Gandalf Leaving?

[The_Real_Legolas]

Why did Gandalf leave??? Where did he go????????????? why did Tolkien make him go???If he stayed it would have been better.:o

[Comic Book Guy]

I'm not sure if you are refering to Gandalfs departure from the Grey Heavens or from the entrance of Mirkwood, though seeing as this is the Hobbit forum I suppose the latter is most probable.

He left because he had to meet with the White Council which was being held south of Mirkwood, they had to discuss the Necromancers (Sauron) position in Dol Guldor. Eventually it came to be that the White Council drove Sauron out of Mirkwood.

[The_Real_Legolas]

[Inoldonil: Just a few question marks or one will do. So many really screws up the topic. It's best just to explain how you don't understand]

[Legolas_BowKing]

The_Real_Legloas is there any chance you are just saying all these silly and obvious questions to get your posts up?

[The_Real_Legolas]

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[Wayfarer]

Well... gandalf does explain it himself to bilbo. ;)

[BurningHammer]

did the necromancer have a physical form or was he or it just uhh dark power?

[Comic Book Guy]

By the time of the Hobbit, I don't think he had the power or the will to regain physical form, so a "Shadow" figure would be most probable. By the time of the War of the Ring though, he had a Physical humaniod form. His appearance has been covered recently in a thread in the Lord of the Rings forum.

[Twilight]

I think he had a spirit form without any kind of physical body. It seemed like he was bound to wherever he was. His spirit didn't do any roaming around. I think he was confined to Dol Guldor, or Barad-Dur later on when he had to move. I guess he didn't really have an insentive to be moving around, so there problably isn't much proof for that one way or another.

[Andy5190]

I heard from my friend that tyhe Hobit was boring.:confused: Is it??? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Twilight]

It is a quick read. You should try it for yourself. I rather enjoyed it. It is a differant style of writting than the other books, but it is every bit as good in my opinion.

[Khadrane]

The Hobbit is NOT boring! It rocks! It's different, but it is still Tolkien's book, so it is numbered amoung my favorites.

[Radagast The Brown]

I agree with Khadrane. the Hobbit is one of the best books I have ever read (and I read 10 books...)

[Nibs]

The Silmarillion, Lord of the Rings, and the Hobbit are all very different, but each contain endearing attributes. By far the most simple of the lot, it is, nonetheless, a very good read.

[Wayfarer]

Yes. The hobbit is more lighthearted and just plain fun, the Silmarillion is deep and sad and heart wrenching, while the LOTR is more adventurous and thrilling.

[Wayfarer]

Did you know that tolkien also began to write a suspense? Definitely one of the most talented writers of all time.

[markedel]

Which he said sucked badly and never wrote.

[Entlover]

Radagast . . .you've read 10 books?
I love you guys. I have cats who are older than any of you. And yet you can pull up special effects on the computer that it would take me days to figure out. So cool.
I haven't read the Silmarillion yet; I'm kind of afraid it's depressing. But have read the LOTR about 6 times.
I've read maybe 5 thousand books but LOTR is still my favorite.

[Dwarven Sen]

My Dad used to read the hobbit to me at bedtime since i was two but even then hobbits annoyed me i like the dwarves my favourite is balin i cried at the end of the LotR and towards the end of the hobbit. I prefered Orcrist to Glamdring but it went and got itself burried

[bropous]

When Gandalf left the Dwarves and Bilbo (Third Age Year 2941), he went to attend the White Council to the south of Mirkwood, as has been previously stated. The White Council was called to deal with the question of whether the "Necromancer", who had taken up residence in the tower of Dol Guldur in the southern part of Mirkwood, was actually Sauron the Great Enemy.

Ninety years prior (T.A. 2850), Gandalf had indeed found that Sauron was the Necromancer, when he went into the dungeons of Dol Guldur himself and found the withering form of Thrain, from whom he received the secret key to the side door of Erebor. At the White Council which was held the following year (T.A. 2851), Gandalf argued for an attack on Dol Guldur, but he was overruled by Saruman the White.

At the White Council of TA 2941, while Bilbo was skewering spiders with his Elven pigsticker, Saruman agreed finally to the attack on Dol Guldur, and Sauron, not being ready to face the Free Peoples, departed Dol Guldur and returned to Mordor the following year. Ten years later (TA 2951), Sauron declared himself openly in Mordor and began the rebuilding of Barad-Dur.

Hope that clears things up a bit. SOURCE: "The Return of the King", Appendix B, "The Tale of Years".

[Radagast The Brown]

yeah bropous, you cleared things up even to someone that didn't read LOTR.;)