Past the test!??????????????

[aldesign]

Ive read the books,
and the numerous number of times ive seen the movie,
I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND WHY......


.....Galadriel says "Ive past the test!"
after she goes mental infront of Frodo and Sam, next to her Bird'bath'o'galadriel.

Please can ua'll argue, and explain to me.

Cheers! :)

[Twilight]

She has two choices. If she takes the ring, she will become an evil sorceress. If she doesn't take the ring, then it will be destroyed, and Galadrial's powers will faid. By not taking it, she knows that the power of the three will fade, and she will no longer be able to keep Lorien the way it is. The temptation to take the ring and try to use it was great, but she resisted.

[KGamgee]

Yep.
Its sort of sad for Galadriel, because she looses both ways. But she knows what is right and she "passes the test"- resisting the Ring. She knows thats what she had to do-the ultimate test. And she passed.
~KGamgee~
PS: She only went mental because she was tempted with pure evil....thats pretty rough, she don't blame her to much.

[ragamuffin92]

Somewhere in "Unfinished Tales," it's written that Tolkien pondered the idea that the Valar banned Galadriel from returning to the Undying Realm at the end of her Middle-earth stay, because she left Valinor in rebellion when Feanor left. One version had her a more-or-less active rebel, another version had her be a passive one. She was proud and refused to return when forgiveness was offered by the Valar. I guess that the long years changed her, and she became a humble servant of the Valar (I don't know how else to say it--she mended her ways).

When Frodo offered to give her the One Ring, she refused it, thereby demonstrating that she had no more personal ambition or lust for power, and was no longer in rebellion against Eru and the Valar; she "passed the test," and so, the ban was lifted.

[aldesign]

thanks guys its a little clearer, but there is still no solid meaning

this is the closest, and i shall take it : "passes the test"- resisting the Ring




ragamuffin92 cheers for all that info, but i havent read much of that yet, cos im half-way-through-RotK

[Bacchus]

Look back about half a page earlier, when Frodo offers Galadriel the Ring. Her reply: "Gently are you revenged upon me for my testing of you at our first meeting!"

She tested Frodo and the others upon their arrival, and now he is returning the favor by offerring the Ring freely. She had already decided not to try to take it from him, but unexpectedly he offers to give it to her. This is the test, of her willpower.

[aldesign]

cheers Entling Buddy dude

[Sirithdal]

Originally posted by aldesign

.....Galadriel says "Ive past the test!"
after she goes mental infront of Frodo and Sam, next to her Bird'bath'o'galadriel.

Please can ua'll argue, and explain to me.

Cheers! :) [/B]


Hey, no prob, man, at least on the surface of it. The "test" could have been that of temptation for greater power which the One Ring would certainly have given her. . . for a while, anyway, before the Ring took control of her. She says (in the movie, I'm not sure about the book and I lent my copy out) that she had long desired it, but when it came right down to it, she refused to take it when it was offered to her.

Her "mental" display, as you put it, could be her way of considering Frodo's offer by acting out her decision-making process. After experiencing her "rush" of power, she found the whole thing distasteful and bent and not for her after all. There's also the sense that she is performing -- in a quite sarcastic vein -- for Frodo's benefit and education, since he is the one who has been (correctly) chosen to bear the burden and undertake the dangerous mission.

I rather liked the sequence, myself, as it revealed another side of the Elf Queen's personality and innate power. The Lady has dimension, dig? :(

[Laurelyn]

Originally posted by aldesign
Ive read the books,
and the numerous number of times ive seen the movie,
I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND WHY......


.....Galadriel says "Ive past the test!"
after she goes mental infront of Frodo and Sam, next to her Bird'bath'o'galadriel.

Please can ua'll argue, and explain to me.

Cheers! :)

yeah, I agree w/ everybody else on this issue . . . But Aldesign? "Bird'bath'o'galadriel?" I laughed SO hard at that . . .

[aldesign]

next to her Bird'bath'o'galadriel.

im glad u thought that was funny, because in a sly way its actualy an advert for a new website

based on an incredabley funny story, taken straight from this messageboard, which was agreed by the authors that it should be made into an online kinda comic / story

anyway, the chapter list is up at www.fotmb.bravepages.com for u to have a laught at, (fellowship of the message board)
but the real content should be up within the next 24hours for all to read enjpy and laugh at!!!

[Wood]

My interpretation of it was that she could have taken the ring and she passed the test buy not takking it.
Did enyone think that seen was too donup??????

[coolismo]

One of the big themes throughout is 'the tester are themselves tested.' Those who test the hero are themselves tested by the hero. This is JRR's most brilliant take on the mythic hero/quest. So G tests Frodo and the whole fellowship and she herself is tested in return by F so that F can show not only that he can pass his test but immediately rise above it and in turn test the tester. Look at the shock of G when she realises that she has been flipped by a halfling who learns fast. This allows G to be redeemed and take the necessary put painful decision to go to the west, she resolves the dilemma of he people and her own personal evolution on middle earth. It's a great theme, and I don't think any writer has used that twist...the tester will be tested....as brilliantly.

Notice also that Saruman shows what happens when the tempter is himself tempted. It is a doom.