricks on me, it's what mostly inspired him for Rohirrims
Manwe Sulimo
07-31-2001, 07:45 AM
Tolkien was inspired by the nordic languages, IIRC... The rohirrim speak sort of old english... it was especially the old norwegian and other nordic languages(from the time of the Vikings, I think) that inspired him... No quite sure, though...
I think it is a german language... if you want a sample, here goes...
Slik er norsk. Det er ett ganske greitt språk egentlig, men litt kjipt når man må lære så mange andre på skolen(engelsk og ett til, tysk eller fransk er de vanligste. Jeg valgte tysk)
And that said something like:
This is how norwegian is. It is an okay language, really, but it kinda sucks when you have to learn so many other languages at school(english and one more, german or french are the most usual. I chose german)
Shanamir Duntak
07-31-2001, 11:51 AM
I think that the language you think of is something like "Whelsh" (sp?)
Manwe Sulimo
07-31-2001, 07:46 PM
I think i recall reading somewhere that the Rohirrim speak old-english, like before the year 1000 or something, the original Anglo-Saxon language, not all that much inflicted by the French invasion in 1066... many new words, spellings etc... that had many similarities to old norwegian, since the Vikings had rather much influence in Britain before that(I could launch into describing how Harald Godwinsson tried to take over the throne of England a few months before William the Conqueror and his normans took it in the Battle of Hastings of 1066, but I will refrain)
Anyways, IIRC, welsh has much in common with that original english language...
hairymonkeyboy
08-01-2001, 07:30 AM
actually, I think welsh might be a slightly older language than even the old english Tolkien used. It is very similar to Breton (sp?) - which is still occasionally spoken in part of NW France. These two areas were linked (politically) back in the Dark Ages before the Saxons and Vikings overran the place. However, I'm no expert on the subject... just something I read somewhere. 8o
Manwe Sulimo
08-01-2001, 09:29 AM
I am no expert either, It's just that my english teacher bugged us with all kinda ****, the Battle of Hastings and the prehistory was among the more interesting things... And I remember reading something a long time ago...
You're probably right about welsh being older, and more closer related to that other one(Breton?) that I've never even heard about...
Erewe
08-07-2001, 12:23 AM
At first I pronounced it Tolk-i-en, then Tolk-in, and now I pronounce it Tolk-een. It really bugs my friends, who all pronounce it Tolk-in. :)
--Erewë
Erewe
08-14-2001, 11:35 PM
Look! Look! Funny!
http://www.theonering.net/movie/scrapbook/large/1677
The Dark Lord Saruman. :D Funny!
Here's the first page in case anyone's interested:
http://www.theonering.net/movie/scrapbook/large/1676
I don't know if I should be sad for the terrible representation or ROTFL because of their stupidity.
--Erewë
Ñólendil
08-15-2001, 03:47 PM
For his Elvish languages Tolkien I think often based the structure on languages we know of. Quenya's structure is based off Latin and Finnish, Sindarin is based off Welsh (but not Gaelic). Some detect an Italian sound in Telerin.
Since in Tolkien's persona as historian he has translated all the Westron stuff in the Thain's Copy of the Red Book into English, all languages related to Westron have been represented by languages related to English. Thus the Rohirrim's names are in Old English, and Northmen like the Bardings have Old Norse names (as do the Dwarves). The tales talking about the ancient ancestors of the Rohirrim use Gothic for their names.
Tessar
09-20-2001, 02:17 PM
roflmho
Sakata
09-20-2001, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by Shanamir Duntak
I think that the language you think of is something like "Whelsh" (sp?)
Welsh :)
IronParrot
09-21-2001, 12:56 AM
Dark Lord Saruman... LOL! :D :D :D
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